Awful: Peggy Noonan, Mike Murphy caught on open mike about Palin
posted at 5:16 pm on September 3, 2008 by Allahpundit
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I wonder how this little interstitial made its way from MSNBC to TPM. Oh well. Fox nailed Jesse Jackson talking about Obama this way, so turnabout’s fair play.
Simply awful, not only for Palin as a vote of no confidence (“it’s over”) ahead of the big speech from someone respected on the right but for Noonan herself as evidence that she lies to her readers. Remember, the column this morning that I stupidly praised was all about how compelling Palin’s narrative is and how dangerous it might prove to the left. See for yourself what she really thinks of the narrative approach. She also says, “Gut: The Sarah Palin choice is really going to work, or really not going to work.” You’ll see that nuance somewhat refined here too.
I’m sending you to Politico to watch it because it’s a little hard to decipher what’s being said and they have a transcript. Exit quotation from Noonan’s op-ed: “Palin’s friends should be less immediately worried about what the Obama campaign will do to her than what the McCain campaign will do.” Or what Republican pundits will do, I guess. Click the image to watch.
Update: Noonan updates at the Journal to say she was taken out of context.
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Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
Citizen Duck on September 3, 2008 at 5:19 PM
You mean Peggy Noonan lies? Really? I’m shocked.
Grow Fins on September 3, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Peggy Noonan is a part of the Washington Establishment who wants things their way.
Palin will force her to shut the hell up and sit the hell down.
Sakaki on September 3, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Noonan’s stock is on the way down.
Maquis on September 3, 2008 at 5:20 PM
On her meds…off her meds…on her meds…off her meds..
Brat on September 3, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Just two more beltway biggots.
BrianA on September 3, 2008 at 5:20 PM
i can’t do it
stlpatriot on September 3, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Pardon me for not being part of the Pundit class, but Sarah Palin is the real deal to us plebs, to use the media term.
Do they really think we’re that stupid?
baxtrice on September 3, 2008 at 5:21 PM
That’s gonna hurt. Noonan.
DerKrieger on September 3, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Noonan’s jealous. Sorry babe, but a better woman is going to upstage you. Why not go cry with Maureen Dowd over a cappucino?
MadisonConservative on September 3, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Hilarious.
bj1126 on September 3, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Me neither.
Argh.
tree hugging sister on September 3, 2008 at 5:21 PM
You sure got some weird control issues, Sak.
alphie on September 3, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Wow … I’m not sure what it does to the campaign, but “it’s over” definitely applies to Noonan’s credibility when this is contrasted with what she wrote this morning.
thirteen28 on September 3, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Elitist..
And thats the Main Stream Media, supposed Republicans that are actually from “Blue States!”
Chakra Hammer on September 3, 2008 at 5:22 PM
I guess there’s a good reason why Peggy isn’t writing speeches for our candidates any more. Whew!
CliffHanger on September 3, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Geez.
You think they might take Giuliani’s advice and give her a chance. They don’t know Palin, for pete’s sake.
Why is it everyone thinks they this woman better than the people who elected her?
And…….I think Murphy and Noonan will find that the carpet got worn out and is not there for them any longer this cycle.
Save for PMSNBC.
drjohn on September 3, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Good-bye Peggy. Phony. Liar. The worst kind of hypocrite. Join in the party across the street – they will welcome you there.
Fuquay Steve on September 3, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Sheesh. She might as well be sent off to pundit Siberia. Bye-bye.
SWLiP on September 3, 2008 at 5:23 PM
And ….. my prediction proved correct! All in less than six hours or so.
BigD on September 3, 2008 at 5:23 PM
and now National Enquirer is claiming Palin had an affair
jp on September 3, 2008 at 5:23 PM
The buzzard is two-faced…
JammieWearingFool on September 3, 2008 at 5:23 PM
What a phony. At least the guys at NRO had the honesty to come out with their criticisms.
lodge on September 3, 2008 at 5:23 PM
In Peggy Noonan’s mind she is more qualified than Governor Palin.
That is the Narcissism of the Beltway crowd. DC was initially only occupied by the politicos for about a season and a ahalf. Boy aren’t we the better off.
Palin made the “mistake” of not making it to the DC cocktail circuit and galdhanding the newsies.
The talking heads were in the tank for Kerry, they were in the tank for Gore, they are in the tank for Obama.
Let’s flush the tank after we make them look foolish again.
sven10077 on September 3, 2008 at 5:23 PM
*sigh*
That actually hurts, Peggy. Say goodbye to your place in the conservative pantheon. Or, perhaps more accurately, welcome to your retirement.
spmat on September 3, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Cross-posting:
1. What Noonan says is not inconsistent with what she wrote. She can think that Palin was not the best pick and that the MSM has been hideous to her family. Plus, it’s not like you’re going to pick a fight with lefty Chuck Todd and disgruntled Mike Murphy while you’re stuck on-set.
2. That being said, I like open mikes. In particular, Noonan — for all of her decription of the Bubble today — has shown herself just as capable of being in it as her colleagues. To quote a classier lady, “Boo. Frickin’. Hoo.”
Plus:
3. Noonan started by calling the Palin pick a “Hail Mary pass,” which is again not inconsistent with her live mic comment. And her views of Palin can be separated to a large degree to her opinion of the reason Camp McCain picked her.
Karl on September 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Really? Game over? Hmmm…
NorthernCross on September 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM
That will leave a mark.
Fuquay Steve on September 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Noonan’s jealous. Sorry babe, but a better woman is going to upstage you. Why not go cry with Maureen Dowd over a cappucino?
MadisonConservative on September 3, 2008 at 5:21 PM
—–
Take Helen Thomas with. She looks like she could use some cheering up, or at least a good caffeine buzz.
Mew
acat on September 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Foxtrot Mike!
drjohn on September 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Noonan wasn’t invited to be a speech writer for Bush I or Bush II, nor McCain. She was a protege of Buchanan in the Reagan Administration. As a DC insider, frankly, she is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Will this hurt Palin? No. Will it hurt Noonan? Noonan who?
coldwarrior on September 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM
No Doubt! Ronald Reagan didn’t win Washington D.C!
We want to take Washington D.C. by the throat and KILL IT!
Chakra Hammer on September 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM
The only people that read Peggy Noonan already know who they are voting for and why.
Noonan is simply an Eeore anyways.
Wait until after tonight’s speech to see if Noonan suddenly finds her “doubts” turned around.
For me, I have always like Palin. A governor with 80% approval rating and people are acting like she is not qualified.
They only say that because they never heard of her and don’t want to feel stupid.
dKap on September 3, 2008 at 5:25 PM
“Blue Swing State Governor World”, do these people make up stupid phrases? Do they think it makes them sound intellegent? No wonder that have to cover the news, instead of making it. In answer to Peggy Noonan’s question, “Is she most qualified?”. My answer and a whole lot of other peoples is “Yes”. By the way Peggy, I can get through a whole paragraph with out swearing.
Tommy_G on September 3, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Washington D.C. is skared as HELL!
Chakra Hammer on September 3, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Welp, this just gives Palin two more people to blow away tonight.
nickj116 on September 3, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Noonan says flatly the the Election is Over because of the palin pick. It contradicts her article this morning. and is a stupid claim on top of that.
she lost her mind awhile ago with bush anyway
jp on September 3, 2008 at 5:25 PM
I haven’t liked Noonan for the longest time. I began to notice that she’s always wrong.
Kenrod on September 3, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Is Peggy interviewing for msnbc job?
Fuquay Steve on September 3, 2008 at 5:25 PM
You know, MSNBC has a habit of leaving mikes open. Think it’s intentional?
CliffHanger on September 3, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Peggy
“See that glow flashing in the corner
of your eye? That’s your career
dissipation light. And it just went
into high gear.”
Line from Backdraft
JackS on September 3, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Wow, I never figured her for a hack, even WITH the appearances on MSNBC.
Makes you wonder if the whole thing isn’t one piece of rancid theater.
SlimyBill on September 3, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Business as usual, I question the timing.
serenity on September 3, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Wow what a way to terminate her career as a speechwriter and columnist.
elduende on September 3, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Just the fact that she’s on MSNBC is enough to not take her seriously anymore. I admire Bill Bennett for being on CNN, though, because he stands up against the liberal bias.
Brat on September 3, 2008 at 5:27 PM
I used to be a Noonan fan. Remember when we found out that O.J. slaughtered two people? That, he ain’t who I though he was, feeling.
This kinda feels the same.
pugwriter on September 3, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Peggy has been having a few bouts of lucidity during her decline of the last few years.
This puts an end to the current bout.
Elizabetty on September 3, 2008 at 5:27 PM
That’s what hurts the most…
ninjapirate on September 3, 2008 at 5:28 PM
It surely is, to the extent that she’s claiming the pass has fallen dead and the game is over. Also, like I say, she seemed very high on the power of Palin’s narrative to disarm the left in her op-ed. Now, suddenly, it’s cynical “bullsh*t.” Seems a bit inconsistent.
Allahpundit on September 3, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Nice going Nooner; now you have nobody that respects you.
Captain Hate on September 3, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Thank God Mike Murphy is no longer part of the McCain campaign. Douchebag.
He and Pegs have pissed off the base which will, in turn, fire up the base even more. Thank you very much, idiots!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 3, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Peggy has not been on the team for quite awhile. So is this what it feels like to be pander to?
Cindy Munford on September 3, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Red/Blue an elitist is an elitist. No matter what normal Americans do they will look down their noses at us. WTF is it with journalists and lawyers that become politicians that makes them so damn condescending to everyone else?
DerKrieger on September 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM
When was this video shot? Is this the initial reaction and this morning’s column the reasoned, considered version?
cthulhu on September 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Elitist is getting thrown around a lot this year, but you know, if a word fits…then it does.
What is wrong with these people? I agree with Bernard Goldberg, these people should be forced to live in a semi-small city in the actual heartland of the US for a period of time. So they might get a feel for the actual country they live in.
Peggy Noonan – along with some other Republican Elit…no, how about snob? Yeah, snob it is! These folks need a lesson in how folks think “in country.”
We like Sarah because she’s an actual person. Not a empty suit (or pantsuit or even dress). She sounds like she not only knows what she is talking about, but means it!
I’d rather have someone who’s judgement I trust to make some hard, major decisions than someone I do not – but has all this experience!
kybowexar on September 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Thanks a damn lot Peggy! Talk about a narrative! You feeding MSNBC’s! Damnit woman, take a page of Rudy and give this girl a chance!
Insiders, bah!
Spirit of 1776 on September 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Buh-bye Peggy. Your career’s over.
someone on September 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Jeez, SlimyBill! That was poetry! Well done.
tree hugging sister on September 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Noonan is the only casualty from this. It is freakin’ Dawn of the Dead out there with respect to beltway “conservatives”.
Valiant on September 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM
And to Ms. Noonan, I’m afraid my feelings might best be summed up by a hearty “Alpha Mike Foxtrot.”
Citizen Duck on September 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM
If she thought that the Palin pick was bad, then why didn’t she say it in her column… Bueller? Bueller??
BTW, why the hell is Murphy so bitter?
Illinidiva on September 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM
This won’t go far.
It’s not as sexy as Jesse Jackson cutting a guys nuts off, (and doing the action to illustrate his point.)
cyclosarin on September 3, 2008 at 5:30 PM
cthulhu, that is an excellent question and point.
(Never thought I’d be in agreement with Cthulhu…or any other elder gods)
kybowexar on September 3, 2008 at 5:30 PM
I have been saying that Peggy is in it for Obama. She is sucked into Olbermann world on MSNBC. Her articles are crap to me. She is very much the snob that I detest.
jencab on September 3, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Now, does this mean Noonan doesn’t get one of those cool ass Christmas cards the White House sends out every year?
tree hugging sister on September 3, 2008 at 5:30 PM
When I first signed on to Hot Air and MM…. I once opined that I thought Noonan to be smarmy and elitist…… I was dressed down for it… Well, I stand my ground… she’s smarmy, elitist and a liar.
MNDavenotPC on September 3, 2008 at 5:30 PM
BTW I don’t care what “KAY” feels. Everyone else has rallied; and I think “KAY” was a bad pick. That would have been just a “narrative” pick.
Spirit of 1776 on September 3, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Noonan has been soft on Obama for a long time now…I really don’t know what happened to her – I used to admire her so much, and she seemed the farthest thing from a hack. She started getting weird around the time she bashed Bush’s SOTU speech a couple of years ago. She was just vicious about it, it seemed like she was jealous that he hadn’t usewd her as a speechwriter…….
Priscilla on September 3, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Noonan has finished her career but those comments will undoubtedly damage Palin as well.
lodge on September 3, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Is Noonan a liberal? Maybe she’s been secretly posting to Daily Kos all these years.
indythinker on September 3, 2008 at 5:31 PM
OH my heck!
Peggy! This is so two faced. I expect better of you! And not really all that accurate of analysis! Narrative? What did Reagan have? Narrative! Much of the Reagan Revolution was Narrative! And Peggy Noonan wrote the narrative! Policy yes, but…. Palin has the right policy. And Kay H. is pro-choice. That outweighs experience. And she is part and parcel of Washington insider!
Peggy I think you are guilty of the bubble you were speaking about. You know the one you all in Washington try to get out of but never really do?
I think you can save yourself some of your long worked on reputation but you’d better hurry and appologize!
Peggy Noonan=Bubblehead
petunia on September 3, 2008 at 5:31 PM
This all strikes me as an overreaction. It would be one thing if she called her some moth breathing hick or gave some declarative like “I’d like to cut her nuts off” or something…So what? The pick of an Washington outsider pisses off a bunch of clubby insiders? Bravo Foxtrot Delta.
I fail to see how anything Noonan wrote this morning clashes with what she said on video (I’ve not watched the vid, only read the transcript). I missed where Noonan exalted Palin as some sort of conservative messiah in her piece in the WSJ this morning only to turn around and simply claim she wasn’t the most qualified. 99.9% of the world is going to say “so what?” and move on to the next thing. Consider me one of them.
MMW on September 3, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Palin is extremely qualified to be any president’s VP. Plain isn’t running for President. And to the dismay of the democrats and some … *swear word* republicans that might think McCain is not going to last the next four years. Go *swear word* yourselves.
(Replace the generic ” *swear word* ” with what murphy and noonan said on the link.) And after the Jessee Jackson off mike’ comment. Why would any of these two idiots be this stoo-pid and say this. Wow.
wise_man on September 3, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Under the Straight Talk Express with them. It’s fine if they have those opinions, no need to lie. It’s them who lose credibility, not the ticket.
jtorres138 on September 3, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Umm…. unless Noonan said something about tearing out Palin’s gonads, it isn’t even in the same ballpark.
God, you’re such a downer, AP.
Pull a Charlie and get back to us when you’re done huffin’
VolMagic on September 3, 2008 at 5:31 PM
I had stopped reading Noonan a while back. After her appearance on MSNBC last week where she broke up the anchors about poor mothers whose “feet were going to explode” I was ready to give her another go. Alas, she is now “one of them.” sigh.
Mallard T. Drake on September 3, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Years from now everyone will know who Sarah Palin is.
Peggy Noonan will be a footnote and nobody will have every heard of Murphy.
These two may as well leave St. Paul now.
JammieWearingFool on September 3, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Exactly!
kybowexar on September 3, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Now now… I’m sure you’ve done a LOT of things stupidly.
I’m still voting for her, tho’.
Spanglemaker on September 3, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Valiant on September 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Agreed. Add Krauthammer to that list, as much as that pains me.
elduende on September 3, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Thank goodness these two mercenaries do not currently work for anybody in the party.
I wonder if we can get Rudy to toss these two under the bus.
Elizabetty on September 3, 2008 at 5:32 PM
A butt-kisser will always out. Maybe she can catch on with Obama.
flyoverland on September 3, 2008 at 5:32 PM
I’ve never been more than a mild fan of hers, so I’m not personally bothered by her comment, but it is way too telling. I never wanted to know she felt that way.
Now she knows what the new media is all about though. Integrity actually means something. If you said it in public, the public will probably eventually hear about it. No more of this two-faced journalism.
Esthier on September 3, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Mike Murphy has been pissed at the McCain campaign for weeks, obviously because he wanted to work on it and was frozen out. He even said the “Celebrity” ad (the one with Paris Hilton) was no good. He would never say a good word about the McCain campaign’s tactics. That’s why he’s on MSNBC.
As for Noonan – she’s a skilled writer, but the consummate country club GOPer.
sauropod on September 3, 2008 at 5:33 PM
I’m with grow fins…I can’t believe Noonan would have a different take off-camera! Her affectation makes me reach for the bucket–it always has.
Christine on September 3, 2008 at 5:33 PM
[Maquis on September 3, 2008 at 5:20 PM]
It was never up with me. Give me a party moron, ’cause I’ll have a shorter wait to hear something interesting and clever.
Dusty on September 3, 2008 at 5:33 PM
This assumes that any actual people give a rat’s-a*s about what either Murphy or Noonan think.
johnsteele on September 3, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Why anybody ever agrees to do one of these shows after one of these open mic things comes out I will never understand. This sort of thing should be the kiss-of-death for any program, because nobody will be willing to be a guest when they have treated other guests so shabbily.
But I guess the narcissitic need for the chattering class to get themselves in front of a camera is so great they are willing to overlook such things.
gridlock2 on September 3, 2008 at 5:34 PM
These Beltway Republicans are pissing me off almost as much as the Dems and the media.
It's Vintage, Duh on September 3, 2008 at 5:34 PM
I haven’t enjoyed her writing for a long time now, and I always did find her material rather drenched in syrup – my feelings have been confirmed.
capitalist piglet on September 3, 2008 at 5:34 PM
By the way, who is Mike Murphy?
Dusty on September 3, 2008 at 5:34 PM
True we are listing to two Media Pundits is it like we dont think they play politics all the time ?
Pundits always believe they are smarter than everyone else
William Amos on September 3, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Peggy Noonan is no different than AllahPundit, Both are Liberals.
Chakra Hammer on September 3, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Did Chuck Todd do that on purpose?
Elizabetty on September 3, 2008 at 5:35 PM
A (now former) Republican strategist.
Citizen Duck on September 3, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Fair play? Not quite. The Jackson comment has been sucked down the Memory Hole. For the next two months the Drive-Bys will be playing this little gem over and over and over and over.
The net positive? The career of preening, pompous gasbag Peggy Noonan is history.
ManlyRash on September 3, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Noonan’s quote is already featured on her Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_Noonan#Quotations
POH on September 3, 2008 at 5:36 PM
crap
kirkill on September 3, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Noonan doesn’t get it because this pick is not designed to appeal to Noonan, or any of her close friends. This pick is designed to appeal to the 99.9% of the country that has never been to a smart Inside-DC coctail party, and wouldn’t want to go even if they were invited.
Sarah Palin is the real deal. These morons have been dealing with fake imposters for so long, they cannot ever see this simple truth.
gridlock2 on September 3, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Gonna hurt McCain more
Vashta.Nerada on September 3, 2008 at 5:36 PM
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