Biden: Obama will surrender on nukes to Iran; Update: AOL Hot Seat Poll added

posted at 9:13 am on September 1, 2008 by Ed Morrissey


Ha’aretz reports that Joe Biden told Israeli leaders that they would have to accept a nuclear Iran if Barack Obama wins the Presidency.  Israelis expressed “amazement” at Biden’s attitude:

Democratic vice-presidential candidate Joe Biden was quoted Monday as telling senior Israeli officials behind closed doors that the Jewish state will have to reconcile itself to a nuclear Iran.

In the unsourced report, Army Radio also quoted Biden as saying that he opposed “opening a additional military and diplomatic front.”

Biden, chairman of the powerful Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has long been considered strongly pro-Israel. His nomination as Barack Obama’s running mate had been expected to shore up the Democrats’ strength with U.S. Jewish voters.

For those unfamiliar with Ha’aretz, it doesn’t exactly have a knee-jerk conservative spin.  In fact, it’s at best a center-left editorial board. They’re not terribly sympathetic to the Bush administration or most of its policies.  They wouldn’t have much reason to simply make this up.

If anyone doubted that an Obama presidency would surrender to radicalism and hostile forces abroad, this should clinch it.  Biden has pretty much told the Israelis that they’re on their own, and America won’t bother to support them against the nutcases in the region.  If Obama and Biden don’t have the courage to face Iran’s nuclear ambitions, then exactly when will they defend American interests?

And what of our Western allies?  Europe wants Iranian nukes stopped just as much as we do, especially since they’re more directly threatened by them.  Obama and Biden talk about bolstering our alliances, but it looks like they’re more interested in leaving them holding the bag.

Hugh Hewitt sees this as further evidence that Obama is nothing more than the second coming of Jimmy Carter:

American supporters of Israel have to understand that Obama-Biden is a disaster for Israel’s security.  It would be Carter II, but without the keen insight that Carter brought to Iran policy.

It’s worse than that.  Carter at least had a deranged notion of justice as a foundation; this just looks like cowardice.

Update: The Jerusalem Post says this conversation took place three years ago:

Army Radio reported that the Delaware senator was heard saying in closed conversations with Jerusalem officials three years ago that he was firmly opposed to an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

Biden, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, reportedly claimed that Israel would likely have to come to terms with a nuclear Iran. He reportedly expressed doubt over the effectiveness of economic sanctions imposed on the Islamic Republic and said he was against the opening of an additional military and diplomatic front, saying that the US had more pressing problems, such as North Korea and Iraq.

The Ha’aretz report didn’t mention a time frame.  Still, either way, the message is the same: Biden won’t stand up to Iran, and since Barack Obama chose him for his foreign-policy chops, one has to figure that Obama agrees.  After all, Biden is the man who once proposed sending $200 million to Tehran to pacify the mullahs.


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WWPD? She only got her first passport less than 2 years ago. She’d have tons of credibility on any world stage. As a tourist.

As opposed to Obama whose foreign policy experience involves going to school in Kenya for a couple o’ years and shopping in Berlin.

Of course, the issue is that until a couple of years ago, Palin wouldn’t have needed a passport to go to Canada to negotiate that massive pipeline thing. But details, details, right, Davey?

mjk on September 1, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Guys!!!

Reality Check!!!

Biden is rumored to have said this three years ago.

Calm down. Biden will shoot his mouth off plenty of times — he can’t help himelf. Let’s not get the public used to thinking we’re crying wolf with silly over-reactions like this one.

ClintACK on September 1, 2008 at 12:58 PM

Re: Senator Obama’s Foreign Policy experience…

I really think we need to quit with the “went on a few tours” meme (however true it is) and keep pointing out that even before he clinched the nomination, he’d managed to create a major diplomatic incident with our closest ally that necessitated sending a special envoy to assure them that he was just lying to the American people. (Re: withdrawing from NAFTA and banning the importation of shale oil.)

ClintACK on September 1, 2008 at 1:04 PM

If this is true–and the Isreali government certainly knows whether this is the case–is their any doubt that Isreal will waste no time attacking Iran the moment it seems Obama wins? Considering Biden is really the foreign affairs office for any Obama presidency, I think it’s a sure bet. Talk about weakness inviting war.

BryanS on September 1, 2008 at 1:09 PM

That sounds about right. par for the course for any self respecting Surrendercrat. Do ANY of these self important a-holes look more than 5 minutes into the future? They act like they are some superintelligent vanguard of our society that will lead us ignorant masses. They are so enlightened that they hate war and will avoid it at ANY cost. well guess what any normal non-sociopath hates war. Unforturnately the little aspiring hitler in Tehran views it differently and wets himself at the prospect of destroying Israel and his own country in some twisted marytr scheme,much like hitler. Biden and Obama will fret and pace while trying to build consensus with all too spineless Euros about what babystep sanction they can come up with next. If Israel gets nuked, much of the blame for it will lay squarely at the feet of the Democratic party playing political oneupmanship at the expense of a realistic view of our world. Evil DOES exist in this world Barry and its not so much in our country as you answer to Warren would suggest you believe. Try looking beyond our borders to find true evil. Here’s a hint, look for dictatorships in Africa and Asis. But also look for spineless and murderously complicit socialist types in Europe as well as here. All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.

allahallahoxenfree on September 1, 2008 at 1:19 PM

Since Biden was ostensibly brought aboard because of his foreign policy bona fides, both he and Obama need to be asked if they still support this position. If so, why? If not, why not? This is another example with which to question Obama’s self-proclaimed Judgment To Lead.

I like the Obama = Carter’s second term angle. This story plays into that quite nicely.

holygoat on September 1, 2008 at 1:32 PM

WWPD? She only got her first passport less than 2 years ago. She’d have tons of credibility on any world stage. As a tourist.

Dave Rywall

Well, if Dave Rywall can make snarky PDS remarks on this thread without challenge, then I will snarkily reply that at least Sarah Palin’s first passport was US and not Indonesian. It is the constant nipping with truths, semitruths, untruths, and out of contest truths that is the marxist style of attempted character murder by a thousand cuts. If they say enough, maybe something will somewhat stick. If they snark and lie enough, some of the weaker minded citizens will adopt the smoke/fire mindset.

Old Country Boy on September 1, 2008 at 1:37 PM

I like the Obama = Carter’s second term angle. This story plays into that quite nicely.

holygoat

ABSOLUTELY!

Its a generational thing We forget the lessons learned 30 years ago

allahallahoxenfree on September 1, 2008 at 1:37 PM

“It would be Carter II, but without the keen insight that Carter brought to Iran policy.” Is Hugh just being sarcastic here or has his flipped his lid?
“Biden is the man who once proposed sending $200 million to Tehran to pacify the mullahs.” Ah, but there’s nothing to worry about here, move along.

Christine on September 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM

So, the White House would become the White Mosque under an Obama/Biden tyranny.

Goodbye, Christmas. Hello, Ramadan.

madmonkphotog on September 1, 2008 at 3:40 PM

Hasn’t Bush already surrender on nukes to Iran?

How many years has it been now since he declared that Iran was part of the “Axis of Evil”?

What has he even done since then to even slow down Iran’s drive for nukes?

P.S. Blowing smoke does not count.

MB4 on September 1, 2008 at 3:53 PM

So much for 30 plus years of foreign policy experience.

Cr4sh Dummy on September 1, 2008 at 4:53 PM

Rest assured that Biden will try to toot his own horn many times to show his prowess on foreign relations. Of course, his foot will follow because he really is as stupid as he looks, and has only served as the chair of the committee because he kissed the right a$$eS on the way.
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I have a new outlook now since the Palin pick. I just can’t wait to see the entire democratic party crushed by losing what they thought was a sure thing…
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McCain just has to realize that his best bet is to put Palin out front as the face of the ticket. He’s showing his age in his speeches and just sounds lifeless…

stacman on September 1, 2008 at 6:31 PM

iran = north korea

biden = madaline albright

Sonosam on September 1, 2008 at 9:05 PM

Guys!!!

Reality Check!!!

Biden is rumored to have said this three years ago.

Calm down. Biden will shoot his mouth off plenty of times — he can’t help himelf. Let’s not get the public used to thinking we’re crying wolf with silly over-reactions like this one.

ClintACK on September 1, 2008 at

I am inclined to agree with Clintack on this one.
It would be stupid to jump up and down about this and then
have the Israeli leadership come out with

“This did not happen,only a rumor,move on”.

I certainly believe this could have happed with how wrong democrats have been on N. Korea,Iran,Iraq and watching al-qaeda grow to such serious strength while liberals danced around listening to Clinton play the sax telling our intelligence agencies “don’t bother me with this sh!t,can’t you see I am busy”when they had Osama in their sights more than 8 times.

It absolutely turns my stomach to even hear a democrat talk
about national security or sending our men and women to war
after they sold out our country and stabbed our Soldiers in the back for political gain during Viet Nam and now Iraq.

But this appeasement attitude, if found true,correlates exactly with Obama’s “Winnie the Pooh and Tiger too”Foreign policy on Iran:

Obama’s ‘Key’ Foreign Policy Adviser: “Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security.”
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWViNzMxZTBhYzg4Y2NlZDc3MGI4NzUyYWMxNmY4MGU=

Richard Danzig, who served as Navy Secretary under President Clinton and is tipped to become National Security Adviser in an Obama White House, told a major foreign policy conference in Washington that the future of US strategy in the war on terrorism should follow a lesson from the pages of Winnie the Pooh, which can be shortened to: if it is causing you too much pain, try something else.

Of course,if chickenhawk Obama had his way,we would not have anything to defend ourselves or Israel with if Iran makes good on it threats to “obliterate it”.


IN 52 SECS WHY BARACK OBAMA CANNOT WIN A GENERAL ELECTION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs

How can America protect itself and negotiate from a position of power if Obama wants to disarm us.

Baxter Greene on September 1, 2008 at 10:26 PM

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