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	<title>Comments on: Michigan &#8220;independent&#8221; in much-linked Palin focus group is &#8230; a Cindy Sheehan supporter; Update: More fake independents?</title>
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		<title>By: inmypajamas</title>
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		<dc:creator>inmypajamas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, this woman is such an independent thinker that she manages to parrot three Dem talking points in less than 30 seconds.  To her, &quot;independent&quot; just means &quot;not a right-wing fascist nutball&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, this woman is such an independent thinker that she manages to parrot three Dem talking points in less than 30 seconds.  To her, &#8220;independent&#8221; just means &#8220;not a right-wing fascist nutball&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: 18-1</title>
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		<dc:creator>18-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

The answer is yes because the rules the press uses for finding independents is rather obtuse. This is how it works.

gabriel sutherland on September 4, 2008 at 3:33 PM
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Actually, I think the problem is that conservatives and right leaning independents are too disgusted by members of the media to want to spend the time talking to them.</description>
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<p>The answer is yes because the rules the press uses for finding independents is rather obtuse. This is how it works.</p>
<p>gabriel sutherland on September 4, 2008 at 3:33 PM
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<p>Actually, I think the problem is that conservatives and right leaning independents are too disgusted by members of the media to want to spend the time talking to them.</p>
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		<title>By: 18-1</title>
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		<dc:creator>18-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

This has to be a Soros’ plan…

Gin up false numbers on pre-election polls, introduce fake indpendents into polling and focus groups, get the MSM to amplify these numbers (using David Brock/Media matters daily talking points) so that the pre-election buzz will be an Obama blow out over McCain by something around 15-20 points….and then, when the voting results come in, they can claim voter intimidation, GOP screwing with voting machines, “ballot errors” and such to try to discredit a Mccain win.

Look at the last two general elections…all the polls showed the Dems would win handily.

coldwarrior on September 4, 2008 at 3:25 PM
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Actually, in 2004 the Democrats went so far as to leak fake exit polling to the media, as they were following pretty much the same plan you list above.</description>
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<p>This has to be a Soros’ plan…</p>
<p>Gin up false numbers on pre-election polls, introduce fake indpendents into polling and focus groups, get the MSM to amplify these numbers (using David Brock/Media matters daily talking points) so that the pre-election buzz will be an Obama blow out over McCain by something around 15-20 points….and then, when the voting results come in, they can claim voter intimidation, GOP screwing with voting machines, “ballot errors” and such to try to discredit a Mccain win.</p>
<p>Look at the last two general elections…all the polls showed the Dems would win handily.</p>
<p>coldwarrior on September 4, 2008 at 3:25 PM
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<p>Actually, in 2004 the Democrats went so far as to leak fake exit polling to the media, as they were following pretty much the same plan you list above.</p>
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		<title>By: Count to 10</title>
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		<dc:creator>Count to 10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

    TexasJew on September 4, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Maybe it’s just me, but I still think that when Obama-sama comes to Hillary on his knees pleading, she’ll just laugh and say “Hell no” then walk away.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on September 4, 2008 at 3:31 PM
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Just so you know, the suffix &quot;-sama&quot; in Japanese is a sign of great respect, reserved for those one recognizes as socially superior to themselves.

Oddly enough, &quot;O&quot; is big and important, sometimes used in place of &quot;boss&quot; or &quot;king.&quot;

I am suddenly curious how the Japanese report on terrorism.</description>
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<p>    TexasJew on September 4, 2008 at 3:21 PM</p>
<p>Maybe it’s just me, but I still think that when Obama-sama comes to Hillary on his knees pleading, she’ll just laugh and say “Hell no” then walk away.</p>
<p>*eats*</p>
<p>Grue in the Attic on September 4, 2008 at 3:31 PM
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<p>Just so you know, the suffix &#8220;-sama&#8221; in Japanese is a sign of great respect, reserved for those one recognizes as socially superior to themselves.</p>
<p>Oddly enough, &#8220;O&#8221; is big and important, sometimes used in place of &#8220;boss&#8221; or &#8220;king.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am suddenly curious how the Japanese report on terrorism.</p>
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		<title>By: ManlyRash</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strike&gt;VOTE JOHN McCAIN * SARAH PALIN 2008 &lt;/strike&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;VOTE JOHN MC BRILLIANT * SARAH&#039;CUDA 2008&lt;/strong&gt;

Fixed it.</description>
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<p><strong>VOTE JOHN MC BRILLIANT * SARAH&#8217;CUDA 2008</strong></p>
<p>Fixed it.</p>
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		<title>By: byteshredder</title>
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		<dc:creator>byteshredder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where Oblahblah bowled gutter balls, Sarah Palin was knocking down strikes...

&lt;strong&gt;VOTE JOHN McCAIN * SARAH PALIN 2008&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where Oblahblah bowled gutter balls, Sarah Palin was knocking down strikes&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>VOTE JOHN McCAIN * SARAH PALIN 2008</strong></p>
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		<title>By: mikeyboss</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;On a scale of 1 to 10?

Bingo!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On a scale of 1 to 10?</p>
<p>Bingo!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BobMbx</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, you know the Dems are aching for Danny Boy &#039;bout now....with some good ole&#039; fashioned news stories.

BTW, I hear Lucy Ramirez is back in Texas and is scheduled to slip some freshly forged documents to a prominent political commentator.  Unknown sources say it&#039;s hard to know exactly who&#039;ll get them, but they&#039;re sure the last name starts with O,l,b..or something close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you know the Dems are aching for Danny Boy &#8217;bout now&#8230;.with some good ole&#8217; fashioned news stories.</p>
<p>BTW, I hear Lucy Ramirez is back in Texas and is scheduled to slip some freshly forged documents to a prominent political commentator.  Unknown sources say it&#8217;s hard to know exactly who&#8217;ll get them, but they&#8217;re sure the last name starts with O,l,b..or something close.</p>
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		<title>By: Disturb the Universe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disturb the Universe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Or Andrew Sullivan for someone who’s “right-leaning.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Last night I switched over to C-Span where they had a young woman whose job it was to check the blogs, &lt;strong&gt;both right and left&lt;/strong&gt;, for reaction to Palin&#039;s speech.  She briefly mentioned a favorable review on RedState and then focused heavily on Sullivan&#039;s negative reaction before ticking off numerous negative liberal responses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Or Andrew Sullivan for someone who’s “right-leaning.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Last night I switched over to C-Span where they had a young woman whose job it was to check the blogs, <strong>both right and left</strong>, for reaction to Palin&#8217;s speech.  She briefly mentioned a favorable review on RedState and then focused heavily on Sullivan&#8217;s negative reaction before ticking off numerous negative liberal responses.</p>
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		<title>By: Urban Infidel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Urban Infidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fake is the new black.</description>
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		<title>By: ConMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Berkley independent………………?

BBBBBBBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAH!!!!!!!!!

Seven Percent Solution on September 4, 2008 at 4:01 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Berkley, Michigan...NOTHING like BerkEley, California.  Thank God!  I&#039;ll be watching for this  Ilene person around town :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Berkley independent………………?</p>
<p>BBBBBBBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAH!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Seven Percent Solution on September 4, 2008 at 4:01 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Berkley, Michigan&#8230;NOTHING like BerkEley, California.  Thank God!  I&#8217;ll be watching for this  Ilene person around town :)</p>
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		<title>By: petunia</title>
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		<dc:creator>petunia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Need to know about the illegal immigration thing? If McCain mentions..”God’s Children” tonight, I’m gonna throw my laptop thru the television!

HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 2:30 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes.  That God&#039;s Children thing he says... I&#039;m going to write this in case they have someone who looks at the blogs to see what people really think.

Of course they are God&#039;s Children.  The entire population of the world are God&#039;s Children.  If that is all it takes to be an American well we are totally sunk.  

Why have borders at all if all God&#039;s Children should be allowed to be automatic Americans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Need to know about the illegal immigration thing? If McCain mentions..”God’s Children” tonight, I’m gonna throw my laptop thru the television!</p>
<p>HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 2:30 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes.  That God&#8217;s Children thing he says&#8230; I&#8217;m going to write this in case they have someone who looks at the blogs to see what people really think.</p>
<p>Of course they are God&#8217;s Children.  The entire population of the world are God&#8217;s Children.  If that is all it takes to be an American well we are totally sunk.  </p>
<p>Why have borders at all if all God&#8217;s Children should be allowed to be automatic Americans?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkTheGreat</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As Kenny Bania in Seinfeld would say, “It’s GOLD, Jerry, PURE GOLD.”

BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 3:30 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What she needs to do is call a quarter announcers booth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As Kenny Bania in Seinfeld would say, “It’s GOLD, Jerry, PURE GOLD.”</p>
<p>BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 3:30 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>What she needs to do is call a quarter announcers booth.</p>
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		<title>By: petunia</title>
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		<dc:creator>petunia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ilene Beninson, 52, Berkley independent&lt;/blockquote&gt;  In fairness, this woman possibly does think she is independent.  She&#039;s from BERKLEY!  If she once had a thought that America was a nice place to live.  that makes her the most Independent thinker she knows!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ilene Beninson, 52, Berkley independent</p></blockquote>
<p>  In fairness, this woman possibly does think she is independent.  She&#8217;s from BERKLEY!  If she once had a thought that America was a nice place to live.  that makes her the most Independent thinker she knows!</p>
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		<title>By: FiveWays</title>
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		<dc:creator>FiveWays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; don’t think AP posts anything for ratings. He has his own voice and his own style - some people love it (like myself) and others hate it so much they feel the need to log in and yell at him. There are still others that ignore him altogether. My point being that, just because his style works doesn’t mean he’s actually Little Susie Sunshine with a persona built to get ratings.

JadeNYU on September 4, 2008 at 2:34 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And yet- here we are creating traffic talking about his pessimism

Like I said Ratings Whore!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> don’t think AP posts anything for ratings. He has his own voice and his own style &#8211; some people love it (like myself) and others hate it so much they feel the need to log in and yell at him. There are still others that ignore him altogether. My point being that, just because his style works doesn’t mean he’s actually Little Susie Sunshine with a persona built to get ratings.</p>
<p>JadeNYU on September 4, 2008 at 2:34 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>And yet- here we are creating traffic talking about his pessimism</p>
<p>Like I said Ratings Whore!</p>
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		<title>By: eaglewingz08</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the commie party isn&#039;t one of the two parties that come up explicitly in the polling group questions, the next best thing leftwing loonies can do is call themselves &#039;Independent&#039;. No surprise that Corporal Sheehan&#039;s people are being polled or that &#039;community organizers&#039; fill the trough of &#039;independents&#039; polled by the libmedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the commie party isn&#8217;t one of the two parties that come up explicitly in the polling group questions, the next best thing leftwing loonies can do is call themselves &#8216;Independent&#8217;. No surprise that Corporal Sheehan&#8217;s people are being polled or that &#8216;community organizers&#8217; fill the trough of &#8216;independents&#8217; polled by the libmedia.</p>
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		<title>By: Seven Percent Solution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seven Percent Solution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ilene Beninson, 52, Berkley independent:&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Berkley independent..................?&lt;/em&gt;


&lt;strong&gt;BBBBBBBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAH!!!!!!!!!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ilene Beninson, 52, Berkley independent:</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Berkley independent&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;?</em></p>
<p><strong>BBBBBBBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAH!!!!!!!!!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: BuckeyeSam</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama says he’s a White Sox fan. McCain should be throwing out the first pitch at Wrigley Field decked out in a big Cubs hat.

I’d have Palin scheduled for a coin flip at some Big Ten games.

Have the Hockey Mom drop the first puck in the NHL season.

gabriel sutherland on September 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I hear you. I&#039;d gamble on Obama throwing out a pitch and drilling it in the dirt! The problem for McCain is that I doubt he has the range of motion to throw. Seriously. So, McCain and Palin should do handshakes and coin tosses at OSU, at Michigan (the Big House), at Penn State, and at Notre Dame.

What&#039;s unfortunate is that Ohio State plays the Naval Academy at home...in 2009! Too late. Oh well. But I&#039;m telling you, these football games would be big too for at least some college students. I have a niece starting at OSU. I don&#039;t think she dares to vote for Obama, but I&#039;m not sure I trust her because her mother was a Hillary backer. Her husband (my brother) makes pretty big dough, so after the conversation about how Obama will jack up their taxes, I&#039;m sure she&#039;ll be on board. Anyway, the Midwest college kids seeing McCain and Palin may finally decide, &quot;Mom and Dad were right when I was home this summer. What&#039;s a &#039;community organizer&#039;?&quot;

Game over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama says he’s a White Sox fan. McCain should be throwing out the first pitch at Wrigley Field decked out in a big Cubs hat.</p>
<p>I’d have Palin scheduled for a coin flip at some Big Ten games.</p>
<p>Have the Hockey Mom drop the first puck in the NHL season.</p>
<p>gabriel sutherland on September 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I hear you. I&#8217;d gamble on Obama throwing out a pitch and drilling it in the dirt! The problem for McCain is that I doubt he has the range of motion to throw. Seriously. So, McCain and Palin should do handshakes and coin tosses at OSU, at Michigan (the Big House), at Penn State, and at Notre Dame.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s unfortunate is that Ohio State plays the Naval Academy at home&#8230;in 2009! Too late. Oh well. But I&#8217;m telling you, these football games would be big too for at least some college students. I have a niece starting at OSU. I don&#8217;t think she dares to vote for Obama, but I&#8217;m not sure I trust her because her mother was a Hillary backer. Her husband (my brother) makes pretty big dough, so after the conversation about how Obama will jack up their taxes, I&#8217;m sure she&#8217;ll be on board. Anyway, the Midwest college kids seeing McCain and Palin may finally decide, &#8220;Mom and Dad were right when I was home this summer. What&#8217;s a &#8216;community organizer&#8217;?&#8221;</p>
<p>Game over.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
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		<description>&quot;Hey, let&#039;s convince Barack Obama that he doesn&#039;t need to worry about independents.&quot;
&quot;Yeah.  What could go wrong?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hey, let&#8217;s convince Barack Obama that he doesn&#8217;t need to worry about independents.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Yeah.  What could go wrong?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Physics Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Physics Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw several lib website flogging the whole &quot;independents don&#039;t like her&quot; meme. I assummed, and apparently rightly so, that these &quot;independents&quot; were members of Code Pink, Daily Kos, Eschaton and Atrios, and deemed to be independent due to the following vetting of said voters:

Q: When&#039;s the last time you voted for a Democrat?

A: Umm, sometime in 2006.

That&#039;s the new definition of an independent for the MSM: someone who hasn&#039;t voted for a Democrat since the last election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw several lib website flogging the whole &#8220;independents don&#8217;t like her&#8221; meme. I assummed, and apparently rightly so, that these &#8220;independents&#8221; were members of Code Pink, Daily Kos, Eschaton and Atrios, and deemed to be independent due to the following vetting of said voters:</p>
<p>Q: When&#8217;s the last time you voted for a Democrat?</p>
<p>A: Umm, sometime in 2006.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the new definition of an independent for the MSM: someone who hasn&#8217;t voted for a Democrat since the last election.</p>
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		<title>By: NoDonkey</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far left loonies are always going to be more likely to call themselves &quot;independent&quot;.  

They are intellectually stunted, angst-ridden, juvenile delinquents whose biggest ambition in life is to be different and to be one of the cool kids.  

Somehow, they think re-enacting the Summer of Love at age 59 is going to do that.  

Independent usually means that they are too far left even for the Democrat Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far left loonies are always going to be more likely to call themselves &#8220;independent&#8221;.  </p>
<p>They are intellectually stunted, angst-ridden, juvenile delinquents whose biggest ambition in life is to be different and to be one of the cool kids.  </p>
<p>Somehow, they think re-enacting the Summer of Love at age 59 is going to do that.  </p>
<p>Independent usually means that they are too far left even for the Democrat Party.</p>
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		<dc:creator>More MSM Mobies</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] The heartbreak of &#8220;Independents&#8221;   Posted by Dan Collins @ 7:38 pm &#124; Trackback Share This [...]</description>
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		<title>By: gabriel sutherland</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;BTW, I know I’ve beat this to death, but I’ve thought of this ever since Palin’s roll out in Dayton, Ohio. Later that day, one of the news stations showed Palin and the dynamite little daughter at a rest stop in Ohio on their way to PA. They were shopping for some Ohio State sportswear. I’m telling you that if you get Palin and at least some of those kids decked out in OSU-wear, showing up at an Ohio State home football game, and shaking hands with Head Coach Jim Tressel, Ohio will be won. That picture on the front page of the Columbus Dispatch, Cincinnati Enquirer, Cleveland Plain Dealer, Toledo Blade, and every other Ohio paper will be GOLD. Especially in Columbus, that’s Franklin county with a lot of college-town elites, but a lot of suburban moms who are OSU Buckeye nuts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I have some more ideas.

Obama says he&#039;s a White Sox fan.  McCain should be throwing out the first pitch at Wrigley Field decked out in a big Cubs hat.

I&#039;d have Palin scheduled for a coin flip at some Big Ten games.

Have the Hockey Mom drop the first puck in the NHL season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>BTW, I know I’ve beat this to death, but I’ve thought of this ever since Palin’s roll out in Dayton, Ohio. Later that day, one of the news stations showed Palin and the dynamite little daughter at a rest stop in Ohio on their way to PA. They were shopping for some Ohio State sportswear. I’m telling you that if you get Palin and at least some of those kids decked out in OSU-wear, showing up at an Ohio State home football game, and shaking hands with Head Coach Jim Tressel, Ohio will be won. That picture on the front page of the Columbus Dispatch, Cincinnati Enquirer, Cleveland Plain Dealer, Toledo Blade, and every other Ohio paper will be GOLD. Especially in Columbus, that’s Franklin county with a lot of college-town elites, but a lot of suburban moms who are OSU Buckeye nuts.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have some more ideas.</p>
<p>Obama says he&#8217;s a White Sox fan.  McCain should be throwing out the first pitch at Wrigley Field decked out in a big Cubs hat.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have Palin scheduled for a coin flip at some Big Ten games.</p>
<p>Have the Hockey Mom drop the first puck in the NHL season.</p>
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		<title>By: coldwarrior</title>
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		<description>BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 3:30 PM

Get online and send this to McCain/Palin...its got potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 3:30 PM</p>
<p>Get online and send this to McCain/Palin&#8230;its got potential.</p>
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		<title>By: gabriel sutherland</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your a social justice leader could you still be an &quot;independent&quot;?

The answer is yes because the rules the press uses for finding independents is rather obtuse.  This is how it works.

Q: Are you registered as a member of a political party?
A: No.
Q: Do you know who for whom you will cast your vote?
A: No.
Q: Is Hugo Chavez the greatest thing since sliced bread?
A: Yes.

The press will recognize this person as an independent.  They still have expectations that this is an acceptable method to determine if they are in fact actually talking to independents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your a social justice leader could you still be an &#8220;independent&#8221;?</p>
<p>The answer is yes because the rules the press uses for finding independents is rather obtuse.  This is how it works.</p>
<p>Q: Are you registered as a member of a political party?<br />
A: No.<br />
Q: Do you know who for whom you will cast your vote?<br />
A: No.<br />
Q: Is Hugo Chavez the greatest thing since sliced bread?<br />
A: Yes.</p>
<p>The press will recognize this person as an independent.  They still have expectations that this is an acceptable method to determine if they are in fact actually talking to independents.</p>
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