Are you ready for Fred 2012? Update: I probably won’t run again, says Mitt
posted at 4:49 pm on September 1, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Not that he thinks Maverick’s going down in November, but … it never hurts to be prepared.
I’m faint with anticipation at the thought of a grassroots death match between Fred, Jindal, and Palin, with the four-year running knife fight between Mitt and Huck serving as subplot.
In an interview Thursday, Thompson acknowledged the mistakes of his campaign and conceded that his refusal to play the game the way it’s been played for years cost him. “I’ve gone my own way–sometimes to my own detriment,” Thompson says. “I discounted and underestimated the rulebook–Mitt and the Huck were raising money, forming PACs…” he says, his voice trailing off…
Now, in conjunction with the Republican National Convention next week in Minnesota, he is launching FredPac, a political action committee devoted to electing conservatives committed to “first principles.” And he is working on a book that sounds a lot like the kind of book a would-be presidential candidate might write. “I’m going to be talking about my views,” he said in an interview Thursday. “And it is going to be partly autobiographical–kind of an only-in-America story.”
So what’s the bottom line? “Where does all of that lead me–in terms of my country, my family, where we need to go?” he asks. Then he answers his own question. “Some of it will depend, of course, on who wins the election.”
Steve Hayes’s back-up plan if McCain, against all odds, somehow pulls it out: Director of National Intelligence. Exit question: Admit it. As much as you love the Barracuda and want to see her succeed, you’re nervous about the next two months and would swap in ol’ Fred if you could, right? Seasoned, vetted, steady hand, capable of making Biden’s knees buckle at the debate with only the choicest cracker-barrel proverbs. Why, we’d be guaranteed to lose the election by no more than four points! With Palin, we could lose by ten. Or, of course, win narrowly.
Update: Sounds like he did a dynamite job at his presser today in Minneapolis. I’ve been wondering why the GOP hasn’t mentioned Harry Truman more often as an analog to Palin’s own lack of national experience; Fred’s all over it now. Plus this:
Pushed by NEWSWEEK’s reporters and editors to say whether having a pregnant teenage daughter and five-month-old baby with Down syndrome at home will raise questions about Palin’s “priorities,” Thompson responded by questioning the questioners. “Would you be saying that about man running for office in her shoes?” he asked. “I really think you’re going to be surprised at how average people and women who are not necessarily political one way or another identify with her. I see nothing in this that will hurt Sarah Palin politically. I mean, I get that it’s a necessary part of the process to ask those questions. But we have to keep it fair. If we don’t keep it fair, it will redound to her benefit.” Judging by the reaction in the room–”I look around this table all these angry men, and I can’t believe they’re even asking this question,” quipped one female NEWSWEEKer–I have a feeling he’s right.
Update: Oh my. No knife-fight subplot?
Romney told reporters this morning that he does not want a cabinet position in a John McCain administration, saying that he would not relish being “soldiered by 27-year-olds in the White House,” as his father did during his days as HUD secretary.
“That is not an attractive position in my view,” Romney said, citing the experience of his dad, George Romney, who served as the head of the Department of Housing and Urban Development under President Richard Nixon after his defeat in the 1968 presidential race. “I’ve seen it too close-hand to think that’s something for me.”
In a press conference after remarks to the Utah delegation, Romney said that he expects to remain in the public sector after the November election and will not return to the business world, as many have speculated. But he demurred when asked about a second try at the Oval Office.
“I do not anticipate doing it again,” he chuckled. “It’s hard to imagine doing that.”
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My money’s on option 2.
Grow Fins on September 1, 2008 at 4:51 PM
please – i guess if he can catch up on naps in between now and then, which is to say – NOT
alabudboy on September 1, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Fred?
Mitt / Palin ‘12!
Tony737 on September 1, 2008 at 4:52 PM
No Fred. No.
Enoxo on September 1, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Is he going to run as lackadaisical of a campaign as he did this year?
KSgop on September 1, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Palin/Jindal ‘12!
Enoxo on September 1, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Allah, you’re such an ass sometimes. LOL! ;-)
aero on September 1, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Fred would make a most excellent VP pick for Palin.
Palin-alanche!
TheSitRep on September 1, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Sorry, AP. I have more faith in someone with a track record, like Palin, rather than a Senator-turned-TV star.
MB007 on September 1, 2008 at 4:54 PM
I’m with you.
jencab on September 1, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Fred! should have been the GOP candidate this election. I’ll settle for 2012 when McCain is defeated.
HebrewToYou on September 1, 2008 at 4:56 PM
You guys are unbelievable. Do you know how much crap I ate for daring to breathe a critical word about Fred during the primaries? And now you’re totally deriding him because you’re in love with Palin. Good lord.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2008 at 4:56 PM
I think the success of any future Thompson candidacy hinges upon one important question: will he break his no silly hats rule?
Slublog on September 1, 2008 at 4:56 PM
I’m a real Fred-head, but I think he would serve better as Sarah’s vp or atty general. Palin/Jindal 2012 bumper stickers should sell like hotcakes in about 3 yrs.
kcfrommt on September 1, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Yes.
McCain has gambled but i don’t blame him for it. He is doing well in the polls because Obama is such a weak candidate.
Fred would have been a safe choice and we will only know if that is what wasgood for the party after the election.
Bill C on September 1, 2008 at 4:56 PM
More like Palin/Thompson 2012
elduende on September 1, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Wrong.
Fred is the past, Palin is the future.
Not only that, as much as Fred is loved on the right, he’s just another senator to everyone else.
Fred’s moment has come, and it has gone. He blew it. End of story.
Typhoon on September 1, 2008 at 4:56 PM
I want to add a poll to the post but I’m not sure what question to poll. Palin will win going away no matter what the question is.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2008 at 4:57 PM
……….
Congratulations, Allah?
amerpundit on September 1, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Not a chance. She is a doer, he’s a speaker.
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Yeah? Read some Hot Air threads from early January. He sure sounded like the future then.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Sometimes, Allah, you’re like a breath of fresh vomit.
Immolate on September 1, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Wrong.
Blake on September 1, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal, and such are the new face of the GOP and vibrant….Fred and his age group should move into elder statemen cabinet level jobs as the new blood gets going.
JMHO,
sven
sven10077 on September 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM
No Fred in 2012. He didn’t have fire in the belly in 2008, he’s not going to have in 2012.
P.S.
Allah, don’t worry you’re not the only one skeptical about Palin.
terryannonline on September 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Fred!-2012? Sure, if he’s embalmed. I was a FredHead, but Fred blew it. Sorry Fred. In 2012 you have no role other than consiglieri to the gracious President Palin.
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Well…unless the people who were feeding you crap are the exact same people who are “deriding him” now, I’d say that proves, oh, basically…nothing.
Typhoon on September 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM
I want to add a poll to the post but I’m not sure what question to poll. Palin will win going away no matter what the question is. – A.P.
Ok, ‘Who’s hotter, Sarah Palin or Halle Berry?’
Problem solved :-)
Tony737 on September 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM
I have to vomit sometimes given how much crap some of you feed me.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Palin/Jindal ‘12 – now THAT’s the ticket.
outOfElement on September 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM
It was a silly rule about not wearing another persons hat. Mittbot.
Bill C on September 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM
I’m through with Fred since he proved he lacks the testicular fortitude to fight the good fight.
DannoJyd on September 1, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Sure, but the critiques of him were true. So alot of illusions were destroyed. He didn’t have it in him to campaign as needed, unless he was a stalking horse.
I think we should appreciate Fred for what he is and what he can do, but conservatives don’t need to project an image when they have someone real to rally around.
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Yes, I’m ready, if Fred gets his energy level up and McCain’s health is not the best
Thompson / Palin 2012
Janos Hunyadi on September 1, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Never was a Fredhead, probably never will be. Never really understood the fascination with him as a candidate.
On the other hand…once a Palinite, always a Palinite :D
MB007 on September 1, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Why the assumption that McCain will only be around for one term?
AP, there are meds that help with depression. My take is that McCain-Palin will win this year — absent some hellish drummed-up scandal or massive voter fraud on a scale never before attempted — and again in ‘12.
May not be the landslide it should be, but a win is a win.
All this doom & gloom doesn’t really help anyone, least of all you, AP!
MrScribbler on September 1, 2008 at 5:00 PM
No Fred.
Palin
Jindal and Palin will be the favorites in 2012 after McCain only runs 1 term, I really only think that he will run for one term.
Chakra Hammer on September 1, 2008 at 5:01 PM
It was a joke. Good grief.
I donated to Thompson, for crying out loud. Guess supporting him isn’t enough to atone for the sin of levity aimed at TEH FRED.
Slublog on September 1, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Keep in mind that the primaries were quite a while ago and the people demeaning Fred now may not be the same who were championing him then.
Also, I’m waiting for your nickname for the Palin adorers. You know, like the Fred-heads thing? Come on, I know you’ve got a clever name for those who’ve gone Chris Matthews over Sarah Palin. :)
Michael in MI on September 1, 2008 at 5:01 PM
It’s an indication that we are building a deep and talented bench for future elections. Palin, Jindal, Thompson, Cantor, Pence, Demint, etc.
aquaviva on September 1, 2008 at 5:02 PM
What the hell, Allah….. haven’t you been getting enough blog hits the last few days!?!
….you can’t help yourself, I know….. with KP being tempted to get all weak kneed over the Barracuda, thereby relieving you from having to impress her by writing in Hillary…
.. yea I feel for you. Why not make the money while the making is good? Financing the “honeymoon” and impressing her is going to be difficult without a bunch of dough.
Mcguyver on September 1, 2008 at 5:02 PM
I love Fred. But Palin is in many ways the female Fred.
Yes, indeed, how sweet it would be to see Fred, Palin, and Jindal fighting it out in 2012.
But Allah, oh pessimist, I believe you shall never see such a thing. Because last Friday, tectonic plates shifted, old mountains crumbled, new ones were thrust skyward . . . and Obama-Biden became the underdogs.
JudetheFossil on September 1, 2008 at 5:02 PM
You know if McCain wins this year the Dems will win spectacularly in 2012. Do you really want up and comers to have such a colossal lose?
terryannonline on September 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Ron Paul 2012 :)
offroadaz on September 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM
McCain/Palin will win but McCain I think McCain will announce in his last year that he isn’t going to run again..
Chakra Hammer on September 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Yeah. Ain’t love swell? McCain looks so much better with Palin standing next to him. Fred who?
Guardian on September 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM
I’ll bet my ranch on Palin. By the way…it’s SARAH’CUDA, for the sake of syllabic brevity.
*shrugs*
I’m feeling lucky. Care to bet, Allah?
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM
I read them then, AP. I didn’t agree then and I don’t agree now. My own personal take of Fred is that his supporters always wanted to project him as Reagan but he never was. I don’t dislike him but I’m hardly enamored.
Yes, I understand that Palin may bomb, but my bet says she won’t. My bet for quite some time has been that she’s the up-and-coming real deal in the Republican party.
And I’m ecstatic she’s upon the stage, and would not trade her at this point for anyone.
Typhoon on September 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Or win huge if the blue collar folks in OH and PA fall in love with the Palins. McCain’s already got FL and TX. He’s way, way up in NV.
I sent money to Fred! way before I sent money to McCain, but I wouldn’t trade now. McCain did something bold and forward-looking for the GOP. It was a ballsy move, and I like ballsy men.
funky chicken on September 1, 2008 at 5:04 PM
How could they beat Palin after she has all the experience?
Chakra Hammer on September 1, 2008 at 5:05 PM
We love you, Allah, otherwise we wouldn’t keep coming back to feed you more crap! Admit it — you’re a little fond of us, too. Mmmmm…yummy crap.
aero on September 1, 2008 at 5:05 PM
My first choice for VP would be Gingrich, but the debate vs. Biden would be so lopsided I’d feel guilty about it. Palin will do just fine.
RedWinged Blackbird on September 1, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Man alive Allah, I might just stop reading your posts. You’re just so full of pessimism. I don’t want you to sugarcoat stuff but you seem to be doing the opposite instead.
But seriously, I’m very happy with who we have. To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld: you don’t go into a campaign with the candidate you want you go into a campaign with the candidate you have. I think we have a really good chance of defeating Obama and while I have some fears about Palin, I’m far more hopeful now than I was a month ago.
Kronos on September 1, 2008 at 5:05 PM
I’m not diggin a Cuda to Fred swap. There’s no value in doing that at this stage of the dance. Since the stage is set and the orchestra is engaged there no sense in changing partners. That would signal desperation and we could loose the momentum already generated.
There is a place for Fred.
Kini on September 1, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Pheh. Fred was a good choice for a presidential candidate, assuming he proved that he could dance the dance, which is what the primaries are for. He failed that test, probably because his heart wasn’t in it or because he gambled (like Rudi) on a strategy that didn’t work.
Unfortunately, Fred’s use-by date was pretty much 2008. If the GoP looses this election, what do you think the odds are that we’ll choose another old guy to try in 2012?
Also, there is no Sarah vs. Fred thing. They aren’t competing for anything, and if they both compete in the primaries in 2012, then we’ll get to see who wins then. There is no constructive purpose in playing a hypothetical contest now. I like them both, and I’d have voted for either without reservation.
Immolate on September 1, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Sane? Optimists?
Guardian on September 1, 2008 at 5:05 PM
I’ll go with the girl. Fred screwed up his campaign and he is of the Beltway crowd. I want GOP reform and a new GOP direction. She gives me a better chance of getting it.
a capella on September 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Heheh. I’ve done it to you in the past, but I have come around to share your pessimism and have come to appreciate your criticism in the face of all out Chris Matthews-esque adoration from the right on certain people and issues.
I will admit that I am still extremely sour over what you, Bryan Preston and Michelle Malkin did with the “silly hat” nonsense, but overall, you and Ed Morrissey do the best job on the political blogs of bringing us news, political analysis and discussion all at once place on the web. Keep up the good work.
Michael in MI on September 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Grassroots death match sounds so cool in a bloodletting, gory kind of way.
Don’t misunderestimate Palin. She eats Chuck Norris for lunch.
JammieWearingFool on September 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM
OT from Instapundit:
“RAN INTO JIM HOFT OF GATEWAY PUNDIT on my way into the Xcel Center. His bus was attacked by protesters who dropped sandbags from an overpass,”
Bishop on September 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Suck it up, Boss. Doesn’t mean we don’t still love you, in spite of your bummer pessimism.
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Fred the toothless lion, lived in Gucci,
and traveled in a golf cart, that he named Calamity.
Hening on September 1, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Ooooh…. getting testy are we Allah!
I was wondering when comment baiting was going to bite you in the butt….
.. oh wait, the Barracuda has already got the the only chunk of backbone anchor available (visible anyway).
Mcguyver on September 1, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Palin/Jindal 2012 after Palin was VP and Jindal has been a successful Governor of and has handled multiple Hurricanes.
Chakra Hammer on September 1, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Four senators on the two tickets…that’s what we need…
It's Vintage, Duh on September 1, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Fred’s just mad cuz Palin is even hotter than his wife.
Can we have a poll to decide that?
lorien1973 on September 1, 2008 at 5:08 PM
She’s my Palintine.
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2008 at 5:10 PM
Critical words aren’t the problem; snarky delivery is. Claiming we are in love with Sarah? That is snarky.
And to answer your question, no I wouldn’t swap Fred for Sarah (also, please notice the lack of ! after Fred–hint hint). I liked Fred in the primaries. I liked his direct approach. However, that approach doesn’t go over well with pundits (nor does his cowboy hat in certain circles). That said, I didn’t support Fred in the primaries. I supported Mitt. What I did support was pundits focusing on what Fred represented and what he said, versus a focus on the pundits fears (guns, cowboys, independence and old-fashioned America optimism).
That said–I wouldn’t swap either Fred or Mitt for Sarah. How long until the words Palinmaniac or Palinist or any other snarky label start to appear to label those who support a candidate versus remaining ambiguous while demeaning others? Hmm? Or did I somehow miss their introduction to the discourse?
I simply think Sarah Palin was a good pick. And no AP, that doesn’t mean I am blinded by love. Nice of you to show sexist colors though. Sometimes men can support a woman because they respect and believe in her.
Now we just need actual debates. Not a media or pundit driven circus.
Montana on September 1, 2008 at 5:10 PM
Thanks Allah!
Every time I start feeling good about our party I know I can rely on you to kick me in the groin.
conservnut on September 1, 2008 at 5:10 PM
Only if it was a mud wrestl- nevermind.
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 5:10 PM
That’s easy. If the McCain Administration is painted as poorly as the Bush Administration has been the past 8 years, Palin will take the fall for being associated with McCain’s administration.
So, the way I see it, Palin is set up for 2012 in only 2 ways:
(1) The McCain Administration is a huge success, for which she will get credit
(2) McCain loses to Obama, Obama’s Administration tanks and she runs again in 2012 after 4 more years of kicking butt as Alaska governor in the meantime.
However, after 8 years of disaffection with the GOP, if the GOP doesn’t kick butt during McCain’s Administration, the electorate will be ready to hand the White House to the Democrats, since it will then have been 12 years of lousy governance by the GOP… and Palin will be on the outside looking in.
Michael in MI on September 1, 2008 at 5:11 PM
I’ll be comin’ to ya on a dusty road
I’ll be ready in 2012 and debatin ‘em with a red pickup truck load
And when I debate ‘um you’ll really see somethin’
So dont worry cause I’m Fred and I’ll be a’comin’
Im Fred man
Im Fred man
Listen up America!
Im Fred man
Im Fred man
I got what I got the old fashion way
And I’ll take it to those shamnesy jerks in each and every way
So voters dont you fret
Cause you’ve hardly even seen me knockin those open borders twits yet
Im Fred man
Im Fred man
Play it Jeri baby!
Im Fred man
Im Fred man
Listen
I’m all wrapped up in the things America needs
I learned how to be an American almost before I could eat
I come from American heartland stock
When I become President things will really rock
Im Fred man
Im Fred man
Take that you illegal plantation supportin’ McNut!
Im Fred man
Im Fred man
I’ll grab your rope and I’ll pull you in
Give you hope and be Americas best friend
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Im Fred man
Im Fred man
Youre a Fred man!
Im Fred man
Im Fred man
MB4 on September 1, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Nah, it’s more like a pelican having to pierce its own flesh with its bill in order to bleed and feed the hatch lings.
“Oh the pain….the pain” Dr. Smith
Hening on September 1, 2008 at 5:12 PM
You do realize Republicans have lost just two elections in the past twenty plus years? What are the chances if winning 4 in a row? It is basically impossible. Believe me if McCain wins, starting Nov. 5 I’m going to get mentally for President Hillary Rodham Clinton. I might need four years to get adjusted.
terryannonline on September 1, 2008 at 5:12 PM
A good, level-headed analysis. Thanks, Mike.
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Palinites™.
Mcguyver on September 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM
That’s what I think. Part of politics is timing. Fred missed grabbing the ring this time and I think his chance is gone and so, IMO, is Hillary’s. (I’d be surprised if she’s able to come back in four years. I think she’s more apt to settle in the Senate to take Teddy’s place as a thorn.)
Excellent point.
INC on September 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Not going to happen, waste of time.
KBird on September 1, 2008 at 5:14 PM
I don’t know as Fred has any plan to run. I think he just wants to make sure that the party doesn’t stray any farther than it has and he hopes to continue that fight with his PAC.
I love Fred! He was my candidate. When he dropped out, I was incredibly disappointed, but I noted here twice that unfortunately, McCain’s centrist positions probably made him the viable candidate.
I’d like to see Fred have a place in the McCain administration. Not only because he’s terrific, but also to keep his PAC front and center in the Republicans’ minds.
Connie on September 1, 2008 at 5:14 PM
What a load of tiresome dung you are.
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Another kick to the jewels! Ouch!!!
conservnut on September 1, 2008 at 5:14 PM
McCain is blessed to have Democrats in Congress, also the RNC gets to bash them constantly for trying to spend money that we don’t have.. etc.. We put pressure on the Dems, play offense not defense.
Chakra Hammer on September 1, 2008 at 5:15 PM
They certainly are a quaint and fickle bunch are they not?
MB4 on September 1, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Yesterday they had a huge turnout for a campaign stop outside St. Louis. Appearing on stage with McCain and Palin? Huckabee and Romney, smiling, cordial/friendly with each other, super excited to work for the ticket.
I don’t think a Fred! pick does that.
Fred would make a great Atty General, if he’s interested. But casting an eye toward 2012 without doing everything in his power to help McCain/Palin win this thing? nope
funky chicken on September 1, 2008 at 5:15 PM
I want Fred on the Court.
And Palin ought to be put up as President if McCain won’t be able to do a second term.
Sir Andrew on September 1, 2008 at 5:15 PM
For myself, I put my hopes in Fred when he was the best of a mediocre field (in terms of his clear belief in conservatism, versus mere support for the Republican party). At the time, I saw no possibility whatsoever of a potential energizing conservative movement leader on the horizon. I was aware of Jindal and Palin and others, but I thought the establishment would force them to “wait their turn” for several decades, until they were too old, withered, and jaded to have any genuine conservative fire left in their bellies.
I whole-heartedly switched my hopes to Palin when McCain elevated her to the national scene because she embodies the possibilities for the future of conservatism even better than Fred does.
I know Sarah might let us down. I know there’s the possibility that this ticket might go down in flames — whether because of Sarah, because of JMac, or because of successful attacks from the opposition. But there is also the possibility that she could soar, and take us with her. I have hope again, and that’s no small thing.
aero on September 1, 2008 at 5:15 PM
I think the most likely scenario if McCain looses is that Palin will hit the ground running with experience as Governor and as Senator from Alaska for a year or three. I sense a disturbance in the Senate.
Immolate on September 1, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Totally on target Allah.
I’d like to see Fred! in there, but that makes for a ticket of two old guys and a probable loser in November, unless Obambi stumbles badly, like say in response to whatever Putin pulls next. And yeah, Fred! vs Blowhard Joe would be a lot of fun to watch. But, y’know … Bloviating Joe vs Sarah might prove to be the best show of the whole deal — imagine Biden trapped into an unforced error and the Barracuda come back and bites his ass. May the YouTubers rejoice, PBUT.
In other related Biden news, I caught the 60 Minutes interview yesterday with Messiah and Joe and noted a couple of things. Early on in the segment, Messiah appeared to be looking at Joe almost as though one would a junior lackey — watching for an erroneous comment, and at the ready to ‘clarify’. And at another point in the interview, Joe addressed Messiah as “boss”. And he did it in what seemed to me an odd way — not unlike how Chester talks to Spike. Heh.
The next two months will be most intersting, I expect.
notta_dhimmi on September 1, 2008 at 5:16 PM
I know which is why I changed your name to csdeven in the sig line.
;-)
Bill C on September 1, 2008 at 5:16 PM
MB4 on September 1, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Heheh, my how long it’s been. Back during the primaries, I used to skip right on by your comments due to your constant ridiculing of the Fredheads and the criticism of Fred. And now idiotic newbie commenters are saying that you and I are the same person. heh
Michael in MI on September 1, 2008 at 5:17 PM
And YOU are a predictable quantity. Tiresomely predictable.
ManlyRash on September 1, 2008 at 5:17 PM
AP, you are such a cruel tease. I bet you take beer bongs to AA meetings.
I don’t like to repeat myself but . . .
Thompson-Palin 2012!
Terrie on September 1, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Fred! should have been the GOP candidate this election. I’ll settle for 2012
whenif McCain is defeated.HebrewToYou on September 1, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Sorry, just needed to fix it for ya :’)
Vntnrse on September 1, 2008 at 5:18 PM
We were totally deprived of Fred saying to Biden, “Son, russians don’t take a dump without a plan.”
lorien1973 on September 1, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Heh, that’s an understatement.
Michael in MI on September 1, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Palindrones!
cjw79 on September 1, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Nope.
I was a major FredHead; I sent his campaign more money than I did any other politician ever, would have volunteered and worked my butt off to get him elected.
But he wimped out before the going even got tough, I blame HIM for being the primary reason we are stuck with McCain now.
I like the guy; welcome him as a common sense spokesman for the Republican party or just conservatism and federalism in general, but I wouldn’t support him to be a State Governor, (heck, even a big town Mayor), much less President after what he did (or rather didn’t do) in his last campaign.
LegendHasIt on September 1, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Good God. Now it’s not enough to say you are pessimistic about the GOP’s chances to win this time. Now you’re gonna be pessimistic about what will happen for 4 years if they win.
So–McCain and Palin can’t win because McCain sucks and she’s just a token veep nominee.
AND if they win (?) they will be disastrous in office because McCain sucks and Palin’s just a token veep nominee.
Doom and Gloom for 2008! Doom and gloom for 2012! Doom and gloom forever!
How the hell do you get out of bed in the morning? Well, I guess I can understand if you are an Obama supporter.
funky chicken on September 1, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Yeah, I’ll be the third vote for this ticket!
Vntnrse on September 1, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Puleaze. If you don’t understand how people can look for hope with one candidate, that candidate disappoint them, then be excited about a better candidate, then no one can help you.
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM
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