Pessimistic blogger feeling pessimistic about pick
posted at 3:37 pm on August 29, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Ponnuru, Halperin, and Jonah Goldberg have fleshed out most of the negatives so read them first, paying particular attention to Goldberg’s point about Palin’s parochialism. The Dan Quayle narrative is already circling overhead in search of a gaffe to alight on, which is why, fairly or not, Obama’s lack of experience isn’t as damaging as hers. Whatever you think of Barry O, he’s got intelligence to spare to handle the job; a voter worried that Obama doesn’t know what he’s in for can console himself with the fact that he’ll be a quick study. That may be true of Palin too but she doesn’t have much time to show it, which is why every last mistake on the trail will be magnified to “prove” that she’s a hick who’s out of her depth. She’ll have to be letter perfect, especially in the debate with Biden, to convince independents she’s up to it. If she isn’t, I think McCain’s support in the center will collapse as people worry, as I did with Pawlenty and now with Palin herself, that we’re handing the keys to the kingdom to a totally unknown quantity who’s one 72-year-old heartbeat away from being commander-in-chief. Think she can be perfect for 67 days? Can anyone?
The good news is that everyone to the right of the nutroots will be rooting for her to do well, so personally appealing and comparatively guileless is she. That’ll buy her some leeway, as will the fact that Team Barry has to tread lightly when attacking a small-town girl in the year of PUMAs and Bittergate. But the Obama camp doesn’t have to do the attacking; the media, scrambling for a prefab storyline, will supply the clueless yokel ammunition for them. Check out CNN’s post from a few minutes ago picking up on that veep clip I just wrote about. Quote:
“As for that V.P. talk all the time,” she told CNBC’s Larry Kudlow in late July, “I tell ya, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me: What is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?”
Are McCain’s and Obama’s interviews usually transcribed phonetically like that, with “ya” in place of “you”? The meme’s already aloft, you see. I’m not sold on the idea that she’s going to attract women voters either, especially Hillary types. One of the subtler virtues of the hick meme is that even if it doesn’t convince voters she’s dumb, it might at least convince PUMAs that she’s not “our kind” of woman. The left is exceptionally good at authenticity games, and the better Palin does on the trail, the more fervently they’re going to push the idea that she’s a traitor to her gender whom no “real” feminist would ever support. My boss gets that from them 24/7. Here’s Susan Estrich, taking a tiny step in that direction by making the otherwise pedestrian point that Hillary and Palin aren’t political twins:
She paid her dues. She walked through fire. She survived. It’s hard to give that up, not only hard for her to give up the dream but also hard for the rest of us.
What does any of that have to do with Sarah Palin?
Only Her Majesty, forged in the furnace of overweening privilege, deserves real respect. That point’s metastasizing already, in fact, into an argument that picking Palin actually proves McCain’s contempt for women voters insofar as it shows he thinks they’re automatons who’ll vote on the basis of gender and nothing more. That’s pure garbage — the near-hysterical enthusiasm on the right today proves her appeal goes deeper than her sex — but I’m positively aching at the thought of our nuanced left affecting high dudgeon for the next two months over, of all things, identity politics. You turds invented this game. Don’t cry because you’re suddenly getting beat at it. When Hillary stops making “plantation” references to the GOP on MLK Day, Palin will stop pitching herself to women voters, how’s that?
So there’s the pessimism. Now the praise: Not only is this the most galvanizing pick Maverick could have made, but the thought of watching progressives tie themselves in knots over the next two months trying to square the inevitable attacks on the “bimbo” beauty queen with poor, poor Hillary’s sexist treatment by the media is worth it even if we lose. Imagine the sort of crap that’ll be airing against her on MSNBC come mid-October. I haven’t cut a check for a candidate since 2004, but I’m suddenly inspired. Here’s the link.
Update: One other thing. I don’t think Palin’s going to make the play for the center; I think she’s going to anchor the base, which is suddenly in love, so that Maverick can go be his old mavericky self with independents. Short of reversing himself on abortion, there’s not much he could do at this point to make conservatives stay home.
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Naahhh… it’s my considered opinion that the Honorable Senator Sir Herr Dr Professor Captain John McCain…oh my, how do you spell landslaide???
Have a little belief. Cheer up, people.
Fortunata on August 29, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Contrary to most of what I’ve heard- I don’t think McCain did this to win female votes. Thats just an added bonus. He did this becuase now people like Dobson and Glen Beck are saying they’ll likely get behind the ticket. She’s going to serve multiple purposes where Romney or Pawlenty would have only served maybe one.
eski502 on August 29, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Who thinks so? Seriously. I’d like to see that person. Your kid gets an admission from Harvard and University of Idaho. Who on this board will not choose Harvard and will not call all relatives to brag about it?
freevillage on August 30, 2008 at 12:11 AM
To me, that’s a feather in McCain’s cap. What does Levin (no big McCain fan) call Savage? Wiener Nation? Right.
baldilocks on August 30, 2008 at 12:11 AM
And it was the final straw for me, proving what I have always thought: Michael Savage is an actor. No one can be that stupid.
Happy Birthday Baldilocks. Happy day.
carbon_footprint on August 30, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Who thinks so? Seriously. I’d like to see that person. Your kid gets an admission from Harvard and University of Idaho. Who on this board will not choose Harvard and will not call all relatives to brag about it?
freevillage on August 30, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Well, Barry got into Harvard with a B average.
How’d he do that, one wonders…
TexasJew on August 30, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Johnny,mwaah mwaah, you’re the swingiest, mwaah mwaah, knowaddaImean, mwaah mwaah, dude we’re pwned, mwaah mwaah.
When are y’all going to acknowledge that maybe, just maybe, The Repubs have a team that want to WIN and are are doing everything right?? Don’t give yer pussy-assed “so far” either!!!
Fortunata on August 30, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Hmmm, affirmative action?
carbon_footprint on August 30, 2008 at 12:17 AM
Savage became a parody of himself years ago. And even before that he was a detriment to the conservative movement.
He is Keith Olbermann with maybe five more IQ points.
LegendHasIt on August 30, 2008 at 12:17 AM
Gambling is a risk and is risky. And it isn’t very often worthwhile, just entertaining.
eanax on August 30, 2008 at 12:18 AM
My response might have been more relevent five hours ago, but I’ve been away. The Columbia and Harvard resume stars are meaningless to me. If you don’t know the impact of affirmative action on college admissions, then nothing I say will ring true to you.
But elite schools have two primary priorities, in my understanding: 1) minorities, 2) from a geographical diverse spread. So, Obama, coming from a rich-kid prep school in Hawaii, and being black, hit every bell and whistle possible.
He graduates from Columbia, and he is instantly a top prospect for Harvard Law. Where else are they going to get a black guy from?
I am much more impressed by his utter lack of achievement since leaving these elite schools. He has done nothing everywhere he went, continuing to demonstrate one skill – impressing white liberals by talking about himself.
Yes, I think he’s
an idiotan unimpressive intellect and a pathological liar.Jaibones on August 30, 2008 at 12:19 AM
He was president of the Harvard Law Review…that ain’t affirmative action.
I am no fan of Obama, but his academic credentials are for real.
right2bright on August 30, 2008 at 12:25 AM
Then again, he has similar feelings about the Emancipation Proclamation.
I’ve liked Palin for a while (in more ways than one!), and pretty much everything I know about her has come from Hot Air. I think she’s a good pick, her speech today impressed me, and I’ve enjoyed watching the Democrats bumble into each other trying to come up with a response to her. But it’s still two months until the election. Celebrate if you want, but don’t blame AP for being wary until Election Day.
Jim Treacher on August 30, 2008 at 12:27 AM
Savage still scores some points with borders aggression and Congressional watchdogging, but I grew tired of his personality after about a year. I still listen sometimes but I dread the 5:00 bell which means the end of Medved. Savage strikes me as the type of guy who is overly demanding of personal assistants and would send back food for minor reasons. I also think that he talks about himself too much (though if he still has high listener numbers maybe he should keep that up) and may be a latent homosexual.
MarcusBrody on August 30, 2008 at 12:27 AM
Many factors play into it. Minority, single mom, extra-curricular activities.
A member of our class, B student average, got a 4 year full ride to Cal-Tech in Pasadena. The MIT of the west coast.
They don’t always take just the A students, but the students that will help “round out” the student body.
right2bright on August 30, 2008 at 12:29 AM
I very much agree.
In fact, I imagine that if you were to add BOTH of the current Presidential candidates intellects together:
IQ
+competence in the real world (outside of politics)
/ and divided by two,
they would not, together, equal ONE average HotAir commentator.
LegendHasIt on August 30, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Actually, it was. From the New York Times (February 1990) First Black Elected to Head Harvard’s Law Review
progressoverpeace on August 30, 2008 at 12:32 AM
WOW! Great find. Great post.
Thank you very much.
LegendHasIt on August 30, 2008 at 12:35 AM
eanax:
Life is a gamble.
Terrye on August 30, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Accepted. However, what about his MCL status at graduation? Are those given based on race, too?
MadisonConservative on August 30, 2008 at 12:39 AM
I happened onto this gem a little while back, while looking for some evidence for this exact AA argument in a thread on PowerLine. It’s a doozy.
progressoverpeace on August 30, 2008 at 12:40 AM
I don’t know. But Harvard changed its whole grading system around the same time, which allowed for professors to grade more subjectively than most. I forget the specifics, now.
Personally, I’d like to see his SATs and LSATs more than his grades. If he had good scores, or even half-decent, I’m sure they would have leaked out somewhere by now.
progressoverpeace on August 30, 2008 at 12:45 AM
There’s a lot about Obama’s early law days I’d like to see. Was he ever asked to clerk for the USSC or any particular USSC judge? Which law firms interviewed him or offered him positions? Was heading for Chicago to be a community organizer his first choice, or the only remaining choice?
There is just too much of his biography that seems to be missing.
coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 12:48 AM
I got accepted by every university to which I applied, and was actively recruited by the Ivy League. I chose to attend a Texas state school. I was admitted to every graduate school to which I applied, and was actively recruited by the Ivy League. I attended grad school in Texas.
Didn’t hurt my career choices any.
Some people do reject the Ivy League.
texette on August 30, 2008 at 12:50 AM
Same here. Also, some commenter mentioned a B average for Obama at Columbia. That’s nothing to sneeze at. I believe at Yale, Bush had Cs and Kerry had Ds.
MadisonConservative on August 30, 2008 at 12:55 AM
I wish I could post more anonymously… I don’t want to offend anyone but I have personal knowledge of at least one Ivy League Law Review with very affirmative action type of rules… Let’s just say that in the case I am very familiar with the person who did the real work was not the Editor. Now that was just one situation but it was around the same time… different school…
petunia on August 30, 2008 at 12:56 AM
A C in the 60’s was an A in Obama’s time.
texette on August 30, 2008 at 12:57 AM
So do some Supreme Courts, as in the Solomon ruling (military recruiters on law school campuses), which was one of the dumbest cases I have ever heard of – pure Ivy League work, and right from the top.
progressoverpeace on August 30, 2008 at 1:00 AM
I wouldn’t vote Obama for dog catcher if he was as smart as Ben Stein and Charles Krauthammer put together. It’s his lefty/commie ideology that makes him Nobama for me.
JustTruth101 on August 30, 2008 at 1:01 AM
You were smart. We (husband and I) were dazzeled by the Ivys. Chose one and it was an amazing experience. But we were left with the golden handcuffs and had to take the highest paying job to pay the loans… and ended up living much further from our families than we ever intended.
How was Obama able to afford to be a community organizer anyway? They probably did live fairly tight if they had loans like we did.
petunia on August 30, 2008 at 1:03 AM
Fully agreed.
By the way, slightly OT: Whatever happened to good ol’ Zell? Did he get into a duel and lose?
MadisonConservative on August 30, 2008 at 1:03 AM
A B average at an Ivy is pretty bad. The curve was generally set around a B-, if not a B. That’s not any official setting, but just what most classes worked out to. The Ivies are notorious for their grade inflation.
Those grades were just pathetic. I was amazed when it turned out that Kerry was even worse than Bush. Bush must have laughed louder than anyone.
progressoverpeace on August 30, 2008 at 1:06 AM
Not sure about that. But it would probably be a good way for him to go if he was dueling the Goracle and it was a “draw.”
fiatboomer on August 30, 2008 at 1:14 AM
You nailed it. His grades as a Biden-esque ‘clean & articulate’ non-honky would have been “AA”s: automatic A s unless he intentionally alientated a tenured professor
As for his Easy Slide into ‘community organizer’, White Folks need to understand the code being used here:
community organizer = connected to corrupt politicians as a Paid Lackey: paid very well to smooth out any wrinkles, including acting as a bagman
Rezko was an added bonus that Obama earned by years in Flunkydom
Janos Hunyadi on August 30, 2008 at 1:18 AM
Just got in from work. Great post Allah, you keep us looking over our shoulders at all the crap we miss. Win or lose with Palin I believe it was a bold move. The Barry Bus needed a tire change anyway.
Limerick on August 30, 2008 at 1:37 AM
According to what I have read, Obama’s books paid off his and Michelle’s student loans.
Glynn on August 30, 2008 at 1:42 AM
i just want to know how he afforded the blow!
battleoflepanto1571 on August 30, 2008 at 1:54 AM
Big A,
Always finding the down side. I seem to remember you were wuite convinced we were kaputt in Iraqi too – despite my chiding you to the contrary…
c’mon little soldier, turn that frown upside down!
major john on August 30, 2008 at 2:04 AM
I had forgotten about Palin, although I had liked what I had seen.
When I saw McC announce his pick today, I thought it was a great choice.
The more I think about it, the better I like it.
I would have been happy with Romney, but I can see why he went with Palin.
Barry is toast.
TheCulturalist on August 30, 2008 at 2:12 AM
Anyone thinking clearly could always see the Iraqis would kick us out of Iraq, Maj.
The idea was to leave on our terms, not as unwelcome house guests.
alphie on August 30, 2008 at 2:17 AM
He doesn’t even know her.
That’s the thing that gets me.
And he made her VP nominee? Wow.
e-pirate on August 30, 2008 at 2:44 AM
I am THRILLED with this choice. I was going to vote AGAINST Nobama, and just hope like heck McCain didn’t open border our country to death. Now I am excited about this ticket and look forward to Sarah kicking some ass out there on the campaign trail.
I HATE the hypocrisy of the lefties slamming her experience when she has run a state that has important natural resources for our country. What has nobama done? NOTHING. He has RUN NOTHING, MANAGED NOTHING, just NOTHING.
I am even going to CONTRIBUTE to this campaign. YEEHAW
karenhasfreedom on August 30, 2008 at 2:54 AM
Anyone who thinks a woman gains votes is deluding themselves and has spent too much time listening to “diversity” lectures at work.
John McCain is going to lose this election and he will probably lose it by a landslide. The polls will probably be close right up until election day. But he’s going to lose, and he’s going to lose big.
Why? Because most women won’t vote for a woman. They may say they will. They may actually believe they will. But when it comes right down to it they won’t. Women do not support other women beyond the superficial.
Anyone who has ever worked with or for women knows that.
Jaynie59 on August 30, 2008 at 3:10 AM
Which is why no woman has ever been elected to public office. Wait, what?
Jim Treacher on August 30, 2008 at 3:21 AM
Jaynie, I’m going to vote for her. I sent $100 to the campaign today. I went from being an unenthusiastic McCain supporter to being an enthusiastic McCain/Palin supporter overnight.
I fervently wish she were older and more experienced — but I think she has the right stuff, which I think will count for more in the end. As has been pointed out in other threads, there are many more “experienced” warm bodies who have taken up space in Congress for 20 or 30 years and not accomplished very much at all.
Mary in LA on August 30, 2008 at 3:23 AM
You are confused.
Conservative women, like conservative men, don’t vote based on race or sex. The Dem’s have spent decades trying to convince the country that “diversity” is to be cherished.
That is like trying to claim that a broken window is better than an unbroken one.
I’m not voting against the Obama/Biden ticket because Obama is black anymore than I’m voting for the McCain/Palin ticket because there is a woman on it.
It has to do with character, experience and their platforms.
What percentage of the 18 million votes HillDog received were women? By your “logic” it would have been 0.
My wife will be voting along side me and last time I checked, she’s all woman.
TheCulturalist on August 30, 2008 at 3:27 AM
Indeed.
I was livid the day after Super Tuesday, and now I’ve got McCain/Palin ‘08 stickers on my online avatars. I’ll probably cut him another donation also.
Not naive enough to think he’s changed on the border, but this is still exciting. And the alternative is still far worse.
Hawkins1701 on August 30, 2008 at 3:27 AM
The voting boothes are open November 4. You’re welcome to voter for Obama, the unaccomplished affirmative action candidate.
Krauthammer had a great article yesterday, which noted that during the entire DNCC NO ONE ever lauded the character of Obama. Telling.
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=MjhkNmQ5ZjBjYzQ3MGE5ZWRmYmY5NGYwZjRmZTM3NDk=
Two money paragraphs:
I am all in on McCain-Palin.
BuckeyeSam on August 30, 2008 at 3:28 AM
Great hay has been made of Hillary voters. All 18 million were not women, and all 18 million of them cannot be obsessed with being pro-choice.
Palin is a nightmare for Obama-Biden because she’s more man than the two of those clowns put together. Blue color men who have been balking at Obama can now sign on to the woman who’s married to the union guy.
Face it. McCain crushes these idiots on foreign policy. And she appeals to Hillary voters who are men, probably some of her women, and probably many of the undecideds. And Obama’s left with redistributing wealth and setting up a program to require volunteer time of middle schoolers and high schoolers–and to monitor it at the federal level. Sorry, but families and communities volunteer just fine on their own without a federal program.
BTW. Nice first shot out of the box by Obama’s campaign. Dump on the newly announced running mate. Tell small-town America to go to hell. I love it.
Who’s out of touch?
BuckeyeSam on August 30, 2008 at 3:39 AM
Here is a nice pic of McCain and Palin at today’s event:
pseudonominus on August 30, 2008 at 3:49 AM
pseudonominus on August 30, 2008 at 3:50 AM
okay
pseudonominus on August 30, 2008 at 3:51 AM
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/USPx4/Mccain_and_palin.jpg
pseudonominus on August 30, 2008 at 3:51 AM
Actually, Palin referenced herself as a mom, “a hockey mom”.
And Michelle introduces Obama as “my babies’ daddy” in formal public addresses.
Between Palin and Obama, the bumpkin with the rube chip on the shoulder announced more than once that it took her husband’s POTUS nomination to feel that “For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country.”
maverick muse on August 30, 2008 at 4:33 AM
Haven’t seen anyone note this close alliteration before:
Barracuda versus Barack.
McCain, you magnificent bastard!
fred5678 on August 30, 2008 at 4:40 AM
1. Of the 25% former Hillary supporters previously stating they would rather vote McCain than Obama, as many would have as not before the Palin announcement.
2. The fact is that McCain endorses women’s rights, specifically, the choice to carry a child full term even when doctors offer to terminate its life on pretext of providing “convenience and comfort”. The fact is that McCain would never discriminate against needy babies such as his own adopted daughter or Down syndrome children.
3. Palin, the strong, intelligent politician is no slouch fulfilling the accomplishment forum that women voters support. Of Hillary’s quarter vote willing to support McCain rather than Obama, Palin cinches the deal hands down.
maverick muse on August 30, 2008 at 4:49 AM
Every time, save one when he was actually quite good I thought, when I have turned Levin on I have had to turn him off as he was screeching like an hysterical girl.
MB4 on August 30, 2008 at 4:53 AM
The only pessimism I have is to what lengths the MSM will go through to derail the Palin family.
Rush is right…expect attacks on Sarah/Family on the same level as a Clarence Thomas hearing.
F15Mech on August 30, 2008 at 5:04 AM
And he is very likely right.
What I, for the life of me, can not understand is why McCain threw such a Hail Mary pass when he had closed to basically even with Obama in the polls.
MB4 on August 30, 2008 at 5:12 AM
Savage is and always has been a douchebag. He’s the Al Franken of the Republican party. Weiner Nation is an apro pos name for his show. I’m embarassed by him, and am so glad he has this opinion, for he is in the minority on this point.
MsUnderestimated on August 30, 2008 at 5:20 AM
I agree with fred5678….”McCain, you magnificent bastard!” Now let’s hoep that Rove is a major player behind the scenes of the GOP campaign.
MsUnderestimated on August 30, 2008 at 5:23 AM
I dunno.
I listen to Savage and I feel like I am listening to a man and an eclectic one at that.
I listen to Levin and I fell like I am listening to an hysterical screeching girl.
I listen to Hasnnity and all I hear is, “Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama” and “You’re a Great American”, “You’re a Great American”, “You’re a Great American”, “You’re a Great American”, “Ruth Chris Steakhouse”, “Ruth Chris Steakhouse” “Ruth Chris Steakhouse”.
I listen to Rush Limbaugh and I feel like I am listening to a bloated bag of wind.
MB4 on August 30, 2008 at 5:28 AM
Who should he have picked?
Jim Treacher on August 30, 2008 at 5:39 AM
Maybe this has been said before, but don’t the pessimists know enough to know the McCain campaign (Rove) has thought the negatives through? They planned Hussein’s race card-playing perfectly, giving him enough rope to hang himself (no apology for the metaphor). They let him go on his celebrity tours and express his ego, then nailed him on it. There is some thinking going on there, or else we’d have Lieberman.
I’d much rather have seen Pawlenty, though there were arguments against him. The point about women not voting for women is good, but at worst, it will turn away few. The media will not hold the Left to account for sexism as they will the Right, but the people will see the this. In fact, it could serve as a way to point up MSM bias in a way hitting home to females.
Just a few thoughts.
There are certainly issues in this choice
Tommygun on August 30, 2008 at 5:41 AM
I hope the McCain team puts a lot of effort in preparing her for the Convention and the VP debate. With the right strategy, she could be far more significant to the race than any VP pick in recent history.
Melchiz on August 30, 2008 at 5:49 AM
For an “unknown” darkhorse, Sarah Palin sure evoked a speedy response from Barry and Friends. It took about 4 milliseconds to initiate a wave of condescending slap downs reminiscent of the abusive flak fired at President Reagan.
Her enemies had no trouble identifying Palin with Life, Common Sense, American Exceptionalism and Limited Government. This leftist fear and loathing inspires me.
Palin will demonstrate during the next 2 weeks McCain’s confidence in her. This was an exceptional VP selection.
T J Green on August 30, 2008 at 5:56 AM
I should add:
I donated a significant amount to the McCain campaign earlier. I’m a recent (May!) college graduate without many funds, so that means a lot.
As a younger voter and a center-right Republican with strong Catholic values, Palin excites me on issues and character. She’s everything that people my age see in Obama, except that she possesses integrity and her passion is genuine. While I was relatively apathetic prior to this announcement (how many Connecticut Republicans really think their vote matters?), I am thrilled with the direction of the McCain campaign and hope to contribute in any way possible.
Melchiz on August 30, 2008 at 5:59 AM
McCain picked up $3 million yesterday. I realize he’s going on public finance, but supporters are going crazy. She’s the change agent, not Obama. Obama’s nothing more than a yes-man who crawled out of the Chicagoland area.
Whatever experience Obama has, it’s useless. And Obama, the DNC’s #1 guy has no history of accomplishing anything he set out to do. Palin, the GOP’s #2 guy, has actually accomplished things in fighting corruption and dealing with big stakes energy.
I am all in on McCain-Palin. They are Dyn-O-mite. And Obama fricking knows it. Who wants big government when you can have self-sufficiency?
Obama still hasn’t taken a position on reparations.
BuckeyeSam on August 30, 2008 at 6:05 AM
On the experience aspect, it’s possible the campaign believes it has made its point sufficiently. People know Hussein is inexperienced, and yet at the top of the ticket. They are LEADING with inexperience, and pounding that helped bring him down and McCain up.
This pick will not change too much of that among the already-decideds, and yet offers newness and freshness while firing up the base.
Tommygun on August 30, 2008 at 6:26 AM
Holy Mother of God, she sure does have better legs than Joe Bidden
MB4 on August 30, 2008 at 6:32 AM
Now someone tell me again that the PUMA’s, most of whom look like Helen Thomas compared to her, are going to vote for McCain.
lol.
MB4 on August 30, 2008 at 6:51 AM
Just bumping the tally to 667, cause, y’ know.
Coronagold on August 30, 2008 at 7:04 AM
He met her once, talked to her, and then made her next in line for the Presidency when she doesn’t know anything about national policy and the only thing she can really hang her cap on is fighting against the bridge to nowhere (which turned out not to be true).
In all seriousness I do not think this pick is good for John McCain at all. With media scrutiny and opposition attacks this choice will backfire. It has essentially given the election to Barack Obama if it wasn’t his already.
Nonfactor on August 30, 2008 at 7:09 AM
I think the female VP choice is brilliant and will help provide a win for the R party.
tx2654 on August 30, 2008 at 7:12 AM
YES!!
The answer is not to be “pessimistic”, but rather to work harder. There are ups and downs to the pick. They were weighed, and this was the decision. If you want Hussein to lose, then you use what you have. Thank you for reading.
Tommygun on August 30, 2008 at 8:05 AM
Parochial=American
Those nimrods at the NR are becoming increasingly elitist and snobbish. I fall out of my chair laughing everytime I hear the Alabama boy york speaking with a feigned new england country club accent. He’s trying to morph into Bill Buckley without the intelligence. Palin is the pick, although limited, she has more executive experience then either barry or biden. She’s got her feet on the ground, appears well studied, is the epitome of the American Dream and can formulate intelligent answers without tying herself in knots like The One Idiot. Republicans need to stop accepting and believing the leftist line that people who indeed exhibit all that Americans aspire to(ex. Romney, Palin)are not to be respected or trusted.
peacenprosperity on August 30, 2008 at 8:28 AM
The body of the female in the photo certainly has great legs, but I’m not sure I can vouch for Sarah’cuda. This picture appears to be a fake. And I suspect we will see more and more of this kind of foolishness as Nov 4 approaches.
ManlyRash on August 30, 2008 at 8:41 AM
MB4 on August 30, 2008 at 6:32 AM –
Thanks MB4…now I got to head over to St. Aloysius and hit the Confessional. Sinful, naughty thoughts…naugthy naughty thoughts… :-)
Just from the money count over at McCain.org, and the number of comments here, and the deluge of negative comments on most of the traditional leftie sites…the Palin choice certainly raised the temperature.
Can’t imagine the same sort of response in any quarter to a Cantor, or Pawlenty, certainly not to a Lieberman or other apparently “safe” choice.
Hope the convention has more “normal” Americans involved at the front end than the usual slate of rock stars/celebs that were the focus in Denver. That subliminal difference plus the choice of a “hockey mom” might just work well to dispel the notion that the GOP is full of elitists and the Dems somehow represent the common person…give the independents and hopefully a few Dems something to take in, and vote for.
coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 8:44 AM
Glass is half full version: the pick has energized the base in a way that McCain is incapable of doing himself, and ironically magnifies the inexperience of Obama. By having lefties and their support structure in the press criticize her as “inexperienced”, uncommitted voters are reminded that Obama has less experience, and he’ll look even more like an empty suit because he’s at the top of the ticket.
With Biden there, it’s like Obama brought his Dad to make sure he doesn’t screw everything up.
Jaibones on August 30, 2008 at 8:44 AM
With Biden there, it’s like Obama brought his Dad to make sure he doesn’t screw everything up.
Jaibones on August 30, 2008 at 8:44 AM
Maybe Howard Dean sent Biden along for that express purpose?
coldwarrior on August 30, 2008 at 8:46 AM
And of course that’s not true. McCain has been thinking about this for months. He made the decision recently, but he didn’t just say, ‘okay, that woman there’ or anything like that.
Just because he’s not on camera for you to see in conversations with her – doesn’t mean there weren’t conversations with her both face to face and on telephone. McCain and his people have been researching her and all the others for months. He knows her.
The only ‘wow’ here is to wonder how you came to your opinion.
wise_man on August 30, 2008 at 9:07 AM
Has anyone else noticed that MSNBC’s little stunt (During the announcement of Palin, the byline in red at the bottom of the screen: “BREAKING NEWS: HOW MANY HOUSES DOES PALIN ADD TO THE TICKET??”) last night has attracted no attention at all?
I don’t even see anything about it on Newsbusters.
What gives?
cgoode777 on August 30, 2008 at 9:53 AM
Okay, she’s got my vote.
eanax on August 30, 2008 at 10:48 AM
On the other hand, I listen to Glenn Beck and say this is what I’ve been thinking and what I have concerns and doubts about…
eanax on August 30, 2008 at 10:53 AM
O’Reilly was screaming about it, apparently. Hey, it’s the Olbermann Channel. They’re only hurting themselves.
Jim Treacher on August 30, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Correction: The woman whose body Palin’s face was amateurishly Photoshopped onto has better legs than Biden. Although the real Palin is a runner…
Jim Treacher on August 30, 2008 at 11:04 AM
It’s frightening to see the number dull shed tools who can be so easily duped by a photoshop. You can’t seriously believe that was a picture of Palin, can you??
pc on August 30, 2008 at 11:11 AM
AP, I don’t have a problem with Palin, although I wouldn’t have minded letting her percolate in Alaska another 4 years. What I’m afraid of is McCain is using her as cover. Everyone is running around doing the snoopy dance with her inclusion on the ticket. Somebody around here is already comparing her to Maggie Thatcher. Why? Unless you believe that Dick Cheney secretly ran our government, the VP has no official say in policy. John McCain is still at the top of the ticket; we’re still going to get his quasi center left garbage once he’s safely in. All I see is the same turd sandwich, but now we have a sprig of parsley and a pickle to go with it. Maybe one of those nice chocolate mints on the side.
McCain didn’t change his mind on ANWR with gas at over $4.00 a gallon. You think ‘Legs’ from Alaska is going to put the wood to him on this? When McCain starts up with Cap and Trade, or another amnesty, is she going to march into his office and say ‘I can’t let you do this.’ ? I doubt it. He’s going to send her out to sell it to us rubes. He’s going to make her like him: a washington insider that lies his a** off during election time and then does whatever he wants once he’s safely in office.
Yes, I know, Obama sucks and Biden is a dipsh*t. But knowing how bad they are doesn’t make me feel any less like we’re being forced to choose someone who is also going to be bad. To me, we’re still being marched to the gallows of a crap presidency; Palin is just a better looking guard to prod us along.
austinnelly on August 30, 2008 at 11:54 AM
Savage shares AP’s view, at least the misogynistic part of it.
Christine on August 30, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Dude. There is literally not a single place on earth that was more desperately searching for a black man to elevate to their top position, than the Harvard Law Review. His farcical election to Editor validated everything in their worldview.
Jaibones on August 30, 2008 at 12:39 PM
We will have to be on McCain like white on rice to stop him from pushing his amnesty deal. No matter who he picked, we would have to be vigilant. Palin does not make John a conservative, but she certainly is…Methinks that’s where some of ‘the rub’ is for the naysayers, some of whom are thinly-veiled misogynists and anti-God bed-wetters.
Uuuuuu…that must sting. Apply the Neosporin in a clockwise motion.
Christine on August 30, 2008 at 1:49 PM
I hope I’m wrong. I really do. I can’t imagine a worse nightmare than Obama winning. But I can’t help but see that the elation over Palin is more relief that he didn’t pick Romney or Leiberman. Abortion seems to be the overriding factor for conservatives.
I’m pro-abortion and I would have voted for McCain. But right now I won’t vote for a woman. Not for president. McCain is 72 years old. Will he live to his 90’s like Reagan did? Maybe. I’m not willing to take that chance.
I’m willing to wait and see how the convention goes. If, unlike the Democrats, the words “radical Islam” get mentioned, maybe I’ll change my mind. If Palin gets strong on that, maybe I’ll be willing to overlook the fact that she’s a woman and vote for McCain. We’ll see.
But I doubt it. Hell, who am I kidding. I’m not even going to bother to vote. Why should I? I live in Massachusetts. McCain doesn’t have a chance in Hell here.
Jaynie59 on August 30, 2008 at 2:45 PM
weren’t you sufficiently spanked when you posted this nonsense 12 hours ago?
oh, right, you never read the replies because then you might have to actually justify yourself.
TheCulturalist on August 30, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Wow, it’s all about Jonah; how NYers may make fun of the use of the word “mama” (which is what we all call our mama); and accepting the liberal premise that “Ole Plagerizing Plugs& Capps” Biden even has true foreign policy experience. Sitting in senate committees and calling for the partitioning of Iraq do not qualify.
Quit accepting the false liberal premises.
Branch Rickey on August 30, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Why have they not jumped on All of Obama’s gaffe’s?
double standard? able to call a young woman an idiot but not a young black man?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9hZpJp7U3Y
Chakra Hammer on August 30, 2008 at 11:01 PM
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