Biden on Palin: “She’s a governor, that’s no mean feat”
posted at 3:33 pm on September 2, 2008 by Allahpundit
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It comes at around 37 minutes in. The questioner’s trying to bait him into saying something more “Bidenesque,” but he must have gotten a talking-to after taking heat — undeservedly — for complimenting her looks a few days ago because he’s the model of civility here, right down to defending Bristol Palin from media scrutiny. Smart thinking, just like Team Barry’s new anti-McCain ad is smart: Again, no mention of Palin at all, just a whole lot of McSame. The media will do their dirty work for them over the next few weeks. Why muddy their own hands in the meantime? Click the image to watch.
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Screw Biden.
He’s a loose cannon.
madmonkphotog on September 2, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Heh…Biden *may* get it he is after all a Senator of LONG standing….
You kiss someone while stabbing them in the back, the nutroots are not that sophisticated.
Joe is just trying to keep “expectation tm” from being raised too high for him.
sven10077 on September 2, 2008 at 3:36 PM
“Children are off limits.” Yeah, well once you learn a few things about Joe’s gang you don’t really have to wonder why he said that.
BigD on September 2, 2008 at 3:36 PM
Democrat politicians, slick. Evil.
kirkill on September 2, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Vicious attack on AP (over his faint heart) at Ace of Spades:
“EeyorePundut.”
Heh.
misterpeasea on September 2, 2008 at 3:37 PM
“Again, no mention of Palin at all, just a whole lot of McSame. The media will do their dirty work for them over the next few weeks. Why muddy their own hands in the meantime?”
Exactly. I don’t see how McCain wins this election.
lodge on September 2, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Exactly. This is exactly the right approach for them to take. (Darn it.) Hopefully, Biden’s nature will get the best of him and he won’t be able to stick to the script, just like he wasn’t supposed to talk politics on Gustav landfall day but couldn’t help himself. But for now, letting the media do the mudslinging while their hands stay clean is the way to go for Obama and Biden.
aero on September 2, 2008 at 3:39 PM
That’s the thing…Obama/Biden can play this like they find all this to be oh so inappropriate, while the MSM goes after Palin like a rabid dog. It surely is a strategic advantage (as the media bias has always been)…as always we just have to hope people out there in the real world are as grossed out by this feeding frenzy as I think they are.
bagadeez04 on September 2, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Why is the McCain camp so quiet on this? They’ve been so aggressive on counter attacks.
Do you think they’re letting the Dems and the Media hang themselves and plan to come out on Wed & Thurs and hammer it?
What are your thoughts.
stenwin77 on September 2, 2008 at 3:40 PM
Ok, now I am trying to figure out who is running for prez for the dems, Biden or Obama
ConservativePartyNow on September 2, 2008 at 3:40 PM
Luv it!
kirkill on September 2, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Still a POS!
Dale in Atlanta on September 2, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Isn’t Joe also a heartbeat away from eternity? What will Obama do then?
el hombre on September 2, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Compare the media treatment of Biden to Palin. These people are scum.
D0WNT0WN on September 2, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Well played, Joe. Your only bet is to avoid the muck.
MadisonConservative on September 2, 2008 at 3:44 PM
The ONLY way Democrats win is because of the ignorant and gullible Americans voting for them. That’s really sad.
kirkill on September 2, 2008 at 3:45 PM
I agree tying Bush to McCain is a smart move. However, most of the Obama ads lately have just been about McCain and Bush. Isn’t the biggest obstacle for Sen. Obama is that he’s an unknown politician? Shouldn’t he also be doing ads defining himself?
terryannonline on September 2, 2008 at 3:45 PM
Undeservedly? I don’t think so, Biden should have know better than to go there. His big mouth just couldn’t resist. Everybody’s worried about Palin dropping the ball, I think Biden’s track record shows he’s the most likely to make a fumble.
Maxx on September 2, 2008 at 3:46 PM
I can’t open this link because “the protocol isn’t associated with any program”. What program would I need?
Buy Danish on September 2, 2008 at 3:46 PM
He doesn’t WE DO.
With money, kind words, and canvasing our circle.
sven10077 on September 2, 2008 at 3:47 PM
He said he was pretty to make a self-deprecating joke. What’s the big deal?
terryannonline on September 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Did anyone know that he is from Scranton, PA?
carbon_footprint on September 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM
realplayer worked here.
evenfarer on September 2, 2008 at 3:49 PM
The MSM is only into GOP rumors…Edwards wasn’t reported for a year, neither was Wright, and they’ll never report on the Larry Sinclair rumors.
JustTruth101 on September 2, 2008 at 3:49 PM
I’m not sure they’ll mention it, but I think they’re allowing people to watch the soap opera – because no one will want to miss Wednesday night’s episode. And that’s good for us.
capitalist piglet on September 2, 2008 at 3:49 PM
He can’t keep his mouth shut.
right2bright on September 2, 2008 at 3:50 PM
Gov Palin could take either one …
tarpon on September 2, 2008 at 3:50 PM
At least he called her a governor unlike Obama who was calling her a mayor
William Amos on September 2, 2008 at 3:52 PM
My impression is that Obama is too risk averse to define anything. Also, he might know that if he spoke frankly of his opinions and plans he would be seen as too far to the left to actually win the election.
evenfarer on September 2, 2008 at 3:52 PM
I agree tying Bush to McCain is a smart move. However, most of the Obama ads lately have just been about McCain and Bush. Isn’t the biggest obstacle for Sen. Obama is that he’s an unknown politician? Shouldn’t he also be doing ads defining himself?
terryannonline on September 2, 2008 at 3:45 PM
—–
Terry Ann,
I don’t expect being the “Anti-McCain” will work any better for Obama than being the “Anti-Obama” was working for McCain.
Can’t win playing defense, and while Obama has a lead and wants to defend it, McCain is busy moving the goalposts.
How does McCain/Palin win? They don’t. Obama loses.
Mew
acat on September 2, 2008 at 3:53 PM
That Obama is one smoooooth liar. Comes too natural.
marklmail on September 2, 2008 at 3:53 PM
the mccain camp has no answer for “more of the same”
they can talk about experience, judgement, etc etc…but when you’ve got the guy on tape saying “i voted with bush 90% of the time” how do you win?
ernesto on September 2, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Hasn’t Obama been complaining a lot about how McCain is spending so much time attacking Obama, and how McCain never tells us what he is for?
MarkTheGreat on September 2, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Team McCain’s rollout for Palin has been horrible. They should have made sure that people wouldn’t have found her to be a token. They have absolutely no control over there narrative.
Palin needs to go out there and bash Bush
“The major failure of the Bush administration is that he called America to consumption rather than sevice”
Then she needs to get a direct hit on Obama…
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_08_31-2008_09_06.shtml#1220243277
“Involuntary volunteerism is conscription”
Rebound
“If you don’t make yourself into a public good, then you’ll become a tool for the public servants.” (maybe not that red meat and hostile but something to that effect)
ninjapirate on September 2, 2008 at 3:54 PM
I’ve certainly tweaked AP for his pessimism any number of times, but I think it unfair of Russ to claim that AP just “gets off on creating controversy.” He was just as pessimistic when he wasn’t blogging and fwding news items to other sites (at least, the stories I saw were almost invariable of the “bad news” variety). I’m sure he’s aware that his tone generates traffic, but that’s just a bonus.
I note that Russ is “from Winterset.” If he lived in NYC, maybe he’d be more pessimistic, too.
Karl on September 2, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Whatever we do, don’t mention Biden’s daughter getting arrested.
It’s a private matter.
JammieWearingFool on September 2, 2008 at 3:56 PM
You could start by telling the truth.
Little things like most of that 90% were votes were on things like resolutions declaring National Brocolli Month.
When it mattered, McCain voted the same side as Bush less than half the time.
MarkTheGreat on September 2, 2008 at 3:57 PM
This “damning with faint praise” by Biden is what the media should be doing, too. Ironically, it would be more effective in marginalizing her. In their frenzied attempts to destroy her, they’ve badly overplayed their hand.
I can’t wait for the polls after Palin’s speech. Total meltdown!
Mr. Wednesday Night on September 2, 2008 at 3:59 PM
OHHHHHHHHHH BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Really, too much. I’m going to have to check my shorts after reading this gem. Ought to work that into a T-shirt somehow.
jaleach on September 2, 2008 at 4:00 PM
LOL @ Russ at Ace of Spades HQ
redrock on September 2, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Shouldn’t a Senator know something about the Governor of Alaska? I thought he was “experienced.”
Ronnie on September 2, 2008 at 4:00 PM
I have said it once before on this site and I will say it again. For those who are worried about how Palin will match up against Bidon don’t know that she has already faced a long time Senator. I wouldn’t count Frank Murkowski as a light weight nobody either. He served Alaska for many years in Washington. She not only handled her self well she won the nomination overwhelmingly. Then she faced a former Dem Gov. who while he was serving was popular as well. Now she governs Alaska with an 80% approval rating. So, maybe Bidon will be asking himself like the other poloticians who have faced her, “What just happened. Why did I loose?”
lwssdd on September 2, 2008 at 4:00 PM
He will appoint Jeremiah Wright to be VP and Tony Rezko to be Secratary of HUD once he is out of the slammer.
txdoc on September 2, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Was Plagiarism Joe giving his usual phony grin as he said this?
viking01 on September 2, 2008 at 4:01 PM
The big news on this clip is that Biden says Palin is “…qualified to be Vice President . . .” That’s the ad McCain’s camp can run right now.
JonPrichard on September 2, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Sorry for the cross-comment.
We are worried and I have an idea of how we can solve that.
I have done this already and it makes me feel so much better.
Go to http://www.johmccain.com.
On the right hand side you will “Join the Team”.
Sign up.
Do what you can do. Volunteer. Become a precinct captain.
Buy bumperstickers and/or yard signs.
Become involved. This is the most important election of our lifetime.
carbon_footprint on September 2, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Yeah. Still. EeyorePundit. That’s funny.
misterpeasea on September 2, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Joe Biden served in Scranton, PA.
Akzed on September 2, 2008 at 4:06 PM
I have absolutely no interest in what this worthless clown act has to say or what the other Jackass on the ticket, Junior has to say.
Both complete idiots. If Obambi manages to steal the election this fall, I’ll consider the position vacant – because it will be.
NoDonkey on September 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM
I think the tone of clip has more to do with the location, a retiree community, where dirty laundry would not be acceptable. Wait till Obiden gets up in front of the Kossacks. It’ll be a whole new conversation.
BobMbx on September 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Keep moving – nothing to see here.
Fuquay Steve on September 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Wasnt Biden properly vetted ?
William Amos on September 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM
I’m not sure if bashing Bush helps either. Aren’t you basically conceding to the Democrats that another Republican has no business in the WH? I think McCain can contrast himself from Bush but bashing I think will prove futile. Let’s face it if they debate is who is less like Bush, Obama is going to win hands down. I think it’s better for McCain just to get his ideas and his message out, instead getting into a argument with Obama over something he’s going to win anyway.
terryannonline on September 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Yes, he should. But when there’s nothing to define, you can’t the ad.
BobMbx on September 2, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Tranquilized and counseled version of der Gaffenmeister. Not to worry – there’s plenty of time. They just can’t help themselves.
Entelechy on September 2, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Does anybody know what forum the debate will be in?
The Biden Palin debate?
Who is holding it?
Rick007 on September 2, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Drats.
Should be “you can’t make the ad”.
BobMbx on September 2, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Nice try, JWF, but we all know that having teen sex is a graver offense than obstructing a police officer. And is more relevant.
misterpeasea on September 2, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Don’t we have Biden on tape saying something about McCain being a good presidential prospect?
Wouldn’t those two clips, back to back, make a grand commercial?
MarkTheGreat on September 2, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Obama says that he wants change. Hmmmm….
The sort of change wafted about in just about every presidential campaign (if you’re not the incumbent) is go after the other guy as an “insider”….
Hmmmm, once again….
Sooo…these folks now seem to all be kvetching on cue that Gov. Palin hasn’t got any experience…but they don’t want “insiders”….
…and you get experience by being “inside”….
…and Mr. O picked a running mate who himself became an “insider” when Mr. O was a callow 11-year-old….
I’m soooooo confused…I’ve all but got this whole “dialectic” thing figured out, and then they through me this curveball.
Is George Orwell on Obama’s payroll?
Puritan1648 on September 2, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Ditto. And America doesn’t Hate Bush half as much as the Left thinks we do.
misterpeasea on September 2, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Meanwhile Biden’s son and Brother are being sued for Fraud
William Amos on September 2, 2008 at 4:14 PM
They’re on fire over at Ace’s place:
The Huckster on Palin: “In fact I don’t know if you realize this but Sarah Palin got more votes running for mayor in Wasilla Alaska than Joe Biden did in 2 quest for the presidency that oughta tell you something…”
Man. I feel a strange sensation in my abdomen. It’s warm, and getting warmer.
OH MY GOD! I THINK I HAVE THE FIRE IN MY BELLY!
misterpeasea on September 2, 2008 at 4:18 PM
And make a donation.
Either give it to McCain/Palin now, or give it to Hussein Obama and the IRS next year if he wins!
txdoc on September 2, 2008 at 4:22 PM
I see what he’s doing. You know, maybe John McCain should start off every town hall with, “Associations with known terrorists should be off limits in our campaign against Barack Obama.” It’s the old bring-it-up-by-not-bringing-it-up trick.
Ronnie on September 2, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Either give it to McCain/Palin now, or
give it totry to get it back from Hussein Obama and the IRS next year if he wins!Fixed it.
BobMbx on September 2, 2008 at 4:28 PM
I guess if “it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. Yes the Dems are hanging themselves on this and other issues. I don’t think it shows lots of confidence to jump through hoops and do all the research to debunk, just because of an unsubstantiated accusation/rumor. Let the leftists do their own work and let it sit out there until they debunk their own rumors.
Obama didn’t jump through hoops on the birth certificate thing. He let the right make fools of themselves for a long time before someone debunked it. He’ll hold that ace in the hole until needed.
Make your accuser provide the evidence (as long as your “in the right”). In the meantime, ignore it. But after the fact McCain’s camp should be all over the media morons for their lies, each and every time. That’s what I haven’t seen.
nottakingsides on September 2, 2008 at 4:37 PM
give it to McCain/Palin nowBobMbx on September 2, 2008 at 4:28 PM
RNC.ORG
RushBaby on September 2, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Much obliged.
BobMbx on September 2, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Well, I was going to blog about this but decided to toss in my question in here. When Biden said that “Children are off limits” why did he say that? But I’ll probably have to rely on Occam’s Razor and it’s because doing so (attacking the children) will only continue to backfire big time against the O/B ticket. No? Or does it have to do with Palin’s support for abstinence before marriage education and that Biden at one time in his senatorial career also supported abstinence education, of which I believe, there was a bill to help pay for that about decade earlier? Can anyone confirm that one?
Kokonut on September 2, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Holy sh!t
McCain has a new ad up and you all are going to loooooove it.
Expensive Plans
rockmom on September 2, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Biden’s staff calls the Israeli’s liars.
Maxx on September 2, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Its obvious Biden and Obama aren’t going to touch the pregnant daughter story with a 10 foot pole. They will just let the Kos Kidz make fun of her and how weird the Palins are.
Speedwagon82 on September 2, 2008 at 5:09 PM
What nobody seems to have mentioned yet, is that Obama, when selecting a VP, chose someone strong in an effort to make up for his weaknesses. McCain, when selecting a VP, chose someone who doesn’t really add to any weakness (except maybe to social cons who didn’t believe him), he chose someone that looks a little thin resume-wise, showing that he doesn’t need a lot of help. Does this speak to their respective self-images?
Vashta.Nerada on September 2, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Easy.
1. With the exception of the minimum wage increase, all the domestic accomplishments that the Democrats are patting themselves on the back for passing were Bush initiatives.
2. Foreign policy- McCain proposed the surge, Bush took up the mantle, Obama opposed it… and now Anbar is turned over and we have a plan for troops to come home with victory. Everyone but Obama and MoveOn.org know that the surge worked.
3. McCain opposed Bush on all the issues people are pissed about, including Iraq. Face facts- almost everyone supporting going into Iraq, then rightfully called it for the mess that it was. McCain is the guy who called it first and lead the charge to successfully fix it.
4. Obama votes either down the party line or not at all. Period. Where is this CHANGE he speaks of? The one thing that he inevitably links CHANGE to is Bush policies… which are over in January even in Obama loses.
Damiano on September 2, 2008 at 5:19 PM
I like that you noted it was undeserved criticism, Allah. The reason why I frequent this site is because it is fair and intellectually honest.
AbaddonsReign on September 2, 2008 at 5:21 PM
All she needs to do is get udner his skin a little- like ask about his IQ, or from what school he grduated in the top ten percent.
Then just sit back.
drjohn on September 2, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Obama, Biden’s Son Linked by Earmarks
Chakra Hammer on September 2, 2008 at 5:27 PM
My Son, The Lobbyist: Biden’s Son a Well-Paid DC Insider
Chakra Hammer on September 2, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Maybe it’s me, but after watching the video, it looks (and sounds) as if Biden just twisted his words around and meant to compliment Palin by inferring that being Governor is no “small” feat.
Dang, I hate defending this dufus.
dugan on September 2, 2008 at 5:55 PM
From my quick review of Delaware vs Alaska, Delaware has an operating budget of about 4 billion dollars whereas Alaska’s is close to 8 Billion dollars (with nearly ten billion dollars in revenues) exclusive of the construction budgets of both states. Arkansas’ state budget is only 4.3 billion dollars today (imagine what it was when Billary were in charge of that state). Not bad Sarah.
eaglewingz08 on September 2, 2008 at 6:49 PM
There is a chance that US Senator Biden is showing a bit more respect towards the Governor of Alaska because someone, potentially the Governor of Delaware, reminded US Senator Biden that (the 100 US) Senators rank slightly below (the 50 State) Governors, due to:
– exclusivity (100 is less exclusive than 50)
– the reporting structure (Governors report only to the people of their state)
– the fact that when a US Senator leaves office (not due to retirement or an election reversal) it is the Governor of the state who may provide in interim replacement. Usually, the replacement is someone whit verifiable credentials.
Note: all of these things are usually taught in (or before) 8th grade, so this is more of a General Knowledge / Qualification for Office test than an IQ test.
Arbalest on September 2, 2008 at 7:02 PM
C’mon..knock it off. Facts will only confuse the issue for Ol’ Joe. And we don’t need Joe confused right now. We need him in tip-top, on his game, Joe “I can’t stop saying stupid things” Biden.
BobMbx on September 2, 2008 at 8:19 PM
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