Awful: Peggy Noonan, Mike Murphy caught on open mike about Palin
posted at 5:16 pm on September 3, 2008 by Allahpundit
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I wonder how this little interstitial made its way from MSNBC to TPM. Oh well. Fox nailed Jesse Jackson talking about Obama this way, so turnabout’s fair play.
Simply awful, not only for Palin as a vote of no confidence (“it’s over”) ahead of the big speech from someone respected on the right but for Noonan herself as evidence that she lies to her readers. Remember, the column this morning that I stupidly praised was all about how compelling Palin’s narrative is and how dangerous it might prove to the left. See for yourself what she really thinks of the narrative approach. She also says, “Gut: The Sarah Palin choice is really going to work, or really not going to work.” You’ll see that nuance somewhat refined here too.
I’m sending you to Politico to watch it because it’s a little hard to decipher what’s being said and they have a transcript. Exit quotation from Noonan’s op-ed: “Palin’s friends should be less immediately worried about what the Obama campaign will do to her than what the McCain campaign will do.” Or what Republican pundits will do, I guess. Click the image to watch.
Update: Noonan updates at the Journal to say she was taken out of context.
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It didn’t sound to me like Noonan was knocking Palin. She simply said that Palin wasn’t the most “qualified” woman they could have picked. She never even said it was a bad pick, only that the republicans suck at the identity-politics, narrative-based crap (which they do).
DaveS on September 3, 2008 at 5:37 PM
I don’t really find it as shocking as everyone else. Peggy Noonan has been a good conservative, she recently ripped MSNBC for suck-upping to Obama. I think she was just being skeptical. She did call McCain’s pick a “hail mary” in her article. I don’t agree with her, but I don’t think it was that shocking.
poljunkie on September 3, 2008 at 5:37 PM
STFU. AP is on our side, dumbass.
Spirit of 1776 on September 3, 2008 at 5:37 PM
[Chakra Hammer on September 3, 2008 at 5:35 PM]
Bull. AP would talk rings around Noonan, most of which would be worth hearing.
Dusty on September 3, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Have to agree with what Jonah Goldberg wrote on the Corner – I listen to Charles Krauthammer – but he was wrong on this one.
I guess that is one difference between us and the Others – we do not blindly or unquestioningly follow anybody!
I think that is part of what makes Americans just that -Americans.
I mean God Almighty even challenges us to come and test Him, so I believe the phrase “With God we trush – everybody else – verify!”
kybowexar on September 3, 2008 at 5:37 PM
I am sure the editors of the Wall St. Journal (where she writes her column) are doing a head shaking “What the hell?”
And wondering what credibility she now has as a conservative-type writer for their publication.
Next column Noonan will tell all and admit she is a closet liberal and voting for Obama and loves the way Michelle dresses.
Noonan is not on the Republican side.
albill on September 3, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Agreed. Ironside better get his sh!t together real soon if he expects to have any credibility left as a conservative pundit.
ManlyRash on September 3, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Where’s the bus? I have a lying sack of sh*t speech writer I want to throw under it.
David in ATL on September 3, 2008 at 5:38 PM
I used to respect her. No more.
dentalque on September 3, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Like just about everything else, Debbie Schlussel was light years ahead of the curve. She has constantly pointed out what an absolute phony and fake “conservative” Peggy Noonan was. From Mar 24 of this year:
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/03/peggy_noonan_de.html
Gabe on September 3, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Allah’s a pessimist — not a liberal.
amerpundit on September 3, 2008 at 5:39 PM
AP, your earlier praise of Noonan’s column wasn’t stupid. Who could have imagined she would be this duplicitous?
Her credibility is gone. She wrote to mid-conservatives. Who’s her audience going to be now? If anyone does read her they’ll be wondering whether she’d actually stand by her words.
INC on September 3, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Like I posted earlier, I am pretty sure Rudy is the bus driver.
Elizabetty on September 3, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Peggy Noonan is no different than AllahPundit, Both are Liberals.
Two peas in a Liberal Pod.
Chakra Hammer on September 3, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Allahpundit–someone said when was this? Was this this morning after she wrote the article? Or was this a few days ago?
My first reaction was not all happy faced either. If this is close to day one and then she wrote what she wrote later… well her article does say she as well as others are mostly out of touch with middle America.
So the date of this is important. If it is today. I stand by my earlier post.
petunia on September 3, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Heh…not after 11 PM EST tonight.
ManlyRash on September 3, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Do you think if you keep posting this over and over somebody is going to give a damn?
Elizabetty on September 3, 2008 at 5:40 PM
We need to purge ourselves of these NYC/Beltway elitist bullshit artists. They are just as clueless and condescending as their Lefty counterparts. Up until recently Peggy was in love Obama. Perhaps she can now go back to where her heart is.
TheBigOldDog on September 3, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Shall we split the difference and agree that he’s “liberally pessimistic”?!
Citizen Duck on September 3, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Where do they live? The answer is, they aren’t CONSERVATIVE anymore. That’s the problem.
What are they good at when not conservative? Letting Democrats win elections.
kirkill on September 3, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Noonan probably thought it was over before the Palin pick. And that McCain picking her was cynical, not that Palin is. Or am I being too pessimistic?
Karl on September 3, 2008 at 5:40 PM
She’s a great writer! You people are going to toss her overboard for something that she said off-camera to an audience of three?
How many people in public life say things behind closed doors that they would never say in public? Rough guess: all of them. She’s not an elected official, so cut her some slack.
I’m more interested in how this piece of audio got out.
YYZ on September 3, 2008 at 5:40 PM
This is yet another reason why I find the Palin pick, and the subsequent reaction of those of the “Old Boys” network, to be so refreshing. It’s shaking things up, messing with business as usual and something that, to me as a conservative who has been severely disappointed with the Republican party, brings a new wind in all this. So despite the fact Palin is young the ideology she carries with her is as proven as Reagan. And as long as she holds strong to that this country’s mindset towards smaller government and stronger self-responsibility can continue to live another day.
That is what is most important to me in my support for her.
CTDeLude on September 3, 2008 at 5:40 PM
I used to love Peggy Noonan. I read her columns consistantly. Now, not so much. I quit reading her about two years ago. I read her column today because it was linked all over the blogosphere. For a moment I thought maybe she was finally worth reading again.
That moment has passed.
t.ferg on September 3, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Suddenly Peggy Noonan’s word means something to them! ;)
Jim Treacher on September 3, 2008 at 5:40 PM
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Yup, that piece was a good read and I, for one, was really feeling good. Now all of a sudden why does it feel like Sarah Palin, and the rest of us low class conservative types have this big proverbial knife in our backs? Hmmmmm?
martywd on September 3, 2008 at 5:41 PM
I’m not sure I can recall personally losing to much faith in someone so quickly.
In a single day, I went from being rather more impressed with Noonan than usual – to having her be utterly dead to me.
Professor Blather on September 3, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Allow me to re-post from earlier today …..
Noonan joins the MSNBC hacks. A perfect fit!
fogw on September 3, 2008 at 5:41 PM
I’m voting for McCain now that he picked Palin. I was going to stay home or vote Libertarian but the Palin pick energized me.
Metro on September 3, 2008 at 5:41 PM
[Citizen Duck on September 3, 2008 at 5:35 PM]
Thanks CD. I can see why he’s a former one.
Dusty on September 3, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Just like Eeyore. That’s so spot on, thanks Ace.
kirkill on September 3, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Peggy Noonan and Mike Murphy’s OPINIONS are going to hurt McCain? I think not.
Elizabetty on September 3, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Noonan and Krauthammer are both very intelligent and knowledgeable. Sometimes the truth hurts, folks. Palin was a WAY OUT THERE PICK FOR VP!
Shelby on September 3, 2008 at 5:42 PM
How obnoxious. I’ve been done with Noonan for a good while now.
CP on September 3, 2008 at 5:42 PM
I’m unclear as to what Noonan meant when she said “It’s not going to work.”
The selection? Or the sale/narrative that they’ll use for Palin to introduce her to the public?
Yes, better spinning through ignorance.
SteveMG on September 3, 2008 at 5:42 PM
The biggest thing we can hold to a writer in their honest commentary to the nation at large is that they are indeed honest. This shows she’s anything but as she was positive in a column about Palin then privately saying “it’s over.” That’s inconsistency and entirely removes any reason to read, and believe, whatever she says from here on out.
CTDeLude on September 3, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Damage control, pronto, Ms. Noonan. You seem to like to talk.
Marcus on September 3, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Nobody plays the victim card like the right…and the press has finally figured that out.
They are just gonna laugh at your tantrums from here on out.
alphie on September 3, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Noonan is the new John McCain, a parasite on the movement really.
jp on September 3, 2008 at 5:42 PM
So, now we know that Peggy Noonan is more of an elitist than a conservative. That’s good to know.
Loxodonta on September 3, 2008 at 5:43 PM
The cynicism is not McCain’s – it is theirs. Ostensibly working for a cause, a company, a party, and then privately trashing it??? That’s dishonest and low-life.
These three had better start looking for new jobs; and we’re all going to prove them wrong on November 4th. Go McCain/Palin!!!
MochaLite on September 3, 2008 at 5:43 PM
I never liked Peggy Noonan and her phony sighs on camera. She is as much a Republican as David Gergen.
Hilts on September 3, 2008 at 5:43 PM
And the Country Club Blue-bloods, ring in the good times with……..pessimism.
Good job Noonan, you old hag. Palin took your limelight and you get all bitter about it?
How does a candidate lose before she ever gets started?
This is why Republicans lost in 2006. Complacency and pessimism.
Either shut up and move forward, or get off the train Noonan. Pessimism is not inspirational, nor is it what people are attracted to.
TheHat on September 3, 2008 at 5:43 PM
I haven’t liked Noonan since she went all ga-ga for Obama.
That last remark about BHO had so much “class” to not let his campaign staff speak ill about Palin’s daughter was instructive. What a dimwit!
Obama’s staff and operatives and MSM sycophants have been pushing that story as hard as they could. He just wanted his fingerprints off of it.
Where the hell do Noonan think all those well-financed websites and whisper campaigns came from?
Goodbye, and good riddance..
TexasJew on September 3, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Noonan’s long had a way with words… but ideas? Not so much.
Here’s what cooks her in my stew pot, though … as a conservative member of the MSM until recently. Why the Zeus is she sitting on that parody of a news network, that fraudulent and flatulent tool thats either shamelessly shoveling money from the Soros crowd into its pockets or so devoid of a raison d’etre that it latches on to the lunatic fringe of the left?
I appeared on CNN a few times and invariably left wishing I could have taken a bath. You don’t contribute to a bunch of unabashed hacks like the MSNBC crewe UNLESS you lean that way to begin with. I don’t care how much they pay you.
She’s a soul-less hack unless she somehow miraculously explains here double-edged hypocrisy.
eucher on September 3, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Elitists Talk and say things “can’t be done” while real leaders get things done.
Exit question: from what party are the “Gulf Rim” governors and what are they all doing right now?
baldilocks on September 3, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Noonan sucks. She thinks way to much of herself. I never found her or her writing remotely interesting at all. Purge.
echosyst on September 3, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Does this mean pundits will give voice to opinion they don’t share because they believe their audience will love them for saying it?
Does this mean pundits will say, and write, things that can be interpreted in different ways depending on one’s belief or perspective?
What’s the difference between punditry and astrology?
rockhauler on September 3, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Piss off you little douche bag troll.
Hilts on September 3, 2008 at 5:44 PM
She’s a two-faced little snake who makes money pretending to understand non-Beltway concerns while actually yukking it up with her left buddies.
someone on September 3, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Their opinions will hurt McCain if they get a lot of airtime, since they will be introduced as McCain supporters.
lodge on September 3, 2008 at 5:44 PM
1. AP, you do need to either stop with the liberal equivalencies.
2. Noonan will be enjoying her new job saying, “Do you want fries with that?”
3. Remember what our resident defeatist AP linked to about Palin: A “hockey mom” differs from a grizzley in that she wears lipstick. Obviously Palin has to be a bit reserved, but may we hope and pray for a nice zinger against “detractors”. In other words, may she tell Noonan to F-off. (Dang, I wish censorship wasn’t in place here.)
Tommygun on September 3, 2008 at 5:44 PM
This declassifies Palin as a worthless liar and commentator. She is a hack for Obama.
MSNBC also purposely left the audio on air.
Regardless these two trolls are the ultimate jerks in our republican party.
Murphy is a liberal republican failure as well as Noonan. I am restraining myself from using all kinds of cursing that Noonan has not used in that video.
jencab on September 3, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Time to pull the plug on old Noonan. She should be done in the business for this.
Seixon on September 3, 2008 at 5:44 PM
There was some lefty movie a few years ago with Jeff Bridges that depicted a female vice-presidential candidate. In the quite lame movie some Republican (played by Gary Oldman) supposedly had a home-made porno movie of the prospective candidate. Eventually she weather’s the storm, they get elected anyway without her responding to the tape. In this case the woman was obviously a Democrat and the baddies were Republican but they preached about privacy and how women always have to take a few on the chin in public life.
Now we have the exact opposite reaction by the left. Is this life imitating art?
JonPrichard on September 3, 2008 at 5:44 PM
It wasn’t Ace.
Reading is fundamental. Try it sometime.
Elizabetty on September 3, 2008 at 5:45 PM
This just makes me look forward to two things:
1. Noonan’s next column, and
2. Sarah’s speech this evening
GIVE ‘EM HELL, SARAH!
Citizen Duck on September 3, 2008 at 5:45 PM
This is going to be rammed down our throats, too.
Nice going, guys. Like we don’t have enough to put up with.
capitalist piglet on September 3, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Nobody knows who Peggy Noonan is outside political junkies. Jesse Jackson ran for President.
Vizzini on September 3, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Et tu Noonta?
Tav on September 3, 2008 at 5:45 PM
I havent cared for Noonan for a few years now. She thinks much more of herself than I think of her. She changes positions often without acknolwedging the change…a sign of disingenuousness (sp?).
Anyway, unfortunatly, what they said is the truth. Palin was a horrid choice and will seal the deal for Obama. Blame McCain. What a dumb choice….what a ghastly republican nominee.
Roger Waters on September 3, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Am I supposed to care what Peggy Noonan says? Do you really think many of the undecided voters out there even know who she is or care about what she says? This is more fodder for the liberals to make them feel better about themselves, but it doesn’t mean jack shit as far as the election goes.
eyedoc on September 3, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Can’t be any more clear.
Spirit of 1776 on September 3, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Boy this is getting bad, a merciless upheaval beckons.
Earlg on September 3, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Just like community activist and one year in the Senate before running for President, B. Hussein Obama.
Hilts on September 3, 2008 at 5:46 PM
You weren’t stupid, it was a praiseworthy column. That sting we’re all feeling marks the depth of Noonan’s betrayal of our confidence.
LimeyGeek on September 3, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Noonan already dissed Palin once. That’s why I was so surprised when she wrote that article today which you linked to. I hope she get snubbed at the swearing in, the ball, and never hired to write another speech again.
Blake on September 3, 2008 at 5:47 PM
You mean Peggy is a two-faced lying bullshit artists? I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you! At least now she can hold her head high at her luncheons and cocktail parties in Manhattan.
TheBigOldDog on September 3, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Noonan is no different than any of the rest of that gaggle . . . she goes where the money leads her.
rplat on September 3, 2008 at 5:47 PM
More of the same…
Says Nora O’Donnell, mother of 1 1/2 year old twins and a 1 month old while she broadcast all week from MN and her husband owns 3 restaurants around their home in NY.
TH is on this one here:
http://townhall.com/blog/g/a197d5bb-d5b1-4184-9521-ef755573a1de
Damiano on September 3, 2008 at 5:48 PM
I like to read some of Noonan’s columns on the wsj, but for crying out loud Peg, close ranks. Give McCaina and Sarah a fair chance.
She was a late-comer to Catholicism, and I’m sure it was the touchy-feely variety, not the even if I get crusified for my Faith variety.
She is SO gonna have to earn my respect back after this.
It’s because she is so elitist like our MSM pals, and SSSSOOOOO WRONG on this one. She like others are gonna eat their words like the ones on the left.
Anybody get the latest from George Will?
Sapwolf on September 3, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Chakra Hammer,
I wouldn’t make that comparison. We haven’t seen AP be duplicitous.
The big problem is giving one impression with your words in one format and then turning around the same day and revealing that the impression you crafted really wasn’t your true thinking.
She is a Bubblehead. And she just popped.
INC on September 3, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Tempest… meet teacup.
Always Right on September 3, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Some lefty is already calling Medved with this.
capitalist piglet on September 3, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Wow. I never knew Peggy Noonan was so two faced.
SoulGlo on September 3, 2008 at 5:48 PM
I would suggest that when Peggy, in her WSJ article, stated that Palin was a threat to the Left, Peg avoided saying which side she herself was with in this election.
If you plug that in, you can read the rest of the article and it makes sense.
BigD on September 3, 2008 at 5:48 PM
He sure had a love affair with Hillary for some reason..
Where is the same, toughness for a conservative?
Chakra Hammer on September 3, 2008 at 5:49 PM
I saw that lame movie. Actually in real life Gary Oldman is something of a conservative and he said the film was totally biased bull shit.
Hilts on September 3, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Did anyone check out WSJ’s Frum on Laura Ingraham this morning?
He is a “big government” conservative [sic] and as elitist as they come.
In his most recent book (which I have made a point of never reading), he argued that the Republicans should become more like…. the Democrats! Yes, that’s the ticket – one big nebulous party of government apparatchiks!
How about we all join the Young Pioneers, wear red scarves and pray to Uncle Joe?
What a clueless little bastard…
TexasJew on September 3, 2008 at 5:49 PM
I’ve just read her statement’s again and I agree with this part…
For the most part I think expressing an opinion about the confidence of Team McCain to pull it off. I agree with her on that, but disagree with hating “narratives”. She should go read some Alasdair Macintyre…
ninjapirate on September 3, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Is the MSM replaying this yet?
lodge on September 3, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Sounds like its time for the WSJ to recall Knucklehead Noonan and replace her with someone a little more objective.
Even better, WSJ: fire the assclown.
pilamaye on September 3, 2008 at 5:50 PM
If these people are so much smarter than everyone else, why to they keep getting caught saying stuff off camera?
ctmom on September 3, 2008 at 5:52 PM
The wife and I used to be enthralled by Noonan, but for the last couple of years something in her attitude has changed. It’s not something I could put my finger on but I ceased being enthralled by her several months ago.
29Victor on September 3, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Whatsa matter Piggy? Somebody taking the little bit of spot light you have left? MORONS.
bloggless on September 3, 2008 at 5:52 PM
To which narrative bullsh*t is Nonnan referring? The only narrative I’ve seen has been written by MSNBC. Palin’s speech is tonight (translation for liberals: that means it hasn’t happened yet).
Ronnie on September 3, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Palin is not a worthless liar and commentator. And she certainly isn’t a hack for Obama. Where are you getting this??
NorthernCross on September 3, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Hey, go fsck yourself. AP is lots of things, not the least of which being one of the best analysts I’ve ever read, on par with anyone in the NY/DC axis and better than nearly all of them, but he’s not a lefty. He’s a powerful asset to conservatives, whether he’s agreeing or disagree with them, because he’s honest, thorough and viscerally direct in his commentary. He’s a newspaperman in a world of preening journalists.
We’ve all got our problems with what AP says, for one reason or another, but I think it’s fair to say that we all, those of us who give a shite about the reality on the ground anyway, appreciate the fact that he has no bones with saying what he thinks.
spmat on September 3, 2008 at 5:53 PM
What the hell does Noonan think Obama IS!
He’s a big sob story wrapped up in tissue paper..
TexasJew on September 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM
TWWWWEEEEET! Five yard penalty for introducing facts not in evidence.
Speaking for me and my position on the right but it’s been a couple years since I had any respect for Noonan. Her post 9/11/01 column brought tears to my eyes but she has become increasingly shrill and liberal over the years. I guess she’s sold out to the Bill Kristol/ McCain/ Allahpundit crowd of elitist liberal “Republicans” who hate people like me because I say what I mean and stick to more core values of traditional conservativism instead of reveling in the political strategy, compromise, and getting along with liberals nature that is the cancer on the GOP.
Noonan has not been a conservative voice for some time and only fellow travelers down McCain’s brand of conservatism are blind to that fact. The right doesn’t respect her much anymore despite her wonderful gift with writing powerful columns and her connection to Reagan. McCain abandoned any association with Reagan Republicans the minute he slithered to the top of the heap and got the nomination. One example- Liberman praised McCain for abridging Constitutional rights in the name of CFR and for plotting with Kennedy to force a second round of amnesty on the nation (which Reagan aadmitted didn’t turn out as he would have hoped). McCain is no conservative and Noonan is no longer the voice of the movement she once was.
highhopes on September 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM
AP is either a liberal or a NY rube, even the NY rube doesn’t fit since he bashes Rudy every chance he gets…
Chakra Hammer on September 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Noonan is a bitch. Much like Jessee Jackson on the democratic side she is afraid of a powerful person in her mold sweeping up all the power as a female conservative.
That loser deserves to get exposed for the trash she is just for going on MSNBC in the first place, nevermind what she said.
Trash.
eski502 on September 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM
New bulletin! Rush Limbaugh is a liberal!
Spirit of 1776 on September 3, 2008 at 5:55 PM
As an aside, I don’t care if Kay Bailey Hutchinson was looking uncomfortable or down, she’s another tired D.C. face (although I’m sure the MSM would have been happy with her. We don’t need four senators on the ballots!!!!
And who is down, BTW? Have they only been talking with other Bubbleheads?
INC on September 3, 2008 at 5:56 PM
No doubt…especially if there is any truth to the N. Enquirer’s story that Palin has had an affair. OMG! They were right about John Edwards…we’ll see…things could get very interesting!
Could you imagine–two cheaters, the Pres and VP nominees, a man and a woman–on the same ticket?!
This is the craziest election of my life!
Shelby on September 3, 2008 at 5:57 PM
That’s the key. Be who you are, say what you think, but don’t be two-or-triple faced.
INC on September 3, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Funny that you are calling other people liberals. Liberals sit around and complain and complain while never adding anything to society.
That is exactly what you are doing here.
Elizabetty on September 3, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Okay, I’ve about had it. You whiny pieces of shit who sit on your keyboards and blame the main people who run this fine blog are more worthless than trolls like alphie. Trolls like him provide entertainment because they are like punching bags. You can hit them over and over easily, and they come back for more. You, on the other hand, are providing nothing but bitching.
Some of you that have been crying your eyes out over AP’s and Ed’s analyses have been here a while, but it appears that most of you are newly registered. This happens when they open registration: sewage floats in with the floodwaters. That’s fine. Some of you have been and will not be back, and you won’t be missed. For those of you who have been reading this same man’s writing for years, as we have, seem to think that recently a brain transplant has occurred. It hasn’t.
AP is hard on the candidates that we go bananas for, like Fred and Sarah. It’s good sense to do so. That sentiment, and that sentiment alone, is what is driving the Obama campaign. We have to take a hard look at Sarah Palin and John McCain to make sure that we learn everything we can before the left dishes it out to us. He’s been hard on McCain for quite a while now, and rightly so. Now he’s being hard on Palin, and I think a great deal of scorn is coming by virtue of the fact that she’s giving you the pleasure of voting for a conservative republican ticket this November. That was something few of us expected, and I’m grateful for it. For some of you, frankly, I think it’s because she’s a cute chick, and you don’t want Biff Tannen hassling her. For the latter, grow the hell up, you’re embarrassing us. For the former, you have to realize that just because the ticket is now conservative does not mean it’s won. Lots of things can happen, and the way the information flows can be critical to how they play out. Imagine if the ugly rumors about Trig had not gotten out. It would not have been so easy to play down her daughter’s pregnancy. The flow of information with the right timing made that happen.
The bottom line is this: Ed and Allah are pundits. They give their observations about the state of political situations, based on their beliefs and views. However, Ed and Allah are exceptional pundits. They try to be as objective as possible, and never shy from allowing all commenters to have their viewpoints, which places them a cut above places like Freep and RedState. If you don’t like what they have to say, leave. Calling them liberals or downers or “pussies” is the equivalent of whiny Kos kids, and it needs to stop. You’re fouling the site with your complaining and bitching, especially when it’s about the fact that they are linking to news. If you’re so afraid of what is actually happening, go to sites where they hide events they don’t like. The rest of us will face the truth about the good and the bad, and deal with it.
In a nutshell, if you’re going to do nothing but moan like a girl with a skinned knee, go make your own f***ing blog and do it.
MadisonConservative on September 3, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Michael Murphy is the Republican Susan Estrich he is more known for the campaigns he lost then he has ever won now he is a TV toad making a buck trying to pass himself off as knowledgeable.
Peggy Noonan is (was) attractive who has always been known as a self promoting opportunist. She took credit for speeches that she was not even the lead on them. She took credit for many things that were not hers but she always had this disarming charm where she could get by with it.
When she left Reagan’s White House there were no tears.
Jdripper on September 3, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Money and face time, plus she’s been part of the system for so long it’s all a game for them.
I will note however, that Noonan is right that Palin is not the most qualified from an experience standpoint, but she makes that up with capability, performance, and principles that haven’t been hacked to pieces by years in the system. That, to me is worth so much more than having someone who has more experience but has sold their souls to the system.
Oh yeah, Sarah has the ability to inspire to a winning ticket degree, something all the others didn’t. That’s just as important as experience. Noonan’s job was to give 90% of that to others through speeches.
Dusty on September 3, 2008 at 5:58 PM
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