Video: So, how’s the news about Palin’s daughter playing at the convention?
posted at 5:20 pm on September 1, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Newsday columnist and possible amateur Scalia impersonator Larry Levy weighs in. Just one man’s observation, but it’s precisely what I’d expect given the palpable jolt of enthusiasm she’s thrown into the GOP and grassroots conservatives. As for his take on how working-class women might react, Althouse made a similar point about judgmentalism earlier. Let’s hope they’re right. The clip’s short but very savvy. Click the image to watch.
Update: The media’s dying for this unconventional pick to explode in McCain’s face. They can taste it: “I covered the Dan Quayle campaign. Is there no sense of panic over the love child issue or is there a belief that it shows that she is like a lot of American families?”
Update: I linked this in the last thread but it works here too. Fred Thompson today in Minneapolis:
Pushed by NEWSWEEK’s reporters and editors to say whether having a pregnant teenage daughter and five-month-old baby with Down syndrome at home will raise questions about Palin’s “priorities,” Thompson responded by questioning the questioners. “Would you be saying that about man running for office in her shoes?” he asked. “I really think you’re going to be surprised at how average people and women who are not necessarily political one way or another identify with her. I see nothing in this that will hurt Sarah Palin politically. I mean, I get that it’s a necessary part of the process to ask those questions. But we have to keep it fair. If we don’t keep it fair, it will redound to her benefit.” Judging by the reaction in the room–“I look around this table all these angry men, and I can’t believe they’re even asking this question,” quipped one female NEWSWEEKer–I have a feeling he’s right. Saying a woman can’t pursue her professional goals AND care for her children at the same time is never a political winner–whether it’s conservatives or liberals wagging their fingers.
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Pro-Lifers may not be VIRGINS, but we sure as hell aren’t KILLERS.
seejanemom on September 1, 2008 at 5:22 PM
If the Palins are up to it and they approve I say we make them “Ca,elot2″ and push her family hard as the young new face of the GOP.
Make them media darlings.
sven10077 on September 1, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Makes her family EVEN MORE NORMAL, if you ask me.
I mean, at this point, what social issue HASN’T Palin dealt with personally.
**nonstory**
seejanemom on September 1, 2008 at 5:23 PM
What a sharp clip.
Oh, and CONGRATULATIONS AP on another depressing post!
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2008 at 5:24 PM
This is only a CONSERVATIVE problem if they found out she had taken some puddle jumper into Canada for a quikie D&C without her parents permission.
seejanemom on September 1, 2008 at 5:25 PM
To repeat the LIBERAL MEME:
“This is a PERSONAL, PRIVATE, FAMILY issue. No comment”
seejanemom on September 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Authentic
Kini on September 1, 2008 at 5:28 PM
That clear liquor is doing wonders for AP – isn’t it.
FiveWays on September 1, 2008 at 5:28 PM
In other words, we be lovers … life, babies and hott chicks that spear their own bison, cut it up in chunks, sear it over an open fire and never ever let us forget we are men …
Thank you God for letting me live to see this day.
Benjamin9 on September 1, 2008 at 5:29 PM
lol, maybe so.
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Bold Prediction Alert:
Palin will be the tipping point for the Left.
Their attacks on her will have a backlash with the undecideds and the working moms.
THERE
Let the nay-sayers feast on me!
FiveWays on September 1, 2008 at 5:30 PM
The left will still whip this horse until the flesh is gone, the bones are dust and the whip itself is a frayed length of thread.
I don’t believe they understand that conservatives aren’t the Bible-banging monolith, ready to stone the nearest female who isn’t wearing a chastity belt, group of people they think we are.
Bishop on September 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM
FWIW – At the announcement, Bristol was wearing a ring on her left hand ring finger – perhaps an engagement ring? If so, then her condition wasn’t as much of a “secret” as “some” have been suggesting.
SouthernRoots on September 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Palin as American as you can get.
Hunts
Fishes
Runs Marathons
Rides 4-wheelers and snowmobiles
Has 5 kids!
Her Husband is the 4 time champion of the 2000mile IronDog snowmobile race.
Chakra Hammer on September 1, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Leave the NON-STORY and the non-candidate alone.
Seejanemom’s on target.
Unless you’re pimping yourself as a gossip columnist, explicate serious matters.
Country First, what’s happening…
maverick muse on September 1, 2008 at 5:33 PM
At least they admit the child is hers. As to what’s his name (Edwards) who insists his sperms are bad swimmers and can’t possibly be that baby’s father. Talking about taking responsibility.
poxoma on September 1, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Haha, I can see Bedard salivating at the thought. Sorry pal, no dice.
m064404 on September 1, 2008 at 5:35 PM
It’s a good turn of events. It helps McCain appeal to the white trash voting block. Once again you can see why Palin is a brilliant pick politically.
bayam on September 1, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Triple backspin! NICELY DONE! ;)
seejanemom on September 1, 2008 at 5:36 PM
They’re looking at the wrong demographics. Palin’s extreme anti-abortion stance (she once stated in a debate that she herself would “choose life” fer her daughter if her daugter were raped) and her membership in Feminists for Life (OK with some birth control, but not “abortifacient” birth control – i.e. the pill) will make a lot of moderates (especially moderate women) reeeeeaaaly question whether they want to give her the tiebreaking vote in the Senate, not to mention putting her a heartbeat away from the presidency.
Remember – I told you guys that abortion would be an issue in this campaign, and not to the GOP’s advantage.
Big S on September 1, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Lol. Yesterday it’s $500 shoes and how many houses. And today it’s white trash.
don’t worry, I’m sure Sarah drinks Starbucks too.
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2008 at 5:36 PM
bayam, drop the racism.
maverick muse on September 1, 2008 at 5:37 PM
That other America is Edwards America. One of no personal responsibility.
Kini on September 1, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Or, as some kooks on DKos called it, “a married to geebus” ring. You just have to laugh. My fear is for Bristol’s and the rest of the family’s emotional health. I can’t imagine how much you’d feel like a bug-in-a-jar. I’m sure Gov.Palin had their permission and blessing, but oh, I hope and pray they have ducks’ backs. We love you, Palins!
hoosiermama on September 1, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Bishop, good point, but just for accuracy’s sake, here up north we don’t call it whipping a dead horse, we say clubbing a dead baby seal.
AdrianG on September 1, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Blame me. I’m the one who recommended Everclear. Sorry.
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 5:38 PM
So if her daughter was not sure who the daddy was and was getting in line for her welfare check the DNC would love her and say hands off all the while putting their hands further and further into my purse? When I saw this it broke my heart for the turmoil she and the entire family is going to go through.
PiggieSez on September 1, 2008 at 5:38 PM
…you mean the CLASSism the LIBS love to dabble in.
And while maverick is askin’….drop DEAD, too, bayam.
seejanemom on September 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Amen, Benjamin. Rush was right: “Babies, guns and Jesus.”
Our women are hot, our babies are plentiful, our guns are loaded and Jesus is Lord. Oh, man, it doesn’t get better than this.
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Kids and wives and husbands are out of bounds. No matter how scurrilous her parents, Chelsea Clinton was NEVER political fodder during the Clinton years. Palin’s family deserves to keep family private.
Doug on September 1, 2008 at 5:42 PM
This isn’t the 1950s teenage girls don’t go visit an Aunt for 9 months then come home. Really The Kossacks are watching what kind of movies exactly it is 2008. These must be really old hippies that are posting on Kos you know they were teenagers in the 50s and this is what would have happened when they were younger the baby would be hidden somehow then passed off as a sister. Nevermind the math doesn’t work and that the baby is a special needs baby god bless baby trig. This happens with women, when they have babys when they are older.
So this tells us something of the average age of the people who post on Kos, they are in their 60s, and they have some kind of repressed attitude about women’s reproduction.
Dr Evil on September 1, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Uncalled for.
conservnut on September 1, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Anyone remember Rosemary Kennedy? She was the retarded sister of JFK that they hid from society. She was given a lobotomy at the age of 23 (possibly the first in the US) and made to live in institutions around the country under Joseph Kennedy’s orders. So, while the Dems hide their special children, Palin is leading the way and embracing her own in the public, through thick and thin.
Way to go Sarah-cuda!!!
cannonball on September 1, 2008 at 5:43 PM
she is America’s Mom/Sister/Sweetheart Sarah Palin will be a media darling if any of the corporate media get past their Donk alliance and push her to the nines for financial gain.
sven10077 on September 1, 2008 at 5:44 PM
It’s a good turn of events. It helps McCain appeal to the white trash voting block. Once again you can see why Palin is a brilliant pick politically. – bayam on September 1, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Then, perhaps, Barack should consider voting for McCain.
The Messiah was born of a single, white, teenage woman – and I’m not referring to Jesus.
Do you really want to go down this path?
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Big Ass claims to speak for a lot of moderates, especially moderate women who of course all think in conformity with the Big Ass.
Most moderates think for themselves and not for others.
Most moderates realize that teenagers act impulsively by nature.
Most moderates know not to cast the first stone as moderates realize that no one is perfect.
maverick muse on September 1, 2008 at 5:44 PM
On the contrary- I’d like to shake your hand!
Numb looks good on AP.
Job well done Manly!
FiveWays on September 1, 2008 at 5:45 PM
They can’t help themselves. They would have gone overboard in their attacks anyway, but Gov Palin is drawing out the worst in them.
doubleplusundead on September 1, 2008 at 5:45 PM
The more I see of the Palins the more I am impressed. My biggest hope is for this to blow over quickly so as cause as little pain and emotion to the family as possible.
Don’t ya just love the different standards the two sides are held to?
Also isn’t it “coincidental” all the things that are happening now that are comming up good for us on the right? By that I mean (being one of those “Jesus” people), I’ll bet the Almighty is grinning and thinking “isn’t it great when a plan comes together!”
Duane1947 on September 1, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Dude, believe me, I treasure the few Palin-skeptic commenters we have; you’re my only allies left. But you’re bringing even me down with the relentless naysaying.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Hold on, Republicans are allowed to proclaim Clinton unfit to hold office because the behavior of our executives sets an example for the rest of the country… but Palin gets a free ticket? I don’t see how teenage pregnancy- especially high school pregnancy- represents the values of this country or exemplary parenting. It certainly doesn’t represent my brand of family values.
Let me restate Palin’s appeal to white trash voters- I should have been more sensitive and described those individuals as lower income whites who appreciate a trailer based lifestyle.
bayam on September 1, 2008 at 5:47 PM
I suspect the turmoil is more yours than theirs, Peggy. To them, this is a precious new life that will come into the world for them. No more a burden for Bristol than Trig was for Sarah. To them, children are a blessing.
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 5:48 PM
The media anal exam of the Palin family was expected.
Joe Biden is nominated for Dem VP.
Where is Joe Biden’s media anal exam?
Who the hell is Joe Biden?
All I know is he’s a blowhard Senator from NJ.
How many kids does he have?
What’s his family up to?
miketheman on September 1, 2008 at 5:48 PM
bayam:
Snob.
Terrye on September 1, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Remember – I told you guys that abortion would be an issue in this campaign, and not to the GOP’s advantage.
Big S on September 1, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Another stupid clueless post.
Thanks again..
And if Barry O’s mom had followed his sage advice, he would have been flushed down a nasty hospital drain instead of being so full of fabulousness that the Libs held a huge Nuremberg Rally for him last week.. no wonder he’s backpedaling like Lance Armstrong.
TexasJew on September 1, 2008 at 5:51 PM
I heard the news and my gut reaction was, “so what-she at least didn’t kill the baby”. The left’s reaction at what is an everyday story to alot of us, and the fact that she has a ring on her finger, is breathtaking. They’re eating themselves from within, here.
It’s not like Cheney’s gay daughter mattered one damn bit in the election, despite ahole Gore bringing it up during the debate, did it?
The only scandal here is if she aborted the baby. Now let’s talk about Tony Rezko, the actual FELON in this election, mmkay, driveby media?
hippie_chucker on September 1, 2008 at 5:51 PM
If the Palins are up to it and they approve I say we make them “Ca,elot2″ and push her family hard as the young new face of the GOP.
Make them media darlings.
sven10077 on September 1, 2008 at 5:23 PM
I agree. McCain made a mistake in backpedaling on the house non-issue and essentially apologizing. That gave credibility to any issue that was irrelevant, other than demonstrating that he and his family manage their money extremely well.
Turn the tables. Go out and be proud of it. Open the doors wide and let the hurricane winds spawned from the fresh desert air in AZ and the unblemished wilderness of AK flood Washington.
Ladies and gentlemen, this in the uncensored reality of what America really is. Real families creating real successes and achieving real results in their lives, communities, states and their nation. This is not speeches and rhetoric. This is not a multimedia presentation that thinly masks old school politics, corruption and hateful opinions. This is REAL CHANGE that is demanding to reform Washington and that is bolstered by track record of comparable and success from the lowest levels of government to the highest levels.
This is the Republican party of 2008. We are no longer a bad of old white guys. We have never been a political legacy built solely on family wealth, political expediency or by clinging to the accomplishments of others who were greater than ourselves.
This is really the Change We Need.
Damiano on September 1, 2008 at 5:51 PM
AP, you missed Obama’s reaction. To quote in part:
What is rich about this is, as always, it’s all about Obama. An attack on Palin’s daughter is an attack on him, because of his life experience. What if his mother HADN’T had him at 18. Who knows what his narrative would be then. But, given his life, this is outrageous! This is just so, so typical of him. My mouth is agape.
He’s narcissistic to the core. It’s not hard to see. It’s right there in front of our faces.
Paul-Cincy on September 1, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Yeah that bayam is a power to the people kind of guy. As long as the people don’t get too close, after all they stink.
I liked this from Jeff at protein wisdom:
That the Palin family — by dint of ugly rumor mongering from “progressive activists” and a compliant left-leaning press that was cynically situating itself to pretend that these rumors “needed investigating” — was all but compelled to release information about their teenage daughter, is precisely the kind of thing that drives real civil libertarians and privacy advocates crazy, especially because the information has nothing whatever to do with Governor Palin’s candidacy, but instead invades the privacy (and quite possibly affects the “choice”) of a minor.
This kind of savage smear campaign by leftists and so-called “feminists” — a campaign that forced a young woman to make public a very private matter in order to stop vicious rumors about the Palin family — suggests that, when it comes to “privacy concerns” (NSA data mining for terrorists = bad; demanding the release of a Governor’s medical records = good; parental notification for abortions performed on women under a certain age = bad; insisting that the world be privy to the private sexual and family concerns of the seventeen-year-old daughter of a conservative = good), “progressives” care about such things only insofar as it protects their political interests and advances their political agenda.
The left, as it has now been shown in one of the ugliest incidences of McCarthyite bullying I can remember, has no core belief in privacy, or even an investment in actual “choice” for women — unless the woman in question falls in line with their particular orthodoxies, that is. Anyone else is an “anti-woman” woman, and as such is subject to public exposure and ridicule.
The ironic thing is, Bristol Palin’s political beliefs aren’t even known, beyond (I assume) her support for her mother. But hey: all is fair in love and war, and suddenly, the progressive left seems quite unconcerned with “collateral damage” and “the children!™
Hopefully, any real feminist — not the kinds of second wave “establishment feminists” who have eschewed the end game of equality for the politically charged power politics of identity group activism and grievance pimping — will be so appalled by what has transpired over the last several days that they will run screaming from the “enlightened” base of the Democratic party: totalitarian “progressives” who have devoured Alinsky like he was a particularly plump and inviting veggie burger.
They are what they pretend to despise. And in the quiet moments between attacks, I suspect many of them recognize this, and secretly curse what it is they’ve become.
****
Terrye on September 1, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Doug @ 5:42
It wasn’t just Daddy hosting that sort of sleep-over in the Clinton White House. But again, that’s THEIR family business as we all let Chelsea become the young woman that the Bush twins admired.
maverick muse on September 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Sorry to be such a downer. There are a few more things coming down the pike (Ugh!), but I guess I’ll wait to say anything about them.
Big S on September 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Gee is Obama’s mother white trash? I had not thought so, but if bayam says so…I guess it must be true.
Terrye on September 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Ah yes ANOTHER wise sage (WHO IS NOT A TROLL) to quell all this silly excitement….
You know- of all the Right-Wing blogs I’ve been on- this is either the most pragmatic site by way of abstract negativism-
Or- it’s the most Kos Kid infested blog of them all.
Ain’t camouflage a wondrous thang?
FiveWays on September 1, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Bayam,
You’re a jackass. Just because you have a problem with people who are of the less economic means doesn’t mean they aren’t allowed to vote. Unless, of course, you think that economics should determine whether or not someone is allowed to vote.
mjk on September 1, 2008 at 5:53 PM
I don’t know about the Republican Convention, but Amanda Marcotte is SO predictable. Funny how it was “none of our business” when Edwards’ affair was in the headlines, but now that it’s Palin’s daughter, all of a sudden, it’s everyone’s business again.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on September 1, 2008 at 5:53 PM
The real issue here is the brain dead press that spends hours of air time ranting about an impulsive act of a teen age woman, that in the final analysis, is doing the right and honorable thing by keeping the baby and marrying the father. This poor sick, society really needs to get its act together.
rplat on September 1, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Have another drink AP!
FiveWays on September 1, 2008 at 5:54 PM
They should put up a website- moderated of course so people can leave their well wishes for the upcoming baby, and grandchild this is a wonderful event. This should be celebrated it’s a new life. Why not put up a registry and send the gifts- donations to a charity for familys who need help with their new babys. From what I have seen of the Palins, I am sure their grand child, will be well taken care of it would be nice to let their supporters express their well wishes, for the new baby. I would send a gift to a charity in the name of baby Trig and his new niece or nephew.
Ignore the nonsense, and do what they would be doing naturally, getting ready for a baby.
Dr Evil on September 1, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Sarah Palin – America’s Hottest Governor
Sarah Palin – America’s Hottest VP
Sarah Palin – America’s Hottest Grandma!
Good luck to the Palin family – McCain/Palin ‘08!
PatMac on September 1, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Eh, in all fairness, I do recall a few snide comments from Conservatives about Chelsea’s “appearance” making their way into the media, but I have never seen such eagerness to get the other guy until now.
The press (as well as Team Obama, the Kos kids, etc) will try so hard to find a way to spin this that isn’t sleazy, totally out-of-bounds, or sexist.
But, at the end of the day, Bristol is almost a legal adult, keeping the child, and marrying the father. Her parents are proud to be grandparents and the family is supporting her daughter 100%. Isn’t that exactly what a family with Conservative values would do?
I dare the MSM to try and turn this into something it isn’t. Because once they do, the rest of America will see them for what they are – biased, disgusting, and completely vapid of any self respect.
flyawaybird on September 1, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Dedicated to AP and his new-found clear-liquid optimism:
Hello.
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone home?
Come on, now.
I hear youre feeling down.
Well I can ease your pain,
Get you on your feet again.
Relax.
I need some information first.
Just the basic facts:
Can you show me where it hurts?
There is no pain, you are receding.
A distant ships smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I cant hear what youre sayin.
When I was a child I had a fever.
My hands felt just like two balloons.
Now I got that feeling once again.
I cant explain, you would not understand.
This is not how I am.
I have become comfortably numb.
Ok.
Just a little pinprick. [ping]
Therell be no more –aaaaaahhhhh!
But you may feel a little sick.
Can you stand up?
I do believe its working. good.
Thatll keep you going for the show.
Come on its time to go.
There is no pain, you are receding.
A distant ships smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I cant hear what youre sayin.
When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse,
Out of the corner of my eye.
I turned to look but it was gone.
I cannot put my finger on it now.
The child is grown, the dream is gone.
I have become comfortably numb.
-Pink Floyd
FiveWays on September 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Hey, idiot, Palin’s 17 year old daughter ain’t running for office. Clinton was. Clinton was having sex with all sorts of vaginas. Clinton was lying about having sex with all sorts of women. Clinton was lying about all sorts of things. So maybe Republicans pointed to Clinton’s egregious behavior as a question of his ability to lead, but let’s face facts: he was acting like a 15 year old man-ho. And his judgement to lead was terrible.
Again, the 17 year old’s decisions are her own. Believe it or not, 17 year olds are capable of making decisions themselves. Not because their mom said so.
mjk on September 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Jeff @ Protein Wisdom
+1
It bears witnessing that those who cry “No Torture under any circumstance” are the same who indiscriminately torment those who need help.
MOST MODERATES ARE APPALLED AT THE CRUEL TORMENT THAT LEFTISTS INFLICT UPON THOSE AMONG US WHO ARE NOT THEMSELVES RUNNING FOR PUBLIC OFFICE.
maverick muse on September 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM
When I saw this it broke my heart for the turmoil she and the entire family is going to go through. – PiggieSez on September 1, 2008 at 5:38 PM
I suspect the turmoil is more yours than theirs, Peggy. To them, this is a precious new life that will come into the world for them. No more a burden for Bristol than Trig was for Sarah. To them, children are a blessing.
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Well when I stated turmoil I meant the mocking by the media perhaps I should have made myself clear..further more no need to get snippy I fully understand that life is precious hence I will never have an abortion or kill my baby.. so carry on..
PiggieSez on September 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Then Barry O is unfit for office because he used hard drugs and that sets a bad example for teens
William Amos on September 1, 2008 at 5:58 PM
You are a snobbish, pompous ass.
rplat on September 1, 2008 at 5:58 PM
This guy bayspam is a creep. But hopefully, Obambi’s other supporters will react the same way he has, and cost their candidate even more women’s votes.
james23 on September 1, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Leave it to a lib to try to make a comparison like that. Sure, the chief executive getting a BJ under the oval office desk is the same as having a daughter make a mistake.
You’re a real winner dude! I submit to your obvious overwhelming debate skills!!!
conservnut on September 1, 2008 at 5:59 PM
Clinton used an intern for a humidor and then committed perjury when answering to that fact.
Bristol Palin – who is NOT running for office – does the horizontal mambo with her fiance (Oh, God, the horror…teens have sex and get pregnant! who’da thunk it?) and now bulges with the fruit of her passion.
And, somehow, you manage to conflate the two. Not only that, but you invoke the awful spectre of (gasp) “trailer folk” – in an age when people like you celebrate the very same occurrence in Hollywood.
You are pitiful. And loathesome.
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 5:59 PM
Um. Did anyone understand what Levy said.
Dang that accent!
davidk on September 1, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Snort !! A bit off topic.. watching Anthony Bourdain on Travel Channel, channels started flicking to show the MN delegates at the convention. Spouse changed channels four or five times, all Comcast was showing on all channels we tried was acceptance of McCain’s nomination. Snicker. It flicked back after about two minutes, found it highly amusing though… :)
grasshopper68 on September 1, 2008 at 6:00 PM
bayqam:
There is a helluva difference between Clinton getting a BJ in the Oval Office from an intern and the 17 year old daughter of a candidate getting pregnant.
sheesh. You can not be that dense.
Terrye on September 1, 2008 at 6:00 PM
I have never seen more hard left Democrats become more afraid, more quickly, than in the past few days. Ever.
JudetheFossil on September 1, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Bristol did not put her hand on a bible and make any promises to anyone. Bristol did not lie to the country.
I did not support the impeachment of Clinton, I thought it went way too far, but to compare President Bill Clinton to this young woman is just stupid.
Terrye on September 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Sorry to be such a downer. There are a few more things coming down the pike (Ugh!), but I guess I’ll wait to say anything about them.
Big S on September 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Cue the scary music.
Bishop on September 1, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Big S:
Not all women are one issue voters. And most people think that Republicans are more likely to not support abortion. So, it is not a shocker to women that Palin is pro life, it has nothing to do with this.
Terrye on September 1, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under federal oath that he did not have sexual relations with that woman. His defense explanation:
1. It depends on what is is.
2. I did it because I could.
No one but that type of manipulating, bullying, abusive and predatory liar deserves to be called denigrating slurs. Bill was impeached. Even Nixon had enough “honor” to resign rather than face impeachment!
maverick muse on September 1, 2008 at 6:03 PM
I’m not a Republican elitist and don’t believe that the wealthy represent a special class that should be given massive tax breaks when the only result is making the rich richer. The collapse of the real estate market has made it clear that there hasn’t been any kind of miracle behind the economy. The only outcome is a massive deficit and greater dependency on our lenders in China and the Middle East. So don’t accuse me of voting for policies that give Bush’s country club friends a free tax ride.
The real issue, from what I recall during Clinton’s tenure- is whether Palin represents good values and character.
bayam on September 1, 2008 at 6:04 PM
Well done, Terrye. Well done. Thank you.
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 6:05 PM
Hold on, Republicans are allowed to proclaim Clinton unfit to hold office because the behavior of our executives sets an example for the rest of the country… but Palin gets a free ticket?
bayam on September 1, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Clinton lied about his actions and he did so after taking the oath of Presidential office.
Bishop on September 1, 2008 at 6:05 PM
bayam,
I know you’re just trolling and that you realize that you can’t compare what one president did with what a vice-presidential candidate’s daughter did, but I figured I’d mention it.
The young lady made her decision and decided to take responsibility for the results of that decision. Her mom was there for her with support and encouragement to do the right thing. This is how real families really work.
It’s funny that the pregnancy has apparently been an open secret for people that know the family and Bristols friends and schoolmates, but never made much of a stir in Alaska. That just shows you the difference between Alaskans and the average liberal.
Immolate on September 1, 2008 at 6:05 PM
I also expect that there are a whole lot of women out there that are pro-life and not big voters. That will be energized by the Palin pick and show up to vote.
conservnut on September 1, 2008 at 6:06 PM
When people have sex before marriage, THAT is a choice.
When they get pregnant as a result, YOU DON’T HAVE a choice but to let that baby live.
It is the baby’s OWN life, and we don’t take it.
I applaud this family. THAT is courage.
Courage to admit that you are wrong but you are not going to “make it right” by another wrong.
maynila on September 1, 2008 at 6:06 PM
Thanks for taking a time-out from your Daily Kos/HuffPo blogging to keep us informed.
Scurry along now………..
FiveWays on September 1, 2008 at 6:06 PM
bayam is as adept at analogies as most liberals. To compare this situation to Bill Clinton’s tryst with an intern in the Oval Office? That’s the same to you? Are you really that pathetically stupid?
Mini14 on September 1, 2008 at 6:06 PM
No, please tell. Better that we know now.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2008 at 6:07 PM
heh. My golden retriever says:
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 6:07 PM
I just want to know if you think there is or was a better VP option?
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2008 at 6:08 PM
QFT. The only way to effectively confront the Palin nomination is to respect her life experience, to treat her as a human being, and only then attack her suitability for the office. And for the most part they can’t do that. It’s not in them. Is it because they must always operate in the realm of identity politics? This must be so hard for them. If they want to make this about identity politics, they will lose!
Paul-Cincy on September 1, 2008 at 6:09 PM
POP! Just took the cork out of my bottle of 21 year old Macallan’s.
Ahhhhhh…..amber goodness……
FiveWays on September 1, 2008 at 6:10 PM
………. funny!
Spot on Terrye, which accounts for all their vile attacks, knee jerk hatred, and bomb throwing insults instead of intelligent debate.
……… I imagine them slithering along the floor, leaving a stench filled trail of liberal ooze behind, hiding from the light, jagged teeth, blood shot eyes, pale clammy skin, snarling, snapping wildly in the air and at each other, screehing and squealing like stuck pigs.
Seven Percent Solution on September 1, 2008 at 6:10 PM
The rich suck-check.
Real estate problem caused by bad economy-check.
China is going to take over the world-check.
Country club Republicans-check.
Elitist-check.
Economy dying-check.
All you missed were “big oil”, “Cheney weather machine” and “Bush caused 911″. Please review and resubmit.
Bishop on September 1, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Expecting Obama to stand up to Kos is as silly as expecting him to stand up to Iran. He’ll do what he’s always done, talk a lot but take no action.
JohnJ on September 1, 2008 at 6:10 PM
If Big S is right about more scandal to come, then yeah, there were plenty better. Pawlenty brings nothing to the ticket but he doesn’t lose anything either.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Typical cliched liberal Democrat hack. *YAWN*
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 6:10 PM
What does a tornado and a redneck have in common?
Sooner or later they both end up in a trailer park.
How’s a tornado and a redneck divorce alike?
Someboy’s gonna lose a trailer.
Barnyar–um, Bayammer, you don’t know how little we care what you think.
davidk on September 1, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Well done.
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Sorry to be such a downer. There are a few more things coming down the pike (Ugh!), but I guess I’ll wait to say anything about them.
Big S on September 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM
That’s OK, We don’t need to know about your latest endoscopy results.. your depressing posts are bad enough.
TexasJew on September 1, 2008 at 6:11 PM
If a lib gets in your face about this, simply look them in the eye and ask, “So, what’s your problem?”
Let them just try to get on a moral high horse about it. Let them just try. Be ready to duck. The cognitive dissonance will likely make their head explode.
By the way, Sarah Palin doesn’t use a night light because she’s afraid of the dark. She uses it because the dark is afraid of Sarah Palin.
CurtZHP on September 1, 2008 at 6:12 PM
And by the way Big S, don’t keep us in suspense…pray tell us, what is coming down the pike.
Terrye on September 1, 2008 at 6:13 PM
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