Michigan “independent” in much-linked Palin focus group is … a Cindy Sheehan supporter; Update: More fake independents?
posted at 2:20 pm on September 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Go figure, huh? Why, it’s even stranger than finding the media mistaking a Democrat for a “lifelong Republicans.”
Or Andrew Sullivan for someone who’s “right-leaning.”
Ilene Beninson, 52, Berkley independent: “Her speech contained few statements about policy or the party platform. … I am not convinced that Palin’s experience as a mayor or governor in Alaska meet the qualifications to be vice president much less one stroke or heart attack away from being commander in chief.”
Maybe Beninson’s in line with independent thinking notwithstanding her affinity for Mother Sheehan, though. Who knows?
Actually, I do. Palinmania:
After viewing Palin’s speech, a greater number of respondents across all parties believe that selecting
Governor Sarah Palin for vice president will help John McCain’s campaign. Republicans were especially positive about the implications of this pick, nearly three-quarters of whom suggest that this nomination will “definitely help” his campaign. After viewing the speech, 70% Republicans say they will “definitely” vote for the McCain/Palin ticket after viewing Palin’s speech.
There is a positive change in how independents anticipate voting in the Presidential election after viewing Palin’s speech, with a 9% increase among independents indicating that they will probably or definitely vote for the McCain/Palin ticket after watching the speech.
Palin’s speech proved to be equally effective in swaying votes for both men and women. Among the independents who watched her speech, respondents who report that they will “probably” or “definitely” vote for McCain increased by 10% across both genders, around 38% of female independents and 36% of their male counterparts.
Exit question: On a scale from one to 10, with one representing utter despair and 10 representing very cautious pessimism with strong hints of doubt, where should the big A’s mood meter regarding the GOP’s chances be set this afternoon? (Answer: Seven!)
Update: Har. Reader Ex-Tex e-mails to point out that another “independent” in the focus group is listed as a contact for the Detroit chapter of an anti-war group and, less persuasively perhaps, yet another is connected to an anti-war “social justice” church group. Can’t rule out a case of mistaken identity, but the names of each seem reasonably unique. I’m not going to ID them or link to the pages just because there’s contact information available at the sites, and inevitably when these sorts of stories pop up on the left or right, a few jackass readers will use the info to send hate mail. I don’t want to take any (admittedly small) chance of that happening here, so just take my word for it: The names are the same.
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Nice catch AP….
welcome aboard.
“Mother Moonbat is a nice independent leader”….yeah donks she sure is.
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 2:22 PM
And Keith Olberman is a “legitimate journalist”.
Chuck Schick on September 4, 2008 at 2:22 PM
Allah, it’s utterly adorable that your scale ranges from gloomy to a little less gloomy.
Honestly, that’s one of my favorite things about this blog.
Well, I come for the political insight and stay for the gloominess. The humping robots are just icing on the cake.
JadeNYU on September 4, 2008 at 2:23 PM
Exit Answer: Get on board the Palin Train or stand by and wave from the side of the tracks.
carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 2:23 PM
I’m thinking a new McCain ad with “Mayor” Palin vs. ex-Mayor Kilpatrick and Obama talking about the Kwammeister.
Mr_Magoo on September 4, 2008 at 2:23 PM
BTW.. love that picture of Cindy on the main page..
DaveC on September 4, 2008 at 2:23 PM
LOL!!
bnelson44 on September 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Journalistic credibility is an oxymoron (with an emphasis on the moron).
HawaiiLwyr on September 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM
lol 7
zane on September 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Me too. It’s as if she saw Palin coming.
BacaDog on September 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Bah, kick it up to 8 A! Have some hopenchange! XD
I’m telling you, the Palin pick was a beautifully executed fumblerooski. And the democrats don’t have the time to come up with anything good before Nov 5th.
apollyonbob on September 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Exit answer: It should be 10. She’s got the charm to win over the battleground folks. I’d honestly give each major candidate a 50/50 chance now after last night, which is really saying something with how this year has been for the GOP.
The Dean on September 4, 2008 at 2:25 PM
The democratic attack dogs have come out in full force. They all went whining to the media about how “Bitter and angry” Sarah’s speech was.
Funny acting bitter and angry about a speech isnt the best way to sell a bitter and angry argument.
William Amos on September 4, 2008 at 2:25 PM
I’d say 5 or 6. Remember, no matter what happens, we have a lot of work to do after the election.
Think_b4_speaking on September 4, 2008 at 2:25 PM
I guess on that scale I’m somewhere around sixteen.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 4, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Well no kidding. It was glaringly obvious that some of those “independents” were giving DNC talking points in reaction to Palin’s speech. Who else would claim that Palin “lied” about the “brdige to nowhere.” Please. She did not lie and only Daily Kos readers and their friends at the DNC believe the talking point.
dKap on September 4, 2008 at 2:27 PM
+1
(Do we yet deserve humping robots? Yes we can!)
T.Paine on September 4, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Nope. It’s like a 14.
Read Ace this morning. He makes a great point that McCain and Palin can draw crowds anywhere they go.
People will go see Obama. Ain’t no one showing up for Biden.
Twice the coverage. Small towns will win this thing.
lorien1973 on September 4, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Love her, but I’m at about six. This campaign trail has had so many potholes. All it will take is one tear to make the bus miss a curve.
Limerick on September 4, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Eh. Even before i reached the answer part i knew the answer would be 7.
ps: I’m at 7 too.
pps: ok, maybe 7.5 ;)
madne0 on September 4, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Last night on c-span one of the “media analyst” was reading various blogs. She had the audacity to call andrew sullivan a conservative blogger and she completely forgot to mention that he is an Obama supporter.
Complete7 on September 4, 2008 at 2:28 PM
AP,
I’d say a five which is pretty good considering all the refs are on their side.
John on September 4, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Allah- still milking the pessimist moniker to keep blog traffic up.
Folks- what we have here is the blogospheres version of Bill O’Jughead.
Ratings whore!
FiveWays on September 4, 2008 at 2:29 PM
um…that’s not the Ilene Beninson I knew!
kayo on September 4, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Moonbat for lunch, Grue??
8
Need to know about the illegal immigration thing? If McCain mentions..”God’s Children” tonight, I’m gonna throw my laptop thru the television!
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 2:30 PM
would admitting to trying to hump my tv screen last night qualify me as a 10?
DrW on September 4, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Hey, you know who’s a Sarah Palin supporter? Lindsay Lohan, that’s who.
I don’t know that that’s all that helpful, but…
Frozen Tex on September 4, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Mr_Magoo on September 4, 2008 at 2:30 PM
LMFAO! Allah, this was what I was waiting on you to answer last night.
Nice comeback… and come to Alaska anytime. it is kinda like Seattle.. with more trees!
upinak on September 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM
With barbeque sauce.
C’mon, you know we wouldn’t like him as much if he wasn’t. ;)
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Hey, stop using the Rights’ new slogan! Heh.
Coronagold on September 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM
There are no independents in Berkeley.
FIFY
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Chill AP…Mac will get a “helium bounce” that will get him across the finish line.
joepub on September 4, 2008 at 2:32 PM
You make me laugh Allah.
IrishMcPundit on September 4, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Independent = Lying Democrat Hack
TexasJew on September 4, 2008 at 2:32 PM
so how many points in polls does that translate into?
jp on September 4, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Hey, is David Shuster from Michigan? He’s an independent! LMAO.
Dusty on September 4, 2008 at 2:33 PM
And less weed, but more meth (according A. Sullivan) in Wasilla.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 4, 2008 at 2:33 PM
McCain finally broke 40 at InTrade.
Limerick on September 4, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Hey Allah- I posted about 4 of these ‘Independents’ this morning on the ‘Headline’ story you had up from the DFP.
These people are not independents.
Joellen Gilchrist is the contact person for Detroit Code Pink. http://www.codepink4peace.org/groups.php
George Lentz and Jan Wheeler are community organizers out of the same Detroit area church. http://www.bucmi.org/Annual%20Report%202007.pdf pg 1,49,50
http://www.northwestuu.org/old_site/social_justice_network. htm
Ilene Beninson is another Code Pink activist. http://www.targetofopportunity.com/hunger_strike.htm
I also emailed all this to Hotair this morning. Thanks for the h/t.
ExTex on September 4, 2008 at 2:33 PM
HEY, I am an independant. You don’t see me going Zero now, have you?
upinak on September 4, 2008 at 2:33 PM
You are SO busted.
Hunt035 on September 4, 2008 at 2:33 PM
I disagree. There is a huge difference between posting things crafted to get views/comments and posting things that happen to get views/comments.
I don’t think AP posts anything for ratings. He has his own voice and his own style – some people love it (like myself) and others hate it so much they feel the need to log in and yell at him. There are still others that ignore him altogether. My point being that, just because his style works doesn’t mean he’s actually Little Susie Sunshine with a persona built to get ratings.
JadeNYU on September 4, 2008 at 2:34 PM
And like Andrew knows WTF he is talking about. Maybe he should worry about his lawsuit coming up.
upinak on September 4, 2008 at 2:34 PM
The Dow is down 327 points. Damn you Sarah Palin!!!1!
/practicing PDS
carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Is oil up?
upinak on September 4, 2008 at 2:35 PM
“Berkley independent”
dead giveaway.
rihar on September 4, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Exit Answer: From one pessimist to another, the glass is always half empty.
rockhead on September 4, 2008 at 2:36 PM
c’mon, Allah… just One photoshop; for old times’ sake!
hindmost on September 4, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Best blogging on the net. Never leave us.
BadgerHawk on September 4, 2008 at 2:37 PM
No, unemployment is.
Think_b4_speaking on September 4, 2008 at 2:37 PM
You better get on board, Allah, or a pit bull with lipstick will be looking at you the same way she looks at a moose through her ’scope.
Religious_Zealot on September 4, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Nice catch ALLAH???
ExTex on September 4, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Which is why you should always be nice to the bartender.
Limerick on September 4, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Hey if Andi is right, maybe P-Diddy will get back on the merry-go-round and endorse her Yo?
sven10077 on September 4, 2008 at 2:38 PM
These people are not independents.
Joellen Gilchrist is the contact person for Detroit Code Pink. http://www.codepink4peace.org/groups.php
George Lentz and Jan Wheeler are community organizers out of the same Detroit area church. http://www.bucmi.org/Annual%20Report%202007.pdf pg 1,49,50
http://www.northwestuu.org/old_site/social_justice_network. htm
Ilene Beninson is another Code Pink activist. http://www.targetofopportunity.com/hunger_strike.htm
I posted all this this morning.
ExTex on September 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Just out of curiosity, what part of Alaska are you from?
BadgerHawk on September 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM
*Voice over*
“Barack Obama doesn’t support small town mayor’s…
*Text read with different voiceover*
“John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain’s commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush’s failed economic policies — that’s not the change we need, it’s just more of the same.”
*first voice*
“That’s not surprising, since he prefers to endorse Big City mayors”
*Cut to Obama endorsement of Kilpatrick*
*List Kilpatrick’s convictions and superimpose bars closing over his picture*
“Is this the judgment you want to Lead?”
Damiano on September 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Dude you’re hilarious
ballz2wallz on September 4, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Two of these women are code pink and 2 of the guys are community organizers and activists out of the same Detroit church.
I posted all this this morning with links.
And I emailed it to Hotair.
Nice Catch Allah??
ExTex on September 4, 2008 at 2:42 PM
So if Indpendents are 30% of voters, and she gets atleast 10% of them from one speech. Thats about what, 3 points atleast in overall poll?
jp on September 4, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Allahpundit:
Just imagine the EXCITEMENT of Pawlenty’s acceptance speech last night.
The tears of joy! The rousing lovefest! The millions in contributions!
TexasJew on September 4, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Yeah and I can introduce P-diddiot to a well educated alaskan black woman as well.
I live in Anchorage, but have lived all over the Valley as well. Palmer/Wasilla/Sutton etc.
upinak on September 4, 2008 at 2:43 PM
PRINT THAT BABY!!
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 4, 2008 at 2:44 PM
So if Indpendents are 30% of voters, and she gets atleast 10% of them from one speech. Thats about what, 3 points atleast in overall poll?
jp on September 4, 2008 at 2:42 PM
You get your GED!
TexasJew on September 4, 2008 at 2:45 PM
The Allah is even pumped. NICE!
D0WNT0WN on September 4, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Here’s the total poll story. WOOOHOO!
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http://www.mediacurves.com./pdf/Palin_RNC_Speech.pdf
marklmail on September 4, 2008 at 2:47 PM
108.00 -1.35
carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 2:48 PM
No. You didn’t read for comprehension. There’s meth-heads (allegedly) in Wasilla, but still no crack-heads.
Now, if Piper decides to open a crack lab or become a crack whore, then Diddly might endorse Sarracuda…….Yo.
/sarc
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 4, 2008 at 2:49 PM
I thought a 1 was “Utterly black abyss of despair” on the AP scale of optimism?
flipflop on September 4, 2008 at 2:49 PM
Allah I love your style don’t change a bit I don’t think we could handle it if you became a lil ray of sunshine and rainbows. I think I’m at a 7.75 can’t just go with the crowd and be a 7.5 lol
tee866 on September 4, 2008 at 2:49 PM
Yeah, you can see she’s all geared up to take on Nancy Pelosi for her House seat in the fall.
Why Sheehan isn’t weaving baskets at Happy Acres Funny Farm is something i just can’t figure out.
pilamaye on September 4, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Why do these boneheads use their real name?
Elizabetty on September 4, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Did you really just refer to yourself not only in the third person, but as “Big A?”
I’m going to assume Ed added that.
Professor Blather on September 4, 2008 at 2:53 PM
On your scale, my answer: 11.
7-11?
Namaste! Shubh Kaamnaayein!
Loxodonta on September 4, 2008 at 2:53 PM
So let me get this straight – Palin sells jet on eBay. eBay’s Meg Whitman is one of McCain’s big backers. Meg signals the bid price to buyers to kick down the bid,.
She and Palin split the difference. McCain comes in for a taste… Cindy McCain fakes a crash in Nevada to get the million-dollar insurance policy. OK, I made up the last part.
That scenario is certainly plausible enough for Wolf Blitzer and the gang!
If a 17 year old girl with no prior pregnancies having a Down’s Syndrome baby (a near-impossibility, biologically as well as statistically, as compared to a 43 year-old mother with at least four previous pregnancies having the child) could get them all excited – this would drive them mad!
TexasJew on September 4, 2008 at 2:56 PM
108.00 -1.35
carbon_footprint on September 4, 2008 at 2:48 PM
Boo-hoo (NOT sarcastically)
TexasJew on September 4, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Got to love Rush today…
tee866 on September 4, 2008 at 2:57 PM
That’s 0.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 4, 2008 at 2:58 PM
Grue, pass the potatoes.
I’m nervous about John’s speech…don’t burst my bubble, John! Please!
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 3:01 PM
Said like a true New Yorker.
Better yet TJ, how about the fact that Mitt’s speech last night was so stirring and totally roused the crowd. Just think, he could have been the one in Sarah’s place last night and that would have been good to bump AP’s mood to AT least a solid 10.
Sultry Beauty on September 4, 2008 at 3:01 PM
*Damiano’s email to the RNC Communications Director*
Also sending the same to the McCain camp.
;)
Damiano on September 4, 2008 at 3:01 PM
all of the towns listed were all in the Detroit area, too.
flyoverland on September 4, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Don’t rule out Biden being Egletoned eventually in favor of you-know-who. I’m at 5.5 on the Eeyore Scale of Doom.
Akzed on September 4, 2008 at 3:05 PM
less than 24 hours later and I already miss my favorite gloomy bastard! :)
That was a very nice speech, heck of a job really. I didn’t get to see Luntz and the meters, does anyone have links to video of that or was Luntz not on the meters? I didn’t see him on FNC yesterday at all actually..
Come to think of it the fox convention coverage has been jerky, not smooth. Why is the political team & hume bailing almost immediately after the speeches and going to west coast replay so quickly? H&C, all of it has been weaker than I hoped.
saus on September 4, 2008 at 3:05 PM
It’s just shows you how easy it is to fool a stupid bastard like Frank Luntz.
TexasJew on September 4, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Heh
maverick muse on September 4, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Scale of Doom.
Like it!
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 3:07 PM
I remember a cartoon show on ABC in the late 1960s called The Adventures of Gulliver, which was based on Jonathan Swift’s Gulliver’s Travels. And in the cartoon, there was a character named Glum whose response to every single idea or plan was a distinctively gloomy “It’ll never work!”
Allah is Glum.
See for yourself.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063863/
BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 3:08 PM
-applauds-
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 4, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Indeed, as Rudy said last night, “I hope Joe Biden got that promise in writing”–or something to that effect.
One of too many glorious Rudy lines.
BuckeyeSam on September 4, 2008 at 3:10 PM
7 may be pushing it a bit, Allah. We don’t want you to get too far out on a happy limb only to have you relapse into despair.
How about you go for a 5 or 6? That should be in your comfort range. If you’re still feeling good in a day or two, you can ramp it up a bit.
JudetheFossil on September 4, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Hehehe Nelson ratings just in 37 million people watched Gov.Palin’s speech last night
tee866 on September 4, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Speaking as a lifelong Independent*, I am now more favorably disposed to McCain/Palin. Are they perfect? No. But they are for spending less and less government. While The Obamassiah just wants more and more government.
*Voted libertarian in every presidential election eligible since 1984, except 2004. Couldn’t stand the head-on-the-sand approach by the Ls anymore.
rbj on September 4, 2008 at 3:14 PM
I looked for two days off and on for that character, Glum, and just found it this minute, and you posted it first. Revenge pending.
Akzed on September 4, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Wow, my little hometown has a Sheehan supporter!!! EWWW!! I knew when I read her name on the DFP forum this morning that she was suspect.
ConMom on September 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM
ConMom,
Call an exterminator!
HornetSting on September 4, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Don’t rule out Biden being Egletoned eventually in favor of you-know-who. I’m at 5.5 on the Eeyore Scale of Doom.
Akzed on September 4, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Here’s how it may “go down”, as they used to say on the “Mod Squad”:
Biden shows up at his home (aka Meet the Press) starts to loudly answer an obscure question about the Prime Minister of Upper Volta (hell – Sarah Palin didn’t even know who that guy was!) and suddenly he gets up, starts running around in circles and jabbering incoherently, then falls to the ground in a heap.
Suddenly, Hillary Clinton, being an expert in the health field, rushes in from the wings waving a
defibrillator and dramatically saves Biden’s life.
Obama, crying, calls in on speakerphone and says to the world, “Isn’t she great, everybody?” and puts her right on the ticket.
The entire Washington press corps agrees, their legs tingling.
Later, Biden is reelected Senator by the five corporate lawyers who make up the entire Delaware voting public.
TexasJew on September 4, 2008 at 3:21 PM
So some Independents = Leftist lunatics? I’m not surprised. Just google “independent news media” and see what pops up in the form of moonbattery. They give Independents a bad name and a foul aftertaste, and if I were head of that party, I’d cancel every single one of their memberships for life.
Then again, maybe they’re just independent of logic. Whoa, just blew my own mind. Oooooooooo!
bryan2369 on September 4, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Either Cindy is looking in the mirror in this photo or she’s finally grasped what a crappy candidate the Democrats nominated.
NoDonkey on September 4, 2008 at 3:22 PM
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