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Republican convention, night four: Some guy to speak, denying us a double dip of Palinmania; Update: Or will he?

posted at 7:32 pm on September 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The line-up’s noticeably weaker than last night’s, consisting mainly of the host governor plus McCain’s inner circle/cronies: Mel Martinez and Pawlenty in the eight o’clock hour, Grahamnesty and Ridge at nine, then Maverick at 10. Totally disinterested after last night’s blowout? Don’t be. Remember, something like 70 percent of the public says the VP choice is irrelevant. If there are votes to be swung, tonight’s speech may well do more to swing them than Palin’s did.

If you missed Ed’s post about the contrast with Obama’s speech that they’re trying to draw through the staging, here it is. “There will be no negativity,” says Mark Salter, apparently not taking Limbaugh’s advice to have McCain come out and say, “I’m looking forward to working with Democrats in November — those that are left, anyway.” (Follow the link for video of that during his appearance on Neil Cavuto today.) Instead, they’re going to emphasize … change. Exit quotation from Spengler’s cynical optimism about McCain’s chances:

Obama will spend the rest of his life wondering why he rejected the obvious road to victory, that is, choosing Hillary Clinton as his vice presidential nominee. However reluctantly, Clinton would have had to accept. McCain’s choice of vice presidential candidate made obvious after the fact what the party professionals felt in their fingertips at the stadium extravaganza yesterday: rejecting Clinton in favor of the colorless, unpopular, tangle-tongued Washington perennial Joe Biden was a statement of weakness. McCain’s selection was a statement of strength. America’s voters will forgive many things in a politician, including sexual misconduct, but they will not forgive weakness.

That is why McCain will win in November, and by a landslide, barring some unforeseen event. Obama is the most talented and persuasive politician of his generation, the intellectual superior of all his competitors, but a fatally insecure personality. American voters are not intellectual, but they are shrewd, like animals. They can smell insecurity, and the convention stank of it. Obama’s prospective defeat is entirely of its own making.

Update (Ed): We may indeed get a second dose of Palinmania, although indirectly. Word is that the GOP will play the bio video that got scratched last night when Rudy Giuliani’s speech ran too long.


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Heart is a rock band formed in Bellevue, Washington (a suburb of Seattle) and Vancouver, British Columbia.

Wiki

CanadianGuy on September 4, 2008 at 11:18 PM

And for best Canadian import : Shatner, you artless Philistines.

sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:16 PM

Him and Mark Steyn.

baldilocks on September 4, 2008 at 11:18 PM

I hope they play “Brick House” next.

sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:18 PM

Anyone want a nice steaming bowl of Moose stew?

HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:18 PM

rivlax on September 4, 2008 at 11:13 PM

Curse you! Every time I hear the name Gordon Lightfoot it takes DAYS to get Edmund Fitzgerald out of my head!

innominatus on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM

OMG, you HAVE to get that clip of Andrea Mitchell talking just now. She was swarmed by balloons, and she kept swatting them away and they kept coming back.

I haven’t laughed so hard in my life.

Enoxo on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM

Obama made a big mistake not having balloons.

Do you remember???

After Jimmy Carter’s acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention at Madison Square Garden, a flood of balloons was supposed to drop. However, the overhead machine experienced difficulty and the balloons could not drop, after a significant wait they began to drop, but then at a very slow pace. This was considered a bad omen on the fall campaign. Similar malfunctions occurred during the 1996 Republican National Convention following nominee Bob Dole’s speech and the 2004 Democratic Convention following nominee John Kerry’s speech. In 2004, TV microphones picked up the voice of a man who (perhaps remembering 1980) uttered several profanities regarding his displeasure at the malfunction.

INC on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM

record is 9 (then I lost count) beats jagerbombs

tehd on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM

Back bacon

RBMN on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM

I’m outraged. What, no ABBA?

Maybe they are saving “The Winner Takes It All” for the inauguration.

Terrie on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM

Heart is like Obama

But less girly.

Jim Treacher on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM

Laura Ingraham played Barracuda on the show this morning and it probably spawned the idea. They need to make it the campaign theme song.

Valiant on September 4, 2008 at 11:11 PM
———–
Yeah, when the McCain people were organizing things it never dawned on them that there was a song named Barracuda and they saw it on TV this morning and got the idea from that. Duh.

And perhaps you should check out the lyrics to Barracuda before you suggest they make it theme song. Duh

Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM

Think they’ll play It’s Hard Out Here For A Pimp?

That would be spectacular.

The Ugly American on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM

Actually, they’re from Vancouver, in Ann’s own words. Watch this clip from 1976.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uvr3dmptvg

gxpgxp on September 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM

CNN is being uncommonly fair, right now.

Complimenting Mac, and saying “Maverick” quite a bit, and not in a bad way.

yo on September 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM

OMG, you HAVE to get that clip of Andrea Mitchell talking just now. She was swarmed by balloons, and she kept swatting them away and they kept coming back.

I haven’t laughed so hard in my life.

Enoxo on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM

Comedy gold indeed.

SouthernGent on September 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM

LOL. My fiance has that song–”September”–for his voicemail music.

baldilocks on September 4, 2008 at 11:15 PM

And I just put “Let’s Groove” on my ipod for running.

mikeyboss on September 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM

Eat it, Dave. Tired of your Canadianess!

HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM

Speech grading time! OK.

Palin Skill: 9.5 Throughout.

Palin Artistic Impression: 10.0 (only because can’t go higher)

McCain Skill: 7.5 until a 10.0 dismount.

McCain Artistic Impression: same as above.

Loxodonta on September 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM

Him and Mark Steyn.

baldilocks on September 4, 2008 at 11:18 PM

Can’t argue with that. I stand corrected.

sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM

Jim Treacher on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM

True, but they both have that whole Magic Man thing.

carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM

I hope they play “Brick House” next.

sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:18 PM

I will turn that ish off.

Think they’ll play It’s Hard Out Here For A Pimp?

That would be spectacular.

The Ugly American on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM

Ha!

baldilocks on September 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Anyone want a nice steaming bowl of Moose stew?

HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:18 PM

How many days until it shows up as a blue plate special ya think?

allrsn on September 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM

From Wiki: Heart is a rock band formed in Bellevue, Washington (a suburb of Seattle) and Vancouver, British Columbia.
Gee Dave, if they can do it why can’t we?

carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 11:15 PM
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Keep reading, Captain Internet. Nancy and Ann Wilson are both American.

Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Hee hee…..John Fogerty’s probably sh*ttin’ bricks right.

How DARE they play his song!

The Ugly American on September 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Eat it, Dave. Tired of your Canadianess!

HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM

LOL

carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Soon, allrsn.

HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Dave, shut up.

Hendo on September 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Wow, Sarah’cuda and First Dude were surrounded by SS.

carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM

Laura is in the radio. The lyrics are ambiguous enough to use as a campaign theme,

Valiant on September 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Curse you! Every time I hear the name Gordon Lightfoot it takes DAYS to get Edmund Fitzgerald out of my head!

innominatus on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM

In a musty old hall in De-trow-it they prayed, at the Maritime Sailors’ Cathedral…

mikeyboss on September 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Palin: 9.9 (required technical deduction for not slamming Pelosi…eventhough I know why she didn’t).

McCain: Speech: 9, Delivery: 6… 7.5

SouthernGent on September 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM

I love the fact this speech was about what he brings to america in contrast to Obama speech with his liberal laundry list. Sorry but Mr. Obama the class and actual real roads to accomplish change and hope go to John McCain.

Gracelynn on September 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Will the media jump off the sinking Obama Ship Lollipop sooner or later?

econavenger on September 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Obama: -1

Jim Treacher on September 4, 2008 at 11:18 PM

Hey, if we can rate in the negatives, how about imaginary numbers, instead?

Obama: i

Y-not on September 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM

McCain just lost all the bounce from Sarah’s speech. Sorry guy’s but he just isn’t a good speaker. He doesn’t inspire or do anything. He did pretty bad. Especially after a glimmer of hope from Saddleback.

flash044 on September 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM

If they play some GWAR, would that win or lose votes?

sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM

This just out from the Obama campaign:

McCain’s speech was written by McCain’s speech writers.

Bishop on September 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM

If you had told me a week ago that I’d ever be this optimistic about McCain’s chances in November, I wouldn’t have believed you.

‘Night, kids!

Jim Treacher on September 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM

And I just put “Let’s Groove” on my ipod for running.

mikeyboss on September 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM

I’m a big EWF but “Let’s Groove” is too disco.

baldilocks on September 4, 2008 at 11:23 PM

Twice talking about the green background. Rove just said it was a sorority house. WTF?

BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 11:23 PM

I’m a big EWF fan but “Let’s Groove” is too disco.

baldilocks on September 4, 2008 at 11:23 PM

Heathens wouldn’t settle down.

Valiant on September 4, 2008 at 11:23 PM

Well, between Palin and McCain, I’d say Obama’s bounce is toast. On to the debates. I can’t imagine Obama or Biden are looking forward to those at all.

Ronnie on September 4, 2008 at 11:23 PM

Dave,
When I saw Heart live back in about ‘88 I admit that my eyes never strayed off Ann and Nancy, but they’re not the whole band.

innominatus on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Here it comes from Brokaw: “But the fact is… yada yada yada”

Mr_Magoo on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Thanks James Treacher!

carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Rove was joking.

RBMN on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Ann born in San Diego

Nancy born in San Francisco

They lived in Vancouver for a while at the dawn of the band.

You all fail at classic rock and the internet.

Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Obama is in deep shat in the debates; McCain just trumped him with energy and with recognizing that people need help here and there.

Bishop on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM

innominatus on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Thanks, I am tired of arguing with him.

carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Hey, if we can rate in the negatives, how about imaginary numbers, instead?

Obama: i

Y-not on September 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM

BRILLIANT! Imaginary scores for imaginary policies! I like it!

Pilgrim on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Still cannot believe I’m actually going to vote for McCain. What a world.

Toodles everyone.

The Ugly American on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Well, it wasn’t the greatest speech but it was a display of substance over style.

It was exactly what he needed to do.

Pcoop on September 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM

Sorority house lawns were from an earlier period in McCain’s life.

RBMN on September 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM

This just out from the Obama campaign:

McCain’s speech was written by McCain’s speech writers.

Bishop on September 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM

I’m appalled…

Mr_Magoo on September 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM

You all fail at classic rock and the internet.

Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Better than you failing at life.

theguardianii on September 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM

I really enjoyed the speech. Nice nice heartfelt finale

clnurnberg on September 4, 2008 at 11:26 PM

Who cares, Dave. Already settled. Let IT GO!

HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:26 PM

I’m appalled…
Mr_Magoo on September 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM

You should be, as am I. Because of that I’m voting Obama.

Bishop on September 4, 2008 at 11:26 PM

You all fail at classic rock and the internet.

Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM

While you are the self-proclaimed king of classic rock and the internet, your politics leave a lot to be desired.

carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 11:26 PM

McCain just lost all the bounce from Sarah’s speech. Sorry guy’s but he just isn’t a good speaker. He doesn’t inspire or do anything. He did pretty bad. Especially after a glimmer of hope from Saddleback.

flash044 on September 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Sorry disagree, McCain is actually upholding tradition…

Barry’s laundry list while “tradition” for the Donks has won precisely twice and not with more than 50% either time in the last 20 years….

I like our odds….

McCain rose above the sniping and was following the “indirect approach* http://www.jstor.org/pss/120646

He subtly sniped at Barry’s weakest points he could without being overbearing.

Yes McCain is no speaker, but if the American electorate want cotton candy they really don’t want or NEED him at any rate.

Cotton candy is down the hall and to the left.

sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 11:26 PM

McCain Skill: 7.5 until a 10.0 dismount.

McCain Artistic Impression: same as above.

Loxodonta on September 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM

“10.0 dismount” I like that.

Mr_Magoo on September 4, 2008 at 11:27 PM

What if if they quiz McCain and Obama on classic rock at the debates?

PANIC!!!

Karl on September 4, 2008 at 11:27 PM

You all fail at classic rock and the internet.

Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Who died and made you Mr. Classic Rock and Internet grader man?

sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:27 PM

McCain will clean the Obama clock at the three debates.
Palin will devour Joe.
We have great odds this year.

carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 11:27 PM

I’m appalled…

Mr_Magoo on September 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM

Barack O’bama to challenge all comers to an extemperaneous battle royal….er um I can’t even finish this mini-meme….

nm

sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 11:27 PM

If we want an orator, we should elect James Earl Jones…but all in all I trust McCain to keepn us safe and not do anything stupid, like every dem I can name

clnurnberg on September 4, 2008 at 11:27 PM

I’m a man, but i cried when he talked about he was changed in Vietnam. WOW…

Chudi on September 4, 2008 at 11:08 PM

Yeah, he got me too.

Kevin71 on September 4, 2008 at 11:28 PM

Ann born in San Diego

Nancy born in San Francisco

They lived in Vancouver for a while at the dawn of the band.

You all fail at classic rock and the internet.

Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM

dude… links? links?

gxpgxp on September 4, 2008 at 11:28 PM

A week is a lifetime in politics. Last Thursday I was wondering where this was all going to go. Then John McCain picked Sarah Palin and the world turned on a dime. Tonight John McCain delivered a powerful speech that hit all the right points. I am more confident than ever that the GOP has found its roots, that the base is totally energized, and that we will win in November.

scrubjay on September 4, 2008 at 11:28 PM

Will any of the brave souls watching MSNBC fill us in on Tingles and Milhouse?

Pasalubong on September 4, 2008 at 11:28 PM

Obama suffered too. He had to throw all his old friends under a bus. It was very hard.

RBMN on September 4, 2008 at 11:28 PM

Wow….local TV reporter there from WRAL…being extremely fair. WRAL is usually very fair.

SouthernGent on September 4, 2008 at 11:28 PM

Howard Wolfson, ugh.

BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 11:28 PM

This just out from the Obama campaign:

McCain’s speech was written by McCain’s speech writers.

Bishop on September 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Is this all that comes out of Mr. Obama mouth?I mean come on he starting to sound like a two year old. Maybe he will have better responce and then change it later. By the way where was his congradulations to John McCain I did not see.

Gracelynn on September 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM

Biden will look good in the VP’s home at the Naval Observatory.

Stuffed and mounted over Palin’s mantle.

sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM

“10.0 dismount” I like that.

Mr_Magoo on September 4, 2008 at 11:27 PM

Definitely stuck the ending a rousing call to American exceptionalism and ingenuity and love

clnurnberg on September 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM

I was surprised at the speech. I had never heard McCain say that he was broken in VietNam. That was the first time I have heard him talk about how the other prisoners saved his life. It was a different perspective.

He did talk a lot about policy, and there was little attempt at oratory, but all in all, not bad. It would have been better if the crowd would not have stepped on his lines every few seconds.

Who was the crazy person that ran down the aisle?

Terrye on September 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM

I think McCain was trying not to be divisive with his delivery. He really wants to be the President of unity. Unlike Barack who just says it.

carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM

When I saw Heart live back in about ‘88 I admit that my eyes never strayed off Ann and Nancy, but they’re not the whole band.

innominatus on September 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM
——–

The rest of the band are American and the only reason tehy came to Vancouver was to avoid the draft and have to go to ‘Nam.

So the McCain campaign using a heart song is deliciously ironic indeed.

Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM

Wolfson is a prick. He’s demonizing McCain for not demonizing Bush on Fox.

Maquis on September 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM

Howard Wolfson, ugh

Chris Wallace just bitch-slapped him on his main point.

Karl on September 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM

PMS-NBC:

Tingles is no where in sight!

HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM

CBSNEWS poll Mon. – Wed. had them all tied up 42-42!

Mon. – Wed. that was before our gal Sarah’s greatest speech evah before 37.2 million viewers.

No wonder CNN is being civil Obamas’ starting to smell like a rotten corpse. As bad as the media wants Obama to win I doubt they will ride a dead horse for long.

dhunter on September 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM

What McCain will do differently (than Bush) is find that veto pen and use it.

RBMN on September 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM

Rywall, let me quote to you from no less a source than Weird Al Yankovic…

Don’t wanna be a Canadian Idiot..

Troll.

grasshopper68 on September 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM

Democrats say: McCain didn’t trash Bush, not even once.

My collie says:

Call a wahbulance.

CyberCipher on September 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM

This just in from Team Obama:

“I was a community

organizer

, dammit!”

sulla on September 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM

JOURNEY! DUDE!

SouthernGent on September 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM

The rest of the band are American and the only reason tehy came to Vancouver was to avoid the draft and have to go to ‘Nam.

So the McCain campaign using a heart song is deliciously ironic indeed.

Dave Rywall on September 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM

He’s earned the right to play whatever damned song he likes.

sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM

Michael Gerson (former Bush speechwriter) talking to Ann Curry on MSNBC basically saying the policy of McCain’s speech failed miserably.

unreal.

LordMaximus on September 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM

I swear to God- Wolfson has worn the same suit for 3 days now…….

FiveWays on September 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM

Wallace just told Wolfson that McCain did go after the GOP in his speech; HW had no comeback.

Karl on September 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM

Nice, Sulla.

HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM

Who was the crazy person that ran down the aisle?

Terrye on September 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM

Ya mean the code pink slimer? McCain handled the assholean element with grace

clnurnberg on September 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM

Will any of the brave souls watching MSNBC fill us in on Tingles and Milhouse?

Pasalubong on September 4, 2008 at 11:28 PM

Not too bad, actually. Even Keith has shown signs of not being a douche.

It’s almost as if they’re listening to the criticism the last few days.

I’m a little freaked out, actually.

yo on September 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM

“Past Maverick” trumps community organizer any day!

HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:32 PM

What McCain will do differently (than Bush) is find that veto pen and use it.

RBMN on September 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM

Roger that. Stating that our government has failed in multiple arenas, both sides of the aisle, is pretty definitive, it just doesn’t further the ZerObama agenda.

Maquis on September 4, 2008 at 11:32 PM

PMS-NBC:

Tingles is no where in sight!

HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM

He must be in Idaho trying to find Sarah Palin’s term papers for his big investigative report on the latest scandal!

Speaking of MIA, does anyone know if the chunky code pink gal they hauled off is alphie?

Y-not on September 4, 2008 at 11:32 PM

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