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GOP convention, night two: Thompson and Lieberman

posted at 7:21 pm on September 2, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Here’s your comment thread. 7 p.m. ET on C-SPAN; watch online if you’re not near a TV. Bush will speak via satellite at some point and then it’s Fred plating bleeding chunks of red meat and Joementum reprising Zell Miller — but kinder and gentler! — in primetime.

How intense is public interest in Palin? Judging by online activity, more intense than it’s ever been even for The One. Our heroine’s lying low for now, but if you’re hungry for more, here’s tomorrow’s “scandal” today: HuffPo video of her addressing a Pentecostal church and asking for prayers that the task of U.S. troops be “a task that is from God” and “that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.” NBC has already picked it up and is naturally very, very concerned. Too early to tell yet which stereotype of evangelicals the left will try to demagogue her with, the idea that they want to wage a holy war on Muslims or the idea that they’re trying to bring about the Rapture and the U.S. military is the fastest path to Armageddon. But it sounds to me like all she’s really saying here is that she hopes God approves of what we’re doing, which must be the most rudimentary prayer in all of Christendom. Am I right or has my benighted atheism clouded my judgment once again. Weigh in!

While you mull that, here’s video from CNN of Sally Quinn telling Christians how they’re supposed to feel about a working mom neglecting her kids by going off gallivanting to shop or get her hair done or run for vice president of the United States. Like Andy McCarthy says, it’s downright heartwarming to see the left take such an interest in the Palin children’s well-being after so cruelly ignoring the effect on the Obama girls of having daddy away for such long stretches at a time. (Barney Frank not included!) Exit quotation: “Sarah was a touchdown, but I feel like we’re looking at it on the video replay for a final call.”


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AP, this will hit you in many different ways…

http://www.reason.com/convention2008/show/128519.html

ninjapirate on September 2, 2008 at 7:26 PM

She added, “That’s what we have to make sure that we are praying for: that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”

“It’s pretty uncomfortable stuff,” said the political operative, after watching the video online. “It’s bad. It’s really bad. … It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.”

Lol. Seriously, laugh out loud. They are dead right! That’s not going to play in America. We prefer GD AMERICA! Maroons.

I actually think right now that’s just to play up the Mac didn’t vet her angle.

—-
Football line there is pretty good, actually. But you know what they say, indisputable evidence to overturn. I think she’s sitting pretty. There would have to be photos of her drinking valu-rite on a hobo-hunting spree to be a problem with the base. And the rest will be decided by the top of the ticket.

Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 7:26 PM

Glad you get that Barney the dinosaur link. So everything is on the table there blowhard ?

William Amos on September 2, 2008 at 7:26 PM

ignoring the effect on the Obama girls of having daddy away for such long stretches at a time. (Barney Frank not included!) Exit quotation: “Sarah was a touchdown, but I feel like we’re looking at it on the video replay for a final call.”

Forget about daddy Obasma how about Mommy Obama she has been out campiagning for her husband from day one. Who was watching her kids when she was campiagning and working her 100k (pre Senate victory by husband) 300k (post senate victory by hubby)/year job?

unseen on September 2, 2008 at 7:26 PM

I agree with your assessment about the prayer, AP. I don’t really see any other possible conclusion, but I am sure one will be fabricated and repeated until it becomes truth.

joewm315 on September 2, 2008 at 7:28 PM

Gabriel Malor had a brilliant rebuttal of the sickening lib fem attacks on Sarah Palin over at Ace’s.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/272229.php

probably the best response I’ve seen yet

funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 7:28 PM

Progressive Broadcasting System does not begin convention coverage here in TX until 8:00 Eastern. Feed me some crumbs!!

Peri Winkle on September 2, 2008 at 7:30 PM

BTW someone else asked where was Nancy Pelosi when she had 5 kids ?

William Amos on September 2, 2008 at 7:30 PM

breaking news at Red State Dems have released Palin’s social security number. how low can these turd balls go…

http://www.redstate.com/

unseen on September 2, 2008 at 7:30 PM

it’s downright heartwarming to see the left take such an interest in the Palin children’s well-being after so cruelly ignoring the effect on the Obama girls of having daddy away for such long stretches at a time

Daddy, what city are you in?

calbear on September 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM

Peri Winkle on September 2, 2008 at 7:30 PM

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx

unseen on September 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM

AP, this will hit you in many different ways…

http://www.reason.com/convention2008/show/128519.html

ninjapirate on September 2, 2008 at 7:26 PM

If it’s true that the Trig-Bristol rumor was started by a bitter Alaskan republican, that could throw a real wrench into things.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM

I do wish they would swap Fred! and Joe on the schedule.

funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM

Am I right or has my benighted atheism clouded my judgment once again. Weigh in!

AP – I think you’re right.

nailinmyeye on September 2, 2008 at 7:32 PM

If it’s true that the Trig-Bristol rumor was started by a bitter Alaskan republican, that could throw a real wrench into things.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM

why? just proof that bitter SOBs hate her from both parties.

funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 7:32 PM

why? just proof that bitter SOBs hate her from both parties.

funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 7:32 PM

Just more ammo to fire at Republicans in general, enhancing the image of the need to remove Republicans from the White House.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2008 at 7:34 PM

But it sounds to me like all she’s really saying here is that she hopes God approves of what we’re doing, which must be the most rudimentary prayer in all of Christendom. Am I right or has my benighted atheism clouded my judgment once again. Weigh in!

You are right. Not bad for an atheist, Allah. Have a little bit of red meat later…it’ll bring some color to those pallid cheeks.

ManlyRash on September 2, 2008 at 7:34 PM

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM

Mad, if you knew Lyda Green (as I said in another thread) you wouldn’t put it past her. The woman is a jerk…

upinak on September 2, 2008 at 7:35 PM

Does InTrade have a line on Joe switching parties tonight? I’d like to get in on that.

Ronnie on September 2, 2008 at 7:36 PM

You can post here, or join us at in the chat room. Look under the Ed Morissey Show post down a little on the right side of threads on Hot Air.

Weebork on September 2, 2008 at 7:38 PM

Can anyone tell me how the coverage of the two conventions compares in terms of hours broadcast by the networks? It seems the RNC is only getting 1 hour per network tonight. Is that more or less than they gave the Dims?

uncalheels on September 2, 2008 at 7:38 PM

HuffPo video of her addressing a Pentecostal church and asking for prayers that the task of U.S. troops be “a task that is from God” and “that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”

Once again, the brilliance of selecting Sarah’cuda shines through: if the Drive-Bys feature this story they will open the door wide on Rev. “Goddamn Amerikkka” Wright, one more hitting themselves in the nose.

ManlyRash on September 2, 2008 at 7:39 PM

Peri Winkle on September 2, 2008 at 7:30 PM

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx

unseen on September 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM

Yeah, and not for nothing, but C-SPAN TV has the best convention coverage. More speakers, no talking heads.

JetBoy on September 2, 2008 at 7:40 PM

But it sounds to me like all she’s really saying here is that she hopes God approves of what we’re doing, which must be the most rudimentary prayer in all of Christendom. Am I right or has my benighted atheism clouded my judgment once again. Weigh in!

You, sir, are correct. But why would you even doubt it?

progressoverpeace on September 2, 2008 at 7:41 PM

Well back when I went to church it seems to me that a common prayer was the Lords Prayer.

Thy will be done
on earth as it is heaven.

Terrye on September 2, 2008 at 7:45 PM

While you mull that, here’s video from CNN of Sally Quinn telling Christians how they’re supposed to feel about a working mom neglecting her kids by going off gallivanting to shop or get her hair done or run for vice president of the United States.

According to the libs, a woman’s place is in the home, barefoot and pregnant in front of the stove. How progressive.

rmgraha on September 2, 2008 at 7:46 PM

That should be in heaven.

No lightning bolts please.

As for people wondering about Palin’s kids, they sound backward. They seem to think that family values means that women are kept in the kitchen and the bedroom.

Sometimes thinking on the left is so provincial.

Terrye on September 2, 2008 at 7:46 PM

C-SPAN just posted tonight’s schedule:

9:45 ET President Bush
10:10 ET FRED!
10:45 ET Joe Lieberman

ReubenJCogburn on September 2, 2008 at 7:48 PM

did steele speak today? i’m bummed i didn’t catch it.

anna on September 2, 2008 at 7:49 PM

Sorry, make that 10:40 ET for Joe.

ReubenJCogburn on September 2, 2008 at 7:50 PM

You can post here, or join us at in the chat room. Look under the Ed Morissey Show post down a little on the right side of threads on Hot Air.

Weebork on September 2, 2008 at 7:38 PM

Which one? Conservative Grapevine?

a capella on September 2, 2008 at 7:53 PM

It is New Testament teaching that civil government is ordained of God. Why would it be out of line then for civil government’s leadership to be desirous of God’s blessing? Don’t our elected representatives often close their speeches with “God bless America”?

tgharris on September 2, 2008 at 7:55 PM

Fox News’ online stream is the best for watching the convention. No talking heads just the direct stream. They also have an Adobe Air app that sits right on your desktop.

Complete7 on September 2, 2008 at 7:56 PM

why didn’t cnn carry the whole convention like they did for the dems?

anna on September 2, 2008 at 7:58 PM

Don’t Stop Believin’ “She’s just a small town girl.” – should be Sarah’s song.

carbon_footprint on September 2, 2008 at 7:59 PM

ReubenJCogburn on September 2, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Can’t wait to see Teh Fred! talk up Teh Cuda. I can almost taste Teh RedMeat.

ManlyRash on September 2, 2008 at 8:01 PM

Its started

William Amos on September 2, 2008 at 8:01 PM

What was the story on the Alaskan Dems releasing Palin’s social security #? I’ve been out.

Connie on September 2, 2008 at 8:01 PM

Wheres the Ron Paul convention post?

offroadaz on September 2, 2008 at 8:02 PM

why didn’t cnn carry the whole convention like they did for the dems? – anna on September 2, 2008 at 7:58 PM

Because they are in the tank for Obama.

ManlyRash on September 2, 2008 at 8:02 PM

a capella on September 2, 2008 at 7:53 PM

Here.

Note though, that you’ll need a quick registration at ustream.tv

Weebork on September 2, 2008 at 8:02 PM

What was the story on the Alaskan Dems releasing Palin’s social security #? I’ve been out. – Connie on September 2, 2008 at 8:01 PM

Go to the headlines at the top of the page – there is a link to a story on this at RedState.com

ManlyRash on September 2, 2008 at 8:03 PM

Uh oh! During the montage there was something that….didn’t happen as much as it “should”, that the libs are going to jump all over.

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 2, 2008 at 8:03 PM

ManlyRash on September 2, 2008 at 8:03 PM

Thanks!

Connie on September 2, 2008 at 8:03 PM

Sarah Pawlenty? Lol.

Ryan Gandy on September 2, 2008 at 8:06 PM

Did she say Pawlenty?

upinak on September 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM

upinak on September 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM

Yup. Bet she’s mentally kicking herself now, though she did correct herself in the subsequent sentence and use Sarah’s correct name.

Ryan Gandy on September 2, 2008 at 8:08 PM

Please talk more about Palin so we can hear a helluva lot more cheering.

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 2, 2008 at 8:08 PM

Yup, Sarah Pawlenty. Where do we find these senile people?

ErikTheRed on September 2, 2008 at 8:08 PM

Oh, the Dems are going to really go after “Sarah Pawlenty” with “Even REPUBLICANS don’t know who she is.”

Head. Hurts. It’s PALIN!

lansing quaker on September 2, 2008 at 8:08 PM

Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity…

Lead them straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith. They will need Thy blessings. Their road will be long and hard. For the enemy is strong. He may hurl back our forces. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again; and we know by Thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our sons will triumph…

F.D.R.

Weight of Glory on September 2, 2008 at 8:09 PM

Sarah Pawlenty? Lol.

Post on DailyKos that says Trig is Sarah and Pawlenty’s love child in 5…4..3..2..

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 2, 2008 at 8:09 PM

If the Malkin Army doesn’t treat this assault like the immigration reform battle, the election is lost. This election is being played out at the Supermarket counter. You better start ringing some phones of the hooks of people like Jay Weener at Us Magazine working to trash a strong Christian candidate!! Remember these initial rumors were all lies to get the sharks feeding. And these people ran with it in a national print magazine.

You better go hand to hand fast. Defense Is Not The Best Offense McCain! Malkin you better treat this like Immigration or you are going to be swept over by this scurrilous media/moonbat alliance.

pc on September 2, 2008 at 8:10 PM

good ad idea from redstate poster:

Wintergreen September 2nd, 2008 at 5:21 p.m. (link)

The GOP is needs to at least try to swing on these issues.

An ad could go:

“Obama’s followers say they stand for change. They do…if you consider identity theft and publicly humiliating 17 year old girls with false rumors change.”

Then they should show pictures of their thugs breaking windows and attacking people in St. Paul while the narrator asks, “Is this the kind of change this country needs? Obama and his minions are too hateful and extreme to be trusted with power.”

anybody have any contacts with 527 folks?

funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 8:10 PM

Did she say Pawlenty?

upinak on September 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM

Uh Oh, great kickoff.

gxpgxp on September 2, 2008 at 8:12 PM

where was the effort to get people to MN like they did to stop the anti-war memorial protests? Lots of balls being dropped this election cycle. Witness the one-sided assault on Palin and apologetic, instead of apoplectic response from our gentlemanly GOP. Disgusting.

pc on September 2, 2008 at 8:13 PM

Norm Coleman with a killer line on C-SPAN.

BadgerHawk on September 2, 2008 at 8:14 PM

Coleman is just not too impressive…

Nyog_of_the_Bog on September 2, 2008 at 8:14 PM

Jefferson. As much as the libs love bringing him up when it comes to their hatred of religion (read: christianity), they would hate everything else about him. He’s personally a fave of mine.

Speaking of such, why is “federalist” mis-used so much. “Federalist” does NOT mean “for states rights”. It means “Strong central (read: federal) government”.

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 2, 2008 at 8:14 PM

Coleman is just not too impressive…

I concur.

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 2, 2008 at 8:15 PM

Then they should show pictures of their thugs breaking windows and attacking people in St. Paul while the narrator asks, “Is this the kind of change this country needs? Obama and his minions are too hateful and extreme to be trusted with power.”
anybody have any contacts with 527 folks?

funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 8:10 PM

I havent been watching much TV. Is much of this being covered? I’m really sick of these anarchists provoking and causing trouble, then crying and whining when they get caught.

gxpgxp on September 2, 2008 at 8:16 PM

Who said “Sarah Pawlenty?” I’m almost afraid to ask…

funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 8:16 PM

gxpgxp on September 2, 2008 at 8:12 PM

LOL Naaa…

Didn’t Obama say “Please welcome my new President, Joe Biden!”… OPPS!

upinak on September 2, 2008 at 8:16 PM

Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 7:26 PM

Hey, I was out of town (away from computer) when Sen. McCain picked Gov. Palin for the V.P., how are the disenfranchised (Michael & MB4) feeling about the pick? I was looking for them to ask but haven’t found them yet. Did it lighten the mood at all?

Cindy Munford on September 2, 2008 at 8:17 PM

Speaking of such, why is “federalist” mis-used so much. “Federalist” does NOT mean “for states rights”. It means “Strong central (read: federal) government”.

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 2, 2008 at 8:14 PM

Wrong.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2008 at 8:17 PM

Nice “feminist” view point, Sally Quinn. Basically you’re saying that no woman who is a mother should ever be president. And of course, Barry Obama’s fatherhood would never be an impediment or a “distraction” to his ability to perform the duties of being president, because he’s a man, and therefore naturally superior to Palin. Thanks for clearing that up for us, Sally. It’s always so instructive to listen to a Liberal explain why women can’t perform as well as men.

BTW Sally, did you learn all about the superiority of men when you were having your adulterous affair with your then-boss at the Washington Post (now your husband) Ben Bradlee? Just wondering where you get your absolute moral authority to lecture the rest of us about Governor Palin’s family responsibilities.

AZCoyote on September 2, 2008 at 8:17 PM

Who said “Sarah Pawlenty?” I’m almost afraid to ask…

funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 8:16 PM

Well I forgot the lady’s name. But she also said that she was happy that “She has come Home to St. paul”. Ahh Sarah was born in Idaho and an Alaska. I don’t remember Minnesota in there!

upinak on September 2, 2008 at 8:18 PM

…HuffPo video of her addressing a Pentecostal church and asking for prayers that the task of U.S. troops be “a task that is from God” and “that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”

Yeah, it’s so totally shocking that she would address a church with that message.

Leave it to Chez Olbermann to find this scandalous.

Buy Danish on September 2, 2008 at 8:18 PM

Go OReilly Go! Keep it up. They are no better than the KKK.

pc on September 2, 2008 at 8:18 PM

Coleman is just not too impressive…

Nyog_of_the_Bog on September 2, 2008 at 8:14 PM

He just needs to win.

Cindy Munford on September 2, 2008 at 8:18 PM

Better article.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2008 at 8:18 PM

Who said “Sarah Pawlenty?” I’m almost afraid to ask…

funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 8:16 PM

An elderly woman who was starting up the program. I dont know her name. Maybe she was a local Minnesotan?

gxpgxp on September 2, 2008 at 8:19 PM

If it’s true that the Trig-Bristol rumor was started by a bitter Alaskan republican, that could throw a real wrench into things.

I disagree, as this proves her bona fides as a real reformer who wasn’t afraid to take on corruption in her own party. And it draws another distinction between Sarah and Obama, who embraced hardball Chicago Democrat politics to feed his own ego-driven ambitions.

Dariaanne on September 2, 2008 at 8:21 PM

Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 7:26 PM

Hey, I was out of town (away from computer) when Sen. McCain picked Gov. Palin for the V.P., how are the disenfranchised (Michael & MB4) feeling about the pick? I was looking for them to ask but haven’t found them yet. Did it lighten the mood at all?

Cindy Munford on September 2, 2008 at 8:17 PM

Heh. Um, NO.

Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 8:23 PM

Dariaanne on September 2, 2008 at 8:21 PM

I agree, a Republican snarking would appear to have been benefiting from some of the corruption. That maybe a stretch but I am willing to throw them under the bus if they don’t get in line.

Cindy Munford on September 2, 2008 at 8:24 PM

Coleman is just not too impressive…

Nyog_of_the_Bog on September 2, 2008 at 8:14 PM

He just needs to win.

Cindy Munford on September 2, 2008 at 8:18 PM

+1

that pastor McPherson is quite a looker.

I’m watching the convention footage online. Where is O’Reilly?

funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 8:24 PM

Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 8:23 PM

Oh well, I live to dream.

Cindy Munford on September 2, 2008 at 8:24 PM

Oh boy, watch the guys who want all mention of religion removed from public life scream @ Davis’ speech.

Ryan Gandy on September 2, 2008 at 8:25 PM

Wrong.

Still prefer the classic meating. The “new federalism” meaning is the exact opposite of it and causes confusion.

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 2, 2008 at 8:26 PM

Paraphrasing a line from the comments on the Reason link:

Sarah Palin: Cuter than Cheney, just as mean and a better shot!

Go Sarah!

cool breeze on September 2, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Davis? Am I watching the wrong convention coverage?

funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 8:28 PM

Ashley Gunn > Sarah Palin

Not to knock the governor’s looks or anything.

Ryan Gandy on September 2, 2008 at 8:29 PM

how are the disenfranchised (Michael & MB4) feeling about the pick

I know MB4 is just digging and digging for reasons to come up with to convince us that we shouldn’t vote for McCain/Palin.

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 2, 2008 at 8:30 PM

Joementum reprising Zell Miller — but kinder and gentler! — in primetime.

Heh. One of my favorite lines from the last convention was Allah’s. After Miller’s speech he said something along the lines of ‘if Cheney wants to match this speech he’d better come out with Osama bin Laden’s head on a spike.’

Slublog on September 2, 2008 at 8:30 PM

Still prefer the classic meating. The “new federalism” meaning is the exact opposite of it and causes confusion.

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 2, 2008 at 8:26 PM

Yeah, but try calling yourself a confederate or confederalist and see what connotations show up. Besides, definitions change. Compare a classical liberal and a modern liberal, for example.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2008 at 8:32 PM

Happy liberals? Isn’t that an oxymoron?

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 2, 2008 at 8:33 PM

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 2, 2008 at 8:33 PM

You ain’t the only one who thinks so.

Ryan Gandy on September 2, 2008 at 8:35 PM

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 2, 2008 at 8:30 PM

Bummer! Oh well.

Cindy Munford on September 2, 2008 at 8:36 PM

Hey, it’s Mary Richards of Minneapolis!

Tuning Spork on September 2, 2008 at 8:36 PM

UPDATE:

To watch both the convention and participate in chat, go here.

You will still need to register at ustream.tv to participate in chat!

Weebork on September 2, 2008 at 8:36 PM

Yeah, but try calling yourself a confederate or confederalist and see what connotations show up. Besides, definitions change. Compare a classical liberal and a modern liberal, for example.

I understand what you are saying but people who don’t know anything about our founding fathers will think that Jefferson was FOR a strong central/federal government because he was an Anti-Federalist. Knowing that the opposite was true, it really bugs me that people may think anti-federalist = pro strong central/federal government.

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 2, 2008 at 8:36 PM

Did anyone hear Jawn Cary claim on George Steponupandiss’ Sunday talking heads’ program that Sarah Palin has “zero, zero” experience in national security? And he did? And Obama does?

Check this out: http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/sarah_palin_rush_limbaugh/2008/09/01/126755.html?s=al&promo_code=6912-1

It refers to a Newsbuster story.

onlineanalyst on September 2, 2008 at 8:36 PM

Hey, it’s Mary Richards of Minneapolis!

Tuning Spork on September 2, 2008 at 8:36 PM

Yes! Rhoda is up next!

gxpgxp on September 2, 2008 at 8:37 PM

who?

funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 8:38 PM

oh, youse guys

not gonna log onto the chat thing…don’t like it and the defeatism is a little strong with lorienwhatever over there.

funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 8:39 PM

breaking news at Red State Dems have released Palin’s social security number. how low can these turd balls go…

http://www.redstate.com/

unseen on September 2, 2008 at 7:30 PM

…. Not surprised, they did it to Mr. Steele. But this is truly monstrous, they will stop at nothing, with no thought to what harm could come to innocent children.

This truly is………… war.

Seven Percent Solution on September 2, 2008 at 8:39 PM

Mrs. Pawlenty?

funky chicken on September 2, 2008 at 8:39 PM

Sorry, just some 70’s sitcom flashbacks!

gxpgxp on September 2, 2008 at 8:39 PM

YES!! Talk up on adoption!!!

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 2, 2008 at 8:40 PM

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