Palin was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it

posted at 11:58 am on September 1, 2008 by Allahpundit

Eh. McCain was against offshore drilling before he was for it. It’s amazing how willing voters are to embrace flip-flops as principled reconsiderations when they end up in line with majority opinion.

Note to Maverick: Please do test my theory by shamelessly reversing yourself on ANWR and amnesty.

While running for governor in 2006 … Palin backed federal funding for the infamous bridge, which McCain helped make it a symbol of pork barrel excess.

And as mayor of the small town of Wasilla from 1996 to 2002, Palin also hired a Washington lobbying firm that helped secure $8 million in congressionally directed spending projects, known as earmarks, according to public spending records compiled by the watchdog group Citizens Against Government Waste and lobbying documents…

She changed her mind, [her spokesman] said, when “she saw that Alaska was being perceived as taking from the country and not giving, and that impression bothered her and she wants to change it. … I think that Sarah Palin is someone who has the courage to reevaluate situations as they developed.”…

McAlister said he was unaware of the details of Wasilla’s earmarks. But, he added, “As mayor of the city, her charge was very different than it is now. She’s obviously taking a much broader look at things as governor.”

More at the Anchorage Daily News in a generally negative piece noting that the state didn’t give the funds earmarked for the bridge back to Congress even after torpedoing the project and that she’s still going ahead with a $25 million road to nowhere because, according to state officials, “the money would otherwise have to be returned to the federal government.” The most interesting (speculative) detail, echoed in this Reuters piece quoting some of her political opponents? That she may have flip-flopped precisely in order to make a splash nationally, suggesting that the Barracuda had her eye on higher office as far back as last year. The ADN goes so far as to note that her press release reversing herself on the bridge came just one month after McCain started knocking it. Was she trying to get out in front on the veepstakes? Maybe! Except that, er, (a) McCain was politically dead in the water at the time of that press release and therefore not the Republican candidate one would want to ingratiate oneself with, and (b) as has been widely reported, the two barely knew each other before last week, which isn’t an approach an ambitious young pol would normally take to get in good with a future POTUS.

Anyway. As with so much else about Palin, the smaller, vivid, personal details undercut the political liabilities. If she’s just another fatcat phony reformer feeding from the trough, what’s up with this?

One of Palin’s first acts as governor was to sell the governor’s jet on eBay. She thought it was wasteful and, besides, couldn’t even land on many of the state’s short, gravel airstrips. (“It was for out-of-state trips,” she said, disapprovingly.) She keeps a float plane, along with some snowmobiles, in her backyard in Wasilla. At the governor’s mansion in Juneau, she got rid of the chef. The NEWSWEEK reporter asked her what working mother in her right mind would dismiss someone whose sole job was to cook for her family. She replied, “I don’t want them thinking when I’m done being governor that it’s normal to have a chef. It’s OK for them to have macaroni and cheese.”

That’s worth twice as much politically as the bridge to nowhere meme; I don’t know why the GOP isn’t pushing it harder. But then, I also don’t know why they’d let her go out there and tout her actions on the bridge to nowhere in her announcement speech on Friday knowing — presumably — that she had initially supported it. Exit question from Marc Ambinder, who casually smears Palin as an ignoramus about the VP job in an otherwise interesting piece: Are we absolutely sure she’s been thoroughly vetted? Gulp.


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So she realized her first opinion was wrong and then changed it to be more in line with the American people – I’m yet to see a problem.

Defector01 on September 1, 2008 at 12:01 PM

Exactly, no problem. I would be worried if she has a steel trap closed mind.
Obama has flip-flopped on 27 issues so far and he has had the advantage of not actually having to govern an entity.

carbon_footprint on September 1, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Dude.. this is such a minor issue.

justinok on September 1, 2008 at 12:04 PM

Reversals on AMNESTY, ANWR and global warming would be welcome flip flops.

tarpon on September 1, 2008 at 12:04 PM

Trolls popping out from under the bridge and gloating in 5…4…3…2…

ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 12:05 PM

What’s the big deal? She didn’t change her position on the bridge to nowhere after it was built.
She said no and sent the money back. That is commendable.

jencab on September 1, 2008 at 12:06 PM

This issue has already been addressed by another Blog, and as usual, “Allah” has the wrong take on it…

Dale in Atlanta on September 1, 2008 at 12:07 PM

Consider the source{s}.

Johan Klaus on September 1, 2008 at 12:07 PM

I don’t see any issue here.

Let’s talk about federal funds going to a Chicago hospital where they, presumably, helped pay for one Michelle Obama’s significant pay increase.

MrScribbler on September 1, 2008 at 12:09 PM

“When the facts change, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?”

Jim Treacher on September 1, 2008 at 12:09 PM

She ended up doing the right thing…that’s what’s important. If Kerry had ended up voting FOR troop funding he wouldn’t have gotten into trouble.

packsoldier on September 1, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Is it possible that she was able to change her position once she learned more about it.

TheSitRep on September 1, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Hmmm. A political figure that changes their mind about an issue and votes according to the wants and needs of the people they represent. I like that.

What was the question again? Something about vetting?

Guardian on September 1, 2008 at 12:10 PM

Definition of a “Zealot”: He (or She) who having forgotten their purpose, redoubles their effort!

I guess that doesn’t mean Sarah Palin, though that won’t impress “Allah” nor the Lefties…

Dale in Atlanta on September 1, 2008 at 12:11 PM

These civic projects also get more expensive by the day. The longer they wait to start it, or with changes, the more expensive they get. They can reach a cost/benefit tipping point.

RBMN on September 1, 2008 at 12:11 PM

Oh, BTW….

Didn’t a certain Illinois Senator — that would be Barack Hussein Obama) support the “Bridge to Nowhere” and fight efforts to delete it from the budget?

MrScribbler on September 1, 2008 at 12:11 PM

If she recanted with reason, it’s hardly a strike against her. Obama’s constant flip-flops for political gain are much less forgivable.

GreatGatsby on September 1, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Yeah, I’d like to see them try to undercut her stance against pork barrel spending. It would just highlight their own support of it and her stance against excess spending is backed up by actions.

Aside from the political strategy implications of this, it doesn’t bother me all that much that she supported it initially. It matters some, but to me it matters far more that she eventually acted against it. We’re not going to find anyone who is perfect on all issues but the ability to listen to the people and adjust one’s positions is a good quality not a bad one.

A true flip-flop is taking and acting on a position and then changing it for political expediency. I think this is close to a flip-flop but isn’t quite enough to shake my support of her.

Kronos on September 1, 2008 at 12:12 PM

It is beyond ridiculous that every change in opinion or political stance is now defined as a ‘flip flop’.

People change their minds. They reason. It’s one of the higher functions of the human brain that makes us such intellectually powerful creatures. Now it’s a faculty of derision?

When running for governor, she supported the infamous bridge project. I do not expect that she would be intimately familiar with every pending project on the horizon – she had a campaign to run. “Build a bridge to an island? Sure, sounds like a great idea” However, once in office, she is expected to analyse these things, and she realized how wrong and wasteful the project was. Good job Palin!

When you’re constantly ‘refining’ your position and relying on the ‘nuanced’ view of words to justify switching opinions, then you’re a ‘flip flopper’ – just ask Kerry.

LimeyGeek on September 1, 2008 at 12:12 PM

“When the facts change, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?”

Jim Treacher on September 1, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Pretty much. So the estimated costs rose to $400 mil and she recognized the benefit was out of proportion. Oh noes!

Editor on September 1, 2008 at 12:13 PM

I have no problem with politicians whom change their positions based on the will of the people they serve. McCain was for amnesty, then simply stated “people, I hear you and will rethink this issue” which I like much better than what Bush told the people which was “they’re wrong, just plain wrong”…

I get things wrong on a regular basis around my place of business. Thankfully, my ego is not so damn large that I fail to listen to those who are in this business with me.

Keemo on September 1, 2008 at 12:13 PM

As long as she is not telling Israel to get used to Iran having nukes, I honestly don’t care about the bridge to nowhere.

Disturb the Universe on September 1, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Yeah Allah, might be more appropriate to change the Heart-ache to just Heart.
You know, like Sarah’Cuda!!!

carbon_footprint on September 1, 2008 at 12:13 PM

It’s a flip, not a flip-flop.

reaganaut on September 1, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Allah, you’re stretching to find that pessimistic comfort-zone you so love. :)

irishspy on September 1, 2008 at 12:15 PM

It’s a flip, not a flip-flop.

reaganaut on September 1, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Yes, an apt distinction.

carbon_footprint on September 1, 2008 at 12:15 PM

I would really like to understand more about this because that was a great line in her initial speech.

I don’t think she is a phony, for reasons like the jet, but what I’m really curious about is if you watch the series of Newsweek video clips on her and the CNBC interview, she repeated makes an issue of the fact that Alaska is a state that depends on federal dollars and she wants to make it economically viable on its own. Hence the pressing for the development of Alaska’s energy sources.

As such, large earmarks don’t fit her stated vision for her state. That’s why this is confusing to me. I don’t care if she just flip, though I should note we crucified Romney for that, but I think there must be more to the story.

And no to the two questions. It is unlikely she was playing her hand for a VP. That’s like saying Jindal is cleaning up LA just for his own political future, it’s lame. And two, no I’m sure McCain’s people have thought this through. If they looked into the trooper issue deeply enough to have no concerns, they obviously would have looked into the bigger stuff as well.

Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2008 at 12:15 PM

“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” Ralph Waldo Emerson

Disturb the Universe on September 1, 2008 at 12:15 PM

If Palin had been against it 100% from the start, some other congresscritter would have spent the money elsewhere. The simple route to avaoid this wasteful spending is to STOP earmarks completely. I believe McCain wants to do that, right?

Mord on September 1, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Here Govenor… I’m going to send you FREE money to put people to work in your state… its for a useless project… but it will create jobs…

Hard to turn down at first look…

Romeo13 on September 1, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Oh shi!
Breaking and this is not a joke.
Bristol Palin is pregnant.
She will marry the father.
Okay, the Kos Kids will have fun with this one!

carbon_footprint on September 1, 2008 at 12:18 PM

AP, she’s perfectly capable of taking care of herself. She does exactly what she thinks is best for her constituents. Can you honestly say her motives are on the same self serving parallel as those of Obama and Biden?

a capella on September 1, 2008 at 12:18 PM

I was once for the right of return and the establishment of the Palestinian state.

Then I went to the Middle East. Kinda changed my mind about that asap.

Once you get facts, your ideas change. That’s just the way it is.

mjk on September 1, 2008 at 12:19 PM

holy crap

jp on September 1, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Supporting the bridge to nowhere: BAD BAD BAD

Selling the governor’s jet on Ebay: AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME

Dave Rywall on September 1, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Yikes

Eh. Who really cares? She and the father are doing the right thing. End of story.

irishspy on September 1, 2008 at 12:20 PM

MrScribbler on September 1, 2008 at 12:11 PM

It is worse than that. Obama voted AGAINST using the bridge funds to help rebuild NO after Katrine.

Mord on September 1, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Bristol is pregnant says Palin.
Of course this will be looked down upon by the arrogant libs.
However, it is more noble that she is not aborting it like any Lib would do rather than be punished with a baby.

carbon_footprint on September 1, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Bad Penny on September 1, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Yup. Like the guys in theRed State video said at the very end: there’s always a catch. Personally, I’m happy for them – the child will be received into a loving and centered home. The libtards and the Drive-By media, on the other hand, will have a field day.

If you haven’t done so already, Allah, I suggest you open up the scotch and pour a glass. You’re gonna need it.

ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 12:22 PM

However, it is more noble that she is not aborting it like any Lib would do rather than be punished with a baby.

carbon_footprint on September 1, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Man, I never thought it would happen but this election is getting more and more revolved around abortion. Everyone who sees this will think of Obama’s punishment line.

Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Yikes

Bad Penny on September 1, 2008 at 12:17 PM

holy crap

jp on September 1, 2008 at 12:19 PM


Why?
How is this a bad thing?

Tengripundit on September 1, 2008 at 12:23 PM

So she realized her first opinion was wrong and then changed it to be more in line with the American people – I’m yet to see a problem.

Defector01 on September 1, 2008 at 12:01 PM

shows judgement and adaptability on domestic issues….I doubt she’ll change her mind three times in three days on Russia invading Georgia like the donks top-kick.

sven

sven10077 on September 1, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Breaking News >> McCain VP Pick Sarah Palin Says Teenage Daughter Is Pregnant -from FOXNEWS

Anyone know about this?

Static21 on September 1, 2008 at 12:24 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2944356420080901?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true

To rebut rumors, Palin says daughter, 17, pregnant

Kai on September 1, 2008 at 12:25 PM

Bad Penny on September 1, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Damn. The moonbats will crucify the poor kid over this. Excitable Andy will tsk tsk and devote a column or two to the sin of sex outside of marriage, in spite of his personal ads seeking a special kind of companionship.

a capella on September 1, 2008 at 12:25 PM

Palin’s daughter is pregnant…. Big deal! To the Obama’s, keeping the baby would be considered as “cruel punishment for a mistake made”…

Best wishes to Bristol and her husband to be…

Keemo on September 1, 2008 at 12:26 PM

Supporting the bridge to nowhere: BAD BAD BAD

Selling the governor’s jet on Ebay: AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME

Dave Rywall on September 1, 2008 at 12:20 PM

In both instances she showed leadership. On the former she was wrong and so she got right. She didn’t stubbornly refuse to adapt to new facts like another politician who shall go unnamed here (much like at the convention). On the latter she used the free market of e-bay to save the taxpayers some money by not having to pay for such unnecessary trappings of the office. I’m still a Palin fan.

D0WNT0WN on September 1, 2008 at 12:26 PM

Oh shi!
Breaking and this is not a joke.
Bristol Palin is pregnant.
She will marry the father.
Okay, the Kos Kids will have fun with this one!

carbon_footprint on September 1, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Unplanned unmarried teenage pregnancy?

This should bring some democrats to the POW/WOW ticket.

cgoode777 on September 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM

(b) as has been widely reported, the two barely knew each other before last week

Actually, according to the main piece in Sunday’s WaPo, McCain and Palin first talked at a governor’s conference in February, and the vetting process was done over months, not days. Ed linked to this yesterday here.

tagryn on September 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM

What screen name does Allah use when posting on the DailyKos?

David in ATL on September 1, 2008 at 12:30 PM

However, it is more noble that she is not aborting it like any Lib would do rather than be punished with a baby.

carbon_footprint on September 1, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Man, I never thought it would happen but this election is getting more and more revolved around abortion. Everyone who sees this will think of Obama’s punishment line.

Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Exactly. People, God works in mysterious ways. The battle for Roe vs. Wade could not be established any better than right now in our history.
On one side you have Palin who chose to keep her Downs Syndrome child rather than abort it. With a 17 year old daughter who is pregnant and who will keep the baby rather than abort it.
On the other side, Barack Obama who does not want his daughters to be ‘punished with a baby’.

carbon_footprint on September 1, 2008 at 12:31 PM

as usual, “Allah” has the wrong take on it…

Dale in Atlanta on September 1, 2008 at 12:07 PM

As I have said: What’s killing you Allah, is paralysis by analysis…. pessimistic analysis no less.

…for you ignoramuses that have no clue about Alaska, their really was/is a need for some better connection to Ketchikan from the mainland, otherwise their would’ve never even been a discussion about it.

If you read it with that in mind and consider that Palin was also empathizing with that need, but after the costs rose to 400 million, she resorted to considering other alternatives, as reported here.

Your problem Allah, is really… paralysis by lack of full context analysis….
and nothing has really changed with you here….

…we expect that from you since day one.. and we put up with it as the “weaker vessel” blogger.

Mcguyver on September 1, 2008 at 12:32 PM

This is certainly a challenging episode in the Palin family’s life, but to suggest that this in any way hurts Sarah’s suitability for VP is beyond callous.

Bristol and the father are taking responsibility, and they have a loving family around them for support. There are many, many young mothers that can only pray for such a wonderful environment.

This is another commendable story.

LimeyGeek on September 1, 2008 at 12:33 PM

Why? How is this a bad thing?

Tengripundit on September 1, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Because of the effect that it will have on swing-voters who consider unimportant things important.

There are tons of them.

I’m a registered independent .. lean to the right on most issues. This isn’t one of them. Personally, I intend to marry, but I couldn’t care less if two people raise a child without a contract.

I don’t find the daughter’s actions something that should effect, in any way, a voter’s decision .. but we live amongst nitwits who will.

cgoode777 on September 1, 2008 at 12:35 PM

What screen name does Allah use when posting on the DailyKos?

David in ATL on September 1, 2008 at 12:30 PM

That’s a bullshit thing to say. Who are you?

a capella on September 1, 2008 at 12:36 PM

She’s not Mitt Romney so its ok! /sarc

Not a big deal to me, I just don’t like the double standard with some people.

thecountofincognito on September 1, 2008 at 12:38 PM

It’s unfortunate — but inevitable — that the pregnancy of Palin’s daughter will become an issue.

Anyone with class would leave it to the family.

I’d be upset if I was Bristol’s father, but I’m not. It doesn’t concern me.

I don’t see a lot about Osama Obama’s kids, except when he splashes them in heavily managed situations. They are (rightly) off limits. The same courtesy should be accorded the Palin family.

MrScribbler on September 1, 2008 at 12:40 PM

What screen name does Allah use when posting on the DailyKos?

David in ATL on September 1, 2008 at 12:30 PM

He may go further left than some others around here, but the dude is no turncoat, if that’s what you’re implying.

Tread not upon the name of Allah.

cgoode777 on September 1, 2008 at 12:41 PM

I for one find AP’s snark heavy pissing & moaning a perfect counterbalance to Ed’s tentative attempts at levity. The HotAir odd couple just works for me.

rhodeymark on September 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Well MrScribbler, while true that it sucks and there is a double standard it is what it is…..

The best thing Sarah can do is be Sarah and simply say something along the lines of….

“I support my daughter’s decision and am of course thrilled to be a grandmother to be.”

The more noise they make attacking the Governor’s daughter the more idiotic they will look.

Those of us who support Sarah have a duty to put out OUR framing of the issue to counter the leftbat MSM noise machine.

Teen pregnancy while not a good thing is a result of the society we live in, if Sarah supports the family to be doing the right thing it will not harm her or the ticket one bit….

quite the contrary we have the endearing and wholesome image of a mother/grandmother and photogenic family at the Naval Observatory to sell.

Someone suggested we coopt Camelot…

we are on our way.

sven10077 on September 1, 2008 at 12:44 PM

We should ask Barry what young Ms. Palin should do…

…accept her punishment or make a choice as he would council his daugthers to do….

BobMbx on September 1, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Libs are going to go insane over this pregnancy story hitting in the middle of a hurricane. It isn’t even close to the top of the page on Drudge and hasn’t even been mentioned yet on MSNBC or CNN. It’s all been planned, don’t you see? The McCain campaign obvously waite until the hurricane made landfall to release the statement.

The statement from the campaign is a masterpiece. Turns the whole thing back on the Obama campaign and its brownshirts at Kos.

Teenage pregnancy is not a problem if the teens take responsibility, do not kill the child, and get married. That’s what conservatives believe. Liberals think we will totally flip out over this because they think conservatives are against sex. They will try to get us angry at Sarah Palin for not teaching her daughter abstinence and will say she is a hypocrite. Though I’ve never heard or seen a word from her about abstinence or sex education or birth control.

rockmom on September 1, 2008 at 12:56 PM

ENOUGH WITH THE TEEN PREGNANCY COMMENTS ON THIS…. the bridge to nowhere blog!!!

Geez folks.. read!!!

Mcguyver on September 1, 2008 at 12:56 PM

Eh, it’s a bridge.
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It took Obama 20 yrs to change his mind about his choice of a radical, racist, anti-American church.

marklmail on September 1, 2008 at 1:02 PM

I for one find AP’s snark heavy pissing & moaning a perfect counterbalance to Ed’s tentative attempts at levity. The HotAir odd couple just works for me.

rhodeymark on September 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Funny.

RushBaby on September 1, 2008 at 1:07 PM

It still looks bad, and it gives the left ammo. I’m glad that she came to the correct conclusion, but politics at the Presidential level is fierce. Any angling to make this seem positive will be perceived as “spin”.

holygoat on September 1, 2008 at 1:09 PM

She was for the bridge as long as the federal government was going to pay for most of the cost. Then was against it when the fed withdrew the funds and Alaskans had to foot the whole cost.

Chimpy on September 1, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Strange how this will be magnified, yet Obama’s HUGE flips and flops and radical associations are swept under the rug.

marklmail on September 1, 2008 at 1:12 PM

Guys, this is so overblown. When she was running for Governor she was asked if she would continue STATE (empahsis mine) funding for the Knik Arm and Gravin Island bridges. She said “yes”. She added that she “would like to see Alaska’s infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later and that the window is now while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist”.
The congressional delegation required the earmark to pay for the entire thing. Sarah Palin canceled it when the delegation was unable to prevent Alaska from paying for some of the bridge’s cost.
When she canceled the project she said –
“Ketchikan desires a better way to reach the airport, but the $398 million bridge is not the answer. Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it’s clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island.”
What is so difficult to believe that a governor would need more than $69 million from the fed towards a $398 million but not the entire $398 million?
I’m sorry, I have been checking these stories out in depth and I think it’s ridiculous to take these things so far out of context. And “Troopergate” is even more ridiculous.

JeffinOrlando on September 1, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Didn’t she fire the Executive Chef too or summin?

ronsfi on September 1, 2008 at 1:15 PM

Much to say about almost nothing. (See Chimpy.) I might as well be at DailyKos with all this blather about Palin. I’ll finally take AP’s ‘advice’and ignore these anti-Palin threads.
Let me know when either McCain and Palin start talking about illegal immigration. Aside from ‘drill here, drill now’, that is the issue that matters, not the Palin pregnancies or changing viewpoints.

Christine on September 1, 2008 at 1:20 PM

“I’m sorry, I have been checking these stories out in depth and I think it’s ridiculous to take these things so far out of context. And “Troopergate” is even more ridiculous.”
JeffinOrlando

Christine on September 1, 2008 at 1:23 PM

McCain was for amnesty, then simply stated “people, I hear you and will rethink this issue” which I like much better than what Bush told the people which was “they’re wrong, just plain wrong”…
Keemo on September 1, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Was for amnesty? And you think he’s not now? Please. He spent Cinco de mayo with La Raza; I think he’s met with them more than any other interest group. Juan Hernandez is still on his campaign staff. For all the end of world rhetoric I hear piled on Obama, I find it curious that Juan is hanging with John, instead of Barrack. Seen the Spanish only GOP ads on who the immigrant’s friend in the Senate is? McCain. You want to believe in campaign speech bullsh*t that he’s ‘changed his mind’ go ahead. Don’t try to sell it as truth. Too much evidence to the contrary.

He may go further left than some others around here, but the dude is no turncoat…
cgoode777 on September 1, 2008 at 12:41 PM

Oh, so criticizing GOP politicians when they f**k up is ‘going left’. And not supporting McCain is ‘trolling’. I’m learning so much here on HotAir in these last couple months than I have in the last 2 years. From the mouth of newbs…
I’m sure AP will moderate his views so you little brownshirted cheerleaders won’t have to find cause to pummel him with your nerfbats. Gotta remember, ‘D’ bad and ‘R’ good. Issues are not important. Democrats flip flop. Republicans ‘change their mind after careful consideration of the facts.’ Most of you have become just like the Democrats. Your party is always right. Never wrong. Attack those who say it is wrong; nevermind WHAT they say. Well, I don’t want to get caught in the crossfire of this rhetorical circle j*rk. Shake those pom poms..and do try to be a little nicer to AP. He may not think that Palin is Maggie Thatcher, but he does wield the ban hammer.

austinnelly on September 1, 2008 at 1:29 PM

Meh. Don’t care.

Sir Andrew on September 1, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Gee, I wonder who wrote this headline: “KP showing early symptoms of a bad case of … Palinmania”. All I know is: It wasn’t Ed.
It always hurts when your first crush actually likes the pro-choice, kick-ass VP nominee that you hate. My condolences.

Christine on September 1, 2008 at 2:10 PM

Sorry to contradict my earlier statement. I had to make that exception. I’m done now.

Christine on September 1, 2008 at 2:12 PM

Sarah Palin – Sarah Smile

Paul-Cincy on September 1, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Sarah Palin – Sarah Smile II

Paul-Cincy on September 1, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Wait…. how is she lying about anything? In her introduction speech she said, “Thanks, but no thanks.” The news articles from that time period paint a picture of Palin knowing that the bridge would have been a good thing for the locals in that area, but upon further reflection the project size and the amount of money it would take to undergo the project greatly outweighed the need. “Thanks, but no thanks.”

JoeBrooks on September 1, 2008 at 2:33 PM

JeffinOrlando on September 1, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Thanks a lot for that post.

Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2008 at 2:49 PM

OK, let me get this straight. The complaint now is that at first impression, the idea of a bridge in Alaska was a good thing. And I’d agree. A bridge means jobs for the construction, and it may mean easier access for residents etc.

However, once she became aware of the details, which are never in the initial information package I might add. Usually, you get a sound bite or a small news release. So the details contained the many sour pills that turned her against it.

This is supposed to be bad? Are you joking? I am for immigration reform, but not the version we had submitted by John McCain. I would like to see an Ellis Island style approach to immigration, where the individuals background is checked quickly, medical checks are performed and treatments offered for health issues, especially public health issues, and then Welcome to the United States. I would like to see a years long delay from the time that you entered illegally to the time you were eligible to re-enter and become a citizen. Something like a decade or so. However the current plan that says “Spent several years lying to people and stealing their identities? No problem, Welcome to America and please vote for me. We’ll forget that you completely screwed up their Social Security accounts, their credit record, and whatever happens to them, we don’t give a damn, so long as you’re welcomed right this instant.”

I’d like to see it easier for them to obey the law and enter legally, ending the years long delay to get permission to enter the nation and start on the path to citizenship. I like the idea of Immigrants, legal immigrants. My ancestors were immigrants, as were everyone else who is here now. Including the Indians sorry Native Americans. They didn’t appear here by magic, their ancestors trekked here too.

Does that mean I have a history of flip flopping? If it does, then by God I’ll take that.

Initially, my reaction is I feel comfortable with Palin, for a number of reasons. Unlike anyone else running for office, she’s had to work to get where she is, recently worked her ass off. She knows what it’s like to juggle family and career. If I had some assurance that McCain wouldn’t be there for more than a couple years, I’d almost be willing to vote for him.

I think she’s essentially honest, and I think when the cards are on the table, she’ll do what she believes is the right thing, because it’s the right thing. I probably won’t agree with everything she’d do, or say. However I respect those I disagree with if they can show me they are doing what they believe is right. McCain can’t show me that, there is no way he can show me that abridging Freedom of Speech was the right thing in McCain Feingold. He said at the time that we’d have to see what the Supreme Court said about it. Sorry, it says Congress shall pass no law. It doesn’t say that Congress shall pass any old law, and the responsibility for not violating the freedom of speech rests with the court.

Snake307 on September 1, 2008 at 2:59 PM

NEW politicians need to be given a few years to figure out what kind of politician they are going to be.

Once they set upon a path, if they stick to it, there is nothing wrong with making mistakes the first few years.

Elizabetty on September 1, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Actually, no. Flopping Aces has thoroughly destroyed this myth.

rightwingprof on September 1, 2008 at 3:14 PM

bottom line the bridge wasn’t built. Next…

unseen on September 1, 2008 at 3:24 PM

unseen,

Thank you.

Allah has essentially become a waterboy for the NYT.

revolution on September 1, 2008 at 3:30 PM

Racist statments against Indians.

Playing the race card to gain the black vote.

Ayers. “A funny name”. ABSOLUTELY NO EXPERIENCE in an executive office.

I’ll take one mistake over two knuckleheads any day.

madmonkphotog on September 1, 2008 at 3:48 PM

For more detail and facts, please go over and read a more detail story of the “bridge” at Flopping Aces.

http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/31/palins-bridge-to-nowhere-fiscally-responsible-or-politically-expedient/

So the charge she did the politically expedient thing just doesn’t hold much water. It’s hardly a decision that came out of no where. A flip flop? She would have had to have been fully on board with the project since day one for it to be a complete turn around. Indications that she wasn’t sold on the idea were there from the beginning.

Instead Palin approached the project with the respect due to both the Ketchikan residents and the advocates who had worked so long to secure the funding. And in the end, she opted to do the right fiscal thing for the State.”

bobsunshine on September 1, 2008 at 4:46 PM

Are we absolutely sure she’s been thoroughly vetted?

Nope. But as scary as that is, I’ll just bet none of the skeletons in her closet could possibly be as scary as those in Obama’s.

mushroom on September 1, 2008 at 5:18 PM

I for one find AP’s snark heavy pissing & moaning a perfect counterbalance to Ed’s tentative attempts at levity. The HotAir odd couple just works for me.

rhodeymark on September 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Exit question: Do Ed and Allah remind you of The Odd Couple or Hannity & Colmes? Sorry, Allah – I’m just messin’ with ‘ya!

Mr_Magoo on September 1, 2008 at 5:19 PM

It must be really hard on the left that after 3-4 days they will not have a thing left to attack her on. By Wednesday or Thursday they will be done.Obama doesn’t have anything new to say so for most of the MSM it twilight time.

BruceB on September 1, 2008 at 6:41 PM

Wait, don’t let her in Government. She’s running the State budget like a household budget. Stay within your income, try to avoid unnecessary expenses, don’t get things you don’t need, weigh the pros and cons of any expense, how dare she.

We can’t have that in Government.

Why? I don’t know… we never have before. So I’m guessing there must be a reason why it’s a bad thing.

Government must spend like a drunken monkey because it always has… who knows what could happen if that stops.

Bad things I’m guessing… maybe really bad things.

gekkobear on September 1, 2008 at 7:44 PM

Sarah Palin – Sarah Smile II

Paul-Cincy on September 1, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Nice. Thanks, Paul.

silverfox on September 1, 2008 at 8:31 PM

The comments are rather strange on this one. They seem to have this Obama-like worship of Sarah Palin, and I think it detracts from conservatism’s largest appeal, consistent humility. I hate it when either side (us or theirs) tries to ignore a mistake.
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Sarah Palin did not just change her mind. She changed her mind, and tried to act like she did it for reasons that are inconsistent with the statements she made along the way. Her mistake was this, “… tout[ing] her actions on the bridge to nowhere in her announcement speech on Friday knowing… that she had initially supported it.” If you dont trust the ADN, read her office’s press releases. It’s not that she changed her mind, gave up, or supported this bridge (that I’m not even convinced was a purely bad idea) that was the problem. The problem is that she tried to use this series of events that were mostly out of her control to make it look like she had done something particularly noble.
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Don’t get me wrong, I think she has done MANY noble things. She just screwed up here, and we need to take it with a grain of salt and move on; she has many positives that make up for this.
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As far as her daughter, who cares? You strive for perfection and when (not if) you screw up, you continue to strive for perfection. In this case, perfection is for her daughter at this point is to accept responsibility for her actions, have the child, and continue her life. I’m glad she is doing the right thing. I don’t understand how even the most liberal ass in the country can call her mom a hypocrite for any of this.

kaw on September 4, 2008 at 7:50 PM

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