Video: “How can a woman run a state and bring up … five children at the same time?”
posted at 2:25 pm on September 2, 2008 by Allahpundit
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This should go a long way towards redeeming Trotta on the left for once joking about Obama being assassinated. They’re arguing at cross-purposes here: Kelly’s clearly right in principle that the argument’s sexist but Trotta’s point is that whether it is or not, some voters are going to be persuaded by it and act accordingly. Probably true, but is she sure they’re conservatives? As Goldstein notes, the “new feminism” takes a dim view of Republican women straying too far from the nursery.
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Liz Trotta is not a crazy liberal, she is generally conservative. She is also often prescient and correct long before anyone else. I think some folks are whistling past the graveyard if they think this won’t bite. I also agree with Baldilocks that the reporter was rude.
Vashta.Nerada on September 2, 2008 at 2:59 PM
When are the libtard media tools going to ask Biden to explain the fact he left his two injured mother-less boys in the hospital to pursue his career in the senate?
David in ATL on September 2, 2008 at 2:59 PM
Who said we’re supposed to be superwomen and do everything men do? That’s the feminist/Gloria Steinem position, which Megyn Kelly doesn’t seem to get.
As for two inches, you must be tall. I wear 3-4 inches. But no-one forced us. You can always wear “sensible shoes”.
Debbie Schlussel on September 2, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Don’t make me come over there!!!! :)
mjk on September 2, 2008 at 3:01 PM
Hey Mitt Romney had 5 kids. How come none of them got girls pregnant in high school?
o yeah…traditional values. sorry
Roger Waters on September 2, 2008 at 3:01 PM
Anybody here from Arkansas? Did the Left make any of these arguments when Senator Blanche Lincoln ran for Senate right after having twins? Did conservatives oppose her election solely because she had young children? (Hint: I know Sen. Lincoln personally and I know the answer to both questions.)
rockmom on September 2, 2008 at 3:01 PM
The fact is some men and women that age want kids. If they have made their own informed choice and are above the age of consent, until we hear from them we don’t know what happened.
pedestrian on September 2, 2008 at 3:01 PM
It was sarcasm directed at the “Can she raise kids and be a governor” schtick..sorry, I’m just a little jumpy today.
:)
baxtrice on September 2, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Nailed it!
How can the MSM be expected to do their jobs and raise 5 smears at the same time, if they have to travel every year to Wasilla, Alaska?
Loxodonta on September 2, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Hah. Tell that to the horrific diaper I had to change last night while my wife was at work.
Slublog on September 2, 2008 at 3:02 PM
http://globallabor.blogspot.com/2008/08/authoritarian-radicals-barack-obama.html
Saturday, August 30, 2008
The Authoritarian Radicals: Barack Obama, Bill Ayers and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge
anybody know how to send a tip to allah and ed? or malkin?
funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Hey, sweetheart, FYI – even those of us with traditional values (copyright – you) have sex. Even those of us with traditional values end up having sex at 17 because we’re stupid teenagers at that time.
I’m really sure that Romney’s kids are pure as newly driven snow and never ever ever ever ever had sex. Ever.
mjk on September 2, 2008 at 3:03 PM
I’m from LR and the answer, of course, is no.
DerKrieger on September 2, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Amen, again, except I don’t agree with Megyn Kelly at all on this. This is one of those many cases where she displays herself to be very blonde and just doesn’t get it. (And yes, I’m not really a blonde.)
Debbie Schlussel on September 2, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Because they are absolutely nothing!!
Sorry, had to be said.
1. Community organizer vs Mayor. >150 days in the Senate vs. Governor. Who’s the inexperienced one now?
2. Don’t we already have enough trolls? Before too long they’ll all be fighting over the table scraps maybe. Wonder if we can get enough of a crowd for that to charge admission.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 2, 2008 at 3:03 PM
IT IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE VALUE THAT WOMEN MUST STAY HOME AND TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN.
IT IS A CONSERVATIVE VALUE THAT CHILDREN REQUIRE TWO PARENTS OF THE OPPOSITE SEX TO SUSTAIN AND NUTRURE THEM.
TRADITIONAL FAMILIES ARE NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE IN EVERY ECONOMY OR CULTURE.
A WIFE WORKING WHILE THE HUSBAND TAKES CARE OF THE CHILDREN IS NOT WRONG.
Andy in Agoura Hills on September 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Bull. She does not know conservatives AT ALL.
Sarah Palin is the elected governor of Alaska! ALASKA! Not Vermont or some other liberal state. ALASKA. If conservatives had such a problem with moms in office she would have been crushed.
Come on, people. Some of this stuff just isn’t even passing the laugh test.
rockmom on September 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM
It is the position my husband and I have chosen for our family (mom working at home and being here for the kids while dad pursues career outside the home), but I applaud the path Sarah Palin and her husband have chosen as well. They are doing what my husband and I would do if my career prospects were the dominant ones in our family. We’d simply reverse roles and adjust accordingly. It’s just as “family values” in my opinion for dad to be at home instead of mom. The point is, the kids get at least one of the two people who care for them most in the world available to them and devoted to their needs. And Sarah’s clearly not an absentee mom, even when she’s working. I fully expect for their to be a crib in the VP’s office, just as there is in the AK governor’s office.
I think family-values conservatives can and will easily embrace the Palin’s model of family values. They’re doing it right.
aero on September 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Surprising? NO.
Look at the rapist in chief, billy jeff. Not a single feminist organization came out condemning him. Proving that feminism is just another tentacle to achieve the ultimate goal of new liberalism….communism.
jukin on September 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM
well, they probably didnt have sex until after they were married.
You know, traditional god-given values. sorry
Roger Waters on September 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM
holy toledo, the maturity. and the loving attitude this creep likely displays to his poor wife who is expected to know where teenaged children are every second of every day.
poor kids. poor woman
funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Oh dear Lord! The thought of Helen Thomas as an ice-road trucker is unnerving. After a week, that poor lady would end up looking like that Hugh Rowland guy from the History channel.
pt on September 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Kelly didn’t say that Gov. Palin has to do watch she does, just that she has the right to. And she is perfectly correct to call out the massive hypocrisy of the left while blaming that hypocrisy on the conservatives, who this women is now the hero to.
pedestrian on September 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Amen.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 2, 2008 at 3:06 PM
I’m not a huge fan of MK, but she’s not “blonde” hear, she’s legitimately irritated that this is a real topic debated (when she’s hearing opposite) and that made her flustered.
Flustered, yes. Dumb, no.
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 3:06 PM
hear=here
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Real People asking these questions? You mean the real people that work and have children? No it’s just the elitest media BO boosters that are posing these “questions” all under the guise that it’s conservatives asking them and they themselves are just relaying them. Scum. Reason 1,099 to KILL YOUR TV!
ronsfi on September 2, 2008 at 3:07 PM
IT IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE VALUE THAT WOMEN MUST STAY HOME AND TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN.
Mrs. Palin’s parents are retired and live close to the family. I know quite a few folks who work full time because loving, healthy, retired grandparents are available to watch the children during the day. That’s not family values?
funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM
There’s your problem.
Your thinking is broken.
Don’t worry, If you ask Barry, he’ll lay hands on you and fix it.
MarkTheGreat on September 2, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Excellent link! Thanks, Funky Chicken.
Disturb the Universe on September 2, 2008 at 3:10 PM
On one side, my forebears did the covered wagon thing. On the other, the Hester Street thing – fled the real Cossacks, walked across Europe, took a ship to New York City, and started over with a lot less than nothing. They had large families and from time to time – in war and peace and Depression – relative proportions of work and care and family “quality time” may have been less than ideal, and they may even have failed to devote less than full attention, for instance, to picking out their daughter’s trousseaus.
If any of them, like 99 point several 9’s percent of human beings walking the Earth today suddenly found themselves with the options and opportunities now before the Palins, they’d have concluded they’d died and gone to Heaven. I strongly suspect that the Palins themselves rightly consider themselves inordinately privileged and inexpressibly lucky, whatever the disadvantages and unusual pressures of political notoriety and responsibility.
This clucking over the baby possibly getting enough “mommy time” is demeaning beyond belief. These whiners are caricatures of Americans. They deserve to be shamed and laughed into silence. And I expect that Bristol Palin, for one, could eat them for lunch and still have room to snack on a Kos Kid and a Hot Air troll or two.
CK MacLeod on September 2, 2008 at 3:10 PM
There needs to be a new “meme,” it needs to be spread to all the Republican pundits…it goes something like this:
“What does it say about Barack Obama’s ability to lead this country when even his own supporters consistently refuse to comply with his direction to to put the Bristol Palin pregnancy off-limits in the campaign?
Either he has privately communicated to them that he didn’t really mean it, or they are refusing to accept his good faith leadership on the question of protecting family members from public inspection by the campaigns.”
In either case, the current Palin feeding frenzy, as far as it includes any of the children, is evidence that Obama is not ready to lead.
The Wild Duck on September 2, 2008 at 3:11 PM
I wear glasses to facilitate seeing the monitor so capital letters aren’t necessary. But thanks for the thoughtfulness. /sarc
I simply don’t think that this “conversation” between Kelly and Trotta has a point. Usually Kelly is an excellent interviewer even when she’s on the attack. Here, however, she looked shrill and in her zeal to make her point, she stepped all over Trotta’s.
Them’s the breaks.
baldilocks on September 2, 2008 at 3:12 PM
Exactly my point. In Alaska, she beat a corrupt republican in the primary, which is like a democrat winning a primary in Chicago – the general election is merely a formality. I wouldn’t start laughing yet.
Vashta.Nerada on September 2, 2008 at 3:12 PM
Yes, Liz Trotta is “generally conservative” on some issues, but she doesn’t speak for every conservative woman. She might be right about some older women, who’ve had what can amount to the luxury of being stay-at-home moms, but she doesn’t speak for most of their daughters, who not only need to work to be able to live in an area with decent schools, but who’ve grown up in a culture where they are expected to have a college education and a career.
Lastly, Palin has five kids. One of them is in the Service and no longer lives at home. The oldest daughter is getting married. Five minus two equals three, and one of the three is a teenager. Trotta just insulted a lot of decent, conservative women who work very hard to balance career and family, many of them through economic necessity. We’ve got them in our family and I marvel at their energy and committment to their families.
Nichevo on September 2, 2008 at 3:12 PM
One son in the military, and one daughter who is getting married, leaves 3 children at home, and a husband to help.
VP job, with all the staff that goes with it.
Any conservative woman can handle that, and still gut & roast a caribou for Sunday dinner.
NellE on September 2, 2008 at 3:13 PM
I’m sure they did… or more likely, they made a mistake and are accepting the consequences of their actions.
Glad to know you feel your political beliefs are vindicated because the daughter one of your opponents got pregnant. You probably felt Tony Snow deserved cancer as well for being a conservative.
pt on September 2, 2008 at 3:13 PM
I do believe Phyllis Schafley would agree with Trotta on this one.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Well of course she wasn’t listening. It isn’t Megyn’s job to listen, or to enlighten; it’s her job to entertain. It’s the job of the whole network.
Please don’t watch Fox for actual news or information. You have to get that from WSJ or other sources.
paul006 on September 2, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Sven, do you do anything but bitch at other posters here? ‘You don’t agree with me, you aint worth shit.’ Wayyyy too much of this ‘my way is the only way’ crap on HA. Thank God for AP.
trailboss on September 2, 2008 at 3:14 PM
So, is she claiming that all pregnant teenage girls are the “victims” of working mothers? These people really are that stupid.
bloggless on September 2, 2008 at 3:14 PM
That is exactly the electoral demographic I am thinking of.
Vashta.Nerada on September 2, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Let’s get back to the issues folks:
Obama/Biden – Marxists
McCain/Palin – Capitalists
Carry on…
kirkill on September 2, 2008 at 3:15 PM
They’re Mormons…I’d bet money they abstained (will abstain) until marriage. The Prophet knows…
Wyznowski on September 2, 2008 at 3:15 PM
And you know this is a forced marriage, how???
More of your presuming to know what others believe and think?
MarkTheGreat on September 2, 2008 at 3:15 PM
That would be Cosmo.
ronsfi on September 2, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Paul, you got any facts to support that?
bloggless on September 2, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Guys I’m a stay at home Dad with an 8 and 11 year old boys. (My ex lives 15 min. away and has them only 4 days a month on week-ends only).
I receive a nice pay check from the VA every month for being a DAV.
I could and do anything that any women can do to raise my guys the “right” way if you get my drift.
Up at six to make breakfast, check out HA, get the boys dressed, re-check HA, drive the boys to school every day, do the laundry, and clean up the house, pick them up from school, make dinner, help with homework, play video games with them, put them to bed with hugs and kisses, check HA.
I even changed poopy diapers for 7 years and didn’t mind.
Sorry ladies, it ain’t so tuff, and allot of fun to boot.
If I can do it so can Todd Palin.
1GooDDaDDy on September 2, 2008 at 3:16 PM
I must admit this thought has crossed my mind… I chose to stay home when I discovered that work was distracting me from what my middle schoolers were up to, and my husband’s responsibilities got more demanding… I didn’t have my kids for someone else to raise them.
Okay, now for how I have spun Sarah’s choice for myself:
The job of Vice-President is probably LESS demanding than the job of Governer. So she will probably have MORE time to spend with her kids!
So for the sake of the children–Vote McCain/Palin 2008!
petunia on September 2, 2008 at 3:16 PM
And?
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 3:17 PM
So…does Liz have any children? If so what is she doing with a career!? I guess this means that my wife and I are horrible parents because we both work. Maybe we should both just stay at home and live off the Government tit. Would that make us better Parents?
crazy texas on September 2, 2008 at 3:17 PM
1GooDDaDDy, not to burst your bubble, but you are still at the easy part. Just wait.
bloggless on September 2, 2008 at 3:17 PM
I am not convinced of that. Think carbon credits, global warming policy, evil ‘big oil’, etc.
Vashta.Nerada on September 2, 2008 at 3:18 PM
I second that.
Disturb the Universe on September 2, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Well, lessee here -
We have a dedicated mother of 5, one of whom is in the Army on his way to Iraq with a husband who QUIT HIS JOB! when his wife ran for and won the Governorship of Alaska. One can conclude that either Todd or a security screened Nanny can hold the fort at the Naval Observatory while Mom is at work.
On the other hand, we have Democrat Party members who routinely leave kith and kin at home to run for political office. We also have past co-presidents and ex-presidents with a child who was younger than Governor Palin’s eldest daughter is now trying to recreate this country. How many members of the House of Representatives have been pregnant while in office? For that matter, where would we be today if women with children had NOT gone to work at the factory during WWII?
As to the ‘Conservative’ Women (and Men) who espouse having a woman stay home to tend the fires, skin the mammoth and keep the ever growing population at home safe. Welcome to the 21st Century. I think you’ll find women in this age a bit stronger and more intelligent than the women in “Mad Men”. Thanks to the ever climbing tax rates, both husband and wife need to work to keep the wolves of the IRS at bay.
Get a life people! This ain’t 1950
SeniorD on September 2, 2008 at 3:18 PM
I was waiting for this.
It’s not a forced marriage. They were already engaged, wingnut.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 2, 2008 at 3:18 PM
P.S. And I’m a very young 58 years old with one leg 4 inches shorter than the other.
1GooDDaDDy on September 2, 2008 at 3:19 PM
I’m certain the daughter in college has never, ever done anything you and your wife don’t know about.
uh huh.
I learned when my eldest was very, very young that as soon as the words, “my child would never” come out of your mouth, bad parent karma starts looking for a way to pay you back in spades. I’ve been a “there but by the grace of God” girl ever since.
Quisp on September 2, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Here’s to hoping Sarah’cuda can straighten the Maverick out on those.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 2, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Sheesh, you don’t have to keep constant tabs on your kids. Just talk to them about responsibility and consequences, on all the tough topics, sex, drugs, alcohol, being godless, you know?
They’ll get it or not. It’s not your fault if they screw up.
I think a kid that’s watched too close is more likely to make bad mistakes because they haven’t ever been trusted.
kirkill on September 2, 2008 at 3:21 PM
One can always hope – though she highlighted taking on ‘big oil’ in her first speech….
Vashta.Nerada on September 2, 2008 at 3:21 PM
You know, Roger, what you know about what conservatives REALLY believe wouldn’t fill a thimble.
Conservatives are working mom’s and working dad’s. We have no problem with strong, independent women and we support women and mom’s who enter the workforce and battle and scrape to get ahead. We admire anyone, male or female, who has to work to put food on the table or chooses to make sacrifices to better their family, their community or their country.
We may -tsk- -tsk- when we hear about a teen-age pregnancy, but we then volunteer to help them live WITH the baby instead of volunteering to drive them to an abortion center.
We believe that it takes a family to raise a family – and that includes children, sibling, parents and grandparents. We do NOT believe that parenting is the sole responsibility of the person with the ovaries.
We believe that no matter how well you teach your children they will still go and do things counter to your teachings. We also do not believe in sheltering our children. We instill our morals, ethics and theology in them and then let them go into the real world, confident that we have given them all they need to survive and excel (if they use it).
We also believe that when they make mistakes we stand by them and help them get through it and to deal with any/all repercussions that occur. We DON’T teach them to run away from the problem or to blame others (or the government) for their own bad decisions.
We don’t see babies, even those born to teenagers, as ‘mistakes.’ We are a little saddened that the parents have to grow up a little sooner than necessary, but we wholeheartedly and joyfully embrace and welcome the new addition to the family.
And if OUR children happen to grow up without any major ‘event’ or ‘disruption’, we don’t gloat about being better parents, we thank the Lord that our children didn’t have to pay for the mistakes they most certainly made (and learned from). In other words, we don’t celebrate another family’s problem, we say “there, but for the grace of God, go I.”
Religious_Zealot on September 2, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Too late.
BacaDog on September 2, 2008 at 3:22 PM
I didn’t even need to go that far. Killed mine at #14.
whitetop on September 2, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Kids sometimes have secrets they don’t share with Daddy until they are older, safely married, and on their own, safe from punishment.:) You know why a baseball team never brags about a no hitter in progress? They may jinx it.
a capella on September 2, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Look, I’m a military wife with a master’s degree (in science! if anybody used to listen to the funny Dr. Science show on NPR). I stay home with the kids because we move all the time and because my husband is frequently deployed to places where I can’t call him to come home from the office to handle family issues.
Mrs. Palin has her husband close at hand and her parents close at hand. She also has siblings she is close to. With all that family support, she can do her thing, and she is obviously quite talented in her field.
Isn’t one of our problems with Islamic society that they enslave their women? Why on earth would folks want to copy that behavior here in the USA?
funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 3:22 PM
DAMN STRAIGHT.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 2, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Did anyone just see Sally Quinn on CNN just now?
She was on discussing her article here:
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/sally_quinn/2008/08/sarah_polin.html
These people are irritating.
gumble on September 2, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Roger, while I have no doubt that your wife knows where your daughters are at every moment, I sincerely doubt she knows exactly what they are doing while they are there. Kids are so quick these days.
bloggless on September 2, 2008 at 3:23 PM
I know what you’re getting at, but that will be the best part, helping them become men as teenagers. Looking forward to it really.
1GooDDaDDy on September 2, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Obviously, this woman wants to dictate how other women should live their lives.
Of course, Trotta sounds like a bitter old hag for making such an irresponsible statement. I guess women of all walks of life should quit their jobs, quit college, and sit on park benches, waiting for a man to pick them up and breed with them.
That’s exactly what I’m hearing from this loon.
madmonkphotog on September 2, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Mock us if you must. But I am eternally gratefully for the counsel of Spencer W. Kimball in the 1970s. I hold that my following his counsel has led to my wonderful 28 year marriage and my beautiful children who are embarking on lives of education and brillance of which I am very proud.
If I had chosen to walk in the paths that most of my generation chose my life could have turned out very differently.
And the Romney boys are all married and started on productive lives without the bondage that comes with making terrible mistakes in the areas of life that bring the most happiness.
petunia on September 2, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Funky chicken scores again.
Disturb the Universe on September 2, 2008 at 3:25 PM
New to the board here. I think it’s great that Gov. Palin can run for office, even with five children (one quite new). As a father I’ve learned that kids will listen only so much regardless of how much active parenting you infuse them with. As a SAHD my wife is the one bringing home the bacon.
Guess what, her views mirror Gov. Palin’s, she won’t actually shoot a gun, but she understands others right to own/shoot them.
c.u.shoeless on September 2, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Today lavender day? I missed that memo…
Mazztek on September 2, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Yes, Megyn’s approach with Trotta sounded hostile.
While Trotta may not be an Obama-style liberal, is she really conservative? I don’t know. And I have never heard conservatives postulating that men and woman are the same. However, I don’t think that support of Governor Palin is based upon that proposition.
Also, based on my admittedly limited review, it seems that the anti-Palin comments posted on MSM sites and here at Hot Air are overwhelmingly from Obama supporters. Only a small fraction (well under 10%) of the doubts and negative comments are from Republicans, conservatives, or people claiming to be so.
Loxodonta on September 2, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Maybe that was why Kelly was irritated?
Vashta.Nerada on September 2, 2008 at 3:27 PM
And…what?
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 3:28 PM
Was asking what your statement had to do with mine.
My point has nothing to do whether any pundit agreed. I was just saying she’s irritated not stupid. That’s not about the merits of the argument.
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Trotta was the first woman to cover Vietnam from the front lines. She was in the battle areas, and insisted upon no special treatment based on her gender. She is the resident devil’s advocate on Fox Sunday morning show, explaining the liberal bias in the news industry as a former insider. I tend to trust what she says based on her accuracy over the past 2-3 years.
Vashta.Nerada on September 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Fred Thompson married his high school girlfriend because she was pregnant. His daughter died of a drug overdose. And we all know how conservatives just hate Ol’ Fred.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009798
Or is it just that we “conservatives” give Fred the thumbs-up because he’s a man?
/I sent money to Thompson, get his FredPAC emails, etc, etc.
funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 3:32 PM
There’s a simple answer to this question on how the kids will be raises…
…Daddy Palin.
ballz2wallz on September 2, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Yes, but it’s a much narrower demographic than you might think, since many of these women have daughters who are working mothers.
Personally, I wish every mother could stay home with their kids, but that’s not today’s reality. It’s common practice in some circles to chalk it up to consumerism. (e.g. Well, if their mortgage weren’t so high…or Do they really need that new car?), but time marches on, things change, and living in a modest house often brings a very modest expectation of neighborhood safety for your family. A car is a lifeline — for work, chauffering kids to school and various activities, etc., and life is so hectic for young parents that maintaining an older vehicle is just too time-consuming.
Trotta is living in the past — and she are I are contemporaries. I speak from experience, where she seems to be speaking from an older ideal, long gone.
Nichevo on September 2, 2008 at 3:33 PM
I was 6 months pregnant when I got married. This is one conservative woman that can relate to Palin and her family immensely. I’m just glad her daughter has such a supportive and loving family, that she’s not alone going through this.
I don’t know why the left is going after this, they need to be careful. after all their own nominee is the product of teen pregnancy and his dad split town. If they’re going to try to ‘blame’ Palin for her daughter’s actions than I guess they better go after Obama’s grandmother too, because she sure let her daughter run around!
Keli on September 2, 2008 at 3:34 PM
His sister helped raise them until he remarried, I believe.
It’s easy for the media to answer this, they always assume a man has woman behind him raising the kids, keeping the home up, etc. And even if she works, she supervises the nanny, the housekeeper, etc.
Wethal on September 2, 2008 at 3:34 PM
I repeat… while clearing my voice:
The job of Vice-President is probably LESS demanding than the job of Governer. So she will probably have MORE time to spend with her kids!
So for the sake of the children–Vote McCain/Palin 2008!
petunia on September 2, 2008 at 3:16 PM
petunia on September 2, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Roger Waters and freevillage are two peas in a pod – they’re better than everyone else.
Consign them to the troll bin.
fossten on September 2, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Yep, just like me and my traditional evangelical beliefs. And how I waited until I was married. Oh, wait I’m not married. But at 17, I was stupid and naive….
mjk on September 2, 2008 at 3:35 PM
If being hounded or faced down by reporters is a prerequisite for running for a national office, then no lib could be qualified.
JellyToast on September 2, 2008 at 3:36 PM
You guys get all pissed when somebody likes me mentions the moral values that our parents and our grandparents all believed. You cant change nature with your uppity new moral standards.
Get all pissed if it makes you feel better. But, I believe that it is an undeniable fact that, IN GENERAL, children are better served being watched over and raised very carefully by fully engaged parents. IN GENERAL, the best situation is a mother watchin her children like a hawk and a father also watching out but bring home the bread.
They were already engaged? Thats even worse. who lets their 17 year old daughter get “engaged” (snicker) to a self-described “bad-boy” hockey player who was just kicked out of his previous high school. Dont these parents give a rats ass what their children are up to? Not when you get to be a mayor or something, I guess.
Roger Waters on September 2, 2008 at 3:36 PM
Man. Anyone else sick of hearing about Palin?
iamse7en on September 2, 2008 at 3:36 PM
IT IS DONE
Not particularly. :)
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on September 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM
I do not know the context of this statement, but holy christ what adult COULD POSSIBLY BELIEVE MEN AND WOMEN ARE THE SAME??? O well ok a leftie could be that nieve I spose.
allrsn on September 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM
But, many also have husbands who feel the same way. All I am saying that in a close election this could be an issue, so people shouldn’t pooh-pooh it.
Vashta.Nerada on September 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM
My child arrived just the other day
came to the world in the usual way
but there fish to catch
bills to pay
she learned to hunt while I was away
and she was talkin’ before I knew it
and as she grew
she’d say I’m gonna be like you, mom
ya know I’m gonna be like you
And the moose in the oven
and the fishin’ hole
little girl flew to the northern pole
when ya comin’ home, mom
I don’t know when
but we’ll be together then, yeah
ya know we’ll have a good time then
My kid turned ten just the other day
she said thanks for the rod mom c’mon let’s play
can ya teach me to fish
I said not today
I got a lot to do
she said that’s ok
and she turned away
and she never seemed hurt
she said I’m gonna be like her, yeah
ya know I’m gonna be like her
And the moose in the oven
and the fishin’ hole
little girl flew to the northern pole
when ya comin’ home, mom
I don’t know when
but we’ll be together then, yeah
ya know we’ll have a good time then
She came from college just the other day
so much like a woman I just had to say
I’m proud of you
can ya sit for a while
she shook her head
and she said with a smile
what I’d really like mom
is to borrow the shot gun
see ya later
gonna have some fun
And the moose in the oven
and the fishin’ hole
little girl flew to the northern pole
when ya comin’ home, mom
I don’t know when
but we’ll be together then, yeah
ya know we’ll have a good time then
I’ve long since retired
my daughter moved away
I called her up just the other day
I’d like to see you if you don’t mind
she said I’d love to mom if I could find the time
ya see this campaign’s a hassle
and kids have the flu
but it’s sure nice talkin’ to you, mom
it’s been sure nice talkin’ to you
and as I hung up the phone it occurred to me
she’d grown up just like me, yeah
my girl, was just like me.
And the moose in the oven
and the fishin’ hole
little girl flew to the northern pole
when ya comin’ home, mom
I don’t know when
but we’ll be together then, yeah
ya know we’ll have a good time then
Tony737 on September 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM
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