Alan Colmes should read for comprehension
posted at 2:35 pm on August 31, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Normally, I’d ignore most of what Alan Colmes has to say, because when he’s not appointing himself the arbiter of proper motherhood, he’s rewriting history. However, his post at Liberaland today isn’t so much offensive to Allahpundit and me as it is revealing of Colmes’ lack of intellectual heft. Take a look at this laugher, emphasis mine:
The idea that you can’t question Sarah Palin’s judgment because she has a Down Syndrome baby is right up there with the outrage some feel the minute you question a man who was held in a prison camp for five years. Yet, the same outraged protectors of our values have no trouble questioning Obama’s judgment: a nodding acquaintance with someone in his neighborhood, his choice of a church, his very faith, and then they blamed that on the Clintons). The question was even raised as to whether he is hiding the truth of his birth certificate. In fact, hotair.com, the the site most outraged about what I posted, was one of the prime venues of the birth certificate debate, among others concerning Obama’s “judgment”. And let’s not forget the attacks on Michelle Obama and the insinuations that she doesn’t really love her country.
Not only were we almost totally disinterested in the birth certificate debate, what little AP and I wrote about it debunked the meme. I’ll save you the search of our archives that “journalist” Alan Colmes neglected and give a list of our posts:
So we wrote four whole posts in more than two months on this topic, all of them after the Obama campaign released the birth certificate, and every single time to say that this was a really dumb topic and that conservatives should abandon it. It would have taken Colmes all of ten minutes to check this out before writing his post, but he’s too busy concocting smears to bother with minor tasks like fact-checking.
I used to respect Colmes. No longer.
Update (AP): I know Ed’s written other posts debunking lies about Obama, but here’s a few more of my own: Defending him from McCain’s accusation that he didn’t visit the troops at Landstuhl because he couldn’t bring the media; defending him from allegations that he secretly leaked the prayer he left at the western wall; defending him from the dopey rumors about dual citizenship; and even defending him from pedestrian inaccuracies about his tax plan. But none of that fits the Narrative about a nonstop smear orgy against The One at conservative websites, so lay them aside and rock on, Alan.
Update (Ed): And just to address Colmes’ other point, yes we do focus on Barack Obama’s judgment. Who made that a campaign issue — indeed, even the main basis for his campaign? Three guesses.
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I think Alan Colmes is an honorable, good man.You might notice that Hannity treats his friend with respect. If Hannity can do that, it shouldn’t be too hard for the rest of us.
BTW, I am a Conservative, not some liberal loon. My respect for Colmes doesn’t extend to his ideologies. It must be hard for him to be the Liberal front man on H&C, often defending the indefensible for the Liberal cause. He has to know it’s often hogwash; I’m guessing that he assumes that Conservatives also are playing the same game, that they really can’t believe all the stuff they spout.
Ah well.
Doug on August 31, 2008 at 4:05 PM
This one deserves comment…usually a lurker,just read the posts and try to be objective to the arguments presented.
That being said alan colmes(doesn’t warrant capitalization)is a true piece of trash.This from one of his defense minions or should I say minion
.The best they have is smearing her name and questioning her judgement on the birth of her child.I have a nephew with speech problems(deafness related) and 3 healthy kids of my own…maybe I ought to call my sister and question her judgement on bringing him into the world(must be nice to be judge and jury on birthing,right???libs).Question her on her policies,decisions from the office. Try to defend your views but calling the question of her birthing is downright shamefull.
raceroh on August 31, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Ok, on the Colmes site on the current comments section, about halfway down a poster provides a link to the comments that were said to be so vile.
Bishop on August 31, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Colmes is a perfect illustration of the left’s inability to think logically.
We conservatives questioned Obama’s judgment not only because of his choice of church, for example, but because he stayed there for 20 years and had the, ahem…. audacity to tell us that he didn’t recall Wright saying anything particularly incendiary or objectionable. To any sane person, this simply does not make sense.
Of course, for someone like Colmes the obvious comparison for the argument is to question Palin’s decision to keep her unborn child, live by her principles and take responsibility. For a leftist the only “responsible” thing to do would be to abort the baby and spare the world of an “imperfect” child. At the same time, they are opposed to capital punishment for rapists, murders and child molesters.
There are times when I’m convinced there is no point in engaging in debate with liberal loons. If they had any brains, they must have fried them years ago.
Cody1991 on August 31, 2008 at 4:16 PM
And we all have so many faces
The real self often erases
Enticing lies flicker through our eyes
Feel the terror draw ever nearer
The more you stare in the mirror
BlakeneyP on August 31, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Wait a minute … I thought Libs were in favor of women controlling their own bodies. Isn’t Colmes a man? By his own policial leaning, he has no standing to comment on a woman’s choice!
MochaLite on August 31, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Hehe. I remember when Colmes left the show for a week to go on his “Honeymoon” with his “wife.” Hannity wasn’t able to say either word once with a straight face.
Seriously though. Why do we have to constantly act surprised every time that men who hate women turn out to be misogynists?
logis on August 31, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Colmes and the liberals are trying to kill the Palin candidacy in the womb. It’s their natural instinct.
rivlax on August 31, 2008 at 4:22 PM
OK, logis – what are you insinuating? No, I’m just curious. I’ve never heard anything about it.
Bambi on August 31, 2008 at 4:30 PM
Sometimes I think the only reason Fox News keeps Colmes on is to remind us that there are a whole slew full of people out there who think the exact same way he does, just so that we never let our guard down or in case we start feeling comfortable with the liberal point of view.
pilamaye on August 31, 2008 at 4:30 PM
I always thought that Allen was a harmless idiot until this one broke but this was over the edge. He should be fired at once and replaced with a liberal with a brain (if such a thing actually exists).
duff65 on August 31, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Alan Colmes, IF ONLY!
Read records and think again.
maverick muse on August 31, 2008 at 4:31 PM
One of the things I’ve always liked about Fox News is that it was the only station where both sides seemed to be allowed to speak.
Does the network in general lean right? Yep. But only insofar as the number of regular on-air personalities who engage in commentary.
Their non-commentary news presentation strikes me as very balanced .. and sometimes .. especially lately during the Denver flop .. a little left-leaning.
Now one of the people I point to every time one of my liberal friends tells me Fox is a right-wing mouthpiece has turned out to be a big turd sandwich (yes, I love South Park).
cgoode777 on August 31, 2008 at 4:39 PM
“The idea that you can’t question Sarah Palin’s judgment because she has a Down Syndrome baby…
Total BS attempt to re write HIS OWN history. That is not the issue and never was. The issue is his despicable comments regarding her actions pre birth and the effect on the child. This is just one more transparent attempt to change the topic rather than take responsibility. Scum.
America1st on August 31, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Just say “No”, man. Drugs are bad, m’kay?
As for Colmes, he’s paid to be the Resident Creepy-Leftie Jerk, and it looks like he enjoys his work. Anyone who expects him to be honest or straightforward is Veering Towards Disappointment
Janos Hunyadi on August 31, 2008 at 4:44 PM
I spent a good 45 minutes last night reading every comment on Colmes web site.
At the time (about midnight CA time) there were a little over a hundred posts. 3 defended him and the rest raked his skinning body over the coals. From that maybe 7 or 8 were pretty foul, (even by the lefty standards). The rest were just calling a liberal a liberal but with conviction.
Taking down an entire story with comments for less than a dozen “over the top” dirt bags is pretty “wussiefide” behavior me thinks.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on August 31, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Hannity and Powers – I likee.
Alan always brings up the most inane and petty questions of the guests. He makes the libs look especially petulant, whiny and stupid. At least Kristen brings up interesting points and questions from the other side and doesn’t pose idiotic arguments.
Queen0fCups on August 31, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Hmmm… so he could not just EDIT or DELETE those comments? Like all the other Sites out there?
Or, is it more the fact that the comments make him look bad, so he is now trying to make it go down the memory hole before the MSM gets ahold of it?
Romeo13 on August 31, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Well, I used to respect the man (Colmes) even though it’s obvious to me that he makes a point of stepping on the comments of those he’s interviewing…several at FOX do that. I can live with the fact that he’s an unrepentant liberal, too. I lost all respect for him however, when he cursed on the air on 8/13/08. A young lady was watching when he said “Well, life’s a b$%#h!” That young lady turned to me and said, “Why does he get away with saying that on television when young people may be watching?”
I wrote immediately to him, Hannity and any producer I could find on their website. I don’t mind that he’s an idiot, but I don’t want him subjecting children to the lunacy!
Vntnrse on August 31, 2008 at 4:50 PM
And the liberals inch toward Snerdly losing his bet to Rush…
Sir Andrew on August 31, 2008 at 4:54 PM
I am personally offended by Alan’s comments today, most notably in that I have my own baby son with down syndrome. With attitudes like Alan’s, I can see why over 90% of women have abortions when DS is prenatally diagnosed. It’s a damn shame, my kid is slower developmentally but he’s a great kid, and really easy to raise (that seems counterintuitive, but it’s the truth).
HOWEVER …
I think we only play into Alan’s hands by getting angry and posting hateful and insulting comments laden with profanity, here or on his site. I say best to ignore this, and if you can’t, disagree strongly but not in such a way that someone can take your words and use them to beat all conservatives or Hotair posters over the head as raging and out of control. We need to be grown-up. “Be angry and sin not” etc.
zmrzlina on August 31, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Why the Hell is that anyway? It seems like every conservative in the media has to be either a lone wolf with liberal guests and excerpts, or paired with a Party apparatchik.
Even an average liberal is dumb enough to provoke an hour’s worth of intelligent comment from just a very few minutes of stream-of-unconsciousness jabber. Why in the heck do we need professional morons taking up half our airtime and wearing out my TiVo’s fast forward button?
Why not have two conservatives on one show? There are a great many things about which reasonable people can disagree – why not focus on those instead of wasting half of our one percent of the media broadcasting that much more liberal nonsense? It’s not like there’s a shortage out there.
logis on August 31, 2008 at 4:58 PM
“He asked a judgement question about a 7 month pregnant woman who just had her water break GET ON A 12 HOUR FLIGHT TO GIVE BIRTH after giving a 30 MINUTE SPEECH instead of doing the SENSIBLE THING AND STAYING PUT WITH A DOCTOR.”
The left has aborted and “chosen” their selfish lifestyle so often that they are ill equipped to comment on this. Not all water breakage is the same. Sometimes it is just a tiny tear and little bit of fluid.
Perfectly normal for a woman on her FIFTH child to make a judgment call that she can make the flight home to get care.
America1st on August 31, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Well, the pretty thing rhymes in two places or four places, depending on how you count them, don’t you see? And if a rhyme rhymes, it makes a poem, if you follow me.
BlakeneyP on August 31, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Well Od’s fish, m’dear, will you not even defend your baby’s honor? Challenge the monstrous intolerable wretched man to a duel.
BlakeneyP on August 31, 2008 at 5:10 PM
I don’t know the technology in how they did it but for over an hour everything posted was there. This morning, all gone.
I should have taken a screen shot of a few of them, but it was late and I was fuzzy.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on August 31, 2008 at 5:12 PM
What bet? I missed that.
SouthernGent on August 31, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Outside of the Colmes topic, that page on Obama’s site had a very interesting couple of lines (emphasis mine);
For historical purposes, its interesting to note that (a) Mr. Obama proceeded quickly from the state level to federal level without seeing this as a detriment to the office in which he seeks (see Sarah Palin as a VP candidate) and (b) Mr. Obama feels his foreign policy expertise is superior to that of Senators Biden and McCain without ever having engaged in foreign policy matters.
I’m just saying…
Geministorm on August 31, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Perhaps Fox news would be better off without Colmes. After all, isn’t their line “Fair and Balanced”. He brings up the unfair and unbalanced topics.
MrsWeebork on August 31, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Colmes is the obvious foil to Hannity: he’s extremely unattractive and fancies himself an mental heavy-hitter, but in reality is the poorest, most illogical and intellectually dishonest debater I’ve ever seen. While I think he represents the left perfectly, I sometimes wonder whether he was chosen to be the opposite of Hannity in every respect (not that I think Hannity is such a great debater, btw). He’s almost a self-parody, and every time he opens his mouth, he does a great service to conservatives.
mr.blacksheep on August 31, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Many commentators talk over guests once in a while. As OReilly said, “It’s my show.” But for some reason the Liberals do it excessively. Colmes, Beckel, etc. constantly just keep on yapping when a guest is trying to respond. And a far as I’m concerned Kristen Powers is worse than Colmes. All she can do is repeat Dem talking points endlessly, no matter what the question or topic.
I do love it when Rove, or North, or Gingrich just verbally pats them on the heads and then goes on to tear up their comment.
Deanna on August 31, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Here’s a little verification from my comment over at the “Bosses” page:
1GooDDaDDy on August 31, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Alan Colmes must be desperate or inexcusably ill-informed. On his worst day, though, he is still more civil and reasonable than, say, the nut case bloggers and competing news anchors driving his once respectable party off a steep cliff.
In my workplace, almost all of us are conservatives, but my nearest colleague is a progressive peacenik. I keep my radio volume low as I listen to talk radio throughout my workday and am otherwise respectful of her. Last Friday at 9:00am Pacific Time, a few of us gathered discreetly in an office where a like-minded employee has a TV set to watch — and cheer — Palin’s Ohio introduction. My liberal work mate walked in unexpectedly, swiftly completed her task and flung the door open so angrily on her way out that it almost broke loose — hence, the word “unhinged.”
Where Alan Colmes works at FNC and Fox Radio, there is probably a similar ratio of conservatives to liberals. Plus, Rupert Murdoch — of Murdoch Derangement Syndrome — is his boss. To reference his comedic past, that makes Colmes the Rodney Dangerfield of liberal pundits. Unless he is auditioning for a job at MSNBC where an imminent opening is rumored, personally I would cut him some election year slackburger with cheese.
Terrie on August 31, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Too obvious, ham-handed and dim-witted. FOX should punt the gnomish Alan Colmes and replac him with liberal hottie Kirsten Powers. She is the perfect foil for Hannity: good looking, articulate, a nice voice and totally, insanely liberal – but in a manner that can be reasonably vocalized. He is a handsome, articulate young conservative. She is a gorgeous, articulate young liberal.
I would watch it – just to gawk at Kirsten.
ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 5:26 PM
I strongly disagree. Powers article yesterday was intelligently written and was one of few lefty arguments that offered criticism without resorting to sexist or otherwise repulsive attacks: http://www.nypost.com/seven/08302008/news/columnists/a_brilliant_trap_makes_dems_the_male_cha_126765.htm
Colmes has gone completely off the deep end. I have always disagreed with him, but respectfully. Respect ended yesterday and now I have moved to downright loathing.
Damiano on August 31, 2008 at 5:33 PM
I can’t stand Skelator and every time I see him or hear him, I end up screaming at the TV because he has made such an outrageous statement about something. The more he talks, the more we see how unintelligent he is. I would say stupid, but then people would call me mean-spirited and after all, I’m not calling Bush, Hitler.
flytier on August 31, 2008 at 5:34 PM
-El Rushbo on 08/29/08
Mr. Wednesday Night on August 31, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Sigh. It took me some time to resurrect the links and re-reread the hard copies. Judge for yourself.
From 2004 Chicago Sun-Times article:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/falsani/726619,obamafalsani040504.article#
***
Here’s a June 2008 article by Cal Thomas. I think this article is what called my attention to Obama’s faith:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/printpage/?url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/obama_is_no_joshua.html
Here’s a second link to a Cal Thomas Web site for the same article. It has at least one comment that would be critical of what I’ve written in this regard.
http://www.calthomas.com/index.php?mode=print&news=2288
ManlyRash, I’ll stand by what I said. I’m not interested in any back and forth. You are undeniably correct that no one can read another’s heart, but I feel comfortable quoting Obama’s words and drawing my own conclusions.
I’ve provided links, and I don’t think I’ve cherry-picked or read any material out of context. I do appreciate the criticism that you leveled at me (and that one commenter leveled at Thomas) for questioning Obama’s Christianity.
Whatever the case, I’ve had an extraordinary problem with Obama’s claim of being a Christian as he sat silent in Wright’s church for as many as 15 years while Wright sowed the seeds of hate and lies and seething resentment in the hearts and minds of 7,000 congregants on too many weeks during all those years. I strongly believe that if Obama were to mean what he says now about too many matters, he would have been in Wright’s grill complaining about his sermons. Not having done so, I’ve always regarded Obama’s membership in TUCC as a matter of political expedience. And, with the words I’ve quoted, I’ll maintain that Obama’s faith is not what I was taught is Christianity.
BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Colmes is an idiot, period.
American on August 31, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Rush is right. OTOH, Colmes is not.
If Colmes really thought he was right in his “judgment”, he would have just closed the comments and left them up. But then others could have seen that there were “decent and value-driven” comments that ripped Colmes up.
As it is, he can just continue to smear.
Here are some comments from his thread that I cut-and-pasted last night when his page was hard to load:
INC on August 31, 2008 at 5:48 PM
+1
Entelechy on August 31, 2008 at 5:48 PM
It’s a bit of a stretch to declare Colmes honorable and good based on the fact that Sean Hannity is professionally respectful in their dealings on FNC. They are friendly on the air but I’ve never seen evidence they are friends (like Mort Kondrake and Fred Barnes).
That was what he was hired to do. The show was essentially built around putting Hannity’s (local) talk radio show on TV. Colmes slot was designated LNL for liberal to be named later. It shows. Hannity is far more flexible and dynamic in the interview sections than the crap Colmes asks. His exclusives with Democrats are nothing more than Larry King questions while Hannity’s exclusives are much more interesting.
highhopes on August 31, 2008 at 5:51 PM
I’m Alan Colmes Unnamed Player.
sven10077 on August 31, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Colmes has the job I think Powers should have. She is articulate, respectful, and asks good questions. The only down side is that she’s attractive which could sway people to her side!
highhopes on August 31, 2008 at 5:55 PM
He cannot fact check-the facts would counterdict him.
I have not respected Colmes for years, he had proven himself a lier way back then.
Hey of course he is alier-he’s a leftie isn’t he?
allrsn on August 31, 2008 at 5:56 PM
After watching H&C, I’m always left with one question:
“why does Alan Colmes hate America?”
grtflmark on August 31, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Strange how Alan Colmes wants to allow women the freedom to choose when it comes to their reproduction, but when they do something he doesn’t understand, he automatically calls into question their judgment. Colmes is not a doctor, much less an OB/GYN, and doesn’t have the slightest clue as to the conversation that took place between Palin and her doctor.
If Colmes has information that Palin, by action or inaction, harmed her newborn while under a doctor’s care, then he should bring this information forward. If all he has is baseless accusations, then he has discredited himself horribly.
Colmes, you’re a “pro-choice” kind of guy; why don’t you choose to keep your mouth shut until you actually have all the facts? Until you do have all the facts, all your whimpering about judgment not only falls on deaf ears, but it makes you look like a hypocrite who follows party over principles.
john1schn on August 31, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Like most Liberals Colmes hates himself. America is simply the surrogate for Colmes anger which he’s too cowardly to direct at his mental slovenliness and misguided Great Society / Marxist politics.
viking01 on August 31, 2008 at 6:05 PM
What begins as a dream can end as a nightmare. Some causes can become warped and twisted, like some men.
BlakeneyP on August 31, 2008 at 6:07 PM
Ugh. I just learned a lesson in composing on this system. I had a long (no rant) response. It didn’t take.
At any rate, Point well take, but I’ll stand my ground.
Here’s a link to a 2004 Chicago Sun-Times article:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/falsani/726619,obamafalsani040504.article
Here are two versions of a Cal Thomas article, which, I believe, is what brought this to my attention.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/printpage/?url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/obama_is_no_joshua.html
http://www.calthomas.com/index.php?news=2288
The second has a few comments.
BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 6:07 PM
Don’t know why you even bother with Colmes. His nose is so far up The Chosen One’s ass, he has to ask for permission to breathe. “Nodding acquaintance”? They served together on the same board. Obama launched his career from Ayer’s living room. “Choice of church”? Yeah, when what is preached from the pulpit is hate and division. Go get a handkerchief and wipe your nose Colmes.
GarandFan on August 31, 2008 at 6:09 PM
Like you, I read many of the comments to Colmes’ post last night. I don’t think I went over that long, but I did read most of them. Like you, I found that there were only a few, that 7 or 8, which were just over-the-top foul and obscene. Some supporters in there, some non-sequitor, many just venting anger and frustration, and several that I thought were very well articulate and damaging that didn’t involve personal insults.
Indeed, it is strange that Colmes would remove the posting over supposedly obscene comments. Does he not, as administrator of the site, have the ability to remove those obscene postings? As far as I’m concerned, it was the likes of those commenters who were civil, but still hit Colmes between the eyes in his error, that lead to Colmes’ removal of the posting. I think it also shows that Colmes has thin skin. He can dish it out, but he can’t take it, especially when it’s legitimate criticism. Crude and obscene postings are easy to ignore for obvious reasons.
Weebork on August 31, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Michelle loves her country?
I saw H&C one night and some guest had made the comment that Colmes didn’t really believe everything he was saying. Hannity said, laughing a little, he believes everything he says, if only it weren’t so.
Sue on August 31, 2008 at 6:13 PM
I went from sigh to ugh. I’ve had two responses not take. I must be a bad commenter.
Point taken. I stand by what I wrote. I direct you to a 2004 Chicago Sun-Times article by its religion writer, Cathleen Falsani. Also, there are two versions of a June 2008 Cal Thomas article that brought the issue to my attention. One was in Real Clear Politics.
BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 6:15 PM
Alan Colmes is a lightweight trying to impress people with snark as a substitute for intelligence. He would be Alan Homeless if Roger Ailes had not hired him. I watched one the initial episodes of “Hannity and Colmes” and he was so stupid that I was flabbergasted that anyone would hire him.
He is a “America needs to be taught a lesson-type” and is welcomed to his opinion; and more power to the USA that we have all types of opinions in the media, but he is also pretty incompetent and his arguments are disjointed - at best.
Branch Rickey on August 31, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Ed, I like it when you are pissed-off. There’s an edge, but you stay rational. Bravo.
lionheart on August 31, 2008 at 6:19 PM
By the way, as a good lesson, as regular commenters at Hot Air, let’s try to refrain from the sophomoric personal insults to Colmes. Let’s not give him an excuse to label commenters here as a bunch of raving lunatics like they are at the DailyKos and DU.
Go after why what he said was wrong, don’t go after his wife, his looks, or any other thing that is personal. Let’s leave the childish behavior to the Democrats.
Weebork on August 31, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Excepts from my response at Colmes blog, pasted because they seem relevant to this discussion:
Damiano on August 31, 2008 at 6:25 PM
If he’s so concerned about vile comments, why are there ones like this in the other threads on that site?
SnarkVader on August 31, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Very, very well said, sir.
ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 6:29 PM
I didn’t read that response on Colmes’ blog, but that was the kind of civil, but smack-down worthy comments I was referring to earlier. Well said.
Weebork on August 31, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Alan Colmes………………. Never asked a question that he won’t interrupt while his guest is trying to answer. By the way, here he is, before the make-p.
Seven Percent Solution on August 31, 2008 at 6:33 PM
what IS that? Colmes has made hundreds of offensive, biased, partisan, demeaning, and often….creepy comments specifically intended to insult and ridicule conservatives and Republicans.
His comments about Sarah Palin as a parent are the perfect example of ‘Creepy-Leftie’. Got it?
Janos Hunyadi on August 31, 2008 at 6:36 PM
SnarkVader on August 31, 2008 at 6:25 PM –
A rather disgusting post there, to say the least.
As to the larger question…call it for what it is.
Cowardice.
The exercise of free speech is more than just making a statement. It also requires accepting responsibility for that statement.
Erasing a thread online because your worshipful audience finds it glaringly offensive, and then concocting some insipid story about why one had to delete a thread deomonstrates intellectual dishonesty…cowardice.
It isn’t only Colmes who is guilty of this particular intellectual sin. Others on the Left routinely do it as well. Stuffing classified documents into one’s pants and socks and later calling it “poor judgement,” redacting 20 years of one’s personal history to prevent it from seeing the light of day, obfuscating when asked direct questions, telling the world that one’s full and complete military record will be made available for public scrutiny and then refusing to release those recordsd, is no different. We all have seen this as a matter of course from the Left over the past many years.
Honest people say what they mean, and mean what they say, and will defend it honorably no matter how off base their commentary is or how fleeting their judgement may be.
Anything else is pure cowardice.
coldwarrior on August 31, 2008 at 6:37 PM
It is my contention that Alan removed the post out of having egg on his face. He did not expect the amount of negative feedback that he received. He’s used to the liberal echo chamber, where liberal thoughts are repeated and respected. But rather than own up to his below-the-belt comment, he has mistakenly dug in and decided to defend his inexcusable comment by attempting to go on the offensive. If he wants to attempt to defend such a ridiculous and down right libelous comments that end up digging the hole deeper, so be it.
Hannity should publically rebuke what Colmes said to Colmes while on the air on the next airing of H&C. Hannity owes it to his self-integrity and respect to distance himself from Colmes until Colmes makes amend.
Weebork on August 31, 2008 at 6:38 PM
If I’m not mistaken, even MSNBC benched (suspended) that toad David Schuster when he disparaged Chelsea Clinton–saying the Clintons were “pimping her out” during the primaries.
I say e-mail Fox and demand a suspenison. He has every right to say what he wants on his blog, but viewers should have a voice regarding who it sees on H&C. E-mail them.
I’ve seen people chatting up Kirsten Powers, but I think she’s a dopey Kool-Aid drinker. She continues to think Wright and Ayers are irrelevent. I vote for Susan Estrich: liberal but intelligent and reasonable.
BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 6:38 PM
+1
We need more Ed posts!!
zmrzlina on August 31, 2008 at 6:39 PM
Colmes obviously has good researchers on his staff. Shows that the left really has a hard time reading the right. Same thing can be said of their surprise at the Palin VP pick.
AC is green on this one.
The Race Card on August 31, 2008 at 6:46 PM
in allcaps, my other first language:
ALAN, HOW COULD YOU BE SO DUMB?
The Race Card on August 31, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Who was the ventriloquist?
Jim Treacher on August 31, 2008 at 6:51 PM
Your post, in its entirety, is excellent. But what I’ve quoted are sentiments that are extraordinarily well put. Thank you for taking the time to compose them.
BuckeyeSam on August 31, 2008 at 6:51 PM
Now there you go…that wasn’t too hard now was it? ;-)
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on August 31, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Jeff DUNNN HAAAMMMMMM…..
Hmmm… come to think on it… Colmes does kinda look like Mr. Jalapeno on a Stick… and the stick is in the right place…
Romeo13 on August 31, 2008 at 6:55 PM
I stand by what I wrote. I direct you to a 2004 Chicago Sun-
Neither Ms. Falsani nor Mr. Thomas – as much as I esteem them – are God. Let it be, Sam. There are far more fertile fields than this to harvest political fruit.
ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Everyone is spot on here. Well done. I regret that I’ve only happened upon this place recently and I am grateful for the opportunity to post here.
I admit that I would adore Kirsten Powers as a Colmes replacement for the sole purpose that she is eye candy. The fact that her arguments are more reasoned than Colmes’ is a bonus.
:)
Damiano on August 31, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Just my humble opinion, Sam, but our dear Susan comes across as a strident harpy with a voice that sounds like she had one bottle of bourbon and one pack of Marlboro too many. No thanks.
ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 7:00 PM
ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 7:00 PM –
Yeah, she does come across as a bartender in one of those establishments across the street from the old steel plant. But, as the former campaign manager for Mike “Tank Commando” Dukakis, she does offer a perspective that an Alan Colmes will never comprehend.
coldwarrior on August 31, 2008 at 7:03 PM
I’ve never thought very highly of Colmes or his intellect. The things he does with that left eyebrow when trying to win an argument makes me crazy, so I’ve stopped watching the show altogether. Hannity is cute though, but not enough to offset Alan and his eyebrow.
UnEasyRider on August 31, 2008 at 7:04 PM
A man of most excellent and refined tastes. I salute you, sir!
Apologies for the syntax, but I am still watching the HBO John Adams series. My goodness, those men knew how to converse back then. Even when they cursed each other, they were polite. Hence, William Bligh addressing Spencer Christian: “Goddamn you, sir!”
Apropos of nothing, but I thought I might share it.
ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 7:04 PM
Yeah, sorry to say it because I like a lot of what Estrich says… but…
She has a face made for Radio…
And a voice made for newsprint….
Romeo13 on August 31, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Very true. I give her props for experience, intellect and even a sense of humor.
ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 7:07 PM
I hope that was a joke.
Estrich is unbearable.
Like watching Carol Channing on acid.
cgoode777 on August 31, 2008 at 7:08 PM
Well said, sir.
ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 7:08 PM
That is what makes it such a deliciously masochistic experience to watch her. To distract from the pain, I drive a fork into my thigh. My goal before November 4 is to penetrate the femur and scrape the marrow.
ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 7:11 PM
Liberal with a brain, duff65? That would be a first.
m064404 on August 31, 2008 at 7:11 PM
The left was thrown a high hanging fastball they never saw coming w/the Palin pick. Forgive them for they know not what they do.
Colmes in a tail spin …
Benjamin9 on August 31, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Liberal with a brain, duff65? That would be a first.
m064404 on August 31, 2008 at 7:11 PM
I often recall what an old friend told me years and years ago…
“If you are 18 and not a liberal, you have no heart.
If you are 30 and not a conservative, you have no brain.”
coldwarrior on August 31, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Alan Colmes is afflicted with a severe case of liberalism which is the worst disease that anyone can purposely want to contract.
Symptoms are delusions of history and nasty personality.
grapeknutz on August 31, 2008 at 7:15 PM
LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER…
Alan Colmes, who is an admitted liberal, is a rabid, manic depressive inmate of the Rat party!
byteshredder on August 31, 2008 at 7:16 PM
Obama’s Panama?
Written by ed on June 10
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/10/obamas-panama/
Hmmm…not on the “official” list.
alphie on August 31, 2008 at 7:19 PM
“If you’re not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you’re not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”
Winston Churchill….
Romeo13 on August 31, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Nay, I salute you, Sir!
Revolutionary period political speeches are a hoot. We’ve sincerely lost something since those times. Your observation is extremely relevant, I think.
I have never had issue with “negative” campaigning. Political arguments should be heated and pointed. Heck, the structure of our government was designed by hateful, wig-wearing bastards to provide a better forum to foster arguments. The difference is that back then, there was line between attack a person and attacking his politics. That line was never crossed, but it got ugly as hell on the proper side. Then they’d all go out for beers together at the local tavern and argue some more.
If anyone ever goes to Philadelphia or studies our founding father’s processes, you’ll see that less happened in Constitution hall than in the bar around the corner or the churches down the street. I can say, even as an atheist who fully supports separation of church and state, those were better days.
Damiano on August 31, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Foghorn Leghorn says:
Aah say, sumpin’ aint right with that boy.
TheSitRep on August 31, 2008 at 7:25 PM
I’ve known you all of one day – and only through the impersonal ether of the Internet – yet I like you. Very much, sir, very much. How I wish I could buy you a beer. We could discuss…theology, among other things. Hours would fly by like minutes.
THIS is what is meant by the Republican Big Tent.
ManlyRash on August 31, 2008 at 7:27 PM
IMO it was more the idea that if you made insinuations of dishonorable conduct, there were legally viable means to call that man to the field of honor…
Now, politicians can lie, and cheat, without consequence.
In the days of the founding fathers, what Murtha said about the Haditha Marines would have left him a stinking corpse upon the Village Green some day at dawn…
And on a personal note…. as someone who is both a pretty good shot, and someone who does Elizabethan Fencing at a National Level… I’d welcome the return of those days… LOL…
Romeo13 on August 31, 2008 at 7:27 PM
I won’t say that I respected Colmes. However, I grew to like Colmes (only a little) because, despite the fact he was a liberal, he didn’t strike me as the “angry liberal” type often heard on Air America.
But now the only liberals I can tolerate are Kirstin Powers, Juan Williams, and Susan Estrich (but only in small doses).
eaglescout1998 on August 31, 2008 at 7:28 PM
Agreed. Hannity & Colmes should become Hannity & Powers.
Sir Andrew on August 31, 2008 at 7:30 PM
zmrzlina on August 31, 2008 at 4:55 PM
You take the high road, whereas
Colmes just flushed himself down the low.
Asshats are so used to thinking themselves clever.
But the tables have turned against them now.
maverick muse on August 31, 2008 at 7:34 PM
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