McCain: “We have raised $4 million on the Internet. I wish I had taken her a month ago.”

posted at 2:00 pm on August 31, 2008 by Allahpundit

Ed’s away doing convention prep work and I’m on my way out the door, so here’s a clip and some choice links to tide you over for a few hours. Maverick’s answer to Chris Wallace about her foreign policy judgment is the best he can do for the moment but patently unconvincing until we hear from Palin herself. I wonder who she’ll give her first policy interview to; smart money says “Hannity & Colmes,” where she’ll get softballs from Sean and questions about how it feels to be an unfit mother from Alan.

Note what McCain says at the beginning about the spirit of reform, as Palin’s “maverick” appeal is the common thread running through the NYT’s and WaPo’s pieces on the selection process this morning. The Times insists he wanted Lieberman — with Grahamnesty pushing so hard for him that he alienated other McCain advisors — until he finally yielded to the base (a Maverick first!) and settled on a “kindred spirit” whereas the Post cites aides who claim it wasn’t so much the social con backlash that decided things as McCain wanting to be as true as he could to his own political outlook. (In which case, he did a good job: “There’s a real question whether she’s a Republican or a Democrat,” says one Alaska Republican to the LA Times.) Here’s the money bit from the NYT:

Last Sunday, 24 hours after Mr. Obama announced his running mate, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, Mr. McCain met with his senior campaign team at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Phoenix. By then, campaign advisers said, the group had long decided that Mr. McCain’s “experience versus change” argument against Mr. Obama had run its course, to the extent that it had worked at all…

In any case, one campaign adviser said, Mr. McCain hated running as the wizened old hand of experience. Despite his embrace this year of President Bush and many of the administration’s policies, Mr. McCain, a campaign adviser said, still saw himself as the maverick who delighted in occasionally throwing political grenades at his own Party.

And here’s the money bit from WaPo, emphasizing the personal drama of the pick:

On Wednesday Palin flew to Flagstaff. That night she conferred with Schmidt and Salter. The next morning around 7, the three of them, along with a Palin aide, climbed into an SUV with tinted windows to begin the 45-minute drive to McCain’s retreat in Sedona.

When they arrived, McCain offered Palin some coffee before taking her to a bend in a creek on the property where there are places to sit and a hawk’s nest looming above. It is one of McCain’s favorite places, and the two talked alone there until they were joined by McCain’s wife, Cindy, who is described as having played a key role throughout the selection process.

After about an hour, Palin joined her aide on the deck of McCain’s cabin, while the candidate and his wife went for a walk along the creek. When they returned, McCain held one last session with aides Schmidt and Salter. Then he offered Palin the job. The deal was sealed “with a handshake, a pat on the back,” one adviser said.

Interesting how they’re emphasizing Cindy McCain’s role; she’s also listed as one of the six advisors in McCain’s inner circle who helped decide on the pick. Exit question reading assignment: The Palin profile from Newsweek, which, I kid you not, is almost glowing. Whether that’s a function of her having charmed their reporters or the magazine feeling they owed Maverick one after having submerged themselves in the tank for Obama, I don’t know, but their seat on Straight Talk Airways should be secure after this. It’s also the first story I’ve seen address whether Team Maverick looked into the Troopergate scandal that Alaska investigators are set to report on … on October 31st. Cross those fingers:

Palin’s approval ratings among Alaskans, once as high as 90 percent, have dropped to a still robust 76 percent in a recent poll.

The McCain campaign did not appear too concerned that the investigation would turn into a nasty October surprise. Asked about Palin’s troubles back home, a senior McCain adviser, who declined to be named discussing private strategy, said the campaign had looked very closely at the allegations involving Palin’s ex-brother-in-law and was “comfortable” that there are no shoes to drop that could complicate the campaign. The adviser declined to say if McCain had asked Palin about it directly.


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I’m on my way out the door

Hot date with KP to spend some of that crazy blog money?

amerpundit on August 31, 2008 at 2:02 PM

I’m on my way out the door

Yeah right. We know you never leave your room.

lorien1973 on August 31, 2008 at 2:03 PM

Ed’s away doing convention prep work and I’m on my way out the door

Then will post this here since no one will be on here ot put it up

Joe Biden received 5 deferments to avoid going to Veitnam

William Amos on August 31, 2008 at 2:04 PM

The McCain campaign did not appear too concerned that the investigation would turn into a nasty October surprise. Asked about Palin’s troubles back home, a senior McCain adviser, who declined to be named discussing private strategy, said the campaign had looked very closely at the allegations involving Palin’s ex-brother-in-law and was “comfortable” that there are no shoes to drop that could complicate the campaign. The adviser declined to say if McCain had asked Palin about it directly.

We shall see. Obama can push this meme but even in the extreme of Quayle we have seen bashing the VP contest does not make for a successful campaign.

William Amos on August 31, 2008 at 2:06 PM

the two talked alone there until they were joined by McCain’s wife, Cindy, who is described as having played a key role throughout the selection process.

That’s even scarier than the idea that McCain wanted Lieberman. There is no getting around the fact that the woman is very very creepy in a big-haired trailer park version of the Theresa Heinz Kerry creepiness.

highhopes on August 31, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Colmes has posted on his blog explaining why he took down the post questioning Palin’s pre-natal care. The comments, he says, were in poor taste.

http://www.alan.com/2008/08/31/its-about-judgment-stupid/

CanadianGuy on August 31, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Ya’ll gotta watch this. Hillary’s love triangle.

Guardian on August 31, 2008 at 2:08 PM

This morning’s Fox News Sunday coffee talk, I disagree that should Palin make a minor slip, America will bury her and McCain alive. She’d only “lose” the votes she wouldn’t have received regardless of perfection or slip. That critique was offered to cover Fox’s ass.

Mark Levin is right about Palin.

maverick muse on August 31, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Wow I am actually starting to like Juan John…he almsot seems likeable.

“Infact she’s got a son who’s getting ready to go.”

Game, set, and match John….

I admit I detest your immigration views still but I had always mistakenly taken for granted that your gravitas came from press adulation….

John YOU ARE A MAGNIFICENT BASTARD.

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 2:10 PM

William Amos on August 31, 2008 at 2:06 PM

The democrats don’t want to be in the business of defending a cop who tasered a child and threatened to shoot his wife.

lorien1973 on August 31, 2008 at 2:10 PM

Joe Biden received 5 deferments to avoid going to Veitnam

William Amos on August 31, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Let the draft dodger remarks begin….

highhopes on August 31, 2008 at 2:11 PM

I’m sensing a certain aire and pride as McCain talks about Sarah and her experience… He is unflinching in his responses to Wallace who is pressing for a token expression on “uncle”.

singlemalt_18 on August 31, 2008 at 2:11 PM

maybe the idiot will take a lesson from this. people will donate money to your campaign when they feel you represent them on issues. look at palin’s stance on issues as opposed to your’s and adjust accordingly.

chasdal on August 31, 2008 at 2:12 PM

Ya’ll gotta watch this. Hillary’s love triangle.

Guardian on August 31, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Oh man, that’s tough. I guess Bill’s pro-Obama speech was a little too pro-Obama. LOL

lorien1973 on August 31, 2008 at 2:12 PM

Joe Biden received 5 deferments to avoid going to Veitnam

William Amos on August 31, 2008 at 2:04 PM

A democrap avoiding a democrap war.

Zorro on August 31, 2008 at 2:13 PM

lorien1973 on August 31, 2008 at 2:10 PM

Why not? They defend worse people. Bill Ayers comes to mind. The “cop” thing might give them trouble, though.

Quisp on August 31, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Interesting how they’re emphasizing Cindy McCain’s role; she’s also listed as one of the six advisors in McCain’s inner circle who helped decide on the pick.

Fine, Newsweek, she’s inherited her father’s business. At the same time, she’s running the thing now and, so far as I know, she hasn’t run it into the ground. She has a master’s degree (education, maybe special education). She engages in some very noteworthy philanthropy. She’s had some significant real life experience. What else? Yes, she’s imperfect, but I think she’s worth a consultation. It’s not as if she’s Woodrow Wilson’s wife trying to cover up his disability.

For what it’s worth, I far prefer hearing that McCain consults Cindy than I do hearing that Obama consults his wife.

BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Quisp on August 31, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Imagine this.

In a debate, Biden suggests that Palin overstepped her authority in trying to get that cop fired.

Palin responds. Hey, if you think that tasering kids and threatening to kill your wife means you should keep a badge; then I’d disagree.

GSM.

lorien1973 on August 31, 2008 at 2:18 PM

If McCain’s guys are convinced troopergate is nothing, that’s good news

lodge on August 31, 2008 at 2:18 PM

For what it’s worth, I far prefer hearing that McCain consults Cindy than I do hearing that Obama consults his wife.

Nobody consults Obama’s wife, she runs the show and tells them what to do, honky!

JAW on August 31, 2008 at 2:20 PM

What the hell does “Foreign Policy Experience” mean in the context of a VP??

What.. does someone have to practice using a passport?

My God.. everyone is taking stupid pills and just blindly going along wiht these cliche phrases that mean nothing.

VinceP1974 on August 31, 2008 at 2:21 PM

That’s even scarier than the idea that McCain wanted Lieberman. There is no getting around the fact that the woman is very very creepy in a big-haired trailer park version of the Theresa Heinz Kerry creepiness.

highhopes on August 31, 2008 at 2:07 PM

You scared of a wife and husband discussing a major decision? Perhaps you should pull the banky over your head and just tremble.

a capella on August 31, 2008 at 2:22 PM

obama’s state senate job was PART-TIME.

his first FULL time job in gubmint was as US Senator, and he held it for 150 days before declaring.

he is unprepeared to be POTUS.

Palin is ready to be veep – and her main job will be (i predict/hope) to kick ass on corruption and pork.

BRAVO MCCAIN!

reliapundit on August 31, 2008 at 2:26 PM

McCainPimp: “We have raised $4 million on the Internet. I wish I had taken her a month ago.”

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 2:28 PM

What the hell does “Foreign Policy Experience” mean in the context of a VP??

VinceP1974 on August 31, 2008 at 2:21 PM

She has more Commander-in-Chief experience than Obama and Biden and McCain combined.

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 2:29 PM

Credit where credit’s due to Grahamnesty, if he really wanted Lieberman he’s been doing a great job as a public surrogate getting out front and making the case for Palin on the talk shows

Dudley Smith on August 31, 2008 at 2:31 PM

For what it’s worth, I far prefer hearing that McCain consults Cindy than I do hearing that Obama consults his wife.

BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 2:16 PM

Yeah – A first lady and a first gentleman
(has anyone checked out Mr. Palin?) in the Whitehouse.

mary jo on August 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM

An asthma disqual?

Yeah, sure:

Up until just a few years ago, receiving a medical waiver for asthma was virtually impossible. That’s still the case, if the applicant *currently* has asthma, or if they have a history of asthma that was reliably diagnosed, after their 13th birthday. Under new MEPS policy, dated 4 June 2004, asthma is a disqualifier, only if it was present after the 13th birthday. Applicants with a history of asthma will be required to sign an official statement, certifying that there have been no attacks (including exercise induced asthma) since the age of 13. For details, see New Asthma, ADD/ADHD Standards.

So does Drunkard Joe still have asthma? Or does copious amounts of liquor keep it under control?

BobMbx on August 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM

There is no getting around the fact that the woman is very very creepy in a big-haired trailer park version of the Theresa Heinz Kerry creepiness.

highhopes on August 31, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Yes, a successful, smart woman who has devoted much of her life to humanitarian causes must be scary to the libs. She actually walks the walk, rather than condemn her country as “downright mean.” But I guess that helping to provide corrective surgery for third-world children with cleft palates is a far less noble thing than whatever it is Michelle Obama does. The only “creepy” spouse in this election season is the one who chides her fellow countrymen that if elected, her husband will force them to work and shed their so-called “cynicism.”

Cindy McCain represents the very best of America, as does Sarah Palin. Must be one reason why so many on the Left feel the need to character-assasinate them.

Dariaanne on August 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM

Then will post this here since no one will be on here ot put it up

Joe Biden received 5 deferments to avoid going to Veitnam

William Amos on August 31, 2008 at 2:04 PM

wow

some musical selections:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GYXm7n62nU

saw these guys in concert recently. great show

same band:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJRthpxDM10

for Bishop who didn’t like Little Big Town because they are too country

funky chicken on August 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM

Little Known Fact: Sarah Palin’s son is going to Iraq after the Surge, because a Palin during the Surge would have been unfair.

http://www.palinfacts.com/

Vincenzo on August 31, 2008 at 2:33 PM

Laura Bush is a lady, too.

mary jo on August 31, 2008 at 2:35 PM

McCainPimp: “We have raised $4 million on the Internet. I wish I had taken her a month ago.”
MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 2:28 PM

MB4 I bow before your superior, serious grasp of the aura and integrity of office of both Senator McCain and Governor Palin.

Hat’s off big guy.

*wink*

sven

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 2:36 PM

Nobody consults Obama’s wife, she runs the show and tells them what to do, honky!

JAW on August 31, 2008 at 2:20 PM

That thought occurred to me after I hit “Submit Comment.” Cracker!

BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 2:36 PM

I am flabbergasted at the amount of hate towards Palin right now on the internet. I think Sen. McCain hit a nerve.

terryannonline on August 31, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Let’s see- Wallace criticized Palin for being focused on running her State in March 2007, and NOT being concerned about the Surge?

Uhm- so she’s focused on HER responsibilites at hand, and that’s a bad thing…..how again?

McCain’s performance in this interview and the talking points that he makes, are running a collective chill down the back of the Camp Obama.

And if not- then Barry’s in even MORE trouble than he knows.

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 2:38 PM

While management has left the building, OT, but interesting:

PUMA’s document Obama BUYING the superdelegates.

fred5678 on August 31, 2008 at 2:38 PM

Joe Biden received 5 deferments to avoid going to Veitnam

William Amos on August 31, 2008 at 2:04 PM

More than Cheney? Delicious!

ctmom on August 31, 2008 at 2:38 PM

Bravo McCain. You upended the dems so that they don’t know what hit em. Another surge that worked its magic.

eaglewingz08 on August 31, 2008 at 2:39 PM

I am flabbergasted at the amount of hate towards Palin right now on the internet. I think Sen. McCain hit a nerve.

terryannonline on August 31, 2008 at 2:37 PM

No- he hit their PANIC button!

In combat it’s called “Spraying and praying”.

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 2:39 PM

Joe Biden received 5 deferments to avoid going to Veitnam

William Amos on August 31, 2008 at 2:04 PM

The democrat’s Dick Cheney then? I thought “we” liked Dick Cheney here.

Well not “quite” the same, as Dick Cheney was never ineligible with a 1-Y.

“A month after undergoing a physical exam in April 1968, Biden received a Selective Service classification of 1-Y, meaning he was available for service only in the event of national emergency.”

Although it was not that difficult to have a 1-Y overturned if one wanted to have it overturned.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 2:40 PM

Colmes has posted on his blog explaining why he took down the post questioning Palin’s pre-natal care. The comments, he says, were in poor taste.

http://www.alan.com/2008/08/31/its-about-judgment-stupid/

CanadianGuy on August 31, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Wow. He’s getting SLAMMED in the comments. Again.

RushBaby on August 31, 2008 at 2:40 PM

Colmes has posted on his blog explaining why he took down the post questioning Palin’s pre-natal care. The comments, he says, were in poor taste.

http://www.alan.com/2008/08/31/its-about-judgment-stupid/

CanadianGuy on August 31, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Wow. He’s getting SLAMMED in the comments. Again.

RushBaby on August 31, 2008 at 2:40 PM

Looks like the Left is starting to feel their very own Gustav-

I believe it looks like a CAT 10…….

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 2:42 PM

William Amos on August 31, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Followed the link to your blog, and discovered that Biden went to a private high school, Archmere Academy. I don’t know how elite it was, but it looks like we have the “private school educated, but against vouchers” ticket on the Dem side.

Buford Gooch on August 31, 2008 at 2:44 PM

More than Cheney? Delicious!

ctmom on August 31, 2008 at 2:38 PM

Nope. Google is your friend.

“When Cheney became eligible for the draft, he was a supporter of the Vietnam War but did not serve in the military. Instead, he applied for and received five draft deferments. In 1989, The Washington Post writer, George C. Wilson, interviewed Cheney as the next Secretary of Defense; when asked about his deferments, Cheney reportedly said, “I had other priorities in the ’60s than military service.’”

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 2:46 PM

“I wish I had taken her a month ago” sounds a little Rhett Butlerish. Couldn’t he have worded it a little differently? LOL!

ctmom on August 31, 2008 at 2:46 PM

Why not? They defend worse people. Bill Ayers comes to mind. The “cop” thing might give them trouble, though.

Quisp on August 31, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Are you kidding? The guy threatened to murder Palin’s father. He used a taser on a child. He flashed his badge on more than one occasion, when he wanted something from somebody. He had a history of drinking and driving.

If she didn’t question the appropriateness of him being a trooper, any normal person would question her.

capitalist piglet on August 31, 2008 at 2:48 PM

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 2:46 PM

so they are equal. equally delicious!

ctmom on August 31, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Nope. Google is your friend.

“When Cheney became eligible for the draft, he was a supporter of the Vietnam War but did not serve in the military. Instead, he applied for and received five draft deferments. In 1989, The Washington Post writer, George C. Wilson, interviewed Cheney as the next Secretary of Defense; when asked about his deferments, Cheney reportedly said, “I had other priorities in the ’60s than military service.’”

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 2:46 PM

so what were Biden’s?

I mean other than reading the headlines and coming up with his wonderful mind that unleashed: “I’m just spitballin’ here but why not send Iran 200 mill no questions asked to calm the Arabs down”?

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Nobody consults Obama’s wife, she runs the show and tells them what to do, honky!

JAW on August 31, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Can someone please pass me the WINDEX? PLEASE!

LOL

Old Hippie Vet on August 31, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Anybody have contacts at the RNC? This band is from Mississippi, would be perfect for a benefit concert for hurricane relief……

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GYXm7n62nU

funky chicken on August 31, 2008 at 2:51 PM

so they are equal. equally delicious!

ctmom on August 31, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Not really.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 2:51 PM

Can someone please pass me the WINDEX? PLEASE!

LOL

Old Hippie Vet on August 31, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Aunt Esther will rise from the ashes.

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 2:51 PM

I’ve decided to volunteer for McCain’s campaign now that he picked Sarah “Mommabear” Palin.

My brother, his wife and two young boys headed out for Mass this morning. She is an legal immigrant from Mexico (Tlaxcala) who has not been here too long. She works part-time at Taco Bell. I’ll be at 5:30 Mass later today. On the way out, I handed each of my nephews a $5 bill with instructions to put it in the collection plate, and a tip to my bro to ask the Holy Spirit to make sure it gets there.

The reason I mention this is to note that Republicans need to reach out to legal Latino immigrants. I don’t mean those commie goofballs at La Raza, but reach out to the Latino and Asian communities in this country on all the issues that impact them. YES, they know they need and want to learn English. Earlier today, we had a quick breakfast and my nephew Albert who has only been in the USA for about 4 months translated for me as I talked to my sister-in-law. I was very impressed. He REALLY wants to be an American.

Put the wall up for security and to restrict illegal immigration. But lets go for the issues that help Latinos such as: School Choice, Religious Freedom, reduction of small business regulation, English language to help them become part of all the opportunities that this great country offers. And NO, I’m definitely not for amnesty, although I find it too tough to think children born here should not be citizens.

Let’s never forget who defeated Al Gore in 2000. The high Cuban vote for Bush in Florida due to a little illegal immigrant clinging to a piece of wood off the coast of Florida for dear life.

Stop the Hate, McCain/Palin 08

Sapwolf on August 31, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Biden is Obama’s Cheney. Bush in 2000 faced serious concerns about his inexperience, so he had to pick the old bull to make him look credible.

It’s beautiful that McCain didn’t have to do that…he is looking to the future of the party and the nation.

funky chicken on August 31, 2008 at 2:53 PM

so what were Biden’s?

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 2:50 PM

I believe student deferments and then a 1-Y which made him ineligible, although if he really had wanted to he likely could have had it overturned.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 2:53 PM

But I guess that helping to provide corrective surgery for third-world children with cleft palates is a far less noble thing than whatever it is Michelle Obama does.

Michelle Obama works as a “community outreach director” (diversity pimp) for a Chicago hospital — seeing to it that a portion of the hospital’s contracting business goes to minority applicants, rather than just the most qualified applicants. One of Michelle’s recent major projects has been developing a program that keeps poor black patients from Chicago’s southside from using the hospital’s emergency room, by shifting those non-paying patients onto local free clinics run by charitable organizations (despite the fact that Michelle’s hospital gets government funding and spends less than comparable hospitals on providing medical services to the poor). Nice, huh?

AZCoyote on August 31, 2008 at 2:53 PM

That’s even scarier than the idea that McCain wanted Lieberman. There is no getting around the fact that the woman is very very creepy in a big-haired trailer park version of the Theresa Heinz Kerry creepiness.

highhopes on August 31, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Are you sure you know who Cindy McCain is? If I had isolated your description without seeing the quote you were responding to, I would never have guessed you were talking about her.

“Trailer park”? Seriously? That’s a meme I haven’t even seen on DU.

capitalist piglet on August 31, 2008 at 2:53 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney

Vietnam War draft
When Cheney became eligible for the draft, he was a supporter of the Vietnam War but did not serve in the military. Instead, he applied for and received five draft deferments. In 1989, The Washington Post writer, George C. Wilson, interviewed Cheney as the next Secretary of Defense; when asked about his deferments, Cheney reportedly said, “I had other priorities in the ’60s than military service.”[15] Cheney testified during his confirmation hearings in 1989 that he received deferments to finish a college career that lasted six years rather than four, owing to sub par academic performance and the need to work to pay for his education. Initially, he was not called up because the Selective Service System was only taking older men. When he became eligible for the draft, he applied for four deferments in sequence. He applied for his fifth exemption on January 19, 1966, when his wife was about 10 weeks pregnant. He was granted 3-A status, the “hardship” exemption, which excluded men with children or dependent parents. In January 1967, Cheney turned 26 and was no longer eligible for the draft.[16]

Joe Biden also missed because of education marriage….your point?

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 2:55 PM

I believe student deferments and then a 1-Y which made him ineligible, although if he really had wanted to he likely could have had it overturned.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 2:53 PM

in essence similar to Cheney’s…Cheney took a bit longer to graduate but I fail to see the point.

Both used the system I don’t particularly find it as much gaming the system as a certain gray haired AZrkansan….I thought we were past this?…although it did not stop Biden from attacking Bush on service which is rich all things considered.

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 2:57 PM

Up until just a few years ago, receiving a medical waiver for asthma was virtually impossible.

When I joined the National Guard, I was assigned to the Company Commanders tank. He had asthma and couldn’t do a MOP drill (chemical warfare, gas masks etc.) Even in the Navy Riverine unit that I served with in in Viet Nam, I don’t know how well he would have preformed. If Biden had asthma, I wouldn’t want to be anywhere close to him in combat or even in peace time drills.

Give Biden a pass on this one.

Linh_My on August 31, 2008 at 2:58 PM

“Maverick’s answer to Chris Wallace about her foreign policy judgment is the best he can do for the moment but patently unconvincing until we hear from Palin herself”

Can someone please explain to me what “foreign policy judgement” Obama has that “trumps” Palin’s??

Static21 on August 31, 2008 at 2:58 PM

Have the debates been scheduled yet?

ctmom on August 31, 2008 at 2:59 PM

Joe Biden also missed because of education marriage….your point?

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 2:55 PM

Cheney was a supporter of the Vietnam war and did not go even though he easily could have.

Biden, as far as I know, was not a supporter of the Vietnam war and would have had to have fought his 1-Y classification to have gone.

Big difference.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Cindy McCain = John McCain adviser on veep pick

Caroline Kennedy = Obama adviser on veep pick.

Don’t go there, lefties.

I know nothing against Caroline Kennedy, except that she has avoided media scrutiny for much of her life, and is now at least partly responsible for Barack Hussein Obama picking Lazy Joe Biden.

But you can’t criticize one heiress and not the other. Let’s see how their credentials as “advisers” stack up!

MrScribbler on August 31, 2008 at 3:07 PM

I believe student deferments and then a 1-Y which made him ineligible, although if he really had wanted to he likely could have had it overturned.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 2:53 PM

So we can all agree that the Left-Wing “chickenhawk” talking points have been deemed hypocritical and disingenuous.

Good. Glad that’s finally off the table.

Do you think the Left should apologize for that- MB4?

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 3:08 PM

Cheney was a supporter of the Vietnam war and did not go even though he easily could have.

Biden, as far as I know, was not a supporter of the Vietnam war and would have had to have fought his 1-Y classification to have gone.

Big difference.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:07 PM

So a traitor is only a traitor if he doesn’t support treason?

But a traitor is a patriot if he has supported treason all along?

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 3:10 PM

in essence similar to Cheney’s…

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 2:57 PM

I guess it all depends on what the meaning of sex is and what the meaning of similar is and what the meaning of is, is.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:11 PM

When I joined the National Guard, I was assigned to the Company Commanders tank. He had asthma and couldn’t do a MOP drill (chemical warfare, gas masks etc.) Even in the Navy Riverine unit that I served with in in Viet Nam, I don’t know how well he would have preformed. If Biden had asthma, I wouldn’t want to be anywhere close to him in combat or even in peace time drills.

Give Biden a pass on this one.

Linh_My on August 31, 2008 at 2:58 PM

what makes me smile….

http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2008/08/obama-biden-fir.html

The Obama-Biden team is the first national Democratic ticket since the ticket of FDR and Henry Wallace in 1940 that does not include a candidate who has worn an American military uniform. It should be noted that Sen. Biden has a son, Beau, who is a captain in the Delaware Army National Guard who may deploy to Iraq in October. Even former Gov. Bill Clinton, who very skillfully delayed and avoided two induction orders from his Draft Board in Arkansas, at least could say his vice presidential candidate had worn an Army uniform. Sen. Al Gore pulled the miracle of serving only four months in a public relations job for an engineering company in Viet Nam before he was sent home early and discharged early in 1972. In violation of Army regulations, Gore conspicuously wore his uniform while making a political TV commercial for his father, Sen. Al Gore, Sr., in 1970.

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 3:13 PM

I guess it all depends on what the meaning of sex is and what the meaning of similar is and what the meaning of is, is.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Or perhaps- what the meaning of troll is……..

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 3:13 PM

John could also say that she’ll have 8 years of his presidency to become expert in foreign policy issues before her own 8 years as president.

Thanks Hillary. :-)

John may have saved the Republican party for the next 16 years. Hoo-ah.

Mojave Mark on August 31, 2008 at 3:13 PM

Mr. McCain, a campaign adviser said, still saw himself as the maverick who delighted in occasionally throwing political grenades at his own Party.

And that’s why, despite my enthusiasm about Palin, that I still haven’t decided to vote for the man. If I do, I know I’ll regret it. He’ll make me regret it.

paul006 on August 31, 2008 at 3:13 PM

So a traitor is only a traitor if he doesn’t support treason?

But a traitor is a patriot if he has supported treason all along?

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 3:10 PM

I am not exactly sure where you have pulled patriot from and I have absolutely no idea where you have pulled traitor and treason from.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:14 PM

Little Known Fact: Sarah Palin’s son is going to Iraq after the Surge, because a Palin during the Surge would have been unfair.http://www.palinfacts.com/Vincenzo

Who is this deranged web holder?

wepeople on August 31, 2008 at 3:14 PM

I am not exactly sure where you have pulled patriot from and I have absolutely no idea where you have pulled traitor and treason from.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:14 PM

the same place I pulled “chickenhawk” from

- funny you didn’t ask about that term………

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 3:15 PM

Or perhaps- what the meaning of troll is……..

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 3:13 PM

There has just got to be some rather pronounced negative correlation between maturity level and how often someone uses that word.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:18 PM

The MSM will hit her on her pro-hunting. They are already publishing her with animals she’s downed. That’s all they have.

marklmail on August 31, 2008 at 3:19 PM

the same place I pulled “chickenhawk” from

- funny you didn’t ask about that term………

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 3:15 PM

You are getting very strange.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:20 PM

There has just got to be some rather pronounced negative correlation between maturity level and how often someone uses that word.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:18 PM

And here I was thinking in terms of a correlation between justification, and how often someone ATTRACTS that word.

…ahem…

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 3:20 PM

the same place I pulled “chickenhawk” from

- funny you didn’t ask about that term………

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 3:15 PM
You are getting very strange.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:20 PM

And you are getting very transparent.

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 3:21 PM

There is no getting around the fact that the woman is very very creepy in a big-haired trailer park version of the Theresa Heinz Kerry creepiness. – highhopes on August 31, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Perhaps you get that impression because Cindy McCain has very light blonde hair, ice-blue eyes and pale skin. Her eyes more than anything, in my opinion, give her a startling appearance. There is no question that she is strikingly beautiful, but in an otherworldly, almost coldly ethereal way.

Mrs. Hienz, while not an unattractive woman, exudes a certain smug, Euro-trash, noblesse oblige lizardness that makes my skin crawl. And when she speaks I want reach for a nearby crucifix, just in case.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 3:23 PM

There is no getting around the fact that the woman is very very creepy in a big-haired trailer park version of the Theresa Heinz Kerry creepiness.

highhopes on August 31, 2008 at 2:07 PM

If this is the way you act in person, it is no wonder that you are such a bitter person.

I suggest you practice some of the Christian principles with which you so often browbeat others.

Show a modicum of class, please.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2008 at 3:24 PM

Cheney was a supporter of the Vietnam war and did not go even though he easily could have…Biden, as far as I know, was not a supporter of the Vietnam war and would have had to have fought his 1-Y classification to have gone. Big difference. – MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Here’s an even bigger difference: Biden is on the ticket in 2008. Cheney is not. Neither is Bush. Let it go.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 3:30 PM

McCain Pimp: “We have raised $4 million on the Internet. I wish I had taken her a month ago.”
MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 2:28 PM

MB4 I bow before your superior, serious grasp of the aura and integrity of office of both Senator McCain and Governor Palin.

Hat’s off big guy.

*wink*

sven

sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 2:36 PM

Well that’s what it sounded like. Perhaps Juan should have phrased it differently. Maybe he should have chosen Joe afterall.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:31 PM

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:31 PM

You stay classy, MB.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 3:32 PM

And you are getting very transparent.

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 3:21 PM

I am an open book. You are just myopic.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:34 PM

As Gov of Alaska, the frontline against Russia, Sarah Palin is the CnC of its National Guard, the only one with full time active duties manning our largest missile defense system. With that in mind she probably has security clearances we don’t even know about. Remember Russia is only about fifty miles from Alaska so she would have to be well versed in what is going on there with regular briefings since they share territorial waters. Being Gov. of Alaska is quite a bit different than being Gov. of Iowa. Plus she has to work with the Canadian government on various issues. I am not worried about her foreign policy bona fides at all or her ability to negotiate.

goat on August 31, 2008 at 3:35 PM

You stay classy, MB.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 3:32 PM

I try. I would never have put it the way Juan did. He better bring Joe along with him again.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:36 PM

I would just like to point out that Slublog’s point yesterday seems exactly right. When questioned on experience, Mac said “Oh no, she’s got…she’s got the right judgment. She’s got the right judgment.”

Twice said to emphasize, that’s the new line.

Spirit of 1776 on August 31, 2008 at 3:36 PM

I am an open book. You are just myopic.

MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:34 PM

“Beware the man of one book.”
- St. Thomas Aquinas

You can borrow my glasses….

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 3:38 PM

And they can play the line that she was in Iraq before Obama, etc. I think they are in good shape here. Just good performance in the debate, and show command of issues.

Spirit of 1776 on August 31, 2008 at 3:40 PM

I am an open book. – MB4 on August 31, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Unfortunately, it’s a comic book.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 3:40 PM

Here’s an even bigger difference: Biden is on the ticket in 2008. Cheney is not. Neither is Bush. Let it go.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 3:30 PM

I took MB4′s post to be pointing out that no one on the right should be attacking Joe Biden over not serving during Vietnam, since the right was perfectly okay with Cheney not serving. And MB4 did not bring it up, he simply responded to someone else bringing up Joe Biden. So long as the right let’s go of attacking Biden on the issue, then there is no reason for anyone – including MB4 – to bring up the comparison to Cheney. But, if someone wants to play the game in the future and attack Biden, expect MB4 to call them out on it.

While we are on the subject, calling out Barack Obama on not having any kids serving is a little ridiculous, since his kids, if I remember correctly, are nowhere near old enough to even be in the military.

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 3:41 PM

And they can play the line that she was in Iraq before Obama, etc. I think they are in good shape here. Just good performance in the debate, and show command of issues.

Spirit of 1776 on August 31, 2008 at 3:40 PM

I think so too. But I never underestimate the ability of the Left and the mass media to fool the American public into believing lies and mistruths and smears. The only reason they didn’t convince the American public with those TANG memos was because the bloggers caught them and caused such a stir that the media had to address it. But they sure as hell tried to steal that election for Kerry with smears. They will try it again, you can be certain.

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 3:43 PM

So long as the right let’s go of attacking Biden on the issue, then there is no reason for anyone – including MB4 – to bring up the comparison to Cheney. But, if someone wants to play the game in the future and attack Biden, expect MB4 to call them out on it.

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 3:41 PM

And if anyone attacks Cheney on this issue-

can expect MB4 to…….do what again?

FiveWays on August 31, 2008 at 3:44 PM

Nice, huh?

AZCoyote on August 31, 2008 at 2:53 PM

Sadly, that’s not surprising. And on a related note, why does no one in the media give Cindy (and by extension Sen. McCain) credit for adopting a child from Bangladesh? John McCain knew nothing about it until his wife came home with a baby in his arms and announced, “Meet your new daughter.” And they have raised this child with as much love and care as their biological children.

We hear all about Obama’s race (except of course, his caucasian half) but no kudos to the McCain family for adopting a baby who doesn’t share their racial heritage. Why is that?

Ah, forget it! I already know the answer.

Seriously, comparing Cindy McCain to trailor trash is one of the most ludicrous things I’ve heard, though not quite as low as claiming Sarah Palin “covered” for her teenage daughter’s pregnancy and is thus baby Trig’s grandmother. But by all means, let’s criticize Cindy for having a fair complexion, light blue eyes and blonde hair!

So much for reasoned politcal discourse.

Dariaanne on August 31, 2008 at 3:44 PM

Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 3:41 PM

Good points, all. I stand instructed. Thanks!

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 3:46 PM

That is exactly what I said back on the other Palin post this AM.

It was a very well thought out, well planned choice!

Change trumps experience this year, I would bet the campaign’s internal polls tell them that.

Bill Clinton pointed the way — the ads practically write themselves, here are some examples.

David

LifeTrek on August 31, 2008 at 3:46 PM

if I remember correctly, are nowhere near old enough to even be in the military. Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 3:41 PM

They’re almost old enough to be punished with a baby though.

Mojave Mark on August 31, 2008 at 3:47 PM

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