Quote of the day

posted at 10:25 pm on August 29, 2008 by Allahpundit

“Here’s I fear the worst harm that may be done by this selection. The McCain campaign’s slogan is ‘country first.’ It’s a good slogan, and it aptly describes John McCain, one of the most self-sacrificing, gallant, and honorable men ever to seek the presidency.

But question: If it were your decision, and you were putting your country first, would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency?”

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“…who offers cautious, steady, predictable governance.”

CanadianGuy on August 30, 2008 at 3:52 AM

In the words of G.S. Patton, “L’audace, toujours l’audace!”

There are times when cautious, steady and predictable costs lives. George G. Meade and Burnside come to mind.

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 3:58 AM

now I hear they don’t ever do KP all contract work.

sven10077 on August 30, 2008 at 3:43 AM
Drat! I should have been born a generation later. Our KP was 24 hours then right back to training.

MB4

WTF!? This is getting worse than I thought. You can’t even punish anyone anymore! Where is the incentive to stay out of trouble? Has the Army gone soft like the AF?

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:05 AM

In the words of G.S. Patton, “L’audace, toujours l’audace!”

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 3:58 AM

Vivez! Mes amis, je suis enchantee.

BlakeneyP on August 30, 2008 at 4:07 AM

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:05 AM –

Now, now, El Guapo…the Army has changed, and individual and unit training are a bit more intense than it was back in the 60′s and 70′s. But…soft like the Air Force? I should hope not. My son, a second term Marine, told me that about half way through boot at Parris Island, the senior DI told the guys, “If you had the smarts to join the Air Force, you’d be out of basic training now and have gotten a couple stripes already, too.”

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 4:10 AM

Frum says: if I were the Obama campaign: that it’s John McCain for all his white hair who represents the risky choice, while it is Barack Obama who offers cautious, steady, predictable governance.

Now I know why Rudy lost. You were within 10 miles of his campaign.

CanadianGuy

Predictability can either cost lives or save lives in war. On a soft leader (let’s negotiate!), it will cost more lives. On a hard/blunt leader (cross me and I will destroy you!), it will cost less because that instigating nation will know that his actions will not go unpunished.

Ever wonder why all those communist and socialist and even Islamic extremist countries WANT a soft leader in the U.S.?

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:11 AM

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:11 AM –

+1 my friend. Right on target.

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 4:14 AM

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:11 AM

I read somewhere once (can’t recall) that the Kremlin really took Ronald Reagan seriously when he made the “reckless” decision to fire the striking air traffic controllers.

CanadianGuy on August 30, 2008 at 4:16 AM

Now, now, El Guapo…the Army has changed, and individual and unit training are a bit more intense than it was back in the 60’s and 70’s. But…soft like the Air Force? I should hope not. My son, a second term Marine, told me that about half way through boot at Parris Island, the senior DI told the guys, “If you had the smarts to join the Air Force, you’d be out of basic training now and have gotten a couple stripes already, too.”

coldwarrior

as someone who “crossed into the blue” i can say it is harder to make rank in the AF. but it is also impossible to “realy” punish someone for getting in trouble. there is also no extra duty, KP, pulling weeds, getting fired and moved to a crappy job because you sucked at our MOS/AFSC, etc. The military is starting to reflect civilian land (especially gov’t employment in general). It is becoming impossible to remove that bad apple or correcting his behavior.

And people wonder where America’s work ethic went!?! Thank the libs.

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:17 AM

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 4:10 AM

I remember being on an Air Force base once when in the Army, and it was like being on a college campus, however, at least back during “my time”, promotions were much faster in the Army than any of the other branches. You could even be a Captain at 21 as the age requirement for OCS was 19.

MB4 on August 30, 2008 at 4:20 AM

Ever seen the movie Office Space? That qote is so true. People will only work as hard as necessary to keep from getting fired. I’ve seen that mentality in unions and in the militry. And these same people complain about not getting promoted or stepped over.

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:21 AM

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:17 AM –

One of my toughest decisions while an NCO in garrison was to stay out of the barracks one night, knowing full well that the troops were taking care of a “problem” on their own. Had a young 2LT in an uproar over it. We kept him busy for a while then directed him back to his quarters. By first call, the problem was solved. Never had a problem with that particular troop ever again. In a matter of minutes he had learned the essence of team work.

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 4:21 AM

MB4 Long time now see.

The Army is MUCH larger than the AF. Same as the Navy. Pomotion is faster when there are larger numbers to deal with. In my AFSC, there was only 30-some selected out of 150 for E-6, for example.

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:23 AM

MB4 and El Guapo…was a different Army back then. Honestly, if I had to storm into Baghdad with my unit, with the troops and officers we had then, it’d have been a bloodbath. We were good, very good, but nothing at all compared to the present mix. I have to thank the parents of these young men and women who serve today, for the most part they raised some damn fine Americans. I was on post at Fort Riley this past spring…what I saw amazed me. These young men and women get it. They just need the national leadership to keep them keeping on.

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 4:25 AM

coldwarrior

Those stories still happen, but more often on deployments. However, those stories I learned could have been prevented had the instructors back at I.T. or AIT/Tech School had the authority to do more. But then again, they authority was probably removed from some bonehead overreacting and over-punishing someone.

Every rule in the military is the result of someone messing up or getting hurt.

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:27 AM

MB4 and El Guapo…was a different Army back then. Honestly,

if I had to storm into Baghdad with my unit, with the troops and officers we had then, it’d have been a bloodbath. We were good, very good, but nothing at all compared to the present mix. I have to thank the parents of these young men and women who serve today, for the most part they raised some damn fine Americans. I was on post at Fort Riley this past spring…what I saw amazed me. These young men and women get it. They just need the national leadership to keep them keeping on.

coldwarrior

I think the “all volunteer force” has a lot to do with that too. People who volunteered to be there are more often than not going to be better workers than someone “voluntold”.

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:29 AM

Every rule in the military is the result of someone messing up or getting hurt.

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:27 AM

I agree on that. You can’t order a soldier to be brave in the face of an enemy. But you can lead them towards bravery.

Since I got out, the Army now has a Legal Services Command and a Trial Defense Service as separate general officer commands in the Army. Have things gotten that bad, or are we out-lawyering every single point at issue?

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 4:30 AM

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 4:25 AM

I would think that a good part of the diff is that, back then, if you just picked someone in the Army at random, he would have been in for about 2 years, and now, picking a guy at random would be 4 or 5 years?

MB4 on August 30, 2008 at 4:32 AM

MB4 on August 30, 2008 at 4:32 AM –

Just look at the re-up rates for active duty soldiers. These young men and women are in it for the long haul.

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 4:33 AM

coldwarrior

Both. But we still remain as the best fighting force in the world (next to Israel – they get daily practice) despite the “kinder gentler” military mentality.

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:34 AM

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:34 AM –

The doctrinal changes are already underway. The most recent general officer promotion list reflects that as well. For the longest time it was almost verboten to tell soldiers that their mission was to close with an enemy and destroy them. Had to couch it in less agressive terms. Now, we are getting back to the basics and plain speaking within the ranks.

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 4:37 AM

One big diff “back then” in the Army was that in RVN there were almost no contractors in country, not that I ever saw anyway, now, as I understand it, there are private contractors all over the place in Iraq, doing things that the Army would have done itself before.

MB4 on August 30, 2008 at 4:38 AM

Well, we are getting close to BMNT around here…time to catch a few z’s before sunrise.

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 4:39 AM

now, as I understand it, there are private contractors all over the place in Iraq, doing things that the Army would have done itself before.

MB4

You can thank the drastic military downsizing of the 1990′s of the Clinton Admin for that, and the current one not allowing it to regrow.

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:41 AM

Well, we are getting close to BMNT around here…time to catch a few z’s before sunrise.

coldwarrior

Yes! Somewhere it is daylight. Time to sleep!

El Guapo on August 30, 2008 at 4:42 AM

Current doctrinal readjustment towards independent brigades and brigade combat teams, eliminating all but three divisions when the dust settles. More lean, more mean. A lot less tail to tooth along the way as well. Easier to build custom brigade combat teams and such rather than pulling out parts of a division and trying to reconstitute them on the fly. One of the major lessons learned from Desert Storm/Desert Shield.

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 4:44 AM

…So what happened to the Palin conversation?

I’m totally lost in this military logistics off-topic jibber-jabber.

Melchiz on August 30, 2008 at 5:50 AM

Yes Romney is more qualified than Palin:

Poptech on August 30, 2008 at 2:55 AM

Romney has a bigger resume than Palin. Palin can play ball with anyone in regard to accomplishments and trumps all player in how quickly she has moved mountains.

But that aside. Romney has an excellent resume and has been a fantastic attack dog.

He would also have brought RomneyCare (a disaster), abortion ambiguity (unfair but bad on both fronts), Morman-hate (hideously unfair, but it’s still true), months of McCain attack videos (and we can see that those have worked well for the home team. Bad advantage to lose). On top of that, independents generally hate Romney and think he’s a Ken doll and/ or used car salesman.

Romney would not have brought MA, MI, PA, or any other relevant state that is either a lost cause, would be won anyway or Palin won’t have more influence in.

Overall, yeah Romney has a better paper resume but 100x the negatives. I had been rooting for him too toward the end. In retrospect, Palin is an overall stronger choice.

Damiano on August 30, 2008 at 5:55 AM

Damiano on August 30, 2008 at 5:55 AM

I’m going to agree with you here.

I forced myself to read through the hate-filled rhetoric over at Kos, and I’m convinced that she’s a fantastic pick. They’re fumbling to set up some sort of character assassination… based on what they claim to be scrubbing on Wikipedia. They are picking her apart and brutally insulting her, with transparent bitterness. They’re even attacking the Hillarians who claim to be excited by this pick. Extra bonus for hurting the “unity” movement over on the Left.

Not only does she put tremendous pressure on the Obama people, but her appeal to mainstream America and confused Hillary voters makes it difficult to assault her without inflaming desired voters.

Melchiz on August 30, 2008 at 6:04 AM

Some deviation of this stuff needs to be in a McCain ad immediately:

- Montage of anti-small town quotes. vs. Obama and his arugula pandering

Another:

- Obama Camps small town mayor/ experience quote.
- A list of Palin accomplishments in AK on big ticket issues (conservation, energy, reform)
- McCain and Lexington Project points
- Hillary’s “a speech in 2002″ and “present vote” quotes.

Another:

Pelosi plane fiasco vs. Palin selling her plane, flying/ driving her compact car herself and dealing with conservation/ environmental issues.

Damiano on August 30, 2008 at 6:10 AM

Keeping in mind that i hate to give Huckabee credit on anything, but he was on Hannity & Colmes today and had the best arguement in favor of Palin that I have heard all day.

In essense, you gain more experience as a governor in one month of office than you can gain in one year as a Senator becuase you often have no time to debate anything, you have to make decisions at the drop of a hat.

If anyone can find a video of that, it would be cool to link it. I profess to not know where to look for stuff like that.

Click on the link found on this page to watch that video.

electric-rascal on August 30, 2008 at 6:15 AM

Melchiz on August 30, 2008 at 6:04 AM

Thanks. Yeah, it’s almost criminal how the left is bashing her. I’ve got no issue with ripping someone down politically, but to start in on her family, kids, etc.; especially on the low level they are going, is absolutely disgusting.

McCain’s camp is going to have to get a comprehensive bio out on her in a hurry, before all the BS goes completely viral and becomes the stuff of urban legend. No one will ever tell the nutroots anything, but they’ve got to stave off doubt from the non political junkies.

Plus, a comprehensive bio will help to continue the buzz. I know the big stuff will be saved for convention vids, but they need something out there before Monday.

Damiano on August 30, 2008 at 6:18 AM

Damiano on August 30, 2008 at 6:18 AM

I welcome the bashing, I really do. Bashing a charismatic woman who appeals to families, mothers, and working-class Americans will further paint Obama as an elitist and power-obsessed demagogue.

If this turns into a series of failed character assassinations, it will backfire severely. Palin is an exciting candidate and she will interest a lot of confused voters, and perhaps many apathetic Conservatives. This is a shrewd pick because Obama can only attack her on politics, but his only argument (experience) will corrode his own ticket.

Melchiz on August 30, 2008 at 6:25 AM

Quote of the Day post on a holiday weekend gets over 500 comments; wowzers! I guess the base is energized. Too many to check to see if this idea has already been posted.

OK, how many photo ops at firing ranges does Governor Palin need to host? She was mayor of a small town in Alaska, not Rhode Island.

fluffy on August 30, 2008 at 6:35 AM

In essense, you gain more experience as a governor in one month of office than you can gain in one year as a Senator becuase you often have no time to debate anything, you have to make decisions at the drop of a hat.

electric-rascal on August 30, 2008 at 6:15 AM

Perfect point, rascal.

The point of decision making has been my biggest pet peeve with Obama from the start. The President cannot pontificate. That job has one, simple purpose: to make decisions on which there are no right answers and no one else will deal with. Period. Obama outright fails to do this on any issue or question ever. Biden is just as bad and the both have a well documented record that makes this an undeniable fact.

McCain makes decisions, often that people disagree with or put him a political risk, but in nearly all cases he ends up being unequivocally correct. Palin has done the same, in a very tough atmosphere, and did it from day one. People can disagree with their positions, but that cannot deny the substance of them.

Even when Obama does come up with something resembling an opinion, it takes him multiple tries to get there. It took him 3 press conferences in a single morning to muddle his way through his Iraq non-policy. Rather than make sense of it, the media gave up. He came out soft on Russia, his camp jumped all over McCain, then within 3 days Obama started saying the same things. Saddleback, ‘present votes’, … the list keeps going.

Damiano on August 30, 2008 at 6:37 AM

Melchiz on August 30, 2008 at 6:25 AM

Excellent point. I am just a bit pessimistic about our American Idol society being able to determine fact from fiction.

Many good peoples careers have been ruined on baseless lies while scum like Edwards get away unscathed. The nutroots and lefty bloggers don’t concern me.

What does bother me is that the Obama fanclub (aka MSM) is endlessly looping these ridiculous accusations without a shred of research or perspective. Obama’s gotten an 18 month pass on experience, yet Palin has had her legitimate experience torn to ribbons within hours of the Ohio announcement.

We are in the fast and furious stages now where nonsense will stick, both due to rapidly changing news cycles and casual viewers. The Conservative base is solid and the Democrats are mostly rallied. The people that matter now are the undecideds that have somehow missed everything until now.

Damiano on August 30, 2008 at 6:48 AM

Beta!

Coronagold on August 30, 2008 at 6:53 AM

Look, I wanted Romney for this very reason, I believe him to be the smartest, best qualified and best prepared of them all to be POTUS.

But there have been novices who stepped into the position of POTUS before and did fine. If something happened to McCain his OLD and WISE advisors would still be around to ADVISE Pres. Palin.

She does not come across as a woman who makes rash and off the cuff desicions.

Elizabetty on August 30, 2008 at 7:28 AM

The NOW and NARAL women are losing their minds that the first woman VP is going to be on the Republican ticket. I hope we find that most independent woman are more interested in breaking the glass ceiling and not aborting their babies. I actually heard a woman commentator say that women are not going to vote for a woman who thinks a 12 year old who has been raped shouldn’t be able to get an abortion! They are really going to try to portray Sarah Palin as not part of the sisterhood.

ctmom on August 30, 2008 at 7:30 AM

For me, this whole deal is about content of character as determined by substantive accomplishments. Forget buzz words like “judgment”, “experience”, “hope” and “change” that have been so utterly misused and distorted in this campaign.

3 simple questions:

1. Who has the best track record of actually making decisions when they know they will be hated for them by half the country (and world), there is no ‘right’ answer and you can’t change your mind 5 minutes or 3 days later.

2. Who has been willing to admit they were wrong or facts have changed that are relevant to their position?

3. Who has actually accomplished things that matter.

These are obvious for everyone in the campaign, except Obama. I diagree with Biden, but he can at least provide answers to most of these things.

Obama flat out cannot.

1. He patently refused to take a position on anything. When he comes close, he changes shortly later when the polls change or it’s politically expedient. No matter what the excuse is, the President cannot vote ‘present’.
2. surge, Iraq funding, oil… any issue really.
3. The only thing Obama has ever done, outside or community organizing, is to run for office. You can’t even really say that he’s actually even WON an election, only ended up selected by some odd course of events. As soon as he is elected, he starts running for something else.

Damiano on August 30, 2008 at 8:04 AM

Barack Obama: Beta male
Joe Biden: Alpha male

John McCain: Alpha male
Sarah Palin: Alpha female

Interesting pack there.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2008 at 8:07 AM

Damiano on August 30, 2008 at 5:55 AM

from a non-mormon christian, I was hoping for Romney to the call..

I am liking Sarah more and more… I think she’ll do a good job. Alaska might not have a huge population but she did take on the entrenched ‘Old White Men’ network there. Can’t imagine that would have been too easy…

and whatever border issues she had with Canada and Russia..

Obama didn’t take on anything in the Chicago politics…
he went along for the ride..

One more thing to like about Sarah..

She’s never been in Ayers living room.

DaveC on August 30, 2008 at 8:18 AM

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 4:37 AM

I thought that was why GW put Petraeus in charge of the promotion board.

Don Carne on August 30, 2008 at 8:42 AM

Saying that John McCain is an alpha male is a complete joke. This guy was being taken care of by his mommy, Cindy, for most of his post-POW life. He finished almost last in the Naval Academy and blew up 2 planes by his fault. And his buddies look like Lindsay Graham. Please…

arma_virumque on August 30, 2008 at 8:44 AM

The left doesn’t like her, is attacking her waaa, waaa, waaa!

Great! I don’t want a Veep pick the left approves of we have the best possible senario here:

The dems picked a veep 1/2 of the dems don’t like, but the Republicans love,

McCain picked a woman the Dems are all screeching about but the Repubs Love.

She has sucked all the air out of the room, no coverage of the 0bamanation oration.

Look if all four of these candidates were together in one room the 0bamanation would, at this point in time, have to light his shoes on fire to drag the presstitutes away from the new girl. And when push comes to shove I predict you’ll find three senators flat on their backs

dhunter on August 30, 2008 at 8:49 AM

arma_virumque on August 30, 2008 at 8:44 AM

What’s in your kool-aid? Blew up 2 planes by his own fault? Really? Jusat decided to blow them up. Yeah.

Have known a good number of great pilots who finished in the lower 25, BTW.

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 8:51 AM

What? It doesn’t matter that she doesn’t have any experience because McCain’s advisors would tell her what to do? …um HELLO! This is the same case for Obama with Biden. McCain just destroyed his advantage on experience, Barry O’s biggest weak point. Now Obama can run on Biden backing him up.

Oh I am sure the Governor of Alaska handles border disputes with other countries… this is sad, you guys are desperately reaching.

The first Journalist VP – AHAHAHA!

Poptech on August 30, 2008 at 8:55 AM

Poptech on August 30, 2008 at 8:55 AM –

Still raging at the VP not being a summa cum laude PhD are we?

coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 8:59 AM

would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency?”

No, but I would put a Governor there and last I check that is what she was. Based on the limited amount I have read and found out about her since the announcement out of all 4 choice of President and Vice President candidates right now she would actually be my first choice of the 4.

JeffinSac on August 30, 2008 at 9:17 AM

But question: If it were your decision, and you were putting your country first, would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency?”

“If it were your decision, and you were putting your country first, would you put an untested small-town mayor with executive experience a heartbeat away from the presidency (in the number TWO spot), rather than putting an even less-experienced moron with no executive time and around 140 working days in the Senate in the number ONE spot?”

Yes.

Duh.

cgoode777 on August 30, 2008 at 9:18 AM

One more thing to like about Sarah..

She’s never been in Ayers living room.

DaveC on August 30, 2008 at 8:18 AM

Amen.

cgoode777 on August 30, 2008 at 9:29 AM

Bottom line for me, Gov. Palin was a very good choice. I’m still lukewarm on Juan. We’ll see what is said at the convention. Then I’ll decide whether or not to vote for McShamnesty.

Zorro on August 30, 2008 at 9:46 AM

This is going to be embarrassing…

Sarah Palin

Age: 44

Family:
- Husband: Todd
- 5 Children: Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper, Trig

Religion: Roman Catholic

Education:
- B.A. Journalism, University of Idaho, 1987

Professional Experience:
- First Place, Miss Wasilla Beauty Contest, 1984
- Second Place, Miss Alaska Pageant, 1984
- Sports Reporter

Political Experience:
- Former Council Member of Wasilla City Council, Alaska (pop: 6,715)
- Former Mayor of Wasilla City, Alaska (pop: 6,715) (Votes: 909)
- Governor of Alaska, 2006-present (pop: 670,053)
Total Career Political Votes: 188,125

Joe Biden:

Age: 65

Family:
- Wife: Jill
- 3 Children: Beau, Hunter, Ashley

Religion: Roman Catholic

Education:
- B.A. History/Political Science, University of Delaware, 1965
- J.D. Syracuse University College of Law, 1968

Political Experience:
- Former Council Member of New Castle County Council, Delaware, 1970-1972 (pop: 500,265)
- United States Senator of Delaware, 1973-present (pop: 853,476)
- Candidate, United States President, 2008
Total Career Political Votes: 929,170

Professional Experience:
- Attorney, Private Practice, Wilmington, Delaware, 1968-1972
- Adjunct Professor, Widener University School of Law, 1991-present

Mitt Romney:

Age: 60

Family:
- Wife: Ann
- 5 Children: Tagg, Matt, Josh, Ben, Craig

Religion: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

Education:
- B.A. Brigham Young University, 1971
- J.D. Harvard University, 1975
- M.B.A. Harvard University, 1975

Political Experience:
- Candidate, United States Senate, Massachusetts, 1994
- Governor of Massachusetts, 2003-2007 (pop: 6,437,193)
- Candidate, United States President, 2008
Total Career Political Votes: 6,839,107

Professional Experience:
- Vice President, Bain and Company, Incorporated, 1978-1984
- CEO, Bain Capital, Incorporated, 1984-1998
- CEO, Bain and Company, Incorporated, 1991-1993
- President, Salt Lake Winter Olympics Organizing Committee, 1999-2002

Poptech on August 30, 2008 at 9:47 AM

Has anyone else noticed that MSNBC’s little stunt (During the announcement of Palin, the byline in red at the bottom of the screen: “BREAKING NEWS: HOW MANY HOUSES DOES PALIN ADD TO THE TICKET??”) last night has attracted no attention at all?

I don’t even see anything about it on Newsbusters.

What gives?

cgoode777 on August 30, 2008 at 9:53 AM

Yes, McCain has taken a chance . . . in a hard fight a good leader must do that. It probably won’t satisfy all of the hand wringers but I think it was an excellent decision.

rplat on August 30, 2008 at 10:00 AM

But question: If it were your decision, and you were putting your country first, would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency?”

If I wanted to:
change the politics as usual,
break up the good old boy network of politicians who forever feed at the public tit and only seek to serve themselves,
take the country back from elitist insiders who have 0 experience in real life who have never had real jobs, real lives, real responsibilities and
give the country back to Americans, citzens who go to work each day and make a real living/life, citizens who make this great country work
I would put Sarah at the top of the ticket , fire every politician with over 8 years and hire a thousand more like her.

Short answer: YES!

dhunter on August 30, 2008 at 10:02 AM

If it were your decision, and you were putting your country first, would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency?”

Not unless the only alternative to an untested small-town mayor was an untested Chicago community activist.

petefrt on August 30, 2008 at 10:02 AM

Community Organizer/140ish working days as Senator for PRESIDENT or State Governor(who actually has to lead, balance a state budget and make snap decisions ona daily basis)as VP…whom would you pick??? Whoops, I am dumb, he has a great speech he delivered in Berlin for his foreign affairs experience…….

Static21 on August 30, 2008 at 10:47 AM

Greatness comes from all corners of our country, not just the more traveled. Alvin York was born in a log cabin in Pall Mall Tennessee and never traveled more than 50 miles from his home until called to war. Harry Truman was a basic Missouri boy that worked on his grandfather’s farm. Audie Murphy was the son of Texas sharecroppers, only 5’5″ tall and went on to earn 33 medals in World War II. And there’s a guy by the name of Ronald Reagan who’s formative years were spent in Dixon Illinois.

The fact is that America is a country where greatness abounds everywhere. In a free society as ours where “anyone can be President” a person can rise “above his station” because no station exists. Time and again from towns and villages great people arise and do great things.

It’s a modern concept that’s come across over the last 30 years that says you have to be in the right group, come from the right place, and know the right people in order to be a success.

Bull.

All Sarah Palin has to be is an American. And she’s that; All-American wool, and 100 yards wide.

itsspideyman on August 30, 2008 at 11:16 AM

The Exit Answer to Frum’s question is that were McCain to stand on principle and choose the best person for the job of VP, he would not have won the election. So he had to choose Palin to play the identity politics game and win the election. But, people could argue that McCain winning the election and keeping Obama out of the White House, no matter what he has to do in order to do that, is ‘putting the country first’.

Michael in MI on August 29, 2008 at 10:54 PM

Identity politics most certainly entered into the equation. It is easily pointed out at a glance that Sarah Palin is more of a lady than Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton. When you factor in her upbringing and accomplishments, she is also more of a man than Obama or Biden.

MoCoM on August 30, 2008 at 11:33 AM

When you factor in her upbringing and accomplishments, she is also more of a man than Obama or Biden.
MoCoM on August 30, 2008 at 11:33 AM

To be more clear; Sarah Palin proves to be more of a man than Barack Obama or Joe Buden.

MoCoM on August 30, 2008 at 11:35 AM

Anyone with cool red pumps like that has got to be right for the job. She rocks.

Amy Proctor on August 30, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Anyone with cool red pumps like that has got to be right for the job. She rocks.

Hell, anyone that hunts big game in AK with large bore rifles gets my vote. I think she’d do just fine in protecting America…

Wyznowski on August 30, 2008 at 11:56 AM

3 things…

Governing a state that borders another country doesnt count as foreign policy experience.

Governing a state with no urban center and a population of only 600,000 (thats less that westchester county NY) doesnt count as executive experience (unless you think county exec andy spano is ready to lead of course).

Running a budget smaller than the City University of New York’s doesnt make you a reformer.

Does she even have a world view? Hows she feel about Israel, Iraq, Russia, China, Social Security, the bank meltdown…etc, etc.

John McCain has stated positions on these matters, and so do Barack Obama and Joe Biden (whether you agree with them or not)

Im sorry, but she’s worse than Dan Quayle. As a matter of fact…

I know Dan Quayle, Dan Quayle is a friend of mine, and governor…YOU ARE NO DAN QUAYLE

ernesto on August 30, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Giving a speech in germany does not a world view make…how many budgets has Obama/Biden and even McCain for that matter, had to balance?? What governing of ANY kind has the Democrat ticket combined, done? Point is…she will surprise everyone…

Static21 on August 30, 2008 at 12:20 PM

I read somewhere once (can’t recall) that the Kremlin really took Ronald Reagan seriously when he made the “reckless” decision to fire the striking air traffic controllers.
CanadianGuy on August 30, 2008 at 4:16 AM

Uncertainty is the essence of deterrence.

Dennis Miller said, back when the tea-totaling Democrats were attacking Bush because he kicked alcohal 20 years earlier: “I don’t care if it’s true or not. We need to start spreading the rumor that Bush is back on the sauce – give Al Qaida one more thing to worry about late at night!”

logis on August 30, 2008 at 12:27 PM

Harry Truman was a basic Missouri boy that worked on his grandfather’s farm.
It’s a modern concept that’s come across over the last 30 years that says you have to be in the right group, come from the right place, and know the right people in order to be a success.

Bull.

All Sarah Palin has to be is an American. And she’s that; All-American wool, and 100 yards wide.

itsspideyman on August 30, 2008 at 11:16 AM

Yes, she is. And I am THRILLED to have her on the ticket. As for her being “a heartbeat away from the Presidency”…yeah, so? Harry Truman was a heartbeat away from the Presidency, too – and hadn’t been briefed on the development of the atomic bomb, or the state of our relationship with the Soviet Union – when FDR passed away. And then, all of FDR’s problems, and projects, and policies, became his to deal with. Which he did. Because that’s what he had been elected to do. His job.
Truman was a haberdasher – and his business went bankrupt. His home in Independence, MO, is lovely…but if you blink, you’ll miss it. A modest, honorable man.
And Sarah Palin is a modest, honorable woman, fully capable of leading a PTO, or a town, or a state, or this nation.
Allahpundit, get over it..it’s Palin.

uncivilized on August 30, 2008 at 12:36 PM

Anyone with cool red pumps like that has got to be right for the job. She rocks.

Amy Proctor on August 30, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Get some!

h/t Fausta

RushBaby on August 30, 2008 at 1:28 PM

Anyone with cool red pumps like that has got to be right for the job. She rocks.

Amy Proctor on August 30, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Get some!

h/t Fausta

RushBaby on August 30, 2008 at 1:28 PM

Thanks…gotta get me a pair of those shoes…I LOVE ‘em!!

uncivilized on August 30, 2008 at 1:54 PM

“If it were your decision, and you were putting your country first, would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency?”
Boy, those talking points sound like they’re from the DNC…
To answer the (wrong) question: YES. Yes, because she’s more than that; she’s a governor, she’s a woman who went after the good ol’ boys in the oil industry and the corrupt Alaskan elected officials who aided and abetted them, to champion the People of Alaska, AND SHE WON. She walks the talk on this issue and on energy…and she wears cool shoes to walk the talk. No matter how you slice it, she still have more executive expience than Obamabi. So, what’s the real beef?

Christine on August 30, 2008 at 2:04 PM

‘fess up or forever be misunderstood.

Christine on August 30, 2008 at 2:05 PM

Crazy….She has more experience leading a government than all the 3 others at the top of the ticket….. I would vote for a Palin/McCain ticket with more gusto than the McCain/Palin ticket that I am now proud to vote for.

Here’s hoping that McCain decides to serve only one term so it’s Palin/Jindal in ’12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

azcop on August 30, 2008 at 2:08 PM

azcop on August 30, 2008 at 2:08 PM

wouldn’t dat be da bomb?

do the kids still say that?

you just named the ticket that has hilldog crying in her gin.

she thought she could kill off obiden from the shadows, but now mccain has cut her off at the pass.

great pick for vp on so many levels.

TheCulturalist on August 30, 2008 at 2:19 PM

Palin’s going to mop the floor with Uncle Joe.

Oh, and as for the “small town mayor” thing… well, if we are going to adopt the practice of referring to candidates by their previous jobs:
– John McCain, warrior
– Barack Obama, race hustler
– Joe Biden, town councilor

drunyan8315 on August 30, 2008 at 4:32 PM

My Palin video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quvBbcFDPI0

D0WNT0WN on August 31, 2008 at 2:41 AM

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