Rasmussen: Obama leads Palin on experience among unaffiliated voters … by five points; Update: Biden calls Palin “lieutenant governor”

posted at 3:56 pm on September 4, 2008 by Allahpundit

I linked the data earlier in another post but didn’t note this fun factoid.

While Republicans and Democrats predictably favor their party’s candidate by overwhelming margins, the experience gap among voters unaffiliated with either party is even narrower than the national totals. Forty-two percent (42%) say Obama has better experience to be president, but 37% say Palin does.

The potential problem for Democrats is that Obama, the junior U.S. senator from Illinois and a former state legislator, is the party’s standard-bearer, while Palin, an ex-mayor and now governor of Alaska, is number two on her party’s ticket.

That is a potential problem, isn’t it? Obama leads 49/39 when all voters are counted and since unaffiliateds are likely to include more disaffected conservatives than liberals these days it’s probably safe to assume that those numbers are a tiny bit influenced by ideology. But the point I made yesterday and which Goldstein explores at greater length today abides: The more the media craps on her qualifications, the more The One comes in for uncomfortable compare-and-contrast scrutiny of his own, which may actually be her greatest asset to the ticket. To the extent that McCain chose her with an eye to deliberately inciting those comparisons then it was and is a cynical strategy, a sort of kamikaze move in ceding his own number-two slot to someone who’s not ready simply to throw a spotlight on the other side. Why it’s more cynical than nominating a guy for the number-one slot who looks the part, gives a good-ish speech, and otherwise has done jack utterly escapes me, but watch the left go around stamping its feet about the Palin pick and you’ll be half-convinced McCain’s committed an act of treason.

The irony is that by racing past simple investigation and trying to make her lack of experience a subject worthy of out-and-out yokel-ish ridicule, the media’s made it that much easier to reflect the derision onto Barry O. Hey, did you know he asked a question about Afghanistan in a committee meeting once? For realsies. Just ask his running mate.

Update: How harsh is that spotlight McCain’s thrown on him? Harsh enough that he and Biden have to pretend her credentials are actually even less than they are to make Obama look good by comparison. First The One discussed her as though she were still the mayor of Wasilla, now this:

“And the other thing I heard, I heard a very – by the way, I mean this sincerely – a very strong and a very good political speech from a lieutenant governor of Alaska, who I think is going to be very formidable, very formidable.”


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Starting with Rudy last night, continuing to Palin, and throughout today, Obama, Biden, Axelrod, the rest of Obama’s nitwit staff, and the Obama supporters with half a brain (ruling out the Code Pinkers and the like) are collectively enduring the experience of Ralphie during the tire-changing scene in A Christmas Story: “Oh Fuuuuudddddggggeeee.”

BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 4:33 PM

This guy burst onto the national scene four years ago with a speech, dispatched a last-minute-substitute carpetbagger from Maryland in a Senate race, spent just enough time in his new job to hire a staff & find his office before launching his run for the Presidency, and beat the best his party had to offer to win the party nomination. But only 5% of independents think he has more experience than a half-term governor from a remote state who only popped up on everybody’s radar screen six days ago?

This guy’s sh*t is weak.

swiaGunToter on September 4, 2008 at 4:33 PM

“How harsh is that spotlight McCain’s thrown on him? Harsh enough that he and Biden have to pretend her credentials are actually even less than they are to make Obama look good by comparison.”

So harsh the spotlight has bleached out Obama’s and Biden’s campaign briefing papers and they have to wing it.

Obviously it’s the campaign staff’s fault.

BTW, I hear bids on bus tire delivery contracts for the next two months have shot through the roof at the CME.

Dusty on September 4, 2008 at 4:33 PM

very good political speech from a lieutenant governor of Alaska,

At least it’s a step up from Barry who keeps refering to her as the mayor of Wasilly.

MarkTheGreat on September 4, 2008 at 4:34 PM

uh whut

Jim Treacher on September 4, 2008 at 4:27 PM

2004 or 2002, I forget. Torricelli was under indictment for bribery and was running for the Senate. The republicans were winning that race. Dems forced him out and put in Lautenburg instead. Dems wound up winning that race, they would have lost if Torricelli stayed in.

Torricelli was replaced with less than 100 days in the campaign. It was a campaign violation, but of course, in democrat NJ, it was never prosecuted.

lorien1973 on September 4, 2008 at 4:34 PM

It’s becoming crystal-clear: That “O” is really a ZERO!!

…And these polls are less believable than a Ouija board!!!

landlines on September 4, 2008 at 4:34 PM

Update:
Obama and Biden are pathetic. I have never seen such sad examples of and inferiority complex.

Damiano on September 4, 2008 at 4:35 PM

He’s not going to be on O’Reilly live tonight, is he? We couldn’t be that lucky.

Jim Treacher on September 4, 2008 at 4:35 PM

There’s no ad that’s going to reach 37 million people.

Karl on September 4, 2008 at 4:32 PM

The number of registered voters is closer to 100 million. Anyone remember how many people voted in 2004?

A lot of those 37 million are not registered voters.

MarkTheGreat on September 4, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Update: Biden calls Palin “lieutenant governor”

Has anyone been counting the Biden gaffes so far?

What are the other ones, that he’s running for president, not vice president. And was there just one other before that? His introduction of “Barack America?” or something.

wise_man on September 4, 2008 at 4:36 PM

It’s becoming crystal-clear: That “O” is really a ZERO!!

Vote the HERO not the ZERO!

max1 on September 4, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Nah, no red meat from the Mavster tonight. His job is to reach out to the moderates. I doubt his speech is half as satisfying as hers was, but there is a method to the madness.

Immolate on September 4, 2008 at 4:36 PM

At least it’s a step up from Barry who keeps refering to her as the mayor of Wasilly.

“I don’t mind being referred to as ‘Mayor’ by the junior Illinois state senator…”

Jim Treacher on September 4, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Biden just isn’t all that smart or articulate. I doubt it was a slam, just his mind trying to combine the concepts of VP and Governor at the same time and coming up with this.

Asher on September 4, 2008 at 4:37 PM

First The One discussed her as though she were still the mayor of Wasilla, now this:

Obama did it on purpose, Biden is a goof ball. He will make so many errors like this, that the Republican VP (who shall remain nameless), will look like Einstein.

right2bright on September 4, 2008 at 4:37 PM

“And the other thing I heard, I heard a very – by the way, I mean this sincerely – a very strong and a very good political speech from a lieutenant governor of Alaska, who I think is going to be very formidable, very formidable.”-Scranton Joe Biden (d) Library

Yeah Joe keep firing….purposely underselling her won’t make people take a closer look at Messiah’s “I’m a community organizer damnit!” schtick….you boys better have a lot of cadavers ready to vote bub

sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 4:37 PM

I amend my last post.
Biden is the Democrats Quayle. That should be the new mantra.

right2bright on September 4, 2008 at 4:38 PM

He’s not going to be on O’Reilly live tonight, is he? We couldn’t be that lucky.

Jim Treacher on September 4, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Nope, taped. But the latest victim of the Obama bus is his stance on the surge.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/04/obama-surge-succeeded-beyond-wildest-dreams/

Damiano on September 4, 2008 at 4:38 PM

Obama did it on purpose, Biden is a goof ball. He will make so many errors like this, that the Republican VP (who shall remain nameless), will look like Einstein.

right2bright on September 4, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Yeah, but Biden is still smarter than you…

Rick on September 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Look, the community organizer from Illinois has no clothes.

BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM

A little while ago on Fox, after his interview with O’Reilly he was bombarded by questions about last night, and I swear he looked like he was going to bust a vein.

He whined (and stomped)and accused Republicans of spreading vitriole about him and his good works.

Poor baby. Boo Freakin’ Hoo.

tru2tx on September 4, 2008 at 4:04 PM

Mega Dittos and a big Amen to that! THE ONE looked like he need to do #2!

As to Mark the Great, another mega dittos! According to some data I looked at in June, THE ONE was leaking new donors in a major way. The difference between new donors from March to June indicated a significant shift in the opposite direction regarding the money bundles. McCain had more cash on hand and was not throwing his money around like a drunken sailor! The 65,000 new donors THE ONE and his campaign organizers boasted about recently were made up of the Union members and Lobbyist that he had to tap to pay for those Greek columns and Communist Chinese fireworks at Invesco Field. Keep in mind they still had to pay for the original renting of the Convention Center there in Denver that was to be the original site for his coronation.

Here is just one story in June that demonstrates the ship was going down.
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-donor-base-shrivels-campaign.html

So yes, there is real trouble for THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZER on all fronts. He has a Hockey Mom with lipstick coming after him like an Arkansas Razorback, the Indies are dumping him, and even Joe the Gaffemaster stuck it to him today by saying he was “glad those zingers were not aimed at me!” LMAO in finally sunshine seeing Mississippi! And just one more problem for him, THANK GOD FOOTBALL IS BACK TONIGHT SO I DO NOT HAVE TO LISTEN TO HIS UH’S! GO GIANTS!

freeus on September 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM

It’s verrry dangerous for the dems to do this because it relegates barry to the number 2 spot

ConservativePartyNow on September 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM

He’s not going to be on O’Reilly live tonight, is he? We couldn’t be that lucky.

Jim Treacher on September 4, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Unfortunately, no. BOR made a big deal about flying out in 30 minutes to go interview Obama at the end of his show last night. Plus, it is a 2 or 3 part segment with only segment 1 tonight.

BacaDog on September 4, 2008 at 4:40 PM

Biden: Biggest idiot, evah.

Kafir on September 4, 2008 at 4:41 PM

wise_man on September 4, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Asher on September 4, 2008 at 4:37 PM

sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 4:37 PM

it was purely on purpose..

Joe puts on the appearance of the bumbler that allows him license to say crap like that.

DaveC on September 4, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Nope, taped. But the latest victim of the Obama bus is his stance on the surge.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/04/obama-surge-succeeded-beyond-wildest-dreams/

Damiano on September 4, 2008 at 4:38 PM

If true, Olby, Matthews, the nuts, and the rest will go beserk.

BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 4:41 PM

He’s not going to be on O’Reilly live tonight, is he? We couldn’t be that lucky.

I don’t think so, Jim. I can’t confirm it, since I have been DEVOURING the ‘Net today, but I read somewhere else that the interview has already taken place and Obama was off in interviews elsewhere– looking pissed.

It might be too much to hope that he was pissed about an O’Reilly interview that did not go well, and not simply still smarting from Giuliani and Palin.

Of course it couldn’t have gone spectacularly well, either.

benjamin on September 4, 2008 at 4:42 PM

Wow. Somebody start the Andrea Mitchell suicide watch

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2E5ZDFlNGE1MTE3MjZmMWExYzI2YTVhMTQ1MGRiZjI=

Chuck Schick on September 4, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Obama’s secretly recorded initial response to Gov. Palins’ speech last night:

“Oh! You cursed brat. Look what you’ve done. I’m melting! Melting! Oh, what a world! What a world! Who would have thought a good little girl like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness. Oh, I’m gone, I’m gone, I’m going. Oh. Oh.”

BobMbx on September 4, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Update: Biden calls Palin “lieutenant governor”

In a previous life, Biden was a door knob.

Patrick S on September 4, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Why would Sen. Biden have to resort to that tactic? According to the Obama campaign, she has no experience? I’m so confused.

jtorres138 on September 4, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Biden, ol’ stumbling, stuttering gaffe machine.

Enoxo on September 4, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Montana on September 4, 2008 at 4:11 PM

1. Google the word “Grue.”

2. Read carefully and comprehend the reference.

3. Comeback here and apologize, hat in hand.

ManlyRash on September 4, 2008 at 4:44 PM

A little while ago on Fox, after his interview with O’Reilly he was bombarded by questions about last night, and I swear he looked like he was going to bust a vein.

Anyone have a link to video?

BacaDog on September 4, 2008 at 4:44 PM

That’s why we were all so dilirious when Biden was the pick.

At the time, I gave slightly over 50% chance Hillary would agree to be VP (for the Unity theme) and worked subtly to give GOP ticket (McCain/un-named VP) this election.

Now, this is more dilicous than you can count. After Palin’s performance, Hillary is smart enough to realize her chance is done.

Sir Napsalot on September 4, 2008 at 4:44 PM

Biden: Freudian slip! Freudian slip!

What a tool…he and Barack America, I mean, Obama.

CP on September 4, 2008 at 4:46 PM

The Obama-Biden campaign doesn’t know how to respond to Palin. They fear that if they’re too aggressive, they may anger white women voters and, to a lesser extent, blue collar middle class voters. These are the two constituencies that they absolutey need to attract in order to win.

So far, they’ve let the press do the dirty work. But with the impressive performance last night, the press will back off – for now – their assaults. Return engagement is likely.

But between now and then, the Obama/Biden campaign is advised to let her go. In return, Palin needs to double down and press harder.

Risky; but the rewards may be tremendous.

SteveMG on September 4, 2008 at 4:46 PM

They just showed a tease of O’Reilly’s show with Bambi –

His body language looks like he’s not at all comfortable.

Nyah ha ha….

tru2tx on September 4, 2008 at 4:46 PM

Anyone have a link to video?

BacaDog on September 4, 2008 at 4:44 PM

comedy gold

sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 4:46 PM

I think that every time we catch a “reporter” calling Palin a “small town mayor”, we ought to call him a “paper boy”. In Biden’s case, we ought to call him a “small-state lawyer”.

Maybe they’ll get the point after awhile…but I’m not holding my breath: liberalism is a disease characterized by an acute learning disability.

landlines on September 4, 2008 at 4:46 PM

Biden can’t tell a brigade from a battalion, or his head from his a$$.

He just opened himself up for a barracuda attack: the dems still don’t know who they are dealing with. This slight

The VP debate will be fun to watch.

Right_of_Attila on September 4, 2008 at 4:47 PM

Democrat Senators are all douche bags

kirkill on September 4, 2008 at 4:47 PM

Biden calls Palin “lieutenant governor”

He meant “attorney general”.

progressoverpeace on September 4, 2008 at 4:48 PM

the democratic ticket has to be dumb/dumber 08.

how many states do we have again nobama???

Mojack420 on September 4, 2008 at 4:48 PM

Wow. Somebody start the Andrea Mitchell suicide watch

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2E5ZDFlNGE1MTE3MjZmMWExYzI2YTVhMTQ1MGRiZjI=

Heh! I was “a reader.” That clip should be enshrined.

Jim Treacher on September 4, 2008 at 4:48 PM

Mission Accomplished.
Our #2 is seen as a fraction less qualified than Obama.

marklmail on September 4, 2008 at 4:48 PM

Does Biden think his audience is too stupid to know the difference?

Terrye on September 4, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Yeah, but Biden is still smarter than you…

Rick on September 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM

What????
What are you talking about, do you know me? Does it make a difference to you? Are you a lunatic???, I’ll answer that, yes!!

right2bright on September 4, 2008 at 4:49 PM

A little while ago on Fox, after his interview with O’Reilly he was bombarded by questions about last night, and I swear he looked like he was going to bust a vein.
Anyone have a link to video?

BacaDog on September 4, 2008 at 4:44 PM

None that I’m aware of because it will air on tonight’s O’Reilly Factor.

tru2tx on September 4, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Once this convention is over and McCain and Palin get on tour, the only way Obama and Biden will be able to get news time will be with their gaffes.

Dusty on September 4, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Biden can’t tell a brigade from a battalion, or his head from his a$$.
Right_of_Attila on September 4, 2008 at 4:47 PM

to be fair to old joe its hard to tell the difference between his head and his a$$ , when his head is lodged tightly up his a$$ 99.9999% of the time .

Mojack420 on September 4, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Anyone remember how many people voted in 2004?
MarkTheGreat on September 4, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Bush received 62 million; John “D-student” Kerry 59 million.

dhawbake on September 4, 2008 at 4:51 PM

Biden – “Lieutenant Gov”? Intentional slip, and Pathetic.

marklmail on September 4, 2008 at 4:51 PM

DAMN she is stunned….

OUTSTANDING

sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 4:52 PM

right2bright on September 4, 2008 at 4:49 PM

SARCASM based on this.

Rick on September 4, 2008 at 4:53 PM

Update: Biden calls Palin “lieutenant governor”

In a previous life, Biden was a door knob.

Patrick S on September 4, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Nah, a door knob has a function.

carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 4:53 PM

to be fair to old joe its hard to tell the difference between his head and his a$$ , when his head is lodged tightly up his a$$ 99.9999% of the time .

Mojack420 on September 4, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Ergo, AssHat. (Better than a comb-over)

BobMbx on September 4, 2008 at 4:53 PM

Yeah, but Biden is still smarter than you…

Rick on September 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM

What????
What are you talking about, do you know me? Does it make a difference to you? Are you a lunatic???, I’ll answer that, yes!!

right2bright on September 4, 2008 at 4:49 PM

I think Rick was being facetious, vis-a-vis Biden stating he had a higher IQ to the reporter in 1988.

carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 4:54 PM

I thought maybe Biden was hitting a little too much on the scotch bottle

Kat_Mo on September 4, 2008 at 4:54 PM

Wow. Somebody start the Andrea Mitchell suicide watch

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2E5ZDFlNGE1MTE3MjZmMWExYzI2YTVhMTQ1MGRiZjI=

Chuck Schick on September 4, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Check out the accompanying article.

http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=NDQ3ZjAxNWQ3NTAxNzFhYmZmZjFmYWZkOWEzYWFiY2E=

Hey, a little off topic, what effect will Kwame Kilpatrick, Detroit mayor, pleading guilty, heading to the slammer for four months, and paying a $1M fine have on McCain-Palin chances in Michigan?

Another big Obama character reference off to jail.

BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 4:55 PM

Methinks the O’Reilly interview did not go well for Obama.

For all of his faults, O’Reilly can drill down during an interview and break through the pretense.

Perhaps Obama couldn’t stand it.

Personally, I like O’Reilly for many of the same reasons I think most of us are attracted to Palin. That is, someone from middle class/humble backgrounds taking on the liberal elites.

I love that storyline.

SteveMG on September 4, 2008 at 4:55 PM

lieutenant governor of Alaska

Cue the “I’m the freaking governor” soundclip.

apostic on September 4, 2008 at 4:56 PM

I am very pleasantly surprized at the campaign McCain has run. Let’s face it he has never been challenged in his campaigns in AZ.

Who would of predicted how he kept himself in the news during the Democratic convention? Such the Dems are trying to do the same but they are failing! They have only suceeded in increasing interest in Palin.

And now the VP pick is so much better than any of us could have predicted and took some very original thinking! Sure Palin had her admirers but clear up there in the frozen north she was just off the radar.

I feel so much more ready to believe McCain when he says he’s going to shake things up, when he says he’s going after Bin Laden, when he wants to get off foreign oil… Just everything seems like it is possible now!

petunia on September 4, 2008 at 4:56 PM

ManlyRash on September 4, 2008 at 4:44 PM

Bonus points if you ever played the game

LimeyGeek on September 4, 2008 at 4:57 PM

ROFL!

The RNC has a Biden gaffe counter on their homepage.

Time since Biden’s last gaffe: 1 day, 6 hours, 46 minutes!!

BacaDog on September 4, 2008 at 4:57 PM

Wow. Somebody start the Andrea Mitchell suicide watch

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2E5ZDFlNGE1MTE3MjZmMWExYzI2YTVhMTQ1MGRiZjI=

A classic, I saw that live, she took on the ultra cool persona, after being slapped around.
Each of these lib MSM’rs, when attacked (which they aren’t normally) go into a shell shock. Like that MSNBC Ron Allen reporter Newt put into the fetal position when challenged on Palin credentials.
Challenge their assertions, and make them pay for their lies.
They are just a bunch of waterboys…

right2bright on September 4, 2008 at 4:59 PM

carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 4:54 PM

Yes, thank you. I should have put the SARCASM on the comment.

Rick on September 4, 2008 at 4:59 PM

Mission Accomplished STARTED.
Our #2 is seen as a fraction less qualified than Obama.

marklmail on September 4, 2008 at 4:48 PM

This is only 5 days in. Folks need to start seeing the truth- that she is eminently more qualified than a community organizer who’s only claim of experience is running for President (which I still this means that he is endorsing Nader).

Mission Accomplished will be when everyone acknowledges that she not only outclasses a stuttering, self aggrandizing fool by miles, but she is also one of the most accomplished and talented politicians in the US but will be the best thing to happen to the VP office since they changed the Constitution to have the office be selected instead of occupied by the loser.

Damiano on September 4, 2008 at 5:02 PM

Heh! I was “a reader.” That clip should be enshrined.

Jim Treacher on September 4, 2008 at 4:48 PM

Nice Jim. Hahaha… Old Greenspan didn’t get none last night.

Chuck Schick on September 4, 2008 at 5:05 PM

Biden is a tool- one of the useless ones that sits in the bottom of the tool box, like the teeny-tiny hex wrench that fits nothing.

I’ve always thought Delaware could do better, and maybe after seeing how much embarressment he brings to the state, they will do better in the future.

Anna on September 4, 2008 at 5:06 PM

– a very strong and a very good political speech from a lieutenant governor of Alaska

Biden really doesn’t know that Sean Parnell is running for Congress (that would be MY LT Gov.) I hope Biden opens his eyes and takes him thumb out of his mouth soon. He is going to be in for a RUDE awakening!

upinak on September 4, 2008 at 5:07 PM

I saw Andrea this morning and she still looked unhappy. She is clearly offended by the accusation that the media is sexist and biased. She was interviewing Vin Webber and she asked him if he thought the media was sexist or over the top… And he said, Oh you wouldn’t be defensive about that would you…. silence…. at least that’s what I remember.

I try to remember that she married Alan Greenspan so she must have some ability to see the other side of things but still she is sooooooo biased in this coverage.

petunia on September 4, 2008 at 5:07 PM

You sure Biden actually said that and didn’t just plagiarize it?

phelps on September 4, 2008 at 5:07 PM

That makes Biden a Sort Of Senator.

maverick muse on September 4, 2008 at 5:10 PM

phelps, follow the links back to MSNBC:

From NBC/NJ’s Mike Memoli
Campaigning in Virginia today, Biden accidentally demoted Palin from governor to lieutenant governor.

“And the other thing I heard, I heard a very — by the way, I mean this sincerely — a very strong and a very good political speech from a lieutenant governor of Alaska, who I think is going to be very formidable, very formidable… But I was equally impressed by what I didn’t hear, what I didn’t hear in the speech.”

MAIN PAGE

maverick muse on September 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM

It’s hard to blame the junior congressman from Delaware.

He’s so busy talking he doesn’t have much time left for current events.

sulla on September 4, 2008 at 5:15 PM

I loved Rudy! clarifying the comparison for the ignorant who call Alaska too small to be of any national significance.

Alaska has as many electoral votes as Biden’s Delaware.
But it takes 250 Delawares to match one Alaska.

maverick muse on September 4, 2008 at 5:23 PM

…not to mention the productive economic comparison between Delaware and Alaska…

maverick muse on September 4, 2008 at 5:24 PM

If she’s Lt Gov; then he is Major Dumbass.

RobG on September 4, 2008 at 5:24 PM

Nah, a door knob has a function.

And sometimes it turns to the right.

Jim Treacher on September 4, 2008 at 5:28 PM

obama post-o’reilly press conference (crappy quality tho’)

gh on September 4, 2008 at 5:32 PM

I think Rick was being facetious, vis-a-vis Biden stating he had a higher IQ to the reporter in 1988.

carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 4:54 PM

Perhaps, since they opened the door for a day, a few little trolls drifted in. Hard to determine, however, the trolls are usually a little more subtle.
Kind of the “I have always been a Republican….” style.

right2bright on September 4, 2008 at 5:36 PM

It’s probably been said several times already, but McCain has ceded nothing on the experience front. If asked, McCain should say, “Of course both Governor Palin and Senator Obama have enough experience to be Vice President.”

Buford Gooch on September 4, 2008 at 5:37 PM

When asked, Obama listed as his experience to be President:

1. Community organizer, helping unemployed.
2. 2008 Presidential campaign, (campaign manager is actually the executive or CEO, the candidate is the face or brand of the ‘business’.)

When asked about foreign policy experience, Obama stated that:

1. He moved to Indonesia when he was 8 years old.
2. He visited Pakistan while he was in college.

Obama listed these as the highlights of his experience for president. He has nothing better to put forward. How weak –in his OWN WORDS!

jerseyman on September 4, 2008 at 5:43 PM

When someone says that Sarah Palin was mayor of a ‘small’ town of 7,000. “and Obama was mayor of what city? How big was it?”
When someone tries to downplay governor (they are staying away from this point – ie Obama ignoring her experience as governor, Biden mentioning Lieutenant Governor) ” and what state was Obama governor, how big?” Newt had the right approach.

jerseyman on September 4, 2008 at 5:48 PM

I hope someone points out tonight that McCain was elected and Obama was selected (by the Superdelegates).

jerseyman on September 4, 2008 at 5:51 PM

jerseyman on September 4, 2008 at 5:48 PM —

Yes, Newt gets it. Why haven’t all the others?

Set the theme, set the timing, set the tempo, control the debate.

Easiest way is to nail them right up front. They say “x”. McCain/Palin/GOP/everyone should say “why?”

“You were merely a mayor.” “Yes. Darn proud if it. And you’ve done what? Ran a payroll? Fire Department? Police force? Sewage department?”

“I was a community organizer.” “Who hired you? Who paid you? To whom were you answerable? Ever had to fire an employee? Why?”

One of my favorite boss’s ever had a knack for knocking down BS before it gained roots by nailing the person spouting the BS on the simple questions, rapid fire questions. All done in a clam, but firm, voice. Get them off script. Let the “umms, and uh’s” start and then build to a torrent. Force them to force themselves off message.

coldwarrior on September 4, 2008 at 5:59 PM

I can’t imagine replacing Biden with Hillary after Guiliani’s joke last night–“If I were Joe Biden, I’d get that VP thing in writing.” Can you? That would be a ready-made commercial played over and over and over again. No, he’s pretty much stuck with Biden now. Guiliani saw to that.

mikeinamman on September 4, 2008 at 6:09 PM

If I didn’t know better, I’d swear Biden was suffering from dementia. Ahem.

He doesn’t seem to realize he’s running for VP, he can’t keep straight the difference between a brigade and a battalion, and he doesn’t seem to be able to understand exactly what his opponent does.

I’m getting rather concerned about old Joe.

capitalist piglet on September 4, 2008 at 6:29 PM

“I’m getting rather concerned about old Joe.”

capitalist piglet on September 4, 2008 at 6:29 PM —

Back in WWII “old Joe” was an Army slang term for syphillis.

coldwarrior on September 4, 2008 at 7:14 PM

Dirty Joe really needs to lay off the sauce.

steadyrock on September 4, 2008 at 8:01 PM

right2bright on September 4, 2008 at 5:36 PM

Get over yourself. I said I was being sarcastic – – and no, I didn’t just come in the door the last registration, chief. I’ve been here since the beginning. Ridiculous.

Rick on September 5, 2008 at 12:15 AM