Jonah Goldberg to Palin: Hit the left-wing feminists
posted at 1:00 pm on August 31, 2008 by Allahpundit
I couldn’t agree more. Look: She’s not going to win over Hillaryites. She made an obligatory pitch to them at the Dayton rally because you can’t be a woman in politics today without genuflecting to our new feminist pope, but the hardcore Hillary fans are the sort of self-congratulatory “raised consciousness” liberals who’ll regard the Palin pick as something insulting, to be aggrieved about. Write them off. Go after the majority of women who fall somewhere across the rest of the spectrum. E.M. Zanotti’s a conservative feminist and her feelings about the pick are clear. Ann Althouse is a centrist feminist and she seems plenty positive about it thus far too. Quote: “As a feminist, I love that she did not leverage herself into power through her husband and consider this an important improvement over Hillary.” Wonder of wonders, women don’t vote as a monolithic group, no matter how much our down-the-middle media would have you believe that only a pant-suited pro-choice warrior can adequately represent “authentic” feminism. Goldberg:
She needs to directly attack, albeit in a deft way, the feminist pinheads who are attacking her. She will never win over that crowd and no Republican would. But, most women — including female Democrats — don’t follow the self-described leaders of womankind. She would do enormous service to her campaign and the cause if she said “these self-appointed leftwing activists who claim to speak for all women are now claiming I’m somehow not a real woman….” and then list all of the ways she has more in common with working women than the talking heads on MSNBC. She needs to create a wedge between feminists and women. Don’t concede the assumption — the way the media always does — that NOW and that crowd speak for women. She shouldn’t do it in an angry way. She should do it in a lightly contemptuous or dismissive way. The conservative base would love it, but I think that kind of gendered populism would win-over a lot of women who like feminine strength and independence but reject the feminist label (there are a lot of them).
There are indeed a lot of them and they’re listening intently. Like Jonah says, tone is key. Anything too snide or whiny, to borrow a word used by Palin herself to describe Hillary, will be off-putting and explode in her face. But if done correctly, having the woman who’s being derided as an identity politics ploy attacking the left’s own repulsive claim to be the one true arbiter of feminine “identity” would be salutary even if it didn’t earn any extra votes. Which it probably would, if for no other reason than having her threaten their monopoly on feminism would drive the left to get even filthier towards her than they’ve already been and alienate some women in the process, in total fulfillment of the prediction made by our favorite liberal yesterday morning.
Incidentally, I think any women’s votes that she does pick up are gravy. As I’ve been saying for the past two days, the real strength of Palin on the ticket is with the base, not with the center, a point that anyone who’s been around grassroots conservatives for the past three months understands instantly. It’ll be up to McCain, now that his red-state support is rock solid, to make the case to the middle. Exit quotation: “Even if McCain loses in November, the GOP’s new standard bearer will be a younger working mother from outside Washington and not a rich businessman with perfect hair from Massachusetts. McCain may have saved the GOP at the expense of the campaign.”
Update: An early rumble:
“The Democratic party has done a disservice to women by trying to hold women hostage to the issue of Roe v. Wade,” [Carly] Fiorina said on CBS’s Face the Nation. “The truth is the most important issue to women, all the polls say this, is the economy. Women are not single issue voters.”…
The McCain adviser added that Palin “is a person who can identify with the challenges they face as women in every conceivable way, as a mother, as a mother trying to balance her work life and family life, not to mention her incredible record of reform and taking on the good old boy network. So I’ve talked to many women and they are truly excited by this pick.”
Update: Not only do I emphatically agree with this sentiment from Ross Douthat, you’d have to look hard, I suspect, to find a conservative who doesn’t. I actually found myself worrying yesterday how hard it would be on her personally if she implodes on the trail — never mind what it would mean for McCain’s chances and the GOP. If you want a testament to her appeal and the ease with which commoners like me identify with her, I can’t do better than that.
Update: Inevitably, a commenter knocks me for being paternalistic and “protective” of her in the last udpate. It’s not paternalism, though; it’s identification with her as an ordinary person, a much more valuable asset to her than her gender. I’m not worried about the poor girl having her feelings hurt, I’m imagining myself in her situation and considering how awful I’d feel if the pressure got to me.










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Sarah’Cuda is their absolute, worst nightmare.
I was hoping for Governor Palin to be chosen but did not believe it would happen. I’m only in my twenties but I think I now have an idea what it was like when Reagan first came on to the national stage. I made this video in tribute to Sarah:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quvBbcFDPI0
She is the future.
D0WNT0WN on August 31, 2008 at 1:04 PM
I’m rooting for her too. But enough with the Hillary mentions, Sarah. You’re the woman on the ticket now!!! Just focus on promoting the reasons why America needs to elect the McCain-Palin ticket in November.
eucher on August 31, 2008 at 1:05 PM
Allah, in regard to your first point: what about the many pro-Palin comments and pledges to work for the GOP ticket on the Hillary websites?
mikeyboss on August 31, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Ab.so.lu.te.ly.
One of the video clips from Newsweek, I think it was, the interviewer asked her if she had gotten questions about how can she govern with kids, and she said, can you believe it? some neanderthals did ask that question. I was amused.
Spirit of 1776 on August 31, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Eh, not such a smart idea, IMHO. don’t turn her into the “woman candidate.” the good news is that I don’t think she will take this advice…gender wars don’t seem to be her thing.
funky chicken on August 31, 2008 at 1:09 PM
Agree 100%. Emphasis on “done correctly” but all the liberal feminist Obama humpers I know and love are bashing her as “a vagina pick” and insulted by what they feel is a token political appointment. Who is “anti-woman” because she is pro-life.
She’s not going to win them over.
Dash on August 31, 2008 at 1:09 PM
I really hope, after yesterday, she tweaks her speech and removes Hillary from it. First couple times, fine, but now it’s time to move away from comparisons to the left–she’s better than them, anyhow–and start being herself and showing this country what a real washington outsider looks like.
Enoxo on August 31, 2008 at 1:10 PM
I agree with eucher. Enough with the homage to Hillary. Palin is in the position to eclipse Clinton in history. She should seize that opportunity, not with arrogance, but with confidence and strength.
Star20 on August 31, 2008 at 1:11 PM
she does it just by being herself and focusing on the issues that interest her….feminist theory isn’t an issue that interests her. not is she particularly interested in identity politics
funky chicken on August 31, 2008 at 1:12 PM
I am a woman and I have earned everything I have – myself. I believe feminism must be more about women’s accomplishments and less about the single issue of reproductive health. Professed feminists claim to be interested in things like equal work for equal pay and shattering glass ceilings wherever they exist. Sarah Palin is the embodiment of feminism because she has earned all that she has achieved. Unlike Hillary, she did not get to where she is by being married to a politician. Mrs. Palin has never earned the sympathy vote because her husband is a philanderer.
Sarah Palin should not get the women’s vote simply because she has ovaries, I don’t agree with identity politics. To the extent she represents what women have been fighting for – and she does – she deserves our vote.
HawaiiLwyr on August 31, 2008 at 1:12 PM
She will, I think after the 3 day/3 state intro. It’ll be onto Round 2.
Spirit of 1776 on August 31, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Sarah just has to be herself; honest, authentic, gutsy, intelligent and real.
Everything that Obomber and Blighden CAN’T be!
McCain/Palin ’08 V I C T O R Y !!!
J.J. Sefton on August 31, 2008 at 1:14 PM
I’ve said it before, the leftist feminists are not feminists… they’re issuists.
Enoxo on August 31, 2008 at 1:14 PM
I suspect the opposite. His pick, along with his carbon credits, global warming nonsense, etc. makes it seem like he is trying to drive capitalists out of the party. I think he could win the election at the expense of the party.
Vashta.Nerada on August 31, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Agree completely and utterly. I did the same. Not even if she implodes! Just read any message board and see the utter filth being posted about her by the progressive Obama possums.
Dash on August 31, 2008 at 1:15 PM
I would like to ask a serious question of my fellow Hot Heads with regard the use of the acronym, PUMA. Do you think it’s wise to openly invite PUMAs, by name, into the Republican Party at the local level, or is this better left as an internet meme?
RushBaby on August 31, 2008 at 1:15 PM
I disagree that she should attack liberal feminists. I suggest that she should represent a new definition of conservative feminism, and let that representation contrast with that of the left.
Just like the complaint on other threads about her gun totin’ animal killing image being offensive to the animal rights leftists. Yes, I say, represent those of us who remember the old ways when rural folks butchered their own meat instead of buying it wrapped in plastic at the local supermarket.
Don’t back down, but no need to ‘attack’ either. Let the left demonstrate their intolerance of anyone who is different.
rockhauler on August 31, 2008 at 1:16 PM
funky chicken on August 31, 2008 at 1:16 PM
She is a reformer and energy expert who happens to be a woman. If the planets align, she can set the stage for the GOP landscape for the next couple of decades. That should be enough. The gender thing may wear thin and isn’t necessary.
a capella on August 31, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Hmmm… subtle line of attack…
Point out her husband is a Steelworker and business owner, not a Politician… that she’s Proud of the fact that he is his own man, and is not tied in any way to politics…
It subtly points out that she did not get there riding on his coat tails, like Hill did…
Don’t state it, let others do that for you…
Romeo13 on August 31, 2008 at 1:18 PM
She should talk issues, not be an attack dog. She will take her lead from the wise old man who picked her as his running mate.
You don’t persuade people by insulting them.
Basilsbest on August 31, 2008 at 1:18 PM
The GOP should run the “hockey Mom” angle. She isnt a well connected Female who got where she is from from family connections or years of service to the party. She got there by her own hard work.
If I was the McCain Campaign I would KEEP playing up her “People dont want to see her in the VP office they want to keep the same good old boy network”
That is the tact that will work not “I want to thank hillary hillary hillary…”
William Amos on August 31, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Outstanding! Way to go. I viewed the whole piece.
Thanks, now I have something to show my two little boys later.
America’s Future indeed!
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on August 31, 2008 at 1:19 PM
This is not an admonishment, but consider the concept that, perhaps, Sarah Palin knows a bit more about winning elections as a woman in a man’s world than any of us do. You won’t find a more masculine good-old-boy network than the one in Alaska.
I suspect that she will instinctively make superior tactical choices than any of us could, based purely on (get this) experience.
Immolate on August 31, 2008 at 1:19 PM
McCain is running the most masterful election campaign I have ever seen.
Basilsbest on August 31, 2008 at 1:19 PM
ugh screwed up the quote thingy only the first paragraph should be in quotes
RushBaby, I say offer them a cordial invitation. They may just want to support McCain this election and not want to join the party…great…ask them to help with only presidential ticket activities. Being around folks working on the McCain/Palin campaign may slowly wake them up to the fact that republicans aren’t all nutters and haters.
funky chicken on August 31, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Eh, I could be wrong (wouldn’t be the first time!) but I think continuing Hillary references are just the way to keep Obama off balance. Palin won’t get a lot of hardcore Hillary leftists, but she does highlight the lack of judgment Obama displayed in passing over Hillary for Biden.
What was he thinking?
At some point, she will move into her own and the Hillary! parallels will be unnecessary and counterproductive. I think that time will be a little further down the road than while Obama is still reeling from the surprise punch this was.
I think the transition will occur naturally, over the next 3 days- 1 month. And, when her record is in the public, conservatives will know she is definitely no Hillary part II.
cs89 on August 31, 2008 at 1:20 PM
BTW I am browsing news stories where they are asking democratic women about Palin. They are mostly hostile still but cracks are forming. Palin isnt comming accross as some wildeyed neocon but someone they themselves can admire.
Whatever else Palin is starting to show them she deserves to be where she is. Watching Obama keep slaming that is really the dumbest thing they can do.
William Amos on August 31, 2008 at 1:20 PM
A couple of things from that Ambinder article that Allah links to:
1. He mentions McCain being inside the Obama campaign’s “OODA loop”. Heh. Wonder where he got that?
2. This would’ve been my money quote from that article:
True, as far as it goes, but it speaks VOLUMES though about Obama, doesn’t it?
Purple Fury on August 31, 2008 at 1:21 PM
+1
it’s funny to see the punditocracy fall back on identity politics and elitism re:Palin.
funky chicken on August 31, 2008 at 1:22 PM
Too late for that question when the nominal head of the Republican party is openly courting their participation.
With them, or without them, we will have to stand up for our viewpoints, and policy desires or be dismissed.
It was why I was asking Mr. Morrissey about how one becomes a delegate to the national convention. Conservatives have to get involved with local candidates at the local level. Gov. Palin makes that clear.
The hardest point to get across to people is that we can make a difference, and it is the most serious mistake I’ve made (repeatedly) in my life, not believing that I could make a difference.
rockhauler on August 31, 2008 at 1:23 PM
Loved the video, Downtown. You know what is so cool about Sarah Palin is that the things she has done — from visiting the troops to lovingly raising her family, from using common sense to eliminate the Bridge to Nowhere to doing her part to fight corruption — were taken on not as photo ops, but because they were something she believed in. Can any Democrat you can name offer that? It’s what so strongly appeals to us, I think — she really is one of us, a mom, wife, and American first, rather than a typical arrogant, self-centered, turning-whichever-way-the-political-winds-blow candidate.
eucher on August 31, 2008 at 1:23 PM
The American public wants to know whether Sarah Palin has a grasp of the issues, not whether she can be a good attack dog.
First Frum. Now Goldberg. NRO is really struggling with this nomination. They don’t get it.
Basilsbest on August 31, 2008 at 1:23 PM
She needs to keep doing what she’s doing because it works.
And not take advice from people trying to redefine her.
Sarah, be Sarah.
Merovign on August 31, 2008 at 1:23 PM
I am a “feminist” I believe in equal pay for equal work and equal firings for equal failings. I want women to succeed I want everyone to succeed if they play an honest game. The wife is not a roe v wade zealot but she is a proud female soldier.
If we play our cards correctly we can marginalize NOW.
sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 1:23 PM
It’s daft to expect Palin will get the Hilary vote. Feminists of that stripe and pro-life sentiment can’t coexist. That Palin doesn’t only believe in pro-live, but also actually embodies it, is anathema to the left. (BTW, I think that’s part of the motivation for the left’s slander about Palin’s daughter. A woman who doesn’t just say she’s anti-abortion but actually carries a “damaged” child to term? Unthinkable!)
I’m excited about Palin so far. I wasn’t at all gung-ho about McCain, but that’s changed. Among other terrific qualities, she doesn’t wear those bloody ugly pant-suits.
dulce on August 31, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Indeed. Or, to take a more direct page from the Barry campaign, ” If you vote against her, you like corruption”.
a capella on August 31, 2008 at 1:26 PM
The radical feminists are about as persuadable as Osama Bin Laden.
There is an old Irish saying;
“Your friends don’t need your reasons and your enemies won’t accept them.”
Tony Soprano on August 31, 2008 at 1:27 PM
D0VVNTOVVN, I too viewed your outstanding video on Mrs. Palin, and was so impressed by her genuineness and her wholesomeness.
That link is worth repeating here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quvBbcFDPI0
The Governor was the person whom I’d hoped beyond hope that McCain would choose; and I agree, she will not convert to votes the Hillaryites entirely. But even the gentliest reminder that Obama snubbed Hillary during the next 60 days will surely stick in many ladies’ memories.
And yeah, I’m getting out my checkbook for McCain/Palin ’08, cheerfully.
localmalcontent on August 31, 2008 at 1:27 PM
DOWNTOWN
Great YouTube view! We really enjoyed it this morning. And welcome to HotAir, by the way. Very glad to have your company.
maverick muse on August 31, 2008 at 1:28 PM
She’s exactly what this country needs. SPREAD IT!
D0WNT0WN on August 31, 2008 at 1:30 PM
I’m trying to look on the bright side, and I’m encouraged to know that smart people like Douthat and Allah are on board (maybe you guys could have a talk with Krauthammer). Still, I’m not sure that engendering male protectiveness is a positive development.
Know what I mean?
Infidoll on August 31, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Define ‘equal work’
If you want to be paid what a plumber makes, you have to get down in the mud and lay pipe. If you want to be paid what an iron worker makes, you have to hang iron on the 40th floor. If you want to be paid what a brain surgeon makes you have to do the surgery.
Don’t tell me that sitting in an air conditioned office doing paralegal work is equivalent. I’m not buying that argument.
rockhauler on August 31, 2008 at 1:31 PM
She’s all the best things about America.
D0WNT0WN on August 31, 2008 at 1:32 PM
No.
a capella on August 31, 2008 at 1:33 PM
It’s not protectiveness, it’s identification with her as an ordinary person. I’m not worried about the poor girl having her feelings hurt, I’m imagining myself in her situation and considering how awful I’d feel if the pressure got to me. Nothing gender-related about it.
Allahpundit on August 31, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Yes! And Chicago Machine Barry is the worst.
Tony Soprano on August 31, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Every conservative/libertarian/freedom loving patriot/constitutionalist/anti-communist/moderate to conservative democrat and even true honest liberals should do the same. She IS America’s future.
D0WNT0WN on August 31, 2008 at 1:34 PM
I wouldn’t take advice from Jonah Goldberg on how to win feminist votes.
She should not be used as an attack dog.
She also should not be used as a victim.
But they should keep her out there as much as possible and let the nutroots and media go after her to expose the hypocrisy of the experience argument and to cross the line (see Alan Colmes) and alienate average Americans from the Dem base.
She’s a very authentic and likeable person, but should not be used as some attack dog.
CanadianGuy on August 31, 2008 at 1:35 PM
All right! I like the polar bear comparison. After the VP debate, they can look at the polar bear spoor and find hair plugs in it.
Buford Gooch on August 31, 2008 at 1:35 PM
I’m glad America has Sarah Palin and I’m glad John McCain now has her company.
D0WNT0WN on August 31, 2008 at 1:36 PM
Thanks. That’s the advice I was hoping for.
RushBaby on August 31, 2008 at 1:36 PM
Completely disagree, if McCain loses in November then you know who this benefits? Mitt Romney! Conservatives will say we had our guy but rallied to him too late. Mitt will then be the standard bearer for 2012. I for one hope that it is Palin 2012 but I see that only if McCain wins in November.
lan astaslem on August 31, 2008 at 1:37 PM
TBOD to Palin: Just be yourself. Don’t listen to the talking heads, the chattering keyboards, nor the consultants. Do what you’ve always done. It got you this far.
TheBigOldDog on August 31, 2008 at 1:37 PM
Palin needs to be Palin. I have a feeling running up my leg that her verbal skills mixed with the disarming good looks all add up to a slice and dice verbal capability that even ole Hil wouldn’t or couldn’t pull off.
Benjamin9 on August 31, 2008 at 1:37 PM
I don’t understand the obsession with the women who voted for Hillary. They didn’t make up all 18 million of her voters. Indeed, Palin enables McCain to reach right and left. Follow me.
Clearly, she has those right of McCain fired up–in all caps.
On some level, she also reaches those middle-of-the-road undecideds for whom abortion is not a litmus-test issue. Yes, she’s way to the right on it, but what’s the legal effect of her position? At best, she (that is, McCain) can appoint Supreme Court justices who may (or may not) later overturn Roe some day. In the meantime, neither she nor McCain can do a d*** thing legislatively to abolish abortion. Check the constitution, it requires a bill passed by the House and the Senate and signed by the president. The left’s abolition-of-abortion hysteria is comical.
In contrast, Obama unquestionably has the most extreme (and ghoulish) position on abortion of any serious candidate (for any office) that I’m aware of. And he’d have a Democratic House and Senate. Who should be afraid of whom?
And what does overturning Roe do? Absent federal legislation outlawing the practice, it pitches the practice back to the states where each state’s residents can decide.
Sorry for the digression.
The third, seemingly ignored, group comprises the Hillary voters who are men. These guys couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Obama in the first instance. I think they look at Palin and her family and McCain and Palin and say, “I’m with them.” I don’t know their numbers, but Obama doesn’t seem to reach them and Biden doesn’t help. I think they look at Obama and Biden and don’t want a thing to do with them, while they look at Palin and her family and would welcome a chance to share a meal with them.
BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 1:38 PM
I would still like to disagree with Goldberg.
But, having learned this morning that a friend, a liberal, lesbian woman whom I admire (on a personal level, not for her politics) has bought right into the lefty memes about Palin, I guess attack is necessary.
Sad, indeed, when positive attributes cannot “sell” a candidate.
MrScribbler on August 31, 2008 at 1:40 PM
whoa slow down cowboy…
I said “equal work” and I meant equal work.
A sabot round doesn’t make itself lighter based on the gender of who the loader is…..if you can’t do the MOSq we don’t need to move the goalposts for “fairness”.
There are women that meet the criterion for masny macho jobs and do well, then there are women who are NOW gangers who want the job defined down 40% based on their chromome layout. I don’t play those reindeer games. If a job requirres a person to move 80 pounds of freight repeatedly for 8 hour shifts THAT is the minimum in my eyes. The best belly loader I ever saw was a fireplug of a woman 5’2″ inches tall that could pull two dollies with a bare aiding push.
Properly played without too much fawning to HARD feminists I think Sarah is a classical feminist not a 70s bra burner and frankly if destroying the infanticide backing NOW gang’s iron grip on the media’s perception of feminist requires me being a mild one I’m there.
sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Reagan came on the scene in 1964 with a speech to the GOP convention. It took 16 years to carry his message to a Presidential win.
Palin is an exciting choice but a long way from being a proven, battle tested heavyweight.
Bradky on August 31, 2008 at 1:41 PM
AP:
Well, the over 400 posts I saw yesterday on one of the Hillary forums –99% of which were jumping with joy at the selection of Palin– would beg to disagree with you. Many of them said they would vote McCain-Palin in spite of their political differences with her, both to thank McCain and to spite Obama and the DNC.
Don’t underestimate PUMA anger.
irishspy on August 31, 2008 at 1:41 PM
Down the middle media…..
*snort*
BigWyo on August 31, 2008 at 1:42 PM
Millions of women and men who voted for Hillary are not pro-abortion zealots or radical feminists.
Palin can lay into the radicals because they won’t vote for her anyway. In the process, she can help pick up the Hillary voters who were just sick of W and didn’t trust B.O..
forest on August 31, 2008 at 1:42 PM
From today’s LA Times stories. The people quoted are her political opponents and further evidence not to turn her into some attack dog like Jonah (I know how femnists think) Goldberg recommends.
CanadianGuy on August 31, 2008 at 1:42 PM
The entire “NOW” women’s movement has always been a misnomer, not to mention a source of disillusionment instead of help for women. The only way to get ahead with them was to divorce and abandon families and cat fight. Meanwhile, they actively campaign against women who choose to remain faithful to husbands and children while pursuing careers or even live as traditional full time homemakers. For decades, feminists have successfully campaigned for the subservience of traditional values under their heel, and need a good response to their sucker punches. The feminist elitist and selfish disdain has always been a big turn-off downer for women and men alike. Let “now” be for us instead of just them.
That we actually have the opportunity this election to support a conservative, efficient Republican (who by chance is a successful wife and mother) on McCain’s ticket is FANTASTIC!
Jonah Goldberg hit a very accurate point. When Palin responds to feminist attack, I’m backing her all the way.
maverick muse on August 31, 2008 at 1:43 PM
I agree with “lose the Hillary references”. Palin is an authentic voice of her own, and she does not need the crutch of references to such manipulative and phoney candidates as Hillary.
A key point is that Obama gained a lot of popularity outside the black constituency by appearing to be someone who had gone past race and had something to say beyond bashing whitey. The fact that he really hadn’t and doesn’t should not be allowed to obscure the fact that the electorate at large is tired of identity politics and the anger it seems to have at its heart. The same applies to the gender dimension. Her femininity is a natural part of her attractiveness, but an accomplished woman like Palin needs to run on a core message of dedication to country, the courage to reform, and authenticity first, not gender.
Finally, she would also be well-advised to lose the “hocky-mom” schtick. She may have been a hockey-mom at some time years ago, but today she is running for high office as an successful chief executive of a US state, and a political reformer of some substance. We don’t need any more Patty Murrays. One of those dipsy-doodling around Washington is enough, thanks.
drunyan8315 on August 31, 2008 at 1:44 PM
Remember when a couple of leftists pretended to be Republicans and heckled Mrs. Clinton with “iron my shirts! iron my shirts!”?
Outrage! said the democrats.
Yet mainstream democrats, dead serious and with a far wider audience, are smearing Governor Palin with such obscenities as she should have aborted the kid, and she’s supposed to stay at home to take care of her crippled kid.
We knew democrats are hateful, hypocritical bastards, but it’s almost as if they’re exploring new facets of hate and hypocrisy just for the hell of it.
jeff_from_mpls on August 31, 2008 at 1:44 PM
FWIW:
Here’s another post at NRO from Jonah Goldberg. It’s pretty interesting:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWQ2YzMyNGViMmIyY2I0MTliYjRjYmU4MmMxOWZjODA=
BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 1:46 PM
LOL
Good retort…
I confess to being over exuberant at times.
rockhauler on August 31, 2008 at 1:47 PM
You know what would be truly refreshing and a winner? Cut the “identity” rhetoric completely, stick to the issues and lead by example.
Palin has done that in her career, and as someone mentioned, she knows how to win elections.
As a woman, I have to admit that I’m pleased with McCain’s choice. However, if Palin’s positions did not square with mine, I wouldn’t be at all enthused. That’s why I would never support Hillary.
I’m really fed up with “feminists”, whatever that means. The same is true for all these groups who think they’re so victimized and special that the world needs to stop turning and pay attention to them.
Sarah Palin is a great role model for anyone who has goals and a desire to do something with their life. Her appeal is universal, and that’s what I hope is the focus.
Pandering to various groups is such a bore. Hillary’s girls can do whatever they want. We have the opportunity to mobilize the base, bring in independents as well as a good portion of the undecided male vote – what’s not to like about Palin?
Cody1991 on August 31, 2008 at 1:50 PM
I agree that there was and will be only one Ronald Wilson Reagan. But you’ll notice that I compared this to what I imagine it must have been like when he first hit the national stage. I did not declare her a successful two-term president who won the Cold War. She is someone who has personal integrity, a great life story, is exciting to groups that Republicans generally fail to excite, has great communication skills, came from a middle class background, and can ARTICULATE and EFFECTIVELY CONVEY conservatism. That was my point.
D0WNT0WN on August 31, 2008 at 1:50 PM
Well done, DT. Well done.
Tennman on August 31, 2008 at 1:51 PM
Those sorts of comments are doing them real damage but they can’t seem to control themselves. People like KP and Bob Shrum have tried to warn them but they aren’t listening. The fading light of Obama is driving them mad and they are expressing their true feelings. Problem is, lots of fellow traditional Dems are listening and don’t like what the are hearing.
TheBigOldDog on August 31, 2008 at 1:51 PM
heh no problem….
we have been stuck all of us in a pretty bad cycle of conservative on conservative friendly fire because of the passions of the nomination process…
time to focus our fire and ire on the Infanticide slinging “Messiah” and hopefully his would be democratic enablers in the Legislature.
Barry’s been barely winning a race against a splintered GOP time to show him how we red staters do it with unity!
sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 1:51 PM
Anger.
That is how I see “feminists.”
I’m talking about that political identifable left-wing feminism from the 60′s grown now into political adulthood.
Their mantra has become Roe v Wade. Career first. Having a family, having kids, is punishment. Job first. Wear pantsuits to look more manly. And along the way they have demanded, expected, that real “feminists” have to, simply must, embrace Roe v Wade as the first step toward initiation. Tradition mom’s and spouses? Are seen as pandering to the Male tyrants of the Right. And the anger grows.
All that anger.
Then, along comes Sarah Palin…a mom, a wife, a citizen civil servant who saw a need and addressed it, first in the PTA, then city council, then as a mayor, then as a governor…and where was all that “feminist” anger?
Palin is not an angry person. She doesn’t fit the “feminist” mold. She shatters it. Palin has no use for it. She does. She doesn’t complain. Doesn’t blame the Male Establishment. She simply does.
In this, Palin is so much more on track, in line, out front, as an example of millions of women across America, an example for millions of women across America, moreso than all the professional “feminists” we have had to endure for the past 40 years.
And in doing so, she has touched a lot of women, successful women, women who work…in the office or factory, in uniform, or at home raising strong families, or any combination of these.
Real feminism is putting the old tired anger politics of “feminism” to rest once and for all. Real feminism is doing. Not talking about it. But doing. There in lies true equality. And Sarah Palin is the embodiment of true equality.
This is why the left in the past 48 hours has become so shrill, so angry, so full of bile and contempt for Palin.
The professional “feminists,” be they in politics or teaching in our universities, or dressing up in Code-Pink uniforms, are threatened by this small town unknown from Alaska. Palin upsets all the “feminist” pre-conceived notions of what a woman can and cannot do, should or should not do. It scares them. It truly does.
She didn’t get to the top office in Alaska by being married to a professional politician. She got there on her own, with a simple message, and authenticity, and honesty and integrity. And her husband? Pretty typical blue-collar sort of guy, no fancy multiple degreed academic or expert, nor politician. Stepped away from a $100k a year job with BP when his wife, as governor, entered into negotiations with BP regarding a new pipeline…quit a lucrative job so as not to give Palin’s opponents ammunition to try to stop her. Talk about personal sacrifice to be a true partner in a marriage.
Authenticity. Honesty. Integrity. But…no anger.
This is what makes Sarah Palin the ultimate real feminist as opposed to the four decades of poseur, pretenders, affected, insincere professional “feminists.”
coldwarrior on August 31, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Other than going to Lincoln-Reagan dinners and stuff like that, I have never been involved in local politics before this year. When it looked like Mav had no coattails, that was my wakeup call. I got involved locally right away. Here’s how my experience went:
I went straight to the most senior Republican activist in my area and offered to help. Most important thing to them this year was deflecting the onslaught from the Luap Nor crowd, whose main goal was to infiltrate delegates to the State Convention. People as young as 18 – with their mothers screeching at our County Convention. True story.
Luckily, our county officials were forewarned, and mustered enough people to outvote them. Other counties were not so fortunate. And this is why it is absolutely essential to get involved at the local level. That grass-roots movement is real and alarming. Luckily, we had Paul Revere to counter Paul, Ron.
Anyway, I am a noob at this, with untrained instincts and vast ignorance about Party workings. However, I have a mentor and have been working 14 hour days (job + GOP volunteer work + read HA) and it is a super feeling. It has rewards, too. I won’t name drop, but I’ve been getting some verrry interesting phone calls and invitations as well.
RushBaby on August 31, 2008 at 1:52 PM
That’s a really good point. I think some republicans would say they agree with you, but their actions still say stick-it-to-the-feminists. I’m probably one of those republicans.
I really appreciate your comment. Made me think.
jeff_from_mpls on August 31, 2008 at 1:53 PM
I’ll post that in my front garden!
maverick muse on August 31, 2008 at 1:54 PM
I think it goes even deeper than that if today’s 18 year old woman voter was raised on Hillary…Hillary’s granddaughters are going to wonder why they need NOW since they have been raised on a macho “mean girls” image that the academy now denies boys….
I think a lot of future female voters while possibly not swinging right are not going to look at Roe V Wade as a holy sacrament either.
sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Fantasy McCain-Palin ad: the two candidates standing shoulder to shoulder out front, backed by their respective spouses slightly behind and out to their sides.
Caption: All four of these people fly airplanes. As pilot in command.
Optional sub-caption: Joe Biden rides the choo-choo every day, and Obama is learning to ride a bike pretty good.
Okay, that last part is a bit over the top….
drunyan8315 on August 31, 2008 at 1:57 PM
Leave them to their own protest. These are not security soccer moms who are concerned about the safety of their country and family under Obama. They’re, for the most part, devout leftists who would’ve fully-supported a lefty Clinton-Obama ticket. They’re just pissed their candidate didn’t win and are going to make the DNC pay for it.
amerpundit on August 31, 2008 at 1:57 PM
I think this deserves a post of its own. Via Jonah Goldberg at NRO, from Uncle Jimbo at Blackfive.net. I bet McCain and Palin are just waiting for Obama/Biden to try to say she has no foreign policy /military experience, and then they can unleash this on the public. Heh.
She really was a brilliant choice.
Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 1:57 PM
I have always hesitated using the word “feminist” to describe my beliefs because I didn’t want to be dismissed as “one of those women”. It’s the same predicament I face when using the word “hope”. I resented having that word monopolized by the Obama fan club–I found myself using air quotes each time I said it. Now there’s a real example of the kind of feminism I admire…Sarah Palin. My first-time-voting daughter is so psyched that the Republicans are making history too. She is swamped by Obama fans at her school, Temple University, so much so that she cannot take my car down there because of the McCain sticker. She is amazed at the immaturity of Obama’s supporters. You would think they would reign in that kind of behavior, if their campaign is so disciplined!
Moxie on August 31, 2008 at 1:58 PM
She has the ability to articulate conservatism and to express genuine emotion. Plus she walks the walk. She LIVES conservatism. I feel honor bound to support someone like her. She doesn’t need to ask for my vote. She’s earned it.
D0WNT0WN on August 31, 2008 at 1:58 PM
and if courted will still vote downticket (d)….better to let then stew and come if THEY want.
sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 1:59 PM
May I embed that in a webpage I’m working on?
RushBaby on August 31, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Sarah Palin leads America by example that I not only approve of, but endorse with full vigor. McCain chose well his Republican counterpart for America’s 21st Century. Palin has sound judgment that accompanies her talents and the direction that her experience accompanies under McCain’s presidency. McCain continues to impress America as the maestro conducting our national symphony.
maverick muse on August 31, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Please do. SPREAD IT! I want to get people excited about Sarah Palin.
D0WNT0WN on August 31, 2008 at 2:06 PM
Hmmm, Sarah Palin supports Cap-and-Trade to fight global warming?
I certainly hope they don’t come here to Michigan and start talking about global warming again, like he did last time he was here. ugh
Michael in MI on August 31, 2008 at 2:06 PM
Thanks for the link. Good stuff.
a capella on August 31, 2008 at 2:07 PM
Y’know, I’ve been wondering where I could find one of those. My old vagina pick has seen better days.
mikeyboss on August 31, 2008 at 2:08 PM
I think a lot of future female voters while possibly not swinging right are not going to look at Roe V Wade as a holy sacrament either.
sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Good point. It reminds me of other scenarios. Nick Cohen wrote a book not long ago entitled, “What’s Left?” which essentially argued that many of the platforms the leftists still rail about are non-issues at this point in time. Naturally, he was eviscerated by his fellow liberals.
We have instituted enough laws to give adequate recourse for those who have a legitimate complaint. What the Dems have done is to proceed as though no progress has been made and that various groups labor under the cruel whip of whatever form of oppression they like to promote for political purposes. It looks to me as though they have over-played their hand and that the message has become tiresome, depressing and stale.
Cody1991 on August 31, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Palin has said that she doesn’t really factor in her gender when she’s out there working. She is successful because she’s smart and personable. She has a charisma that a woman with a chip on her shoulder can’t possibly have.
Connie on August 31, 2008 at 2:09 PM
I wasn’t knocking you, Allah, and I’ll take you at your word regarding the source of your concern. She IS more of an ordinary person than the average politician and, as we all know, she’s going to be crucified. It won’t be pretty.
Still, and perhaps I’m just incapable of thinking out of the box, I tend to think voters NEED for the first female POTUS to be a Thatcher-like figure. Cold, brilliant, and largely gender-neutral. Accordingly, the very same things that make Palin likeable, and help women (and ordinary people) to identify with her, don’t help her in the long run.
That’s all I’m trying to say.
Infidoll on August 31, 2008 at 2:10 PM
+2
RushBaby on August 31, 2008 at 2:13 PM
quite it’d be the equivalent of us attempting to excoricate Barry on the Cold War.
While true that his party was totally wrong on it, the fact is that when we were winning it Barry was well being Barry I think still in his “I’m a COMMUNITY ORGANIZAER DAMNIT!” stage…..may not have even converted to Christianity when the wall fell.
Hammering Kerry on it, absolutely he made errors in judgement during the Cold War…Hillary not so much but even then her and her husband botched cementing the Russians as long term strategic allies by courting China instead.
You use a hammer to drive nails not screws and Barry is a screw……Roe v Wade is not in danger tomorrow and the NOW gang are busy trying to nail Sarah with a screwdriver…just not effective.
sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 2:21 PM
she will be God willing a minimum of 48 years old when she is POtUS. She looks as though she will always be beautiful but as she ages she will “weather”….
I do know she’ll always have a twinkle in her eyes and a spring in her step just from her appearences this week.
Sarah is a true Iron Lady in a velvet glove.
sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 2:23 PM
+1
funky chicken on August 31, 2008 at 2:23 PM
Allah: what is wrong if you are being paternalistic?
Seems like a very human sentiment to me.
cab8505 on August 31, 2008 at 2:38 PM
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