CNN poll: 50% say Palin isn’t qualified to be president

posted at 9:24 pm on August 31, 2008 by Allahpundit

That’ll change, of course, as she does better or worse on the trail, but it ain’t the point you want to start from, needless to say. I don’t know what to make of the fact that Gallup’s poll yesterday answered this same question with a slim plurality saying she is qualified. Has opinion already shifted that much in 24 hours?

The good news: Maverick trails Obama only 49/48post-convention. Not only is that the highest percentage I can recall him pulling offhand, but it jibes with Gallup’s data showing Barry O already starting to lose some of his bounce (albeit still holding to a six-point lead). In other words, bizarrely, the doubts about her qualifications don’t seem to be hurting the appeal of the pick … yet. In fact, not only is she +17 in favorable/unfavorable with 41 percent undecided, but 57 percent say the pick reflects favorably on McCain’s judgment in making important presidential decisions. How on earth does that square with the majority who think she’s unqualified? Is she simply that personally appealing that they’re willing to roll the dice on someone they don’t necessarily trust as VP?

Maybe, yeah.

Feeling good now? Fired up and ready to go? Then let this pessimist stalwart crap all over that for you. Click the image below and skip ahead to 1:05:30 for some worrisomely bad vibes during the Palin segment of Frank Luntz’s Minnesota focus group this afternoon. Exit question: Should a blogger with nerves of tin really be covering this beat until November? Time to ask the boss to relegate me to gossip items and viral videos, yes?

Update: So much for identity politics: “Women now appear slightly more likely to vote for Obama than they did a week ago, 53 percent now, compared to 50 percent. But McCain picked up a couple of points among men. More important, McCain solidified his party’s base with the Palin selection, dropping Obama’s share of the Republican vote six points to just 5 percent now.”

Update: A reader e-mails to clarify: The 50 percent who say she’s unqualified is obviously a subset of the 59 percent overall who know enough about her to form an opinion. 41 percent don’t know enough about her yet to form any opinions.


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Haha, Blake.
5′5″ McCain standing up to the Hurricane is gonna look like the Expedia yard gnome.

alphie on August 31, 2008 at 10:02 PM

Haha, alphie, are you really that dense to think that is what he is going to do there? I know you leftards are experts in shaking your angry little fists and yelling, Go away! at problems. It was certainly your approach to 9/11 and the numerous terrorist attacks during the BJ years.

Blake on August 31, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Not too late for McCain to replace Harriet Palin with a real VP candidate. I’m still betting on Freddie Dalton. – alphie on August 31, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Greetings and salutations, ma petite doorstop. Frankly, I’m surprised you are willing to gamble at all, in light of the bet that your parents so obviously lost with God. Here’s your piece of string, dear. Now go and play.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 10:06 PM

I can’t get the Luntz clip to play. I tried everything Quicktime, VLC, DivX, WMV,… A little help please?

BJ on August 31, 2008 at 10:07 PM

I didn’t catch MTP, but the panel on This Week with George Stephanopolous was very fair towards her. George Will loved her, Matthew Dowd did a great job of emphasizing what her political upside was among suburban independents, and Cokie Roberts even said a lot of nice things about her as well. Only Sam Donaldson was clearly against her, but the next time he’s right about something will be his first.

Dudley Smith on August 31, 2008 at 9:43 PM

That was actually a remarkable show. George Will has a kid with Down’s, and he was sympathetic. I thought Matthew Dowd was very fair. And boy, oh boy was Cokie’s sexism detector turned up to max, or what?

Donaldson was an ass, as usual.

Purple Fury on August 31, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Do you really believe CNN? This MSM rigged poll is no doubt as fraud riddled as their news reports on the campaign.

Common sense tells me that with Obama’s lousy associations, his own very serious lack of experience — and mind you, Obama thinks he would like to be pres. The PUMA and Hillary rejected backers in favor of McCain. The NRA and vast number of Evanglicals and Catholics (Christians — a majority in the U.S.) are also McCain supporters.

And Independents seem to be favoring McCain.

All this and the race is tied? Not likely. It’s probably 65% McCain to 23% Obama.

AdrianS on August 31, 2008 at 10:08 PM

alphie on August 31, 2008 at 10:02 PM

Hey, I bet they are going to come and take porta-potty away to send down to Louisiana to help in the recovery effort. What are you going to do with your days now that you won’t have it to stare at anymore?

TheBigOldDog on August 31, 2008 at 10:08 PM

No, but McCain has the lowest odds of living through his first term of any presidential candidate… alphie on August 31, 2008 at 9:46 PM

And you have the lowest odds of ever uttering anything coherent, my precious little potted plant.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 10:09 PM

I’ll try to find the last non-military Senator elected president. It is truly astonishing how little experience Obama has.

…Yep, just looked it up. The last president who was basically nothing was Herbert Hoover. He was a Secretary of Commerce and his “leadership” led to the Great Depression.

jimmy the notable on August 31, 2008 at 10:04 PM

So? For crying out loud, isn’t “change” exactly what Obama’s been promising us?

logis on August 31, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Purple Fury on August 31, 2008 at 9:29 PM mentioned this close to the beginning of the thread:

What To Do About the Convention [Byron York]

Jonah — After flying in today, I caught the last half of Frank Luntz’s focus group. When our group of reporters went in to talk to the people after Luntz had finished, we asked what they thought the RNC should do about the convention. Everybody in the group — about 25 undecided Minnesota voters, many of them appearing to lean toward Obama — said the convention should continue. “Life goes on,” said one woman, as others nodded in agreement. The group also unanimously agreed that it was appropriate for President Bush to skip the convention, given his other duties. But they saw no reason to call off the convention.

INC on August 31, 2008 at 10:09 PM

AP, your skepticism is informative. Since I use HA as my main news/commentary portal, I especially appreciate your more skeptical view. It gives balance. But I must say I am extremely bullish on how Palin’s going to play in mainstream America. My gut says she’s a straight-up winner. While I’m looking for early signs, I don’t think we’ll have much to go on, even in polls, for another few days. But I am very, very bullish!

petefrt on August 31, 2008 at 10:10 PM

What has Obama ever run except his mouth?

profitsbeard on August 31, 2008 at 10:11 PM

If you really believe that, you wouldn’t be here talking out of your a$$. You fool no one. – Blake on August 31, 2008 at 9:58 PM

On the contrary, Blake: our resident dopey fruitbat fools herself…every day.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 10:12 PM

What has Obama ever run except his mouth?

profitsbeard on August 31, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Numbers?

coldwarrior on August 31, 2008 at 10:12 PM

A. That Frank Luntz panel was so sexist. Because she’s a mother… Really?? Unfortunately, there is still a double standard for women; you’ve got to be twice as impressive as the men. ;(

B. Sarah Palin (as well as Bobby Jindal) is the Republican’s version of Hope! and Change!, so experience doesn’t matter.

Illinidiva on August 31, 2008 at 10:14 PM

All these people talking trash about Palin are going to regret it. This woman is going to be the Maggie Thatcher of America. She’s got 5 kids and is a Governor at the age of 44. I don’t know what is more impressive than that.

What does Obama have to show for his life? An uncontested Senate seat and a couple of kids raised by his wife and private school.

I’d rather Palin be on the top of the ticket. I guarantee you she will beat the crap out of Clinton in a few years when Clinton runs again. This country needs Palin in a bad way.

ThackerAgency on August 31, 2008 at 10:14 PM

about 25 undecided Minnesota voters, many of them appearing to lean toward Obama
INC on August 31, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Like I said, activists who lie to get into the group.

Connie on August 31, 2008 at 10:16 PM

What, exactly, do you think john F. McCain is actually gonna do down there, Blake?

You know he doesn’t want to get his $500 shoes wet…

alphie on August 31, 2008 at 10:16 PM

It would be interesting to go back and see how often the question about qualified or experienced enough was asked about Edwards in 2004. I don’t remember that being a big issue. And if I’m right, and it wasn’t, then this may actually be about something else. Lack of familiarity seems the most obvious explanation. Edwards had run for President in 2004 so his name and face were out there. Maybe it’s a gender thing, but most likely she’s just not well known, except by those who matter in the GOP, the ones who are now pouring money and energy into the McCain campaign. McCain is slowly rebuilding the coalition that won the election for Bush in 2004.

Bennett on August 31, 2008 at 10:16 PM

Haha, Blake.
5′5″ McCain standing up to the Hurricane is gonna look like the Expedia yard gnome.

alphie on August 31, 2008 at 10:02 PM

McCain has a lower center of gravity and more weight close to the ground. Obama’s height combined with his thinness would have him sailing over Shreveport and Texarkana within hours of Gustav’s arrival. We don’t need a president who blows whichever way the wind goes…

jon1979 on August 31, 2008 at 10:16 PM

What would a poll on whether or not Obambi is ready to be president say? Probably not much better.

eski502 on August 31, 2008 at 10:17 PM

eski502 on August 31, 2008 at 10:17 PM –

As recently as mid-August, before the Convention, CBS, USAToday and a few other polls had Obama in the 30% range. And this after he had been running a campaign for over a year.

coldwarrior on August 31, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Like I said, activists who lie to get into the group.

Connie on August 31, 2008 at 10:16 PM

Looks that way.

INC on August 31, 2008 at 10:22 PM

She is more qualified than Obama is by a long shot. I am willing to bet that many people are saying she isn’t qualified are Obama supporters.

mindhacker on August 31, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Dean Barnett has a good article in the Weekly Standard, “Diminishing Palin”. He discusses how the left is likely to portray her.

“But there is good news for Sarah Palin as the latter-day Howell Raineses and Clark Cliffords line up to smear her: She controls how the American people will come to view her much more than they do. There’s a reason her excellent speech on Friday set off such a firestorm of rage and irrational hissy-fits on the left. Speaking directly to the American people, Palin cut an attractive and intelligent figure. Regardless of the left’s anger, the American people will believe their own eyes rather than a frustrated blogger’s or haughty anchorman’s blustery “analysis.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/506wrzxk.asp

What does anyone expect from CNN? Most of the MSM are campaigning for BO, and they make no attempt to hide their agenda.

I hope Palin keeps talking to the American people. Forget about the Hillary harridans. They can stew in their anger forever. That’s what they’re good at doing. Forget all the special “victim” groups – just talk to Americans.

Cody1991 on August 31, 2008 at 10:24 PM

I would be very, very suspicious about Palin after watching Press The Meet this morning. It was ugly. I can’t imagine what the people are thinking who only get their news from MSNBC.
carbon_footprint on August 31, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Negligible. In terms of viewership, MSNBC is practically a cable-access channel. And most of the people who DO watch it are conservatives looking for things to get pissed off about.

ABC/NBC/CBS; that’s where the rubber meets the road in terms of propaganda – and they’re holding back until they get marching orders from the NYT.

logis on August 31, 2008 at 10:25 PM

here’s the answer to the experience question. The presidency is about leadership. Over the past 12 years Sarah exhibited leadership that has led Alaska out of corruption, Leadership is not about experience, but about motivating people, gathering information and making decisions. Leadership is about courage, and she has it. If god Forbid, Sarah was forced to take the presidency, she would be surrounded by people who have experience and have been in leadership decisions. Relying on them (Lieberman, Gates, Giuliani, Ridge, Romney, Bolton etc…) and her own good judgement, strength and leadership, Sarah will be qualified to handle the presidency.

In the meantime, while Sarah learns and gains “experience” from her president, BO would be gaining his “experience” by learning from his vice president.

End of Story

joepub on August 31, 2008 at 10:27 PM

Sexism is alive and well in America. Any woman who doesn’t look like Barbara Mikulski isn’t qualified to do anything.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

rockmom on August 31, 2008 at 10:28 PM

What has Obama ever run except his mouth?

profitsbeard on August 31, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Numbers?

coldwarrior on August 31, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Nah… money laundry.

rockhauler on August 31, 2008 at 10:28 PM

ROFLMAO You actually believe that CNN will post an honest survey? If you hurry those time shares in Tehran are still available.

Jdripper on August 31, 2008 at 10:30 PM

Then let this pessimist stalwart crap all over that for you…..
Should a blogger with nerves of tin really be covering this beat until November? Time to ask the boss to relegate me to gossip items and viral videos, yes?

Allah,
I hope you don’t mind, that this 200 tons of tempered and optimistic steel freight train, takes a frost-heaved dirt road in Alaska, to avoid running over your tin cup full of pessimism.

Afterall, freight trains are under union obligations to do whatever it takes, to not hurt the little children.

Mcguyver on August 31, 2008 at 10:30 PM

The Palin pick is not going to change large numbers of votes; this shouldn’t be a surprise. But it doesn’t take a change in a lot of votes, if they are in the right states, to make the difference for McCain.

The first state-by-state/electoral vote breakdown AFTER the Republican convention is what I am interested in.

exhelodrvr on August 31, 2008 at 10:31 PM

Geez AP, grow a pair will you? I haven’t seen this much whiny squealing since my girlfriend saw a spider. You don’t have to drink any coolaid about McCain and Palin but enough with the weak kneed shivery crying. Take a sedative and find a job more to your temperament, like librarian or something. Sheesh!

jnelchef on August 31, 2008 at 10:32 PM

alphie on August 31, 2008 at 10:16 PM

Every site needs its adorable troll. Just not too many, like the trouble with tribbles. Don’t let in too many, AP, and the ones here, don’t let them mate.

silverfox on August 31, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Does anyone else find it ironic that the left has attacked Bush for the last 8 years with the “chenny” is controlling bush theme and then BHO goes and does the same exact thing. Picks a old stand by to be his rock during crisis. So will Biden be in the undisclosed location when the terrorists attaqck again under BHO “leadership” will the credit card companies be given nobid contracts to help Biden’s son’s lobbying effort. The more things “change the more they stay the same.

then out of nowhere McCain picks a real outsider, a person not steeped in the beltway games and tells the world that He will be the leader until he can no longer fullfill that requirement. and the left goes nuts because he isn’t following the formula of Bush Chenny of BHO/Biden. So if you want 4 more years of Bush vote BHO.

Irony in spades…

unseen on August 31, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Forget Palin. Read McCain’s interview with Wallace, slowly, thoughtfully. Straight talk, my ass. He’s lying through his teeth about her background and qualifications. He’s lying so blatantly that even he knows it and is probably ashamed of himself.

I predict not one of the other primary contenders, particularly Romney, if they speak at all next week, will humiliate themselves by endorsing her except in passing.

I don’t trust polls at all. I think on balance McCain just lost far many more votes than he may have picked up.

sanguine4 on August 31, 2008 at 10:34 PM

jnelchef on August 31, 2008 at 10:32 PM

He’s just doing his job.

And I mean that as it sounds.

wise_man on August 31, 2008 at 10:35 PM

Ah, the meaningless, likely outcome-based poll of the day.

Gatordoug on August 31, 2008 at 10:35 PM

What was with the guy that said “big oil”? What a doofus!

nottakingsides on August 31, 2008 at 10:35 PM

The only person qualified to be the President Of The United States is a previous president.

There is nothing anyone can do to become qualified except say that they are, which is worth warm spit.

For the most part, the job will require extensive on-the-job training for both the President and Vice President. (sorry Joe Biden)

It is, therefore, the height of hubris for anyone to even think that they are qualified to be President.

As for the current polls, I put them in the warm spit category, too.

pocomoco on August 31, 2008 at 10:35 PM

The first state-by-state/electoral vote breakdown AFTER the Republican convention is what I am interested in.

exhelodrvr on August 31, 2008 at 10:31 PM

Palin should play well in PA, WV, OH, MI, MN, CO, MO, IW and Montana as well as the south. Not so well in FL , NY or CA.

With Palin’s pick McCain is well on his way to wrapping up OH and moving to PA has a battleground state. NC I think just got put out of reach for BHO. VA still in play. But any move towards PA as a battlerground state puts BHO in a very bad place.

unseen on August 31, 2008 at 10:37 PM

Palin is still a great choice for VP and who in the hell is surprised by CNN stacked poll? Media polls are mathematical garbage and the left will continue to publish their trash.

rplat on August 31, 2008 at 10:38 PM

I don’t trust polls at all. I think on balance McCain just lost far many more votes than he may have picked up.

sanguine4 on August 31, 2008 at 10:34 PM

ostrich meets sand

unseen on August 31, 2008 at 10:38 PM

I knew the Repubs would figure out a way to keep Bush and Cheney away from their convention.

alphie on August 31, 2008 at 9:55 PM

Damn that Rove and his hurricane generating evilness. How old are you?

BadgerHawk on August 31, 2008 at 10:40 PM

Ah, the meaningless, likely outcome-based poll of the day.
Gatordoug on August 31, 2008 at 10:35 PM

Yes.

#1. Two months out is no where near where we will be in two months.

#2. The focus group is only as good at the people in attendance who should be a representative of the nation’s demographics of likely voters. A lot of good guessing will never replace the actual votes cast on election day. Polls are a good indication but they are not even as accurate as predicting the weather a week out.
.

I can’t get the Luntz clip to play. I tried everything Quicktime, VLC, DivX, WMV,… A little help please?
BJ on August 31, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Firefox has no idea either. Looking at the properties, c-span.org/archive/c08/c08_083108_aarp.rm – seems to be real media. You can install it here.
But when I click their “get real player free” link, I get a 404 on the install page.

wise_man on August 31, 2008 at 10:43 PM

sanguine4 on August 31, 2008 at 10:34 PM

None of the speakers need to endorse her. She’s not the one running for President. But yeah, watching McCain tout her foreign policy creds was a little sad.

I’m still totally stoked about this election now, though. Yesterday I made my first donation to a candidate.

BadgerHawk on August 31, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Do you really believe CNN? This MSM rigged poll is no doubt as fraud riddled as their news reports on the campaign.

Common sense tells me that with Obama’s lousy associations, his own very serious lack of experience — and mind you, Obama thinks he would like to be pres. The PUMA and Hillary rejected backers in favor of McCain. The NRA and vast number of Evanglicals and Catholics (Christians — a majority in the U.S.) are also McCain supporters.

And Independents seem to be favoring McCain.

All this and the race is tied? Not likely. It’s probably 65% McCain to 23% Obama.

Well, not 65% to 23%, but I think you’re looking at it the right way.

eyedoc on August 31, 2008 at 10:43 PM

A CNN poll as in CNN the second most in the tank for The One network??? Please…

CCRWM on August 31, 2008 at 10:44 PM

What was with the guy that said “big oil”? What a doofus!
nottakingsides on August 31, 2008 at 10:35 PM

Yet another “undecided” focus group voter.

He may as well have jumped up and screamed, “Proletariat unite against the capitalist pig-dogs; we have nothing to lose but our chains!”

Oh yeah, this guy no preconceived opinions at all.

logis on August 31, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Allah

Is this likely voters or just any people polled?

Dr Evil on August 31, 2008 at 10:49 PM

Alphie:

Here are Obama’s qualifications:

Channeled money to Tony Rezko
Took payoffs from Tony Rezko
Laundered money for Tony Rezko

Everybody seems to be missing the point that Obama is either headed to the White House or the Big House.

If Obama does not win the election then the day after Tony will have a chat with Patrick Fitzgerald about his dealings with the Chicago Democratic machine. Look for a pardon for Rezko as Obama’s first act if elected.

jerryofva on August 31, 2008 at 10:49 PM

silverfox on August 31, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Isn’t Alphie just the little darling, Fox? I think the way she drools just before she defecates on the floor is priceless.

Isn’t that right, my little zagnut?

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 10:51 PM

The original poll taken in the CNN newsroom had those thinking Palin was unqualified at 39% until Wolf Blitzer walked into the newsroom and raised his hand. That brought the poll figure to 50%.

If they can get Bill Schneider, James Carville and Paul Begala in the newsroom for tomorrow’s “poll” they may be able to get the figure up to nearly 70% depending on which CNN reporters are off for Labor Day.

viking01 on August 31, 2008 at 10:51 PM

And for this “not qualified to be president” claim? Chakra Hammer said this on another page, and I think it’s pretty good here as well:

Clinton said “my husband didn’t wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June.”
“We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California,” she continued. “You know i just dont understand it.”

is the same as

Palin is one heartbeat away from the presidency

And as well, You could argue that – as many other have said for the last few days here:

Any criticism of Palin’s lack of experience for the presidency because of her being Governor of the state of Alaska as McCain’s VP – can not exist without also putting Obama’s lack of experience being a US senator from Illinois – who is on the top of the ticket with Biden.

wise_man on August 31, 2008 at 10:53 PM

Alphie. What’s up with you?

smellthecoffee on August 31, 2008 at 10:55 PM

This thing was put together bringing people brought in by AARP. What’s that tell you?

Travis1 on August 31, 2008 at 10:57 PM

McCain has the lowest odds of living through his first term of any presidential candidate…

Still higher than Barry’s would’ve been with Hillary as his veep!

PackerBronco on August 31, 2008 at 10:57 PM

ROFLMAO You actually believe that CNN will post an honest survey? If you hurry those time shares in Tehran are still available.

Jdripper on August 31, 2008 at 10:30 PM

2008, the year objective journalism was finally declared dead and buried…

DfDeportation on August 31, 2008 at 11:11 PM

And Palin didn’t use her husbands job and coat tails to get her a job…

DfDeportation on August 31, 2008 at 11:12 PM

5′5″ McCain standing up to the Hurricane is gonna look like the Expedia yard gnome.

alphie on August 31, 2008 at 10:02 PM

That made me laugh, I’ll give you that, alphie.

Just because you made me laugh, I will run with your logic for a moment and assume that Sarah Palin is not qualified to succees McCain.

So, riddle me this: The greatest concern in a McCain presidency would be if he were to die, while the greatest concern in an Obama presidency is if he were to live, correct?

Or has the latest MSM excuse that he is running for President so he must be qualified convinced you?

Damiano on August 31, 2008 at 11:16 PM

We on the right see this as optimism – this means that 50% believe she is ready to lead.

But as I stated last night – since when did this election become about the VPs?

madmonkphotog on August 31, 2008 at 11:20 PM

Ok…manlyrash has me guffawing. Best smackdowns I’ve seen here in a long time.

I think alphie should quit while is way way way behind.

BTW, Zagnut™ candy bars are the best ever and I don’t want to hear different.

Bishop on August 31, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Forget Palin. Read McCain’s interview with Wallace, slowly, thoughtfully. Straight talk, my ass. He’s lying through his teeth about her background and qualifications. He’s lying so blatantly that even he knows it and is probably ashamed of himself. sanguine4 on August 31, 2008 at 10:34 PM

So negative, and on the basis of such incomplete information. Man you need a new handle–may I suggest lachrymose4?

Forget the pundits, the party people, the polls, all that. Yeah, they vote, but how many of them are there? Remember all those lunch-bucket Joes in PA that Obama couldn’t connect with, and Hillary cleaned-up on? They will love Sarah Palin. Remember Reagan Democrats? Hello, meet Sarah Palin. NASCAR dads? Who has ever stood up for the hockey mom? What about women who’ve never considered themselves feminists only because they’ve always felt that feminists didn’t speak for them? How many of are there? So many untapped constituencies, so little time. Let the coasts spin themselves into oblivion–she’ll be busy in fly-over country, transforming the electoral landscape.

smellthecoffee on August 31, 2008 at 11:23 PM

But as I stated last night – since when did this election become about the VPs?
madmonkphotog on August 31, 2008 at 11:20 PM

Ever since the left figured out their POTUS nominee isn’t the winner they thought he was.

Bishop on August 31, 2008 at 11:24 PM

I recently went to Alaska for the 1st time. After a week of watching Alaskan TV, reading newspapers and talking to people who live there, I came away with the impression that Gov Palin was both an “every woman” and a larger than life political hero.

I would have voted McCain anyway, but I find it so refreshing that a “real person” might actually be elected VP. Isn’t is supposed to be “by the people…”?

Don’t most American’s have more in common with the daughter of school teachers, wife of a blue collar worker/fisherman/union member, mother, PTA member,etc…than we do with the Ivy League graduates that we usually vote into high office.

They say she’s not experienced (yet Obama is). What they’re really saying is the she’s not good enough. She wasn’t born with a silver spoon (nor did she marry someone who was), didn’t go to Harvard, she paid for college with beauty pageants and her husband actually works with his hands.

From what I understand, it wasn’t her life long dream to be POTUS. She wasn’t looking for a career in politics. She joined the PTA then was approached to run for mayor, then governor. She was recruited by her peers. Because she showed a TALENT for leadership. For fighting corruption. For getting things done. For standing up for her citizens.

Isn’t that what we really need? The media tells us the country is split 50/50 politically. I think it’s more like 10% Far Left, 10% Far Right and 80% of us in the middle who just want the country to be run without all the drama. Aren’t we tired of the 24/7/365 political campaigns we’ve had since Clinton’s 1st term?

I, for one, am ready to give McCain and Palin the chance to shake DC up.

jbrown93 on August 31, 2008 at 11:24 PM

I can’t get the Luntz clip to play. I tried everything Quicktime, VLC, DivX, WMV,… A little help please?

BJ on August 31, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Realplayer worked for me.

RBMN on August 31, 2008 at 11:27 PM

Come on, if you search the CNN archives you will probably find a poll where 65% of the respondents believe Cheney is a cyborg and Rumsfeldt eats live kittens.

Do you really believe those hacks will try their best to find a broad slice of America? They work off a preset list of folks they KNOW will answer in a given direction.

Bishop on August 31, 2008 at 11:28 PM

I’ll move those undecideds to favorable. Once the RNCC is over, let’s queue up the Rev. Wright clips and finally screw Obama to the wall on how he stayed in that church all those years.

Paging Stanley Kurtz. Any report on the archival dig into the Annenberg Chicago Challenge?

Let’s start talking about energy again. It’s a Palin strong point. She’ll yack your ears off.

Anybody got the picture of Obama body surfing as he got Georgia-Russia wrong twice before agreeing with McCain?

I’m tired of typing except to ask what are the percentages regarding Obama’s readiness? And let’s be sure that it’s readiness to lead and govern rather than readiness to campaign.

POW/WOW ’08!

BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 11:29 PM

Alphie’s left-wing cerebral displacement not withstanding, we have to be more coherent in our rejoinder to this issue than just insulting people who feel it is true. It is true that Palin is less qualified to be President than Barry O. It is just the way it is. It is one of the exposures that McCain chose to battle when he chose her.

You will not comfort the voters or turn people toward a McCain/Palin ticket by shouting them down and insulting them. This is one place where McCain truly hurt himself over with the Palin pick. He has turned the relative inexperience of Obama into a non-issue without looking like a pot and kettle story with Palin.

Most Americans are well aware of the past health issues of McCain as well as his age. Many will view this meaning that Palin is one bad turn away from being President. Admittedly this is true about all Presidents, but the real issue is whether Palin is ready to be President.

Nothing that anybody says here will answer that question. She does not have the experience. So she will have to comfort the American voters herself with how she handles herself in the coming two months. If she succeeds in looking “Presidential” then she will be fine. If she does not then she may be a sinker for the McCain effort.

Hawthorne on August 31, 2008 at 11:29 PM

I was buying that this group had some commonsense UNTIL they all thought Biden was a positive choice because he was a “regular guy.” How clueless can you get?

RBMN on August 31, 2008 at 11:31 PM

…”since when did this election become about the VPs?”
madmonkphotog on August 31, 2008 at 11:20 PM

Obama’s message about Americans being ready for change is not that far off base. Sarah Palin defines that change and puts a face on the future of the Republican party. Biden represents the past, present and future of the Democrats.

myamphibian on August 31, 2008 at 11:31 PM

Remember, this is all Jeri Ryan’s fault. If Seven of Nine hadn’t divorced her sex pervert husband, Jack Ryan, Obama would still be an anonymous IL state legislator.

Blame Jeri.

Hard to believe that TV science fiction had so much influence on the Messiah’s saga. Then again, maybe we are all just watching a very long Star Trek Voyager episode. The original Star Trek’s Spock had big ears too, didn’t he??

fred5678 on August 31, 2008 at 11:31 PM

BTW, Zagnut™ candy bars are the best ever and I don’t want to hear different. – Bishop on August 31, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Best little chocolate-wrapped collection of nuts your money can purchase, Your Grace.

ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 11:35 PM

All these people talking trash about Palin are going to regret it. This woman is going to be the Maggie Thatcher of America.

Give me a break, are Republicans so desperate that they need someone to put on a pedestal? All these comparisons are foolish. Just because Palin is pro-life, believes in creationism, and opposes stem cell research doesn’t mean that she’s the American version of Thatcher or Churchill or De Gaulle on an intellectual, political, or any other basis.

It’s hard to understand why people on the right see such strong intelligence and vision in this woman. To me, she could pass for Bush’s sister- a very likable person but a lightweight.

If she had continued her sports broadcasting career, do you think she would be held in such high regard? Or has her brain been growing over the last 15 years?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiOIEGM7XEs

bayam on August 31, 2008 at 11:35 PM

The thing I found troubling about the focus group was that those who thought experience was more important were still voting for Obama. There is something not making sense in that combination. We can’t let Palin get us off the message that the question isn’t whether Obama is more experienced than Palin. It is whether he is more experienced than McCain.

I was afraid that Palin or Jindal would bring up that problem. Because most people have seen Obama around for a couple of years now it is easy to assume he is more experienced than he is.

Everyone is comparing Obama and Palin. And that is good if we can somehow say that neither of them is ready. Because the real canidate is McCain… But if somehow people mix things up…

I’m not sure the VP’s experience has ever been an issue before. Anyone know? It really shouldn’t be. I think Truman was only a judge before he was picked… Traditionally the VP tries to bring their state. Or in Palin’s case the base of the party.

petunia on August 31, 2008 at 11:37 PM

Haven’t read the comments here, but I saw him running this group today on cspan….these groups are supposed to consist of undecided voters, but several people in this group struck me as anything BUT undecided.

surrounded on August 31, 2008 at 11:38 PM

Who wants to bet – that 50% that thinks Palin is unqualified for the VP slot is almost unanimous in their belief that Obama IS qualified to be President?

Takers?

Jim M. on August 31, 2008 at 11:39 PM

It occurs to me that Palin’s experience is only an issue because everyone thinks McCain is going to die. That’s pretty morbid. THe message needs some work I think.

petunia on August 31, 2008 at 11:39 PM

Let’s compare Sarah’cuda’s accomplishments in 19 mo. in office to say, Speaker Pelosi’s.

Case closed.

Pal2Pal on August 31, 2008 at 11:40 PM

The thing I found troubling about the focus group was that those who thought experience was more important were still voting for Obama. There is something not making sense in that combination.

I’m not sure the VP’s experience has ever been an issue before.
petunia on August 31, 2008 at 11:37 PM

I still don’t get that at all. But if you are a democrat whose been in favor of Obama for the last few months, this narrative about Palin not being qualified must somehow make sense to them.

And Dan Quayle was absolutely pinned with the experience issue. Especially in comparrison to the dinosaur, Lloyd Bensten. And Quayle didn’t take down George HW Bush’s candidacy.

wise_man on August 31, 2008 at 11:40 PM

It is true that Palin is less qualified to be President than Barry O. It is just the way it is. …
Hawthorne on August 31, 2008 at 11:29 PM

I beg to differ. Obama has never attended his Foreign Relations committee meetings, as I recall. He has lots of experience listening, debating, and pontificating, but he has never in his 47 years held an executive position where he had to make a hard decision, or stand up to his Party or fellow Democrat senators. He avoids the decision process with his many ‘present’ or ‘absent’ votes. He was so naked on foreign affairs that he was forced to make a last-minute jaunt to Europe and the Middle East recently. And he had only 150 days actually in the Senate before he became a candidate.

Palin has had significant executive experience – I won’t repeat it all – you are well aware of it.

Palin is way ahead on tough decision-making experience. Way ahead.

fred5678 on August 31, 2008 at 11:41 PM

Hawthorne:

I disagree with your premise that Palin is less qualified then Obama to be President. Obama has an empty resume and is little more then a Chicago political hack. I am a Chicago native and I know the type. His main function was to transfer taxpayer money to friends of the machine. Being mayor of a small town may not qualify you to be President but it is executive experience. Being Governor of a small state like Alaska may not be the same as running California, New York or even Virginia but it is real executive experience. Every Governor is a President in mintature. Being mayor of a small town and Governor of Alaska provides more Presidential level experience then a failed community activist,a back bench state legislator who did little more then vote present and send earmarks to his friends and a one term US Senator who spent two out of his first three years doing nothing then campaign for the Presidency.

If Sarah Palin does not have the requisite experience to preside over the Senate, attend state funerals and make sure her boss is still fogging a mirror then what does that say about Obama’s qualifications to be at the top of the ticket.

jerryofva on August 31, 2008 at 11:42 PM

but several people in this group struck me as anything BUT undecided.

surrounded on August 31, 2008 at 11:38 PM

Yeah that youngish guy in front in the blue shirt. He was an Obama guy for sure. He raised his hand that experience was most important then said he was voting for Obama. That is a problem! Obama is a nothing. State Senator? Gish.

petunia on August 31, 2008 at 11:42 PM

If Sarah Palin does not have the requisite experience to preside over the Senate, attend state funerals and make sure her boss is still fogging a mirror then what does that say about Obama’s qualifications to be at the top of the ticket.

jerryofva on August 31, 2008 at 11:42 PM

Very nicely put! But we need to stop letting everyone compare her to the top of the ticket at all! It just doesn’t matter how much experience she has. Vice-Presidents don’t do anything!!!! (xcept criminal activities according to the current Democratic party.)

They have plenty of time to go hunting and shooting people in the face. And the same thing with whether she can take care of her family. Vice-President is probably less stressful and time consuming than being a Govener and she seemed to do that while pregnant and handling the extra pressure of knowing her child was hanicapped.

Basically she is going to be the woman waiting for John McCain to die.

petunia on August 31, 2008 at 11:48 PM

This quote is a little out of context here, but I had to post it:

Mike Huckabee at today’s rally in MO:

She got more votes when running for mayor of Wasilla Alaska that Joe Biden got in the 2008 Presidential election.

Absolute classic.

Damiano on August 31, 2008 at 11:49 PM

Polls? Nobody has asked me a thing yet!!!

DfDeportation on August 31, 2008 at 11:49 PM

Ok I’m having trouble getting my comments on and its hacking me off…now watch this test make it in, ha.

surrounded on August 31, 2008 at 11:51 PM

What these people don’t understand is that each president and their immediate subordinates will make about 1000 political appointments that will set the course. And those courses are very different. It’s not just what they say. It’s what they’re going to do and the type of people they’re going to bring in to help them. Obama’s going to bring in people that will push the government and the Supreme Court to the far left.

RBMN on August 31, 2008 at 11:52 PM

heh…let me try this again…just sayin, at one point Frank Luntz asked a couple of the guys if they had lied about being undecided to get into the group…it was that obvious.

surrounded on August 31, 2008 at 11:53 PM

heh…let me try this again…just sayin, at one point Frank Luntz asked a couple of the guys if they had lied about being undecided to get into the group…it was that obvious.
surrounded on August 31, 2008 at 11:53 PM

Just as much “undecided voters” as the ones from the CNN democrat debates.

wise_man on September 1, 2008 at 12:01 AM

Who wants to bet – that 50% that thinks Palin is unqualified for the VP slot is almost unanimous in their belief that Obama IS qualified to be President?

Takers?

Jim M. on August 31, 2008 at 11:39 PM

Bing!

No bet…

Jaibones on September 1, 2008 at 12:05 AM

Somehow, I managed to watch it to the end, and it took that long for the group to expose where their biases are, and how little they know about what’s happening. If these are the undecided voters, I shudder to think that the election is in their hands. In most cases, “undecided” seems to mean not paying enough attention to know what you’re talking about, but not letting that get in the way of having a strong opinion.

RBMN on September 1, 2008 at 12:06 AM

Give me a break, are Republicans so desperate that they need someone to put on a pedestal? All these comparisons are foolish. . . It’s hard to understand why people on the right see such strong intelligence and vision in this woman. To me, she could pass for Bush’s sister- a very likable person but a lightweight.

If she had continued her sports broadcasting career, do you think she would be held in such high regard? Or has her brain been growing over the last 15 years?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiOIEGM7XEs

bayam on August 31, 2008 at 11:35 PM

Obviously it has. Compare her delivery in the video you linked to the speech she gave in Dayton. You know what? Some people have just got it, and she is one of them. How else could little ol’ hockey mom force a commissioner on oil and natural gas to admit wrong doing and pay a fine, reform that commission, unseat an intrenched incumbent governor supported by an intrenched good old boy network, get a corrupt State Attorney General fired, and all this in a bare handful of years? What was it about being mayor of a town of 9,000 that prepared her to do those things? Whatever it was, she knew how to put it to use, and step it up to the next level. It’s called talent. McCain saw it; that’s why he picked her. Do you think he wants to get embarrassed? Smell the smoke and get out of the way.

smellthecoffee on September 1, 2008 at 12:07 AM

I enjoy the Dems who are insisting on McCain dropping her and getting another running mate.

Since when do Dems get to choose the Repubs ticket?

If she’s so weak, let it stand; you obviously have nothing to fear.

All this talk about her not being qualified is moot, isn’t it? Obama is destined to win it all in a landslide, so no worries about Mrs. Palin, right?

Texan on September 1, 2008 at 12:07 AM

If she’s so weak, let it stand; you obviously have nothing to fear.
Texan on September 1, 2008 at 12:07 AM

You can always see what your political adversary (or anyone for that matter) thinks by what they tell you. And what you can gleam from what they want you to believe. And of course your insight is very well placed on this one, Texan.

wise_man on September 1, 2008 at 12:10 AM

I have a theory.

What if, say over the past month, support for McCain and support for Obama has not changed enough to bat an eye at?

Say that you weigh yourself on a scale and you get a certain weight. Then you weigh yourself a couple of days later on another scale and you weigh 5 pounds less than when you started, but then a couple of days later you weigh yourself on another scale and you weigh 5 pounds more than when you started. Then you weigh yourself on the scale that you started on and you weigh five pounds more than you weighed on that scale before, so then you weigh yourself on one of the other scales that you had weighed on before but you weigh 5 pounds less than you had weighed on that scale before.

Has your weight really been changing at all or is it just a big joke on you and the scales are not very accurate?

I suspect it to be mostly the later.

MB4 on September 1, 2008 at 12:13 AM

Damn lying scales!

Sorry…

Texan on September 1, 2008 at 12:15 AM

So, riddle me this: The greatest concern in a McCain presidency would be if he were to die, while the greatest concern in an Obama presidency is if he were to live, correct?

Considering Clinton (to the surprise of many Republicans like me) did a pretty decent job of being President…I think Obama get the benefit of the doubt.

He certainly has a better chance of finding a way for us to compete with China than McCain does.

alphie on September 1, 2008 at 12:19 AM

Damn lying scales!

Sorry…

Texan on September 1, 2008 at 12:15 AM

The fishmonger has honest scales. It’s the fish that smell.

RBMN on September 1, 2008 at 12:20 AM

Why is PALIN’S fitness for office the lead story here?

Fact is, the Dems falt that BIDEN wasn’t fit for the office, as evidenced by his epic failure in the primaries. Yet Obama picked him.

So the entire Dem ticket is unqualified.

Allah, stop playing out your jagged nerves over media games.

Trump on September 1, 2008 at 12:20 AM

Has your weight really been changing at all or is it just a big joke on you and the scales are not very accurate?
I suspect it to be mostly the later.
MB4 on September 1, 2008 at 12:13 AM

I’ve noticed that’s twice today that you commented on something and didn’t say a damn thing that anyone could possibly understand. But just inside your own head that is.

Just what the hell you were trying to say.

Can…you…under…stand…the…words…coming….out….of….my…..mouth?

Too confusing for you?

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on September 1, 2008 at 12:37 AM

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