Rasmussen: Obama’s convention bounce gone

posted at 11:30 am on August 31, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

That didn’t take long.  Three days after the end of the convention and the supposedly historic speech given by Barack Obama, Rasmussen’s daily tracking poll puts him back to where he was before the convention started.  The Republican convention starts tomorrow, and the Democrat has already started backwards:

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday—the day before the Republican National Convention is scheduled to begin—shows Barack Obama ahead of John McCain by three percentage points both with and without leaners. That’s exactly the same edge Obama enjoyed a week ago on the eve of the Democratic National Convention. …

There have been significant changes in perception of John McCain in the two days of polling since he named Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. Since then, 49% of Republicans voice a Very Favorable opinion of McCain. That’s up six percentage points from 43% just before the announcement. Also, 64% of unaffiliated voters now give positive reviews to McCain, up ten points since naming his running mate.

There has been little change in perceptions of Obama since his Thursday night speech and the Palin announcement.

Once again, the polling numbers show that the Obama speech was a dud.  Most of his bounce came from speeches given by Hillary and Bill Clinton, as they did their best to unify the party behind the nominee.  Obama had an opportunity to play for the center, but instead of sounding presidential and accommodating, he offered the same tired stump speech, the same Bush bashing, and the same vagueries as people heard — even if he did deliver it from a big stage with lots of fireworks.

After squandering a double-digit lead this summer, nothing Obama has done shows that he can make a comeback on his own.  He barely survived the primaries after taking the momentum from Hillary in February, and now he’s lost it to McCain.  The more America sees of Barack Obama, the more they appear to like John McCain, and now the Republicans have the opportunity to seize the momentumn for good this week.


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but but but

when it was just zogby last night we were told by our betters we were cherrypicking polling data….

ah wait now gallup is the be all and end all even with their +9% oversampling of donks.

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 11:32 AM

Where would this clown be if not for the MSM propping him up?

Elric66 on August 31, 2008 at 11:33 AM

There have been significant changes in perception of John McCain in the two days of polling since he named Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. Since then, 49% of Republicans voice a Very Favorable opinion of McCain. That’s up six percentage points from 43% just before the announcement. Also, 64% of unaffiliated voters now give positive reviews to McCain, up ten points since naming his running mate.

This has nothing to do with The One. This has to do with Palin.

malan89 on August 31, 2008 at 11:33 AM

Also, 64% of unaffiliated voters now give positive reviews to McCain, up ten points since naming his running mate.

Hot damn.

Spirit of 1776 on August 31, 2008 at 11:33 AM

AP and Ed are going to be very busy for the next couple of months…

rmgraha on August 31, 2008 at 11:34 AM

This has nothing to do with The One. This has to do with Palin.

malan89 on August 31, 2008 at 11:33 AM

maybe, Palin is “The One”, which will deliver us from evil(Obama)

jp on August 31, 2008 at 11:35 AM

I’m neither surprised nor assured. The worst is yet to come. Prepare for the most dazzling display of coordinated crapcraft from the Obama campaign through their surrogates and the MSM.

I went ahead and fixed that for myself.

Immolate on August 31, 2008 at 11:35 AM

AP and Ed are going to be very busy for the next couple of months…

rmgraha on August 31, 2008 at 11:34 AM

it is a fight worth fighting.

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 11:35 AM

I can live with that.

Bob's Kid on August 31, 2008 at 11:35 AM

The didn’t call me, but I would have been part of that 6%.

tmitsss on August 31, 2008 at 11:37 AM

MCCAIN – PALIN WILL WIN WITH 300+ IN THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

reliapundit on August 31, 2008 at 11:37 AM

Sarah-Cuda! Van Palin! Sarah the Obama Slayer! The Biden Breaker! GAME ON!

D0WNT0WN on August 31, 2008 at 11:37 AM

Once again, the polling numbers show that the Obama speech was a dud. Most of his bounce came from speeches given by Hillary and Bill Clinton, as they did their best to unify the party behind the nominee.

I would go a little further. It seemed to me that Bill’s speech was the only real motivator. Shrillary did okay, but Bill gave a Democratic barn-burner. Frankly, the Dems would have been better off if B Hussein had given his rambling, childish essay about “What I did last summer” on Wednesday night and let Bill Clinton give his much better (and more mature) speech at the stadium.

progressoverpeace on August 31, 2008 at 11:37 AM

I was reading some evangelical blogs, different type than what many think of(many of them are libertarians), previously they would vote for McCain under no circumstance whatsoever, mostly paultards politically. Now they are enthusiastic and either supporting the ticket or seriuosly thinking about it at the moment. The traditional evangelical base will be much easier to get on board.

the Palin pick is huge

jp on August 31, 2008 at 11:37 AM

Hot damn.

Spirit of 1776 on August 31, 2008 at 11:33 AM

What he said…

surrounded on August 31, 2008 at 11:37 AM

As vicious as the left has been toward Palin the past 48 hours, they’re really going to bug out now.

Is there enough popcorn on the planet for this meltdown?

JammieWearingFool on August 31, 2008 at 11:38 AM

If Palin holds her own against Binden–and she will–this is going to be a fun race.

I’m so sick of out-of-touch conservative elites (e.g., Heather MacDonald) poo-pooing her. And I love Krauthammer, but he needs to stop it too.

I donated to McCain (and I wasn’t expecting to a month ago) just to show my appreciation for his pick.

watchmen on August 31, 2008 at 11:39 AM

Awwwww.

whitetop on August 31, 2008 at 11:39 AM

We have to get Palin’s true record out there, and dismantle the “She’s a beauty queen” and not qualified bs. the media/dems are pushing

jp on August 31, 2008 at 11:39 AM

All this without any MSM investigation of Obama’s past, accomplishments and true beliefs?

Without their help, The Messiah’s approval numbers would be right down there with those of Congress.

That McCain-Palin does as well as this — despite the endless slurs, baseless accusations, distortions and outright lies about them from the majority of the media — is heartening.

MrScribbler on August 31, 2008 at 11:40 AM

I guess when you give historic speeches every other day for a year the magic sort of wears off.

Chuck Schick on August 31, 2008 at 11:41 AM

There’s a change that fills me with hope.

ronsfi on August 31, 2008 at 11:41 AM

What’s so hilarious about this is that Obama’s cheerleaders in the media are now trying to plant the meme that Obama has proven his executive skills by running such a great campaign for the last 12 months.

rockmom on August 31, 2008 at 11:41 AM

“Also, 64% of unaffiliated voters now give positive reviews to McCain, up ten points since naming his running mate”

OMG SHE’S THE MESSIAH

lodge on August 31, 2008 at 11:42 AM

Icarus.

Yeah, the pretenders shiny wax image is melting.

Speakup on August 31, 2008 at 11:42 AM

We have to get Palin’s true record out there, and dismantle the “She’s a beauty queen” and not qualified bs. the media/dems are pushing

jp on August 31, 2008 at 11:39 AM

You are right and that is why I am putting the mockery of the media’s love affair with Barry and my double entendres away. Sarah was going to help regardless, but I never thought they would be so stupid as to keep pushing….

maybe we need to get a position paper on her accomplishment thread going and generate talking points of our own on the matter to talk to undecideds.

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Obama put his best qualification out first, by necessity…he’s black, chance to make civil rights history…but for Obama, it’s all been downhill from there. He’d also be the first radical socialist friend of a terrorist…wrong kind of history-making.

RBMN on August 31, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Palin Power punctures Obama’s Zepellin. Oh, the humanity!

but but but

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 11:32 AM

Piggybacking on sven10077 (whose braving Gustav, I believe)–Obama: “but but but ‘we’re the ones we’ve been wating for.’”

I love that statement. It’s the height of idiocy. I still can’t believe a speechwriter composed that line with a straight face. Did Rove have a hand in slipping that one in the teleprompter?

BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 11:44 AM

I’m neither surprised nor assured. The worst is yet to come. Prepare for the most dazzling display of coordinated crapcraft from the Obama campaign through their surrogates and the MSM.

I went ahead and fixed that for myself.

Immolate on August 31, 2008 at 11:35 AM

I don’t think so. They’ve been anything but dazzling so far. You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken s—, and this is very clearly a chicken s— campaign that does not know what the hell it is doing.

rockmom on August 31, 2008 at 11:44 AM

I guess when you give historic speeches every other day for a year the magic sort of wears off.

Chuck Schick on August 31, 2008 at 11:41 AM

It’s SOAP! Now with 10% more SOAP!

yeah what I mean about the debate goalposts…they pumped expectations through the roof again.

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 11:44 AM

What’s so hilarious about this is that Obama’s cheerleaders in the media are now trying to plant the meme that Obama has proven his executive skills by running such a great campaign for the last 12 months.

rockmom on August 31, 2008 at 11:41 AM

Well, they were trumpeting his “ethics reform” (I think they called it the greatest in history, or some such drivel) but Palin’s ethics reform puts B Hussein’s to shame. That doesn’t leave anything else for Hussein, except his job for the past 2 years … campaigning.

Funniest of all, though, is that B Hussein’s campaign has been a total disaster. The MSM had to carry him across the finish line in the primaries.

progressoverpeace on August 31, 2008 at 11:45 AM

OMG SHE’S THE MESSIAH

lodge on August 31, 2008 at 11:42 AM

some Christians are comparing her to possibly a Deborah in the Bible.

maybe we need to get a position paper on her accomplishment thread going and generate talking points of our own on the matter to talk to undecideds.

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 11:43 AM

I think Redstate had one the other day….

jp on August 31, 2008 at 11:46 AM

I’m neither surprised nor assured. The worst is yet to come. Prepare for the most dazzling display of coordinated crapcraft from the Obama campaign through their surrogates and the MSM.

I went ahead and fixed that for myself.

Immolate on August 31, 2008 at 11:35 AM

Bingo. This is far far from over. Just take a look at what “polls said” last year and throughout this campaign. First Rudy was “The One” for the GOP. Then Huckabee was “The One” for the GOP. Then everyone turned to Mitt to save us from Huckabee and McCain. Now it’s McCain. I stopped paying attention to polls a long time ago. They are meaningless. What matters is what happens on election day.

That said, the polls that actually may have some merit are the State polling. Because national votes mean nothing, the Electoral Vote is what counts. In 2000, the GOP lost the national vote, but won the Electoral Vote… barely. In 2004, the national vote went to President Bush, but Kerry garnered the most votes in history (save for President Bush). But again, the Electoral Vote was close. This year will be no different. Nothing should be taken for granted. I would have thought that Bush would have annihilated Kerry in 2004, because he was a complete empty suit; horrible, horrible candidate and came across as a bufoon. Yet, sure enough, he garnered a record number of votes.

This year the DNC has a much better candidate than Kerry who, unlike Kerry, actually energizes the DNC base. This year, instead of voting against Bush, the DNC is voting for Obama. We should not underestimate that. As TheBigOldDog mentioned yesterday, this man used his dirty tricks, his allies in the mass media and his allies in his Chicago political machine to defeat the Clinton machine. He – and the mass media – still has plenty up his sleeve to turn this election back to his favor. We must not get cocky and instead stay focused so we are prepared for what they will dish out next.

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 11:46 AM

maybe, Palin is “The One”, which will deliver us from evil(Obama)

jp on August 31, 2008 at 11:35 AM

Be still my heart … I’d eat a mile of HER moose stew …

Benjamin9 on August 31, 2008 at 11:46 AM

Obama-Edwards-Biden is supposed to be a campaign to “take back” America. Isn’t that in all their speeches?

Well excuse me, but the democrat party of Obama-Edwards-Biden is currently in control of our lawmaking powers.

Who the hell are they “taking it back” from? Themselves!

jeff_from_mpls on August 31, 2008 at 11:46 AM

What’s so hilarious about this is that Obama’s cheerleaders in the media are now trying to plant the meme that Obama has proven his executive skills by running such a great campaign for the last 12 months.

rockmom on August 31, 2008 at 11:41 AM

So true. What great experience. He’s perfecting how to speak out of all sides of his mouth.

I want straight talk. Sarah’Cuda Feevah! Catch It!

BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 11:46 AM

What’s so hilarious about this is that Obama’s cheerleaders in the media are now trying to plant the meme that Obama has proven his executive skills by running such a great campaign for the last 12 months.

rockmom on August 31, 2008 at 11:41 AM

I pointed out to a friend that Palin had finally pushed through the $40B natural gas pipeline from Prudhoe to Chicago after 30 years of gridlock in the Alaskan state house. When I asked what the biggest thing Obama’s been in charge of I got “his campaign”.

So I guess running for president now make you qualified to be president, or something.

Chuck Schick on August 31, 2008 at 11:47 AM

There is hope.

Terrye on August 31, 2008 at 11:47 AM

I can’t wait for the debate between Biden and Palin.

It’s be forever known as “Plugs versus Jugs”, and she’ll kick his smarmy derriere..

TexasJew on August 31, 2008 at 11:48 AM

Rasmussen: Obama’s convention bounce gone

The only “bounce” left for Obama is when he hits rock bottom. Something he is rapidly approaching.

Guardian on August 31, 2008 at 11:48 AM

The American people want change in Washington. Palin has done it in AK and will do it there,..Obama just talks about it now, but has embraced the old ways in the past. He can’t overcome that, and the MSM can’t do it for him. She’s the real deal and he’s a poseur. That will become increasingly clear as we progress.

a capella on August 31, 2008 at 11:48 AM

What’s so hilarious about this is that Obama’s cheerleaders in the media are now trying to plant the meme that Obama has proven his executive skills by running such a great campaign for the last 12 months.

Yeah, that it is crazy. Campaigning is not experience. Job interviewing is not experience.

CanadianGuy on August 31, 2008 at 11:50 AM

What’s so hilarious about this is that Obama’s cheerleaders in the media are now trying to plant the meme that Obama has proven his executive skills by running such a great campaign for the last 12 months.

rockmom on August 31, 2008 at 11:41 AM

We’re not going to find it so hilarious is the media succeeds in getting the American public to believe the meme. They have succeeded in getting the American public to believe a lot of other ridiculous lies before. So let’s not underestimate them.

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 11:50 AM

Watch for the inevitable MSM attack-question to Governor Palin: Who is the Prime Minister of Krapistan? Do you know?

jeff_from_mpls on August 31, 2008 at 11:50 AM

BTW: Isn’t Obama scheduled to go overseas for a fundraiser with George Clooney?

I want to tee that one up. Or maybe hanging it like a pinata is a better metaphor.

Palin/McCain: out of touch? Spare me. Obama and Biden are the dilletantes.

BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 11:50 AM

Wasn’t Dukakis up 17 at this point in his campaign, Ed? Or was that after both conventions.

Hopefully they’re gassing up a tank with a big “O” on it somewhere.

Chuck Schick on August 31, 2008 at 11:51 AM

I’m sure glad that we don’t have to face Billy Jeff and Hilary! They’re completely self-absorbed narcissists, but excellent politicians.

Illinidiva on August 31, 2008 at 11:52 AM

Will be interesting to see if Gallup still has an 8 point lead today. It’s all about the trends.

SouthernGent on August 31, 2008 at 11:52 AM

Yep, dukakis was up that much after DNC convention

jp on August 31, 2008 at 11:53 AM

Where would this clown be if not for the MSM propping him up?
Elric66 on August 31, 2008 at 11:33 AM

I guess thrills going up legs and comparisons of the brand new senator to Abraham Lincoln can only go so far.

wise_man on August 31, 2008 at 11:53 AM

Palin/McCain: out of touch? Spare me. Obama and Biden are the dilletantes.

BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 11:50 AM

Truer words were never spoken. Biden likes to talk, and talk, and TALK …. He’s in love with the sound of his own voice and has never really done much of anything to qualify as a statesmen. Obama is the archetypal young college professor. The man should be grading freshman term papers not running for President.

D0WNT0WN on August 31, 2008 at 11:53 AM

Yeah, that it is crazy. Campaigning is not experience. Job interviewing is not experience.

CanadianGuy on August 31, 2008 at 11:50 AM

Haha. This reminded me of a freelancer we had to hire once. When we got his invoice the last item was “30 minutes: preparing and faxing invoice”.

Chuck Schick on August 31, 2008 at 11:53 AM

And now all hope for the dems hangs on Gustav.

I live in Minnesota, but I decided to lay-in my own supplies for the approaching hurricane: 1000 barf bags for me to use while I watch the MSM coverage of Katrina II.

Bishop on August 31, 2008 at 11:54 AM

RedState did a nice job of a point-by-point comparison between the Dem #1 and GOP #2:

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-of-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/

Jonah Goldberg and others are making the point that the inexperience charge doesn’t work against Obama as much now because he ran a successful campaign and beat his opponents. This proves that 18 million people (the number of votes Obama got) determined that Obama was experienced enough while only John McCain has decided that Sarah Palin is ready for the job. Of course, Joe Biden ran a campaign as well and 36 million people (the number of people who voted for Obama or Clinton) decided he wasn’t qualified for the job. Only Barack Obama believes otherwise.

Bennett on August 31, 2008 at 11:54 AM

When we got his invoice the last item was “30 minutes: preparing and faxing invoice”.

Chuck Schick on August 31, 2008 at 11:53 AM

Chutzpah! Gotta love it.

progressoverpeace on August 31, 2008 at 11:55 AM

Sven, how long do you plan to keep posting? What is going on down by you?

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 11:55 AM

Well, they were trumpeting his “ethics reform” (I think they called it the greatest in history, or some such drivel) but Palin’s ethics reform puts B Hussein’s to shame. That doesn’t leave anything else for Hussein, except his job for the past 2 years … campaigning.

Funniest of all, though, is that B Hussein’s campaign has been a total disaster. The MSM had to carry him across the finish line in the primaries.

progressoverpeace on August 31, 2008 at 11:45 AM

Indeed…even funnier is that to attack her they compare her experience to their titcket’s #1 and lok hopeful McCain dies….that’s not gonna sell to a graying America.

I suspect they are silently bleeding off some gray panthers even as I type.

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 11:55 AM

Also, 64% of unaffiliated voters now give positive reviews to McCain, up ten points since naming his running mate.

Awwwwright !!!

I thought his speech was a dud too, Ed. But the reviews I was hearing were so glowing I thought I didn’t hear it well, due to my own bias. The next day I read your analysis, which consoled me that I might not be off my rocker, after all. Now the polls seem to validate your assessment was correct, however much ahead of the curve.

petefrt on August 31, 2008 at 11:57 AM

Haha. This reminded me of a freelancer we had to hire once. When we got his invoice the last item was “30 minutes: preparing and faxing invoice”.
Chuck Schick on August 31, 2008 at 11:53 AM

Oh my God. Reminds me of the guy who sends not one, but two business cards with every invoice, letter and package.

Or someone who links their name to their blog, and then also ends their comment with their blog address with every post. Sorry, pet peeve of mine. Being charged for an activity that shouldn’t cost anything and annoying self promotion.

wise_man on August 31, 2008 at 11:57 AM

Sven, how long do you plan to keep posting? What is going on down by you?

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 11:55 AM

A nice sunny day and clear as a bell….gonna go help the neighbor move her electronics into storage before she leaves and then finish my last minute shopping.

I’ll post ’til the power dies or the web goes out.

I’ll keep posting here ’til Dave Rywall succeeds in getting me lynched since I guess he thinks my double entendres on Palin were earnest.

I’d like to thank everyone for their wellwishes and let them know it means a lot to us that the support individuals gave was a lot more evenly spread than government aid during the twisted sisters Katrina/Rita.

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 11:58 AM

For those who like to savor Obama’s “gravitas” provider:

In 1987, Joe Biden ran as a Democratic presidential candidate. When the campaign began, Biden was considered a potentially strong candidate. In September 1987, the campaign ran into trouble when he plagiarized a political speech by the then-leader of the British Labour Party. It was also alleged that, during his time as a law student at Syracuse, Biden had plagiarized a law review article. Biden said it was inadvertent due to his not knowing the proper rules of legal citation, and Biden was permitted to retake the course after having received a Failing grade. When questioned by a New Hampshire resident about his grades in law school, Biden had inaccurately recollected graduating in the “top half” of his class when he actually graduated at the bottom of his class, 76th from 85. Biden also claimed that he had attended on a full scholarship, and had received three degrees. In fact, he had two majors, History and Political Science, and received a single B.A. degree, and had received a half-scholarship based on financial need. When confronted with these revelations, Biden withdrew from the nomination race on September 23, 1987. (Source – Wikipedia.org)

That video of him flailing around at a recent Obama rally like somebody’s grandpa getting stopped for a DWI was very heartwarming.

TexasJew on August 31, 2008 at 11:59 AM

We have to get Palin’s true record out there, and dismantle the “She’s a beauty queen” and not qualified bs. the media/dems are pushing

jp on August 31, 2008 at 11:39 AM

Live from New Yak it’s SUNDAY MORNING !!

sonnyspats1 on August 31, 2008 at 12:00 PM

Chuck Schick on August 31, 2008 at 11:51 AM

Here you go.

James OK on August 31, 2008 at 12:01 PM

That video of him flailing around at a recent Obama rally like somebody’s grandpa getting stopped for a DWI was very heartwarming.

TexasJew on August 31, 2008 at 11:59 AM

“The viiiiii-llaaaaa-geeeeeeeeees. America’s friendliest home town…”

Chuck Schick on August 31, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Please people PLEASE!

Can we PLEASE throw some icy-cold water on all this positive news!

Don’t you people know; celebration of continual positive news is absolutely silly, foolish, naive, delusional, partisan nonsense!

Let us all get back to caveat-riddled, hand-wringing, sweaty-lipped, “calm”, sensible, “analysis”- that clearly shows we are always SCREWED.

……..m-kay?

(Sarc-O-Level set to 11)

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 12:02 PM

I’ll post ’til the power dies or the web goes out. – Sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 11:58 AM

A chill went down my spine when I read that. You better damned well come through this, you hear?

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Obama is the empty suit, and Biden is the town drunk. Yet the members of the press continue to attack a war hero and his conservative governor VP pick. Obama’s speech had Oprah crying her eyelashes off and the rest of us asking why this man is even where he is. If he’s the best the Democrats have to offer, John McCain should win in November.

afotia on August 31, 2008 at 12:04 PM

maybe we need to get a position paper on her accomplishment thread going and generate talking points of our own on the matter to talk to undecideds.

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Probably will not be necessary. The MSM and drive-by-media will be very good at doing this job for us. They will believe they are doing real damage to the McCain/Palin ticket by pointing out all of her “frivolous” accomplishments and personal beliefs. Such as her hunting ethic, defense of the 2nd Amendment, pro-life stance, energy stance, work ethic, honesty, family values, etc.

The MSM and the DNC are so out of touch with middle America at this point that they have no idea that what they consider to be frivolous actually speaks to the inherent ethic of a very large part of America. They simply do not understand and will realize their mistake far too late to stop the damage they will do to Obama/Biden. More power to their present effort!

Yoop on August 31, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Thanks James… looks like Dukakis was up by 12 when Bush had his convention, then it was cut in half after.

Chuck Schick on August 31, 2008 at 12:06 PM

IMHO, if Obama doen’t have a sizeable, say 7 points, lead heading into the deabates, he’s not going to win.

Basilsbest on August 31, 2008 at 12:07 PM

Ten bucks says he’s seriously thinking about throwing Biden under the bus now. But who would take his place as Veep? Obama is damaged goods.

The Chewbacca Defense on August 31, 2008 at 12:08 PM

Yoop on August 31, 2008 at 12:06 PM

That is why the MSM have so much suckitudiness, they have actually bought their own line of crap.

Bishop on August 31, 2008 at 12:10 PM

Folks should not be putting a great deal of stock in polling done over the Labor Day weekend.

That’s what I would be saying if Obama was soaring, too.

Makes the weekend more pleasant though, I must say.

Karl on August 31, 2008 at 12:11 PM

Where would this clown be if not for the MSM propping him up?
Elric66 on August 31, 2008 at 11:33 AM

If there were any equitable justice he’d be going to jail with Tony Rezko.

Tony Soprano on August 31, 2008 at 12:11 PM

The MSM and the DNC are so out of touch with middle America at this point that they have no idea that what they consider to be frivolous actually speaks to the inherent ethic of a very large part of America. They simply do not understand and will realize their mistake far too late to stop the damage they will do to Obama/Biden. More power to their present effort!

Yoop on August 31, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Superglue for the fragmented portions of the GOP. Causing tepid pubbies to vote for the GOP as a positive instead of against Obama. May they be granted strength to continue.

a capella on August 31, 2008 at 12:12 PM

I spoke to my Conservative values by taking out my wallet for McCain/Palin. They said the cutoff for donating is this coming Thurs. Please do the same. We can’t let Obama turn out country into a Socialist 2nd class country.

marklmail on August 31, 2008 at 12:13 PM

If he’s the best the Democrats have to offer, John McCain should win in November.

afotia on August 31, 2008 at 12:04 PM

John Kerry gave President Bush a run for his money, earning the 2nd most votes in history along the way. Don’t assume anything. I would have assumed that President Bush would have won in a landslide in 2004, because Kerry was a pathetic candidate and opponent. But it was very, very close. This one will be as well and we could easily lose it if we get too cocky and don’t stay focused.

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Thanks James… looks like Dukakis was up by 12 when Bush had his convention, then it was cut in half after. – Chuck Schick on August 31, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Rush has repeatedly stated that if Obama is not ahead of McCain by at least 10 points at the end of October, he is toast.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Nice!

keepinitreal on August 31, 2008 at 12:14 PM

That is why the MSM have so much suckitudiness, they have actually bought their own line of crap.

Bishop on August 31, 2008 at 12:10 PM

Thanks, Bishop. Now, some idiot from the MSM is going to pick up your suckitudiness and I’m going to have to hear that ‘word’ non-stop for the next 2 months. I’m just starting to recover from ‘nuance’ immersion and ‘meme’ forcing … and the ever-present use of a prefix as a full word, ‘dis’. I can’t handle another right now!

progressoverpeace on August 31, 2008 at 12:16 PM

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Well, a smart person does not celebrate victory until after he has won.

Nothing is won yet, so no, no one should be celebrating anything.

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 12:16 PM

I pointed out to a friend that Palin had finally pushed through the $40B natural gas pipeline from Prudhoe to Chicago after 30 years of gridlock in the Alaskan state house. When I asked what the biggest thing Obama’s been in charge of I got “his campaign”.

So I guess running for president now make you qualified to be president, or something.

Chuck Schick on August 31, 2008 at 11:47 AM

Yes, this is what counts for accomplishments now in the Democratic Party. But what else can they talk about?

rockmom on August 31, 2008 at 12:16 PM

John Kerry gave President Bush a run for his money, earning the 2nd most votes in history along the way.

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 12:13 PM

We have a growing population. Just about every Presidential election results in the winner getting the most votes ever and the loser getting more votes than ever before. Can we please stop making this sound as if it means anything other than a growing population?

progressoverpeace on August 31, 2008 at 12:18 PM

I know I said this before, but the closer to ELECTION DAY, the more the AMERICAN VOTERS will see this EMPTY SUIT for what he is…Remember MR. LINCOLN, “some of the people all the time, all the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time”. B. HUSSEIN may be lucky to carry ILLINOIS…

pueblo1032 on August 31, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Rush has repeatedly stated that if Obama is not ahead of McCain by at least 10 points at the end of October, he is toast.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Yeah, whatever. Rush also said that the American people would never put the Democrats in charge of Congress in 2006. Look how well that prophecy turned out.

I like Rush and greatly admire him, but I don’t put any faith in anyone’s prognosis for how easily campaigns will be won or lost. This is far from over and anything can happen. The October surprise is still to come. And, as I keep saying, the same people saying that McCain is going to wipe out Obama were also saying that President Bush was going to wipe out Kerry in 2004. Didn’t happen, even though all logic said Kerry was a horrible candidate.

We have a lot of work to do in the next 60+ days. Nothing is guaranteed.

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 12:19 PM

progressoverpeace on August 31, 2008 at 12:16 PM

I agree. The last thing I want to hear now is how “suckitudiness” wasn’t sufficiently nuanced to become a full fledged meme to dis the Drive-By media.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 12:19 PM

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Well, a smart person does not celebrate victory until after he has won.

Nothing is won yet, so no, no one should be celebrating anything.

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 12:16 PM

On the other hand-

a WISE person doesn’t wallow in defeat, and spin positive developments into excrement.

Maybe all you see is shit-

Because shit- is all you’re capable of seeing-

Who’s celebrating victory?

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 12:20 PM

This bit of news will cause CNN and MSNBC to go in full throated attack mode now against McCain. If you thought they had been vicious before you ain’t seen nothing yet.

Jdripper on August 31, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Yes, this is what counts for accomplishments now in the Democratic Party. But what else can they talk about?

rockmom on August 31, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Didn’t Kerry and Edwards run on their hair?

Chuck Schick on August 31, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Can we please stop making this sound as if it means anything other than a growing population?

progressoverpeace on August 31, 2008 at 12:18 PM

We are talking about John Kerry. JOHN KERRY receiving that many votes. When many on our side were predicting a landslide for Bush, based on how pathetic was Kerry. You can attribute it to a growing population all you want, but there is no way that Kerry should have garnered that much support.

All I am saying is that we are 60 days out of the election and people are already assuming McCain-Palin has won. That is a dangerous attitude to have when there is so much hard work and campaigning to do yet.

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 12:22 PM

I guess when you give historic speeches every other day for a year the magiciness sort of wears off.

Chuck Schick on August 31, 2008 at 11:41 AM

Another fix.

Immolate on August 31, 2008 at 12:22 PM

And by the way, there hasn’t been a POTUS elected to office with 50% plus votes since the GREAT RONALD REAGAN. So knock off the crap about TOTAL number of votes garnered…

pueblo1032 on August 31, 2008 at 12:22 PM

When I heard Sarah Palin’s speech at noontime on Friday, I also saw the image of 30 million Mile-High, Obama-induced sexual afterglows turn to funereal pales, and a two-mile-high, Marxist ego balloon deflate before my very eyes. No one in the media – and I mean, NO ONE – spoke of Obama’s acceptance speech after Friday morning.

That sight was just too delicious! And Rassmussen has seemed to prove it today!

But we’re not done, no, not by a long shot. This is where WAR begins: McCain and Palin know it.

newton on August 31, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Rush also said that the American people would never put the Democrats in charge of Congress in 2006. Look how well that prophecy turned out.

I’ve been listening to his show since he first appeared on WABC radio in August of 1988. I’m not sure he ever said that (point me to the quote if I am wrong). If anything, he repeatedly warned the Republican base that if they act out of petulant spite, they will only saddle themselves with an awful Democrat-controlled Congress. Apparently, they never listed to him. And he was right.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 12:23 PM

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Heh. Like nails on a blackboard. You joke, but don’t be surprised if Biden doesn’t steal that line and put it into his standard stump speech.

progressoverpeace on August 31, 2008 at 12:23 PM

progressoverpeace on August 31, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Heh.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 12:25 PM

a WISE person doesn’t wallow in defeat, and spin positive developments into excrement.

Maybe all you see is sh*t-

Because sh*t- is all you’re capable of seeing-

Who’s celebrating victory?

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 12:20 PM

So I guess the advice of “Great Kid. Don’t get Cocky” was “wallowing in defeat” and “only seeing sh*t”? Please. I’m pointing to history. No campaign is won in August or September. 2000 was close. 2004 was close. 2008 will be close. 2000 and 2004 were won based on a LOT of hard work by grassroots, not assuming victory.

No one here is only seeing sh*t and wallowing in defeat. I’m focusing on the task at hand and understand that these polls don’t mean anything. They have been changing all over the place since last year. They will be all over the place for the next 2 months as well.

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 12:26 PM

Gallup has been exposed as the joke of the polling services. Zogby and Rassmussen are now the class of the field. All one must do to digest this fact, is look at how many polls in the news cycle (MSM) that read Gallup-CBS poll shows; Gallup-NYT poll shows…

Anything that attaches itself to any piece of the MSM is now recognized as biased towards the left. The only question is “how biased was this report” rather than “was it biased.”

CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN are all recognized as property of the DNC.

I say, boycott anything and everything that includes the names WESTINGHOUSE / CBS INC. , GENERAL ELECTRIC, VIACOM INTERNATIONAL INC., DISNEY / ABC / CAP, TIME-WARNER TBS – AOL ….. How do we fight such biased behavior “fight back by punishing those responsible”…..

Keemo on August 31, 2008 at 12:27 PM

All I am saying is that we are 60 days out of the election and people are already assuming McCain-Palin has won.
Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 12:22 PM

I see this as enthusiasm to a ticket that was – not too long ago – seen as something that we should throw to Obama just so we could try again in 4 years with the hopes of getting a real conservative next time.

I find this to be something to have a lot of enthusiasm for. More than seven millions of reasons to have more enthusiasm, in fact.

wise_man on August 31, 2008 at 12:27 PM

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Let’s see- 2006 elections = disaster!

2004 elections = NEAR disaster!

2008 elections = disaster OR NEAR disaster AGAIN!

Does that about size up your position?

Or did I miss sumptin’?

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 12:27 PM

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