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posted at 10:25 pm on August 29, 2008 by Allahpundit
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“Here’s I fear the worst harm that may be done by this selection. The McCain campaign’s slogan is ‘country first.’ It’s a good slogan, and it aptly describes John McCain, one of the most self-sacrificing, gallant, and honorable men ever to seek the presidency.
But question: If it were your decision, and you were putting your country first, would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency?”
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Even her feet are perfect.
carbon_footprint on August 29, 2008 at 10:28 PM
How about I answer YES, knowing it’s not what you wanna hear?
Cardiganfox on August 29, 2008 at 10:28 PM
She’s wearing the Ruby Slippers!
Loxodonta on August 29, 2008 at 10:29 PM
The answer to the question: NO. But hey, what can you expect from a MAVERICK?!?!?!? Ugh.
The Dean on August 29, 2008 at 10:29 PM
well, when the choice is an untested small-town mayor who also has 2 years as govenor of our 49st state. Or I can put the path of this country in the hands of a race-baiting unrepentant marxist.
so, putting the country first….
HELL YES I’M HAPPY WITH PALIN ON THE TICKET.
mvargus on August 29, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Exit Answer: You bet if the alternative is to put an untested small district state senator in the top spot from day one.
JadeNYU on August 29, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Palin’s more than ‘tested.’ Frum’s jealous and working for an angle.
S on August 29, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Here’s the deal: it is impossible that all the people would have been happy with anyone that McCain chose. I, for one, am very pleased with Palin. Just think how let down would have been had he chosen Ridge.
carbon_footprint on August 29, 2008 at 10:30 PM
yes, its the total package not the one job.
trailortrash on August 29, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency? No.
Is Sarah Palin an untested small-town mayor? No.
Loxodonta on August 29, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Keeping in mind that i hate to give Huckabee credit on anything, but he was on Hannity & Colmes today and had the best arguement in favor of Palin that I have heard all day.
In essense, you gain more experience as a governor in one month of office than you can gain in one year as a Senator becuase you often have no time to debate anything, you have to make decisions at the drop of a hat.
If anyone can find a video of that, it would be cool to link it. I profess to not know where to look for stuff like that.
Pcoop on August 29, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Disappointing. Frum is off base. I’ll watch for a correction later in the weekend. She’s as qualified as Tim Kaine who was seriously considered. She’s as qualified as Barry whose running for the top job. Oh, except that she doesn’t have external genitalia. I guess that’s a big deal. Even for someone as serious and respectable as Frum.
Vote Sauron 08 on August 29, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Most of my responses to that are unsuitable a family friendly place like HA.
So: Nuts.
Rodent on August 29, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Good grief!
If you only highlight her minor roles and totally leave out that she’s been Governor and cut government waste in her short time there, then you are disingenuous.
She adds a great deal to the ticket and middle America loves her -and middle America votes!
BobH on August 29, 2008 at 10:31 PM
But, wait, Obama has OPRAH! My gosh, people!
/sarc.
I’m laughing at the mental picture of Oprah/Obama on a snowmobile running away from the caribou.
S on August 29, 2008 at 10:32 PM
I will go one step further then yes – she would make a better presidential candidate then McCain. What good is “experience” when it apparently hasn’t led him to the right conclusions? She’s certainly not perfect, but she is pretty darn good.
Rangeley on August 29, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Alaska is a small town?
SoulGlo on August 29, 2008 at 10:32 PM
As I heard someone say today: Sarah Palin got more experience with one month of being governor of Alaska than Barack Obama did in his few days as a freshman senator. After all, he began campaigning in ‘05.
carbon_footprint on August 29, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Yep. The “country-first” selection would probably have been Romney, since the #1 issue among most Americans now is the economy and drilling. Romney was supposedly the best choice with regards to the economy, plus he had governing experience.
The choosing of Palin could strike people as a “get me elected” choice above anything else (shore up GOP conservative base). In other words, people may paint it as an identity politics choice. Unfortunately, this campaign seems to be about indentity politics and maybe McCain felt he had to play the game or he would lose.
Granted, once we find out more of what Palin did in her short time as Governor of Alaska (fighting corruption, her ethics focus, etc), David Frum and others may change their mind about her.
Michael in MI on August 29, 2008 at 10:33 PM
This argument proceeds on a false assumption – that assumption being that the president, alone, makes all the decisions.
Let’s say McCain dies in office and Palin takes over. She has all of his advisers that he had, his cabinet, everything. Feeding him the same information he was getting.
But the frequent obsessing over McCain’s imminent death is a common meme these days.
lorien1973 on August 29, 2008 at 10:33 PM
No and neither would I put a community organizer as the actual presidential candidate. But Palin is now Governor of Alaska and Obama a Senator. This meme from the Democrats is ludicrous. It’s as if they refuse to acknowledge she won a gubernatorial election.
LastRick on August 29, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Ever hear of Harry Truman? A county judge that no one had ever heard of and had not managerial or executive experience.
How many people can name the VP’s? Who was Lincoln V.P.? Who were FDR’s VP’s? This selection can only help McShame but bringing the base back to the fold and creating some kind of excitement in a party that had driven the base away from them.
flytier on August 29, 2008 at 10:33 PM
No.
But I would put a former state governor up for it.
Browncoatone on August 29, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Wasilla is not that small. I’ve been there. It’s officially 9000. But it’s an Anchorage suburb, and more like 20,000 in the area. And it’s booming. All the Anchorage exflow is heading that direction.
ericdondero on August 29, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Sarah Palin is more capable and far more “tested” than Barack Obama — forget Biden as competitor where Palin is concerned, Palin runs circles in appeal and capability (and, I dare add, ethics and the ability to act on them) arond Obama.
This decision by McCain immensely improves my estimation of his candidacy. I’m now on the “enthused voter” wagon for the McCain-Palin ticket this November.
S on August 29, 2008 at 10:35 PM
I know I may get crucified here, but isn’t it more important that the candidate is experienced enough to lead than his/her abortion stance?
The Dean on August 29, 2008 at 10:35 PM
How about a small town Mayor (Governor) that has a long list of ACCOMPLISHMENTS in a very short time? Let’s see: Kerry has been in the Senate for ages…let’s see a list of his accomplishments. Let’s see, The Messiah has been in the IL Senate and US Senate…can we see a list of his accomplishments? Allah…you disappoint. Yep, Palin rocks. And, for the 1st time I sent $ to McC this afternoon.
Dingbat63 on August 29, 2008 at 10:36 PM
The “country first” pick would have been Tom Ridge. Wonder how THAT would have turned out??
rockmom on August 29, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Lovely. We’re not in Kansas anymore.
I’ve listened and read much about Palin and I think she’ll do just fine.
Afterall, she brings more cred to the table than greasy Joe.
Kini on August 29, 2008 at 10:36 PM
It’s hard not to think that we’re fighting Obama’s identity politics with our own fresh version. This weakens our argument and concedes our strength positions. McCain’s going all-in on this gamble.
Cold Steel on August 29, 2008 at 10:37 PM
David Frum asks:
“But question: If it were your decision, and you were putting your country first, would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency?”
Mr. Frum, there are two kinds of people in this world: talkers and doers. I am ever so glad Senator McCain did not choose an tested talker like you.
dtestard on August 29, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Look on the bright side: now we’ll have Mitt Romney for a Cabinet position. And Fred Thompson for the Supreme Court (had to get that one in here)!
S on August 29, 2008 at 10:37 PM
FYI, that question is not one of Allah’s famous Exit Questions. It’s actually a question from Frum’s piece.
Please don’t beat up AP over it…..if you do, he’ll punish you with humping robot vids. Of course, if you don’t, he’ll reward you with humping robot vids. It’s a win-win.
JadeNYU on August 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Lincoln’s VP: Hannibal Hamlin and Andrew Johnson.
FDR: John Nance Garner, Henry Wallace and Harry Truman.
carbon_footprint on August 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Absolutely, as a state Gov, she is in command of the AK State National Guard. This includes ground and air (Army-Air Force) assets, so looks to me she is only second to McCain when it comes to Military experience.
GaryC
GaryC on August 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Hey Frum: You country clubbers will lose control of the party – deal with it, moron. The future of the GOP is Jindal and Palin. Reagan would be happy. They, like he, are smart enough to know what they do not now and to surround themselves with good people. They do bring, like Reagan, great Conservative instincts that lean pro-life, pro-God, pro-Constitution. I knew and worked for Reagan, Mr. Frum, and you are no Ronald Reagan.
bill30097 on August 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Palin got more executive experience as a point guard on her championship high school basketball team than Obama has had in his entire life.
PS: for non-sports subscribers, point guard is analogous to quarterback in football – the point guard runs the team offense.
And the team won the state small town championship.
Barry – how about a little on-on-one with a REAL basketball player??
fred5678 on August 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Two observations;
1) Detractors keep talking about her being a mayor. She is a Governor! Get it straight!
2) Detractors keep talking about a perceived lack of experience. She is running for VICE President and has more real experience than the TOP of the ticket for the Democrats!
Star20 on August 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Well said!
S on August 29, 2008 at 10:39 PM
You can stop now Allah. You’ve really done a fantastic job of trying to burst our bubble, take the wind our of our sails and generally turn this good day for the Republicans into something doubtful. But I think most of us here still very much like Palin and consider her an excellent choice.
You’ve done your level best to throw cold water on our excitement, so it’s not your fault. But you see, she really is a good choice, so your just not going to be able to bring us down on this one.
Nice try though.
Maxx on August 29, 2008 at 10:39 PM
If a VP was only selected by the President after the election, and the criteria was to pick someone who was best qualified to step in and be C-in-C? Cheney makes sense. Palin less so.
That’s not the way it goes though, so I think she was a good choice. Maverick has to win or else we have Obama.
dedalus on August 29, 2008 at 10:39 PM
No kidding, Mitt will be more effective, economically speaking, in a cabinet position rather than being the VP.
carbon_footprint on August 29, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Might I also add:
How she looks. How she makes me feel. How out-of-the box McCain is on this pick.
Cold Steel on August 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Nope. Nor would I put an unknown street organizer turned junior Senator with absolutely NO executive experience directly in the presidency.
I would however put an experienced State governor a heartbeat away from the presidency.
But I’m just funny like that.
FiveWays on August 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Who the hell is David Frum and why should I care what he thinks? All you pundits are boring. Hell, most of you were pushing Lieberman down our throats. Either get with the program or go piss in some other party’s cornflakes. This schtick is getting old.
Blake on August 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM
I saw that too and it’s the only time I have totally agreed with Huckabee. He’s absolutely correct. The more I have seen of her in the past several hours, plus the research I have done, the more impressed I am. Time will tell, but I have a feeling this woman don’t take any s**t.
McCain/Palin!!!!
jewells45 on August 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Good Lord, now you’re using Obama’s talking points.
Lynn2008 on August 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM
another idiot heard from the media. Do these people not understand that the founding fathers wanted avg joes and janes to lead the country not a elite class of political hacks. Palin brings the best of this country into the game. She brings family vaules, hard work, freedom, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. she didn’t have a famous husband, she didn’t have a rich daddy, she didn’t have family connections, nor did she have “political connections made with bribes and shady deals”
she got where she is by hard work, sacrifice, and a sense that America is a good place and needs to have a clean governmnet.
unseen on August 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Obama’s accomplishments in the Senate:
[ [ crickets ] ]
S on August 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Yeah, speaking of memes, this one is getting old and it’s a little disturbing. This bizarre fascination from the left about McCain dying in office, what gives?
Thanks alot, William Henry Harrison!
LastRick on August 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Her correct title is GOVERNOR Palin.
ArmyAunt on August 29, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Harry Truman
johnsteele on August 29, 2008 at 10:41 PM
No crucifixion, but leadership ability is a character trait and not something that someone picks up from experience. People don’t learn to be leaders.
progressoverpeace on August 29, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Which country though? The United States of America, Mexico or Iraq? Sometimes it’s hard to tell. But maybe that’s just me.
I doubt that Palin knows that much about international maters or even all that much about national issues. She seems pretty bright though so I think that she could learn pretty fast. But in two months while so many people will be watching? And, where is she going to find that much time to do that? She will presumably have at least a relatively heavy campaign schedule. She will presumably be spending some significant time still being governor of Alaska and being a mom to her baby. If she goes back and forth from Alaska to the “lower 48″, well that is a long jaunt. She not only will have to get “up to speed” to debate Biden, but presumably will be on “Meet the Press”, etc. too. There are only 24 hours in a day the last I heard.
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Nope. A governor of the nation’s largest state that’s had 16 years of executive experience? Yes.
amerpundit on August 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Good point. However, this is actually an arguement against the importance of having Palin on the ticket. And directs people right back to knowing that McCain is still at the head of the ticket and he is the one who picks his inner circle and Cabinet and advisors. When one remembers that one of his advisors is Juan Hernandez…
Which is why I go back and wonder why people are now so energized to vote for McCain simply because Palin is his VP. Does the VP have any say over policy? Did Cheney have any say over President Bush’s policies on Amensty, Abortion, homosexual marriage? Probably not.
So I doubt that Palin’s stances on anything are going to change McCain’s stances on any policies.
However, I will say this… if some sense can be talked into McCain on the issues of global warming and the economy, I think that is the best we can hope for. Both he and Obama would push through huge Amnesty legislation. Having Palin on the ticket won’t stop that. But if she can have some influence on global warming policy, and thus not allow McCain to completely trash this economy, that would be helpful.
Michael in MI on August 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM
He’s absolutely right. It will be damaging.
Big S on August 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM
No crucifixion from me. However, I was not even implying the abortion issue with my statement. I was merely contrasting the excitement Palin garnered versus if Mav would have chosen Ridge. I like Ridge; he is a good man,, but he would have killed our chances due to his lack of ‘punch’ to the ticket.
carbon_footprint on August 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM
My thoughts exactly! But don’t forget to add “with shady connections”!
IrishGirl17 on August 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM
That is true, not to mention that even though this sort of does dull the argument that Obama is inexperienced, its almost baiting democrats into a trap. How do they attack the VP candidate for supposed inexperience, without losing their argument that Obama isn’t too inexperienced?
I think the whole “experience” argument is a diversion though, really. What matters is their political stances – what is right with no experience is right with 100 years of experience. But 100 years of experience doesn’t make a wrong position suddenly right.
Rangeley on August 29, 2008 at 10:43 PM
With each passing hour that I spend in here, I find no need to visit The Huffington Post.
Funny that.
FiveWays on August 29, 2008 at 10:43 PM
I saw one blogger(from alaska) on memeorandum dismiss it as not even a town and bible belt country…
Here’s an alaskan evangelical with her reaction and a few pics of Palin.
http://adventuresinmercy.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/palin-rocks/
ninjapirate on August 29, 2008 at 10:43 PM
No, of course not.
But I would put a self-made politician who:
- worked her way up from a small town mayor to challenge her party’s state establishment (forcing the resignation of the attorney general and the state party chairman on ethics charges
- won the governorship of her state away from an incumbent from her own party
-refused a large pork barrel project funded by Washington (the “bridge to nowhere”)
-built a 40 billion$ pipeline for natural gas (and who also understands, contra Pelosi and Obama, that it is in fact a fossil fuel)
- all the while maintaining an 80% approval rating
And did I mention that she’s stunning to look at and has 5 kids?
Mr. Frum, you sir, are a goof.
billy on August 29, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Frum is a has been. His book didn’t go anywhere. He candidate–Rudy–didn’t go anywhere. He’s still bitter that Michael Gerson was heralded as one of the best White House speechwriters ever–along with getting a nice job at the Washington Post. Frum also can’t stand that his liberal views are not being adopted by the GOP.
IR-MN on August 29, 2008 at 10:44 PM
I wonder how many times S.Palin voted “present” – oh wait I forgot, Governors (and even mayors) don’t have that privilege to hide away from the tough issues.
HawaiiLwyr on August 29, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Yep, that’s pretty much what this pick is all about: winning the election. She is not the most qualified for the VP spot. But she is the most qualified to play the identity politics game with the Democrats and try to win that game to win the election.
Michael in MI on August 29, 2008 at 10:45 PM
I for one am somewhat weary of how the Presidency is presented as some super difficult job requiring a candidate to have extremely high intelligence, an Ivy League education, must be a millionaire, a huge network of Washington insiders, stealthy political connections, and be an excellent liar.
None of that is required. In fact most of those “requirements” are actually the difference between a candidate that represents the people and is in fact of the people and a candidate that is in the pocket of special interests and hasn’t got a clue what it’s like to be an average American.
I for one would like to see more regular people taking up positions in the government. How else can we have a government of the people?
I am happy with Governor Palin. I think she would make an excellent Vice President and even a great President if she needed to be.
Guardian on August 29, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Crucified? Don’t be silly. Everyone here appreciates varied opinions, in fact all welcome them.
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Ha, I had exactly that same thought when I heard/watched that Huckabee commenting earlier today.
Today is definitely a GROUP HUG day for us Republicans. It’s great to see the divisions being overcome. I’m exceptionally pleased with Sarah Palin as V.P. and far more impressed with John McCain for the Presidency in naming Palin as V.P.
Today is a very good day.
S on August 29, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Here is the other counter to that “country first” meme:
If you believe the polls, 80% of the “country” believes the “country” is on the wrong track. Republicans can either just concede that this means Republicans have screwed up so badly that they do not deserve another four years in office, or they can fight back with a ticket that says “country first, PARTY second” and is as different as possible from the Republicans that Americans think have gotten the country on the wrong track. In this context, “country first” does not equate with “experience matters more than anything” it equates with “we put our country first, before our party, before the ’special interests’, etc.” Works for me.
Do you really think a McCain-Romney ticket would have done that? What did Mitt Romney ACCOMPLISH as governor of Massachusetts that would recommend him as a “different kind of Republican” or a government reformer? Nothing that I’m aware of. His greatest accomplishments were in the private sector and the Olympics, which are ancient history now. What has Mike Huckabee, or even Tim Pawlenty ACCOMPLISH that says “I can help restore people’s trust in government?”
Sarah Palin’s time in public office may have been short and in a small town and a small state; but she has ACCOMPLISHED real reform and beaten some of the biggest machines and special interests in America. Alaska has been a cesspoool of corruption for a generation, but in just two years Palin has cleaned it up to an extent few thought possible.
She may not seem to have “punched the right tickets” but she is obviously a LEADER.
rockmom on August 29, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Hear, hear.
progressoverpeace on August 29, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Gee- substitute the name “Obama” for “Palin” and “he” for “she”, and that statement still stands doesn’t it.
Well yes, yes it does.
FiveWays on August 29, 2008 at 10:47 PM
I agree with Frum, this was a horrible pick. I can’t tell you how disappointed I am that a McCain/Palin ticket is the best we could come up with. The problem with the GOP the last several years in mismanaging government, I don’t see these two addressing that.
Flame away.
lowandslow on August 29, 2008 at 10:47 PM
You’ve got to be effing kidding me. I hope that’s a joke because that kind of stupidity is not going to win any votes.
Big S on August 29, 2008 at 10:47 PM
What the heck is that crap? She’s a governor. Are we biased against governors from small towns?
Puleeze. Someone could hand you a diamond and you’d complain it was just coal. This is a great pick for the base. You, of all people, who constantly complain about no good politicians dissing this one is lame. You, of all people, should be excited that something other then the same-ole same-ole rose to national attention.
Spirit of 1776 on August 29, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Because Mr. Frum “DC Experience” is not the solution to the problem….DC experience is the problem, sir.
GO SARAH!
sven10077 on August 29, 2008 at 10:48 PM
If I knew David Frum, I’d drive to his house. Ring the bell. And punch him dead in the face when he answered. Go to Hell Mr. Frum. You don’t like her because she’s not a big government republican like you. She’s the real deal. An actual conservative. A regular American with the right values, the right attitude, in addition to her executive experience, experience as a small businesswoman, and life experience. And you can’t stand it. I repeat, go to Hell Mr. Frum.
D0WNT0WN on August 29, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Palin has balanced a budget.
Palin has managed the National Guard.
Palin has used her veto power.
Palin has fought, and won, against corruption ( involving R’s and D’s).
Palin has made decisions with consequences.
Palin is the CEO of a state.
She has more executive experience than McCain, Obama and Biden combined.
Prove me wrong.
carbon_footprint on August 29, 2008 at 10:49 PM
How about putting a Colonel – Chief of Staff of the Third Division at Fort Lewis in charge of all Allied forces in Europe in WWII?
That would have been crazy!
Well, that was a few years before he was named overall commander, but who’s counting?
forest on August 29, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Thank you, that’s what I wanted to say, but was overcome by fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
I find myself agreeing with many of the other comments.
Then I realized it was people like Frum that have put fear into my life to the point where I’m afraid to do anything, or say anything, for fear of being wrong. You’all know where that leads.
So, Mr. Frum, {expletive] off and die, fool. Give the lady her chance.
And no I don’t hold the same opinion of The Obama, ‘cuz that dude is messed up.
rockhauler on August 29, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Sarah Palin fought her own corrupt party members with a zeal equal to facing down her political rivals.
I’d ask if you can match that with the donks….but come now “Dollar Bill Jefferson” alone puts the lie to it.
sven10077 on August 29, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Exactly. Experience really isn’t as important as judgment. Some of the greatest were not “experienced”.
Moreover, there is no real training for the P job. The closer you get the more you can see and prepare, ie I’d rather a SecState then a Senator, but VP is pretty good experience – all the meetings, the decisions, etc.
Spirit of 1776 on August 29, 2008 at 10:50 PM
That illustrates McCain’s alter ego. Balancing the self-sacrificing with the self-serving. It’s so Maverick to ape the other side to win the election. Last time he threatened to join ‘em. What will he do if this backfires too?
Cold Steel on August 29, 2008 at 10:50 PM
That’s not the counterargument. Frum is advocating for a different VP pick for McCain.
He is questioning the pick of McCain, not your pick of McCain or Obama. He is questioning why McCain, who claims to put the country first, is putting someone less qualified than other VP choices he had as his VP nominee. The answer seems to be, because he has to play the identity politics game, because a boring, more qualified white male would not have won him the election.
Michael in MI on August 29, 2008 at 10:50 PM
FOR ALL YOU NEW PEOPLE:
Allahpundit’s “quote of the day” posts are quite frequently quotes that are absurd or otherwise disagreeable, and posted to generate discussion- or even outrage. Do not interpret the copy of Frum’s quote as an endorsement of what he said.
Hollowpoint on August 29, 2008 at 10:51 PM
No flaming from me.
I disagree with your contention that she or Mav will not address the mismanagement of government. That is the crux of the platform! She has proven that she will go after government spending in Alaska and McCain’s reputation against government spending is notorious!
carbon_footprint on August 29, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Hell Yes! In order to keep an untested small-community organizer into the presidency!!!
blink on August 29, 2008 at 10:51 PM
I know I may get crucified here, but isn’t it more important that the candidate is experienced enough to lead than his/her abortion stance?
The Dean on August 29, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Yeah, that’s why no one should want the inexperienced obama.
However, if anyone can justify late term abortions, where the body is delivered first and before the head comes out, scissors are forced up the back of the babies head and kills the child, then I think it’s relevant.
It even makes me sick to write it, let alone think about it. Then if it happens to survive this horrible procedure let’s let it lie alone in a closet until the death takes effect.
Please don’t tell me that he didn’t vote for this to happen, he did and he knew it was happening, but he was so in the tank for the pro choicers that he didn’t care. Besides, children are a punishment – remember?
Now you hold your new born in your arms and think about what can be done to a child a couple of hours before and if it doesn’t make you sick to your stomach, I have no use for you.
Bambi on August 29, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Remember the days when we picked our political leaders from among the people? Remember when we looked for someone not because they spent their entire lives swaddled in government bureaucracy? Remember when we thought that what mattered most in a President is what they did with the jobs they had?
Yeah, neither does David Frum.
Jimmie on August 29, 2008 at 10:52 PM
We as a party have the responsibility to take calculated risks and chances….
a moonbat looks at a powerful female and says, “why?”(when refusing to nominate their own qualified woman)
A true conservative looks at a woman of good judgement and morals and says “why not?”
Now which party is elitist and which represents the interest of the working man again?
sven10077 on August 29, 2008 at 10:52 PM
This reminds me of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader-Ginsberg (Ruth Bad-Girl for Michael Savage fans) giving a speech in Australia and laughing that then-speaker Tom DeLay “used to be an exterminator”. Horrors! Never a lawyer. Like Hugh Hewitt said tonight, you have team Young Lawyer/Old Lawyer vs. Team Business. Work that angle.
Marcus on August 29, 2008 at 10:52 PM
I’m going with NO. This will be the achilles heal of McCain’s campaign from here out.
Aside from that, she’s hot!
Geronimo on August 29, 2008 at 10:53 PM
I see the selection of the VP candidate as what McCain thinks the future of his party and the country might look like. Meaning, should McCain be unable to perform his duty (as the Democrats constantly fret) or after 8 years of being in office, it would then be Palin’s turn (i.e. George H.W. Bush in 1988 post-Reagan). And apparently alot of us agree with her political stance.
LastRick on August 29, 2008 at 10:53 PM
I simply don’t view immigration as the major issue most people here do. It’s an issue, but not in the top 10 for me.
Putting Palin on the ticket shows McCain is serious about winning this thing. I’ve doubted this previously. It also shows he can be serious about domestic energy production as well.
And it also shows that he has an interest in the future of the republican party. If he wins, she is the heir apparent in 2012, since he probably would not run for a second term.
lorien1973 on August 29, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Where is this magical candidate Frum had in mind?
The one that would rally even Dobson and Huck? Seriously. Identity politics? Hell yeah, this pick identifies with the base.
Spirit of 1776 on August 29, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Obama voted for the bridge to nowhere, McCain voted against, Palin killed it.
Boomshakalaka
Palin puts in the “Judge not lest you be judged” factor into this race for a lot of issues and makes Barry’s bio a lot more relevant(and they don’t like people digging in his bio without his narration).
ninjapirate on August 29, 2008 at 10:54 PM
+1
Rodent on August 29, 2008 at 10:54 PM
I am amazed at the supposedly sky high standards that are put on VP picks these days! That being said, Ms. Palin is not only fundamentally qualified, she is more than qualified for the job. I only feel remorse for Alaska since they will be losing a great leader.
carbon_footprint on August 29, 2008 at 10:54 PM
That is not the alternative. The alternative, for McCain, was to choose someone else more qualified as his running mate. That is what Frum is getting at. He’s asking, ‘if you were John McCain, putting the country first, wouldn’t you have chosen someone more qualified?’
The Exit Answer to Frum’s question is that were McCain to stand on principle and choose the best person for the job of VP, he would not have won the election. So he had to choose Palin to play the identity politics game and win the election. But, people could argue that McCain winning the election and keeping Obama out of the White House, no matter what he has to do in order to do that, is ‘putting the country first’.
Michael in MI on August 29, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Nope, not while he’s getting traffic like this.
Plus, our exuberance with Palin brings Allah to point his faith in human nature. Skepticism.
Kini on August 29, 2008 at 10:54 PM
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