Reports: McCain camp only starting to fully vet Palin now? Update: 25 people vetted her, says Team McCain
posted at 8:05 pm on September 1, 2008 by Allahpundit
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True or not? I’ll give you the “facts” as I’ve collected them and let you decide for yourself.
1. A guy named Andrew Halcro claimed this morning that eight people from Team McCain are checked into the local hotel in Wasilla and are poring through records. Who’s Halcro? He’s the independent who lost the gubernatorial race to her two years ago, and who was quoted sneering at her inability to articulate coherent policies in this weekend’s NYT. Not worth believing, right?
2. Wrong. ABC and NBC are also reporting that McCain’s people are on their way up there to try to beat the press to any hidden dirt.
3. Marc Ambinder claims to know from sources inside the McCain campaign that they’ve already been blindsided by the fact that she requested earmarks as mayor of Wasilla, that she supports a windfall profits tax, and that she doesn’t believe in man-made global warming. I’m skeptical about the last two; her positions are easily researchable on Google, as is the fact that she initially supported the bridge to nowhere. But like I asked this morning, if they knew about the bridge reversal, why’d they let her tout it on Friday knowing that it’d end up being gotcha’d?
4. Rick Davis, McCain’s campaign manager, told WaPo this weekend that none of the final VP contenders were vetted more or less than the others and that all of them were subjected to a records review and FBI background check. Minor problem: The FBI says it didn’t do a background check on Palin (or on any other candidate, for that matter). Maybe Davis meant a background check equivalent to what the FBI routinely does for government employees?
5. Mark Halperin’s asking a lot of unanswered questions here that make it sound like he already knows, or has reason to know, the answer to each one is “no.”
Maybe McCain does know all the dirt already, like he apparently knew about Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy, and simply decided the upside was worth the risk. Or maybe he decided that since he was gambling the election by picking someone so inexperienced anyway, they might as well cut corners on the vetting on the assumption that there’s only so much trouble a hockey mom could have gotten herself into. I don’t think the public is so process-oriented that they’ll draw any sharp conclusions about his judgment in not fully vetting her; I think the risk is that she’ll die a death of a thousand cuts as the media exposes and then inflates a bunch of exceedingly venial sins (the Troopergate investigation being a notable exception), incorporating them into a larger narrative about how America can’t take a chance on a VP who might have outstanding parking tickets that no one even knows about. The point, in other words, isn’t to prove that she’s evil or corrupt, which she almost certainly isn’t; it’s simply to grasp at all available straws, no matter how short, and bundle them together in an “unknown quantity” narrative so that she’s perpetually on the defensive about such important matters as why she didn’t oppose the bridge to nowhere early enough. It’s the best possible contrast for Biden, too. Love him or loathe him, he’s been in D.C. since the Mesozoic Era. WYSIWYG. But Sarah Palin — did you know she served on the board of a 527 for Ted Stevens three years ago? Why, I’ll bet Joe Biden’s never even spoken to Ted Stevens.
Here’s the newest tidbit, straight out of the chute from ABC about a party Palin quit 12 years ago. Expect to hear the name “Robert Byrd” invoked tomorrow in the context of youthful political indiscretions subsequently forgiven by our progressive superiors. Exit question: Assuming, hypothetically, that I wanted to stop sniffing glue, this would be the wrong week for it, no?
Update: Politico puts it in perspective. The “ordinary gal” forcefield is a powerful shield indeed:
“Authenticity is the most important characteristic for someone seeking public office,” said Nick Ayers, executive director of the Republican Governors Association. “Any news that comes out about her is not going to hurt her because it reinforces the point that she is authentically one of us.”…
Even the governor’s own Troopergate scandal, in which Palin is alleged to have exerted undue pressure to fire a state trooper, is suffused with an element that many families can identify with: one sister stepping in on behalf of another in an acrimonious dispute with a brother-in-law.
Powerful media organizations are beginning to pour resources into this story, so much more damaging twists and turns may await. But assuming the accusations don’t grow more serious, it is of a considerably different nature as an abuse of power than the last Troopergate scandal to rock the political world — the one in which Bill Clinton was alleged to use his state troopers in Arkansas to procure women as sex partners. That wouldn’t excuse Palin’s actions, of course, but it would frame them in such a way that could limit the political damage.
Update: Team Maverick tries to soothe a jumpy blogger’s fraying nerves.
Steve Schmidt, a senior adviser, said the campaign always planned to send a “jump team” to the eventual running mate’s home state to work with the nominee’s staff, help with information requests from local and national reporters, and answer questions about documents that were part of the review.
Culvahouse said Palin’s review, like others, began with a team of two dozen people culling information from public sources. The team reviewed speeches, financial records, tax information, litigation, investigations, ethical charges, marriages and divorces, for a number of potential running mates.
For Palin specifically, the team studied online archives of the state’s largest newspapers, including the Anchorage Daily News, but didn’t request paper archives for Palin’s hometown newspaper for fear the secret review would become public…
Palin then was sent a personal data questionnaire with 70 “very intrusive” questions, Culvahouse said. She also was asked to submit a number of years of federal and state tax returns. The campaign also checked her credit.
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Roger Waters on September 2, 2008 at 1:09 AM
congrats on one of the most sexist posts of the day. ifgures it comes form an obama supporter
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 1:13 AM
lol. There’s 10 million reasons that isn’t going to happen.
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 1:15 AM
I’m still voting for McCain becuase I suspect by the end of the week Palin will be off the ticket.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 1:13 AM
If Palin is off the ticket I stay home. If you can not see the 180 degree difference between BHO and Palin then you need some glasses.
I look at McCain as a needed bridge to bring the Reagan dream back from the Bush neocon country club brats.
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 1:16 AM
I suspect and predict Mitt will be in place a wwk from now…
Palin was a Ron Paul supporter which doesn’t sit right with many of us I suspect?
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 1:16 AM
Link it, Holmes or stop the slander. The whole she hearts Buchanan is already out.
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 1:17 AM
Someone who flirted with the AIP >>> Ted Stevens = Duke Cunningham = all the other RINO snakes in the grass out to line their own pockets.
silverfox on September 2, 2008 at 1:18 AM
I’m still voting for McCain becuase I suspect by the end of the week Palin will be off the ticket.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 1:13 AM
Because her engaged 17 year old daughter’s pregnant?
This whole thing is orchestrated by the Obama campaign, their MSM hacks and the Soros machine because they are scared shitless by Palin.
Don’t you think they have a warehouse of crap on Romney and Pawlenty ready to go?
TexasJew on September 2, 2008 at 1:20 AM
Obama’s judgement isnt any worse than this. I think I am voting for Obama.
Roger Waters on September 2, 2008 at 1:09 AM
I know that you WERE going to vote for Obama anyway.
Barry’s scared shitless of Palin, isn’t he?
TexasJew on September 2, 2008 at 1:23 AM
Palin was a Ron Paul supporter which doesn’t sit right with many of us I suspect?
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 1:16 AM
Prove it with an article or a link. This false rumors are painting your side as idiots…
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 1:24 AM
Anybody who hopes Palin is off the ticket in a week is NOT a McCain supporter.
Loxodonta on September 2, 2008 at 1:25 AM
fight the lies:
http://minx.cc/?post=272174
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 1:25 AM
Wed comes and Palin delivers a speech that makes BHO’s looks like a high school debating teams closing arguments.
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 1:26 AM
DU says they succeeded in defining Sarah Palin this weekend. Judging from some of these posts, I guess they’re right. They believe they destroyed her, and they are delighted about it. They pretend to be concerned about her daughter, but they have no intention of staying out of the young woman’s business – now they’re going after her fiance. They are predicting Governor Palin will be forced to withdraw…and I think, with that, we definitely lose the election…and it isn’t even October yet.
This is just lovely.
As an aside, I find it amazing how some men can sound wimpy and like grunting sexist pigs at the same time.
capitalist piglet on September 2, 2008 at 1:29 AM
Actually TexasJew, although I dont post here as often as you, my strong support for Mitt Romney is well established on this blog.
Sorry, But as nice as this lady is…she didnt even know “under God” was put in the pledge well late after the founding fathers were gone…I knew that in 3rd grade.
The only thing she has going for her is she is socially conservative and she is a 2-3 year governor…and thats it??? This reminds me of GW Bush and Harriet Myers.
This proves McCain is not going to work. His last 10 years he has been bucking conservative trends and this decision with the unvetted governor of ALASKA takes the cake.
what a joke. sad day for the country. Obama will be the new president and he is the better choice…certainly Biden is MUCH stronger than this ridiculous VP choice.
Roger Waters on September 2, 2008 at 1:31 AM
The political media, the Washington establishment, the Democrat party, and the GOP doubters are about to step in it.
There is only: One executive. One woman. And most importantly, One Regular Joe on the presidential tickets, and she is Governor Sarah Palin.
I say, “Go ahead. Attack. Attack. Attack.”.
I suspect an Andrew Jackson like response by the public.
Saltysam on September 2, 2008 at 1:32 AM
I’m not inflicting any personal morality. Inflicting, interesting gerund choice, there. Anywho, I’m pointing out the poor and irresponsible behavior and decisions that have been made. You obviously have no problems with that, and that’s fine. Good luck defending your position when/if you attempt to ridicule other unwed, teenage/young mothers across America and how this behavior affects our nation as a whole –- socially, morally and economically.
And you KNOW why this private matter has become public, it’s because strategically they have to get out in front of the criticism –- criticism that is legitimate.
She’s a public servant and has now made this issue a public topic. End of story. Can’t un-ring the bell now. Children who are brought up to properly respect their parents and don’t engage in this type of behavior. Sorry…
And, as you noted above, leading by example is important. So, if you can’t get your kids to follow your lead, what does that say?
LOL! Hardly. I am a Deist. I believe in a Creator -– a being who does NOT interfere with the laws of the universe.
And one cannot speak about moral and destructive behavior as a politician to the public and have one’s own children do the very thing that is pointed to as damaging to our nation. You cannot talk about and criticize unwed teen and young women’s pregnancies, and have your own child, running mate or party’s ticket exhibit that behavior.
By the way, Deism is also about morality, and that you are responsible for the choices you make. I find it extremely amusing that NONE of you find it a problem that Palin’s daughter has engaged in the type of behavior that conservatives have been criticizing for a couple of decades, at least.
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 1:34 AM
Andrew Jackson was a great man. Sarah Palin is on the ticket due to her gender. I will take one Ol Hickory over a billion Sarah Palins.
Roger Waters on September 2, 2008 at 1:35 AM
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 1:17 AM
I see she’s at it again.
Saltysam on September 2, 2008 at 1:36 AM
I don’t think there were too many in the first place. McCain’s a compromise/legacy pick unseen since Bob Dole.
Now that being said, is it too late to dump her for Lieberman? Joe’s starting to look better and better every day.
And while he may not have the base, at least McCain could still keep the Maverick label……..
Noneya on September 2, 2008 at 1:36 AM
Look understand Mitt will not be VP. He will not be president.
McCain and Mitt dont get along and Mitt is as objectionable as Libermann is to some
Its sad its this way but Mitt is a non starter
William Amos on September 2, 2008 at 1:37 AM
And Obama’s on the ticket because he’s black..
Chakra Hammer on September 2, 2008 at 1:37 AM
1/2 black.
Chakra Hammer on September 2, 2008 at 1:37 AM
capitalist piglet on September 2, 2008 at 1:29 AM
What DU fails to understand is in politics you want low expectations going into major events. By DU painting Palin as a bad mother, stupid, red neck hick etc Palin can come out of nowhere with an good to excellent speech on Weds and put all those “definitions” to shame. Tommorrow the counter attack begins. Rush, Sean, Levin, speakers at the convention etc. If a pregent 17 year old woman, a 25 year old DUI charge and a fishing without a permit is the best they can come up with they are toast.
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 1:39 AM
never seen you post before. LMAO.
Yea, Lieberman would get everyone fired up.
Chakra Hammer on September 2, 2008 at 1:39 AM
God I swear the Mit people are acting like Huck’s people. This slash and burn campaign is not going to endear Mitt to anyone.
Its a shame Huck screwed Mitt over but now acting like Huck is really obnoxious.
William Amos on September 2, 2008 at 1:39 AM
Andrew Jackson was a great man. Sarah Palin is on the ticket due to her gender. I will take one Ol Hickory over a billion Sarah Palins.
Roger Waters on September 2, 2008 at 1:35 AM
that’s funny because Palin is like Andrew Jackson reborn. A woman of the people and of course the elites hate her just like that hated Andrew Jackson.
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 1:40 AM
FACTS
Democrat Controlled Congress 12% Approval Rating
Palin’s Approval Rating 70-80%
Chakra Hammer on September 2, 2008 at 1:41 AM
I love it. You attack me for bringing up legitimate points about how kids are raised today. It’s rich, really.
Says more about you guys than anything. This problem is one that all of you want to ignore — which is parenting. Most of the problems we have in our nation go directly back to parenting.
And you guys call yourselves conservatives. LOL!
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 1:42 AM
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 1:34 AM
vote for obama then and watch the morality he brings to this great country. Idiots come in all shapes and sizes today it seems.
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 1:43 AM
She is of the people. DU doesn’t understand and that’s why their crap fails.
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 1:43 AM
They could only be called hypocrites if the daughter had an abortion.
Chakra Hammer on September 2, 2008 at 1:44 AM
Oooo. Scared of a little woman are we?
Saltysam on September 2, 2008 at 1:45 AM
FACTS
Democrat Controlled Congress 12% Approval Rating
Palin’s Approval Rating 70-80%
Chakra Hammer on September 2, 2008 at 1:41 AM
unserstood and agreed. Palin has brought a smile to my face, a tear to my eye, and a bounce to my step. She is someone that gives me pride to be an Americian. She is an example of the implied contract that the citizens voted for in 1787. that ordinary Americians will govern themselves. She is the AMerician dream personified.
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 1:45 AM
My side? Unseen is obviously a loon – I am a staunch McCain supporter. LOLOLOLOL Everyone here knows that, I’ve defended McCain through it all…
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 1:45 AM
My side? Unseen is obviously a loon – I am a staunch McCain supporter. LOLOLOLOL Everyone here knows that, I’ve defended McCain through it all…
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 1:45 AM
sure you have…I see you defending him right now in fact. With friends like you who needs enemies.
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 1:46 AM
Where is the RP link?
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 1:46 AM
Abortion is NEVER the answer, keeping the baby and taking responsibility is the best way, Adoption is always an alternative..
Chakra Hammer on September 2, 2008 at 1:47 AM
It’s about the greater problem in our society today, if you haven’t noticed. It affects taxpayers, our economy, our society, and so forth.
This is obvious.
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 1:48 AM
Let’be fair, Congress has such a low rating because they cannot stop the war.
That’s the intial reason, the reason from ther beginning, before all other reasons.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 1:49 AM
I didn’t know that..
Chakra Hammer on September 2, 2008 at 1:49 AM
“that’s funny because Palin is like Andrew Jackson reborn. A woman of the people and of course the elites hate her just like that hated Andrew Jackson.”
Now THAT is a good one! HA HA HA!!! Andrew Jackson was a NATIONAL HERO and the entire nation knew ol Hickory before he ran for president thanks to the battles he led, fought and won most important of which was The Battle of New Orleans. Andy Jackson was also a US congressman (not a small town mayor) and after he won his battles as a GENERAL in the US military, he unwillingly served as a US Senator.
Now, tell me again how Palin is like Andrew Jackson? I need a good laugh. HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
Roger Waters on September 2, 2008 at 1:50 AM
LOL! Another person who doesn’t want to debate the issue at hand and how it makes the McCain/Palin ticket look.
Get with it, Skippy. Time to wake up and start playing hard ball. You’re NOT going to win when you give the opposition ammunition to use against you.
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 1:50 AM
…my strong support for Mitt Romney is well established on this blog.
Sorry, But as nice as this lady is…she didnt even know “under God” was put in the pledge well late after the founding fathers were gone…I knew that in 3rd grade.
Obama will be the new president and he is the better choice…certainly Biden is MUCH stronger than this ridiculous VP choice.
Roger Waters on September 2, 2008 at 1:31 AM
Good try, Rog. You lie well.
And what part of Romney’s tax plans included the word “much higher”? And no gun rights? And anti-free enterprise and lots and lots of abortions, late term included? And no drilling anywhere? And endless global warming hysteria? And the destruction of our entire economic system?
Roger, you must have had a recent Biden-style cerebral anyeurism or are just simply full of shit.
You may be amazed to know that I don’t believe one fricking word you’re saying, Obamaboy.
TexasJew on September 2, 2008 at 1:50 AM
Says more about you guys than anything. This problem is one that all of you want to ignore — which is parenting. Most of the problems we have in our nation go directly back to parenting.
And you guys call yourselves conservatives. LOL!
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 1:42 AM
What a bunch of crap. My mother was a 17 year old mother. My grandmother was a great woman and a strong stay at home mother. The choice my mother made had absoultuly nothing to do with my grandmother. She was in love and married her highschool sweethear and raised two kids. what the hell does that have to do with parenting today. That was 40 years ago. Love knows no rules but the rule of the heart. Shakespere’s Romeo and Juilet was written 500 years ago and could be used to define this story.
Get off your high horse and I hope for your daughters sake she never disappoints you. You sound like someone that would disown her if she did.
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 1:51 AM
Democrats have Controled the House of Representatives and The US Senate now for 2 years.. they have Lowest Approval ratings of ALL TIME.. Obama and Biden have the LOWEST APPROVAL RATINGS OF ALL TIME..
Why should they be put into higher office?
Why should Obama be a Rubber Stamp for the most under qualified, and horrible Congress in History?
Nancy Pelosi And Harry Reid will be shoving all kinds of BS down our throats and Rubber Stamp Obama APPROVED APPROVED APPROVED!!
Chakra Hammer on September 2, 2008 at 1:53 AM
Hold on, I’ll find it – it didn’t come from anyone on the Left – it came from The Right.
Here’s the AIP link and here’s the Ron Paul link put out there by The Constitution Party.
No George Soros, no Left Wing conspiracy here.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 1:53 AM
LOL! Another person who doesn’t want to debate the issue at hand and how it makes the McCain/Palin ticket look.
Get with it, Skippy. Time to wake up and start playing hard ball. You’re NOT going to win when you give the opposition ammunition to use against you.
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 1:50 AM
You want to debate fine. what does a 17 year old’s woman love life have to do with the election? Nothing. except for busybodies that have no sense of privacy, morality, nor basic common denceny
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 1:53 AM
I already addressed this point. Go back and read some more. It might do you some good…
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 1:53 AM
TexasJew, you might want to check with a few of the long time posters before deciding I am lying. I am not positive I am voting for Obama…I cant stand the guy….but I dont like McCain and this VP pick was reckless as hell…and I dont see a reasonn to vote for him.
Roger Waters on September 2, 2008 at 1:54 AM
I already addressed this point. Go back and read some more. It might do you some good…
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 1:53 AM
since you know where the post is. repost it. I am not going to waste my time looking for some post buried in 1000 posts.
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 1:55 AM
Chakra Hammer
I don’t know, I’m not supporting Obama, I have always supported McCain except in the beginning when I supported Huckabee.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 1:55 AM
Wasilly Obama
William Amos on September 2, 2008 at 1:59 AM
No comments about the Constitional Party allegeding she supported Dr. Paul?
I guess everyone here is dumbfounded, God knows those paulbots were ostracized by HotAir by many, myself included.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:00 AM
She’s a Maverick, just like McCain said..
Whats wrong with that?
The thumbs up was more to Independents.
Chakra Hammer on September 2, 2008 at 2:00 AM
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 1:53 AM
From the link how the hell do you get she was a ron Paul supporter? she mentioned Mitt and Ron Paul. she was in faovr of Ron Paul’s message to not get into party politics and be an independent voter. what part of that says she was a Ron Paul supporter?
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 2:00 AM
Simple, Skippy. See, that 17 year old’s mother is running for the 2nd highest office in the land. She happenes to represent conservative values, and of those conservative values included would be chastity as well as respecting her parents’ rules while living under their roof.
These are the types of topics that come into play in the national stage under social-political issues. Unwed teen/young mothers in America is a big topic. It affects our country socially, economically and morally. And when the daughter of a member of the party ticket engages in the very behavior you want to discourage, that poses a big problem. You lose the authority to speak to that topic.
Is that clearer now?
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 2:01 AM
There is nothing remotely offensive in the 1:22 video. And in the 3:28 video she said she wants all campaigns to understand Alaska’s need. Not remotely offensive.
It’s that the best you have? That Ron Paul has an interview with her?
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 2:01 AM
Lazy…
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 2:02 AM
I went to your links.
Please. PLEASE, waste some more of my time.
Saltysam on September 2, 2008 at 2:02 AM
“Romney has said all the right things” Good call, there April. And Ron Paul is independent of the party machine “Right on”.
Great, no worries. What else?
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 2:03 AM
They ask her and she says it, listen to the interview, obviously the reason The Far Right is allegeding as much about her.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:03 AM
The AIP link was here welcoming the AIP convention. A politician looking for votes. she specifically states that AIP is not her party.
So no ron Paul endorsement and no AIP connection. Hmmm yeah alot of nothing.
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 2:04 AM
They are not my links, the link is from The Constitution Party, which I am not a member of or even fond of.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:05 AM
They ask her and she says it, listen to the interview, obviously the reason The Far Right is allegeding as much about her.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:03 AM
She says NO SUCH THING. She says his message of avioding start party thinking is a good message. I agree with that. She does not say she supports ROn Paul, nor does she say she supports any canidate. In Fact she says it is NOT HER JOB to support any canidate and tell AMericians who to vote for.
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 2:06 AM
She was amember of the AIP up until the late 90s, not a good thing.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:07 AM
Exactly. The charge is without merit.
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 2:07 AM
Lazy…
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 2:02 AM
If your aguements had more merit I would be more inclined to waste my time. I guess you are too lazy to repost YOUR POSt to defend YOUR position.
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 2:08 AM
That’s not trutherism! And she sure as hell doesn’t hold RP’s foreign policy views or his views on Israel as the flag in her office shows. Grasping.AT.straws.
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 2:08 AM
She was amember of the AIP up until the late 90s, not a good thing.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:07 AM
again a link.
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 2:08 AM
LOL! Oh man, you guys just don’t get it…
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 2:09 AM
Doesn’t matter, she will be gone by next week anyway, so it’s moot.
Mitt will step in and that will be that.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:10 AM
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:05 AM
There is not even the remotest suggestion of an endorsement for the Paul presidential bid on either of those links.
Unless you think “he’s a cool guy” is going to kill the McCain-Palin ticket.
AO, you’ve taken me down your road before, I find that you enjoy hiding behind the internet mask a little too much.
Saltysam on September 2, 2008 at 2:10 AM
Care to make a wager?
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 2:11 AM
And they won’t so don’t waste your time. They think she’s the best thing since sliced bread, they don’t care about vetting, it’s all very partisan loon madness.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:12 AM
I don’t gamble….
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:12 AM
As I’ve said on another thread: Thanks. Actually, I cannot thank you and others members of the HA anti-troll brigade enough.
Loxodonta on September 2, 2008 at 2:13 AM
Not only am I in AA, I am in Gamblers Anon. I was addicted to Atlantic City every weekend, it was a nightmare. I don’t even but Lotto or Mega Millions tickets.
I think she will be gone, we’ll see.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:14 AM
You mean you can’t stand behind your accusations. Forget wager. I’ll make you a deal.
If you are right, I won’t post again for a month.
If you are wrong, you don’t post for a month.
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 2:14 AM
Deal. I actually haven’t been here so much anyway, remember – my wedding is coming up.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:16 AM
Doesn’t matter, she will be gone by next week anyway, so it’s moot.
Mitt will step in and that will be that.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:10 AM
dream on. As far as your AIP smear. She was a member for two years. From 1994 -1996 when she rennounce the party and joined the Republician part and ran for mayor. the AIP has a 38.8% party mewmbership in Alsaka. If you are running for office I would hope you would not piss off 38% of your voters at the begining of the race. Alsaka politics are different than the lower 48 it seems like there are 3 parties with about the same mambership. AIP is a states rights party. Hmmm So states rights is wrong. I personally think states should have more say in the running of the government.
Next…
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 2:17 AM
You say age of consent is 16 in Alaska is 16. So what? That’s not the issue.
The point is that parents of a child under the age of 18 are responsible for the actions of said child until that child reaches his/her 18th birthday. My example was a car accident. If the child were held responsible for that accident, the parents could be sued for their child’s actions because they are still liable for what that child does until at least the age of 18 (vast majority of states).
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 2:17 AM
Re: AIP- She visited the Alaska National Guard in Kuwait, and her son joined the US military last year (on 9/11).
’nuff said.
gmoonster on September 2, 2008 at 2:19 AM
You said:
So let’s be generous and say thru Sunday.
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 2:19 AM
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 2:17 AM
It’s still a very Far Right Fringe party, not a good thing. And ask anyone here, I have said the same about the Far Right and the Far Left.
They are both disasterous for America.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:19 AM
I’ll make one better.
If he’s wrong, I won’t post until after the election.
If AprilOrit, you’re wrong, you don’t post until after the election.
I suspect the website administrators may be willing to enforce the results?
Saltysam on September 2, 2008 at 2:20 AM
Fine.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:20 AM
That’s fine, I will be on my honeymoon for a month and a half anyway.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:22 AM
Well, let’s hope the Obama kids got 100% on all their exams, because I sure would hate to see him lose the authority to speak about education.
Ronnie on September 2, 2008 at 2:22 AM
LOL! Oh man, you guys just don’t get it…
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 2:09 AM
what I get is when your point is knock down you raise another straw man. What you don’t get is the choice is BHO/Biden or McCain/Palin. You have NO OTHER CHOICE. The time for debate on the repbulician side is done. The 11th commandment has come into play. Either get behind the bus or go under it. BHO will not be any good for this country. he is a socialist/corrupt pig bloated with funny money from his chicago political machine, he has shown his comtempt for the 1st, and the 2nd amendment of the consitution. he believes in killing new born babies if the mother so wishes it. The choice is clear for me.
You can live in your perfect rose colored world and throw crap down from on high or you can join the real world and see the good instead of the bad.
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 2:22 AM
You’re on!
And, congratulations! Hope you have a long and fruitful marriage!
Saltysam on September 2, 2008 at 2:23 AM
The vetting line is stupid.
Democrats just want to have this blow this up in their faces. They’re masochists.
Again:
http://stopsmearingsarah.blogspot.com/
Right. on. the. money.
lansing quaker on September 2, 2008 at 2:23 AM
Hope you have a long and fruitful marriage!
+1
Spirit of 1776 on September 2, 2008 at 2:25 AM
The point is that parents of a child under the age of 18 are responsible for the actions of said child until that child reaches his/her 18th birthday. My example was a car accident. If the child were held responsible for that accident, the parents could be sued for their child’s actions because they are still liable for what that child does until at least the age of 18 (vast majority of states).
eanax on September 2, 2008 at 2:17 AM
The age of consental sex in Alsaka is 16. that means that a woman at the age of 16 can get legally married. If she does the parents are no longer responsible for her actions.
So let me get this striagth a man can join up for the army at 17 without his parents permission and go and fight and possibly die for his country but a woman is not old enough to decide to have a baby?
sexism comes in all shades…
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 2:25 AM
I could care less about the pregnancy thing, thats personal family business – to each his own. She’s a teenager, no one’s pefect, we are only human and that should not matter at all.
It’s none of our beeswax.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:25 AM
Wait until the Democrat party wishes they vetted the William Ayers/Annenbaum Foundation connection.
Talk about an explosion!
Saltysam on September 2, 2008 at 2:26 AM
I think people are more comcerned about the fact that she had sex outside of marriage actually.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:26 AM
Well let’s get on it, I do not see any bloggers concentrating on it. We know the press isn’t going to do it….
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:28 AM
It’s still a very Far Right Fringe party, not a good thing. And ask anyone here, I have said the same about the Far Right and the Far Left.
They are both disasterous for America.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:19 AM
She quit the party and joined the rep. what part of that do you not understand. the parties ideas where not hers. Shedecided that was not a road she wanted to travel. So if I was a democrat and switch to a repub because the dems party was too left wing for me I should always be tarred as a democrat for the rest of my life…please…
unseen on September 2, 2008 at 2:28 AM
Right on! Mitt was the wise choice all along. We’ll see if karma can do what McCain screwed up. That is to get the most qualified and skeleton-free and business/economic expert on the ticket.
Otherwise, get used to hearing Pres Obama!!!
Shelby on September 2, 2008 at 2:29 AM
If you were a Far Left loon – yes.
AprilOrit on September 2, 2008 at 2:29 AM
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