Pessimistic blogger feeling pessimistic about pick

posted at 3:37 pm on August 29, 2008 by Allahpundit

Ponnuru, Halperin, and Jonah Goldberg have fleshed out most of the negatives so read them first, paying particular attention to Goldberg’s point about Palin’s parochialism. The Dan Quayle narrative is already circling overhead in search of a gaffe to alight on, which is why, fairly or not, Obama’s lack of experience isn’t as damaging as hers. Whatever you think of Barry O, he’s got intelligence to spare to handle the job; a voter worried that Obama doesn’t know what he’s in for can console himself with the fact that he’ll be a quick study. That may be true of Palin too but she doesn’t have much time to show it, which is why every last mistake on the trail will be magnified to “prove” that she’s a hick who’s out of her depth. She’ll have to be letter perfect, especially in the debate with Biden, to convince independents she’s up to it. If she isn’t, I think McCain’s support in the center will collapse as people worry, as I did with Pawlenty and now with Palin herself, that we’re handing the keys to the kingdom to a totally unknown quantity who’s one 72-year-old heartbeat away from being commander-in-chief. Think she can be perfect for 67 days? Can anyone?

The good news is that everyone to the right of the nutroots will be rooting for her to do well, so personally appealing and comparatively guileless is she. That’ll buy her some leeway, as will the fact that Team Barry has to tread lightly when attacking a small-town girl in the year of PUMAs and Bittergate. But the Obama camp doesn’t have to do the attacking; the media, scrambling for a prefab storyline, will supply the clueless yokel ammunition for them. Check out CNN’s post from a few minutes ago picking up on that veep clip I just wrote about. Quote:

“As for that V.P. talk all the time,” she told CNBC’s Larry Kudlow in late July, “I tell ya, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me: What is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?”

Are McCain’s and Obama’s interviews usually transcribed phonetically like that, with “ya” in place of “you”? The meme’s already aloft, you see. I’m not sold on the idea that she’s going to attract women voters either, especially Hillary types. One of the subtler virtues of the hick meme is that even if it doesn’t convince voters she’s dumb, it might at least convince PUMAs that she’s not “our kind” of woman. The left is exceptionally good at authenticity games, and the better Palin does on the trail, the more fervently they’re going to push the idea that she’s a traitor to her gender whom no “real” feminist would ever support. My boss gets that from them 24/7. Here’s Susan Estrich, taking a tiny step in that direction by making the otherwise pedestrian point that Hillary and Palin aren’t political twins:

She paid her dues. She walked through fire. She survived. It’s hard to give that up, not only hard for her to give up the dream but also hard for the rest of us.

What does any of that have to do with Sarah Palin?

Only Her Majesty, forged in the furnace of overweening privilege, deserves real respect. That point’s metastasizing already, in fact, into an argument that picking Palin actually proves McCain’s contempt for women voters insofar as it shows he thinks they’re automatons who’ll vote on the basis of gender and nothing more. That’s pure garbage — the near-hysterical enthusiasm on the right today proves her appeal goes deeper than her sex — but I’m positively aching at the thought of our nuanced left affecting high dudgeon for the next two months over, of all things, identity politics. You turds invented this game. Don’t cry because you’re suddenly getting beat at it. When Hillary stops making “plantation” references to the GOP on MLK Day, Palin will stop pitching herself to women voters, how’s that?

So there’s the pessimism. Now the praise: Not only is this the most galvanizing pick Maverick could have made, but the thought of watching progressives tie themselves in knots over the next two months trying to square the inevitable attacks on the “bimbo” beauty queen with poor, poor Hillary’s sexist treatment by the media is worth it even if we lose. Imagine the sort of crap that’ll be airing against her on MSNBC come mid-October. I haven’t cut a check for a candidate since 2004, but I’m suddenly inspired. Here’s the link.

Update: One other thing. I don’t think Palin’s going to make the play for the center; I think she’s going to anchor the base, which is suddenly in love, so that Maverick can go be his old mavericky self with independents. Short of reversing himself on abortion, there’s not much he could do at this point to make conservatives stay home.

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ENOUGH with the negative waves. It’s coronation time baby. She’s it. Long live the queen.

Mojave Mark on August 29, 2008 at 8:17 PM

It’s not a sin to realize that your victory is not guaranteed. If anything, the refusal of some to be objectively analytical when considering Obama’s position is an example of sloth. The only presumption going on is that of people proclaiming him to be the intellectual equivalent of a glass of water.

MadisonConservative on August 29, 2008 at 6:18 PM

Absolutely.

Michael in MI on August 29, 2008 at 8:19 PM

CSPAN reshowing the announcement. Is she readint a prompter? If she is, she’s good. If not, she’s even better! She’s a natural.

SouthernGent on August 29, 2008 at 8:20 PM

CSPAN reshowing the announcement. Is she readint a prompter? If she is, she’s good. If not, she’s even better! She’s a natural.

SouthernGent on August 29, 2008 at 8:20 PM

Shhhhhhhh…..don’t you know…..she’s a hick! ;)

FiveWays on August 29, 2008 at 8:22 PM

Regarding the Dan Quayle and Latin comment. Someone refresh me: didn’t Odumbo of the 57 states recently state that we need more Arabic translators in Afghanistan? Did anyone laugh like a hyena over that?

Buck Farack on August 29, 2008 at 8:14 PM

No, because he didn’t say they needed more Afghan translators.

MadisonConservative on August 29, 2008 at 8:22 PM

Obama showed off his knowledge of the war in Afghanistan by honing in on a lack of translators: “We only have a certain number of them and if they are all in Iraq, then it’s harder for us to use them in Afghanistan.” The real reason it’s “harder for us to use them” in Afghanistan: Iraqis speak Arabic or Kurdish. The Afghanis speak Pashto, Farsi, or other non-Arabic languages.

- Michell Malkin

FiveWays on August 29, 2008 at 8:24 PM

I think Rush Limbaugh has it right: this is an inspired choice. Governor Palin did very, very well today. I liked her, and I bet tens of millions of Americans had the same positive reaction.

Phil Byler on August 29, 2008 at 8:25 PM

You are an annoying person, Allah–an exceptionally annoying person, partly because you work hard at it

Your analysis stinks, and………disappoints.

Janos Hunyadi on August 29, 2008 at 8:12 PM

Rumor has it he’s a New Yorker
He’s a reckless lawyer
I hear he carries several whips
He’s a sultan of Wall Street
with women at his fingertips
They say he’s nearly seven feet tall
And yet quite graceful……all in all
I’m told he waddles when he walks
And often twitches when he talks
Is he a dolt? No, he’s very deep!
Oh, Hotair’s losing sleep!
Who is Allahpundit?

Is he a hero or a skunk, a fighting Patton or a drunk?
Who is Allahpundit?
I’m sure he’s flatulent and crass
Here, here, the man’s a horse’s ass
No, no, he’s neighborly and kind
But quite eclectically inclined
Whatever guise he may employ,
He’s Hotair’s pride and joy
This plucky nonpareil
This lucky, bloody swell
Who is Allahpundit?

BlakeneyP on August 29, 2008 at 8:27 PM

That’ll buy her some leeway, as will the fact that Team Barry has to tread lightly when attacking a small-town girl in the year of PUMAs and Bittergate.

Like the “light treading” they did yesterday after BJ’s speech? Hope McChange will go in guns blazing and pretend he didn’t.

Darth Executor on August 29, 2008 at 8:28 PM

True, Phil,

But there are also plenty of Republicans who will never vote for a ticket with a woman on it.

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 8:29 PM

Palin/Jindal 2012 or 2016 depending on if McCain seeks a 2nd term.

- The Cat

MirCat on August 29, 2008 at 8:31 PM

Palin/Jindal 2012 or 2016 depending on if McCain seeks a 2nd term.

- The Cat

MirCat on August 29, 2008 at 8:31 PM

Hell, if the old/young ticket can win, I say Palin/Thompson.

MadisonConservative on August 29, 2008 at 8:33 PM

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 8:29 PM

You’re the longest running joke in hotair history. Democrats throughout this primary have been tripping over each other to vote for racist or sexist reasons and you have the balls to accuse us of being bigoted. Maybe you’d like to sell us eternal youth potions while you’re at it?

Darth Executor on August 29, 2008 at 8:33 PM

True, Phil,

But there are also plenty of Republicans who will never vote for a ticket with a woman on it.

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 8:29 PM

Ya know, no one believes you, right?

You have zero sway. You are the very definition of irrelevance. You provoke but you are ineffective on winning people over to your side. You have the affectations of a mosquito.

I swat at thee.

- The Cat

MirCat on August 29, 2008 at 8:34 PM

Hell, if the old/young ticket can win, I say Palin/Thompson.

MadisonConservative on August 29, 2008 at 8:33 PM

That’s down right conservative porn.

- That

MirCat on August 29, 2008 at 8:35 PM

A lot of people have it in their heads that everything from bad weather to high oil prices is the fault of rich Republicans. And if a regular guy gets in there, well the price of a barrel of oil will fall immediately, health care will cease to problem and world peace will follow.

I know it is bullshit, but sometimes you got to fight fire with fire. Palin is not a hick..she is an American. The real thing. A small town girl running for the second highest job in the land.

Is she a shoe in? No, not at all. But right now, she is the closest thing we have to outside the Beltway.

Terrye on August 29, 2008 at 8:36 PM

I think more Republicans will vote for McCain/Palin than Democrats will vote for Obama/Biden.

Loxodonta on August 29, 2008 at 8:36 PM

Allah, I used to respect you but this is some of the worst drivel I’ve ever read. It’s also wrong, wrong, wrong.

Whose side are you on, Allah? I’m having to ask that question now. Is this Michelle Malkin’s site? Or did she farm it out?

Maybe you should see if KOS is hiring, Allah.

I won’t be visiting very often in the future. This place
has gone downhill and now it is starting to stink.

prairiemain on August 29, 2008 at 8:37 PM

alphie:

That is stupid. I do not know one single Republican who has ever said he would not vote for a ticket with a woman on it. You have such a warped idea about Americans.

Terrye on August 29, 2008 at 8:37 PM

Anyone notice out big and bold Palin is on McCain’s buttons/signs?

- The Cat

MirCat on August 29, 2008 at 8:39 PM

prairiemain on August 29, 2008 at 8:37 PM

*whispering* You’re overreacting.

- The Cat

MirCat on August 29, 2008 at 8:40 PM

I won’t be visiting very often in the future. This place
has gone downhill and now it is starting to stink.

prairiemain on August 29, 2008 at 8:37 PM

I know the gutter and I know the stink of the street
Kicked like a dog, I have spat out the bile of defeat
All you beauties who towered above me
You who gave me the smack of your rod
Now I give you the gutter
I give you the judgment of God!

BlakeneyP on August 29, 2008 at 8:40 PM

Join the Kool-Aid drinkers because I couldn’t disagree more. He’s the dumbest smart person I’ve seen in a long time. He simply cannot think well on his feet. He belongs in a think tank or a faculty lounge…but not in the Oval Office.

Hold on there. You and I know well that The Chosen O is a pre-planned worthless excuse of a candidate who can’t take it under pressure, especially when it comes to interviews.

I believe Allah is pointing out his strengths for those “liberal-progressive” voters, knowing that they’ll buy into it with dumbfounded smiles and glee.

ChuckInHawaii on August 29, 2008 at 8:42 PM

That’s down right conservative porn.

- That

MirCat on August 29, 2008 at 8:35 PM

You owe me a keyboard that hasn’t been spewed with beer and spittle.

MadisonConservative on August 29, 2008 at 8:42 PM

Sorry6 to burst your bubble, mir.

At least I didn’t bring up all the stay at home mothers who think Palin is abandoning her kids…

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 8:44 PM

Wow, so much material and only limited space. Let me start here – the Constitution gives the Vice-President only 2 specific duties: be President of the Senate and break tie votes (remember AlGore’s tie-breaker in 1993 on the vote for Bubba’s massive tax increase?) and become President if the sitting President dies or is incapacitated. Other than that, the duties are whatever the President assigns to the VP.

Now let’s look at the qualifications of Ms. Palin. Does she have a degree from Columbia or a Harvard Law degree? Nope – her undergrad is from University of Idaho. Now maybe those snobs on the east and west coast will look down their nose at Sarah’s education, but middle America won’t. As a matter of fact, most of middle America is VERY wary of folks from the “elite” schools – thinking (and in most cases correctly) that they have had their heads filled with a bunch of leftist crap instead of a real education. The fact that she isn’t a lawyer is a plus as well. Look at the standing of lawyers in this country – down around where used car salesman reside. I rest my case.

What Sarah has instead is real world experience solving real world problems. Maybe Wasilla, Alaska only has 9,000 people and the whole state 650,000, but being a small town Mayor and a small state Governor has challenges that the large states don’t face, especially when you are the Governor of a state where a hostile entity (the Federal Government) owns a majority of the land in your state. Sarah has the kind of executive experience that both Obama and Biden totally lack. As Governor she has had to deal with 2 very large foreign countries on her borders plus dealing with various sovereign entities (various Native American tribes) within Alaska. She has accomplished a great deal in the 2 years she has been Governor, including that gas pipeline deal that a whole string of Gov. over the last 30 years have been unable to nail down.

The lady is not the lightweight the leftists will try and make her out to be. I think all of you will see this in the next few weeks.

I’ll close with this – Gerri Ferraro is right: if Obama wasn’t black, based on his resume, flaming Bolshevic background and his stances on the issues he never would have been nominated to be President. Between now and November we need to pound him on these weaknesses, make his lunatic leftist plans for this country a millstone around his neck and drive home the fact that he is the most unqualified person to run for President since Millerd Filmore – a real slick empty suit. If we can drive this message home, McCain / Palin will win in a landslide.

Bill_Bowen on August 29, 2008 at 8:44 PM

MirCat on August 29, 2008 at 8:39 PM

Just saw them. They look good.

Loxodonta on August 29, 2008 at 8:44 PM

But there are also plenty of Republicans who will never vote for a ticket with a woman on it.

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 8:29 PM

Bull. Put Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, MKH, or Laura Ingraham on the ticket, and there won’t be a single holdout.

MadisonConservative on August 29, 2008 at 8:44 PM

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 8:44 PM

Cicero you are not.

- The Cat

MirCat on August 29, 2008 at 8:46 PM

Nobody is going to be perfect. Even if they were, the MSM would find something or just make it up.
If Bill Clinton lowered the bar for everyone. If he could somehow make it as President, anyone can!

JellyToast on August 29, 2008 at 8:46 PM

Charles at LGF feels queazy about Palin because she’s a Creationist. AP feels queazy about Palin because she’s a Creationist/non atheist. Do I sense a common theme here?

Or am I being obtuse? (slam)

Coronagold on August 29, 2008 at 8:47 PM

But there are also plenty of Republicans who will never vote for a ticket with a woman on it.

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 8:29 PM

Evidence please.

Sorry6 to burst your bubble, mir.

At least I didn’t bring up all the stay at home mothers who think Palin is abandoning her kids…

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 8:44 PM

Again evidence please.

FiveWays on August 29, 2008 at 8:47 PM

Michelle Malkin linked this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFjqZ_vvLNc

- The Cat

MirCat on August 29, 2008 at 8:47 PM

Give him another month.

Coronagold on August 29, 2008 at 8:48 PM

I’ve been annoyed but never disappointed by you, but your belief that Obama has above-average intelligence is MUCHO disappointing. The evidence–which you’ve presented as much as anyone–shows that BHO is a pedestrian slow-thinking doofus once he is away from a teleprompter

Your analysis stinks, and………disappoints.

Janos Hunyadi on August 29, 2008 at 8:12 PM

God, when did man lose his reason?
Save us, my God, if you’re there
God, can you not feel the terror like a fire in the air?

BlakeneyP on August 29, 2008 at 8:48 PM

MC, you are doing what I almost did just now: Feeding the troll! :-)

Mary in LA on August 29, 2008 at 8:48 PM

Charles at LGF feels queazy about Palin because she’s a Creationist. AP feels queazy about Palin because she’s a Creationist/non atheist. Do I sense a common theme here?

Or am I being obtuse? (slam)

Coronagold on August 29, 2008 at 8:47 PM

Question: when’s the last time they DIDN’T feel queazy?

Seriously- when, and about whom?

FiveWays on August 29, 2008 at 8:50 PM

Isn’t it great hearing all the Daily Kos morons complimenting the many highly experienced members of the Republican Party McCain didn’t pick? Lordy, lordy, how nice of them….

Speedwagon82 on August 29, 2008 at 8:52 PM

Bull. Put Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, MKH, or Laura Ingraham on the ticket, and there won’t be a single holdout.

MadisonConservative on August 29, 2008 at 8:44 PM

That’s not exactly true. I know plenty of Republican-voters who can’t stand Ann Coulter. Heck, Michelle Malkin and the HotAir staff were bagging on Coulter at the CPAC last year I believe. And many commenters here can’t stand Coulter either. Personally, I think she is great. But let’s not project our own liking of someone onto all Republican voters.

Personally, I don’t care much for Laura Ingrahm and while I appreciate the research that Michelle Malkin does for her articles and posts, I don’t like her style on a lot of things. Sometimes comes across childish. And I don’t know much about MKH except that she is put forth as some sort of expert on Fox News and did a bunch of vlogs at Townhall and here at HotAir. I think she is attractive, but I’m not going to vote for her based on that.

Not to defend alphie, but I do believe there are many voters who would not vote for a woman, Republicans included. And I believe that many Hillary supporters will not vote for McCain simply because he has Palin on the ticket, because they are Leftists before they are women. Just like the Left calls Black conservatives/Republicans ‘Uncle Toms’, the Left will also not consider Palin… because she is a Republican.

But, we’ll all find out who is correct come November…

Michael in MI on August 29, 2008 at 8:52 PM

MC, you are doing what I almost did just now: Feeding the troll! :-)

Mary in LA on August 29, 2008 at 8:48 PM

Flash, slash, glisten and gash!

BlakeneyP on August 29, 2008 at 8:52 PM

Worrying about a candidate’s ability to pull off an election, or having a philosophical difference with a candidate, does not mean that you are not supporting those same candidates. Conservatives are not all of one mind.

And recognizing Obama’s talents and accomplishments does not mean that you are supporting Obama. If it does, then how do you explain John McCain’s congratulation to Obama last night.

Loxodonta on August 29, 2008 at 8:58 PM

[I have NOT read the above posts.]

I think the most potent element of all of this is that McCain/Palin (taken as a whole) WIPES OUT Obama/Biden (taken as a whole).

Yeah, baby!
(I’d heard Austin once say…).

Lockstein13 on August 29, 2008 at 8:58 PM

based on anecdotes and my gut I think McCain by choosing Palin has tapped something huge on the right and in middle America.

elduende on August 29, 2008 at 9:00 PM

Thanks AP. I needed to come back down to earth. I still love this pick. MSM is already trying to destroy her. You know that means it got to them. Remember today was supposed to be about Obama, and how great he is. I say she plays well everywhere, except in Manhatten, Georgetown, SF, or LA.

chief on August 29, 2008 at 9:01 PM

Michael in MI on August 29, 2008 at 8:52 PM

That’s true. I wouldn’t vote for Michelle probably. I don’t’ think pundits are good politicians usually.

Spirit of 1776 on August 29, 2008 at 9:03 PM

I think the most potent element of all of this is that McCain/Palin (taken as a whole) WIPES OUT Obama/Biden (taken as a whole).

heh. Sarah’cuda.

ManlyRash on August 29, 2008 at 9:04 PM

Palin is the perfect weapon. It’s like she was assembled in a laboratory to destroy Obama bin Biden. Everything new I read about her makes me laugh with glee. She belonged to a union, too? Priceless.

The best thing about her is the Tar Baby factor. Outraged, frightened, and cocky Obama minions have already begun to self-destruct against her. The Obama press auxiliary will be the hardest hit, because they have the most real-time television presence, and will be unable to contain their worst impulses. They’ll mock her speech and small-town origins, and remind everybody of the “bitter clingers” incident. They’ll try lobbing guilt-by-association firecrackers, forgetting Obama is standing there, doused in gasoline. They’ll try to beat the Hopenchange drum, and choke as they realize Palin (and, whatever else you might think of him, McCain) are real reformers, genuine bipartisans. They’ll try to smear her as a pro-life extremist, then look around to see seventy percent of the country glaring at them in disgust, while Palin plays with the son she wouldn’t sacrifice on the altar of convenience. They’ll try to smear her as some kind of oil company stooge, and make the rest of us remember Obama’s tire gauge energy plan. They’ll impugn her religious beliefs, but all America will hear is echoes of “God damn America!” rolling through a racist church.

McCain wasn’t my first pick for presidential candidate this time around, but the Palin pick made me realize the thing he has in common with his running mate: they’re real people. They make mistakes, and they might not do everything right from here… but Sarah Palin didn’t get the nod because of who her husband was, or because a big-city political machine got behind her, or because a gaggle of reporters is trying to deafen everyone by screaming about how great she is. She isn’t a tired old machine pol best known for committing a crime. She didn’t walk out of a twenty-year cesspool of terrorist sympathies, racist tirades, and lunatic conspiracy theories, slip on a toga made from an American flag, and start asking people to believe she’s a red-blooded child of Uncle Sam.

It’s kind of sad the other side can’t find anyone like that. I wish every defeated Democrat candidate didn’t seem, in retrospect, like a bullet America dodged, and I wish Bill Clinton hadn’t been a bullet Osama bin Laden dodged.

Doctor Zero on August 29, 2008 at 9:06 PM

Think I’ll go read DU

easy on August 29, 2008 at 9:10 PM

ABSOLUTELY TRUE STORY:

I went out to lunch late this afternoon, and I overheard (couldn’t avoid it; they were standing right next to me and talking loudly):

“Thats a fine, saucy lookin’ filly.
I’ll bet she could win this race just standing still, looking like she does in that picture.”

My first thought was, of course, given the events of the day, that he was referring to Sarah Palin.
.
.
.
I later took a look at the newspaper he was pointing to, and it turned out to be a local horse entered in the upcoming “Worlds Richest Horse Race”, the All-American Futurity.

But I wasn’t at all embarrassed at my mistake; it was the most natural of assumptions.
———————————————
Later, at the barbershop, I regaled the guys with the story of Ms. Palin, and they were pretty enthused about her, and agreed with me that they didn’t think McCain had it in him to pick ANY sort of conservative, much less someone like her (IE: strong personality, NOT a RINO or Dem. Senate Fraternity buddy).

LegendHasIt on August 29, 2008 at 9:15 PM

Obama Bin Biden..LOL.

Palin’s a damn good lookin lady I tell ya. We’ll be watching and learning more.

johnnyU on August 29, 2008 at 9:16 PM

It’s too early for me to comment yet on the pros and cons of Palin. Looking at McCain and Obama, I think we have a choice between two very bad candidates. It’s always a choice between the lesser of evils. What I can say though is that McCain and Palin are MUCH BETTER than Obama and Biden. I have a feeling though McCain just made it harder for himself to get elected.

apacalyps on August 29, 2008 at 9:18 PM

Okay. I just watched a clip of our girl speaking next to our man.

I gotta’ say this ..

Obama Nation? I now understand the woozy swoony kinda’ feeling you get .. okay? I get it. Girlfriend got me dizzy. So to the extent that I mocked you for getting the vapors, I hereby apologize.

This, of course, comes with an important caveat:

My new crush sits on the number TWO spot on the ticket, and brings more experience than your number ONE boyfriend.

We win.

And I win.

What a great country.

cgoode777 on August 29, 2008 at 9:26 PM

Britney Spears, another woman famous for her looks, was just in a McCain ad.

Are you saying Palin is a celebrity, too, cgoode?

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 9:29 PM

As an unapologetic conservative my heart is moved to the thought that a person such as Sarah is making herself available for public service. I admire her story.

Sound character and strong principles are more valued than experience. She’s proven to have them all.

florin on August 29, 2008 at 9:30 PM

Allahpundit
Perk up yes there are downsides but here is a person who went from Choosing McCain because he wasn’t Obama to today feeling like the world is good again.
I like alot about Sarah Palin especially that she is a Washington outsider. She is not more of the same.

Gracelynn on August 29, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Britney Spears, another woman famous for her looks, was just in a McCain ad.

Are you saying Palin is a celebrity, too, cgoode?

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 9:29 PM

I don’t even have enough time to explain how that misreads my post. You’re in the wrong place, nitwit.

Looks like there aren’t too many I.Q. points to go around tonight.

Goin’ to get some dinner.

Nite.

cgoode777 on August 29, 2008 at 9:36 PM

I have a feeling though McCain just made it harder for himself to get elected

Au contraire, Apocalyps…he just ensured his victory. Heh, heh, heh…Sarah’cuda.

ManlyRash on August 29, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Palin is the perfect weapon. It’s like she was assembled in a laboratory to destroy Obama bin Biden. Everything new I read about her makes me laugh with glee. She belonged to a union, too? Priceless.

Bullseye, Doctor Zero. Bullseye. Go’ bless ye, sir.

ManlyRash on August 29, 2008 at 9:42 PM

Just got back from dinner. Scene: a restaurant in a liberal college town in the middle of Ohio. The subject of a boisterous discussion in a normally sedate restaurant — Governor Palin.

From servers, to bar staff, from college professors and students to farmers and truckers and 9-5 ordinary men and women, around here, Palin hit a home run this morning.

Here in Ohio, the day after the Dem extravaganza in Denver…barely a mention of the Convention, very little on Obama, but almost all of the conversation about Palin…and just about all of it positive.

She is one of us.

The least we can do is to get off our collective butts and get some real Americans in charge of the government, our government, you know, we, the people.

Last night, Obama talked about the old tired politics of the Washington establishment…and then he went on to show how very much he and his running mate are indeed very much a huge part of that Washington establishment.

Obama has set himself up. And folks around here can see it, clearly.

Talk about change…a normal neighbor down the street vying for the Vice Presidency, a PTA mom, a hockey mom, a former mayor, and sitting governor…plain spoken, like people around here understand.

No, maybe she doesn’t have a fine Harvard education…and we have seen exactly what such a fine education actually produces over the years.

Palin is in touch with the feelings, dreams, and beliefs of real Americans.

And here, in this normally quiet corner of Ohio, Palin has struck a vein, a deep vein, in a way that can only serve to get Ohio (other than the nanny-dependent victimhood-propagating fiefdoms of Cleveland and Toledo) on board and vote for real change in Washington.

POW/WOW 08! Indeed!!

coldwarrior on August 29, 2008 at 9:44 PM

Bill_Bowen on August 29, 2008 at 8:44 PM

Damn.

Nicely done.

Okay .. now I really am going.

I’m hungry.

cgoode777 on August 29, 2008 at 9:45 PM

Palin is in touch with the feelings, dreams, and beliefs of real Americans.

Did you look into her soul, like did to Putin, cold?

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 9:51 PM

Obama showed off his knowledge of the war in Afghanistan by honing in on a lack of translators: “We only have a certain number of them and if they are all in Iraq, then it’s harder for us to use them in Afghanistan.” The real reason it’s “harder for us to use them” in Afghanistan: Iraqis speak Arabic or Kurdish. The Afghanis speak Pashto, Farsi, or other non-Arabic languages.

- Michell Malkin

FiveWays on August 29, 2008 at 8:24 PM

Of course, with Obama’s extensive foreign policy experience as a boy of 8 in Indonesia, all of them look alike.

coldwarrior on August 29, 2008 at 9:56 PM

But there are also plenty of Republicans who will never vote for a ticket with a woman on it.

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 8:29 PM

Bull. Put Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, MKH, or Laura Ingraham on the ticket, and there won’t be a single holdout.

MadisonConservative on August 29, 2008 at 8:44 PM

Agreed in spades. They wouldn’t get on a ticket with McCain though. He doesn’t care to be upstaged.

Cold Steel on August 29, 2008 at 9:56 PM

Would anyone point me to any detailed discussion of Alaska’s “Troopergate” in any of the Hot Air Palin threads?

Loxodonta on August 29, 2008 at 10:03 PM

But there are also plenty of Republicans who will never vote for a ticket with a woman on it.

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 8:29 PM

When we get a woman candidate with the conservatism and strength of a Margaret Thatcher, we will vote for her. Sarah Palin looks like just such a candidate right now.

pedestrian on August 29, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Even Margaret Thather was in favor of abortion in cases where a father rapes his own daughter, ped.

Palin says the poor girl should be forced to give birth to her own sister…that’s out there on the fringes of society.

I pity you if you side with Palin on this one, ped.

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 10:11 PM

But there are also plenty of Republicans who will never vote for a ticket with a woman on it.

alphie on August 29, 2008 at 8:29 PM

When we get a woman candidate with the conservatism and strength of a Margaret Thatcher, we will vote for her. Sarah Palin looks like just such a candidate right now.

pedestrian on August 29, 2008 at 10:08 PM

McCain’s secrecy combined with his history since 2000 gives me no clue as to whether this could be a “Margaret Thatcher” pick. He pays lip service to conservatism, and generally uses “conservative” points to further his own ends. When he started using the blue collar keywords during his intro, it smacked of identity politics.

Cold Steel on August 29, 2008 at 10:13 PM

She is only the VP nominee, why make such a big deal?

paulsur on August 29, 2008 at 10:14 PM

She is only the VP nominee, why make such a big deal?

paulsur on August 29, 2008 at 10:14 PM

Cause she’s going to be sitting in Darth Cheney’s con.

Cold Steel on August 29, 2008 at 10:17 PM

She is only the VP nominee, why make such a big deal?

paulsur on August 29, 2008 at 10:14 PM

Why? Because Palin has done something in the past 12 hours that was deemed impossible by the “experts” and pundits for the past several months. She has moved a lot of “I’m gonna stay home on election day” Republicans and independents to voice their new-found desire to vote on 4 November.

The McCain campaign is looking at over $3 million since noon today in contributions, and they are still coming in.

coldwarrior on August 29, 2008 at 10:19 PM

I just heard Michael Savage say that he thinks McCain just lost the election. He thinks the only advantage he had over Obama was just lost because of the inexperience of Palin. He is not excited one bit. He will still vote McCain, but he believes this is a monumental and astonishing mistake.

kyarnes on August 29, 2008 at 10:20 PM

I just heard Michael Savage say that he thinks McCain just lost the election. He thinks the only advantage he had over Obama was just lost because of the inexperience of Palin. He is not excited one bit. He will still vote McCain, but he believes this is a monumental and astonishing mistake.

kyarnes on August 29, 2008 at 10:20 PM

Amazing that only Savage had that issue. I was surprised to hear Rush gush so much about it. He has major issues with how the Dems operate, and then he gets excited when we beat them to something like electing a woman. It’s borderline hypocrisy if that’s what you hang on to as a conservative.

Cold Steel on August 29, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Savage thought Romney was the logical choice in many ways.

kyarnes on August 29, 2008 at 10:33 PM

I guess there’s nothing wrong with a little affirmative action.

freevillage on August 29, 2008 at 10:38 PM

Pessimistic blogger feeling pessimistic about pick

Ha, not worried in the least about you, AP. You and Ed make this the best anywhere on the net for intelligent commentary. Tanks!

petefrt on August 29, 2008 at 10:41 PM

kyarnes on August 29, 2008 at 10:33 PM

Logic and identity politics diverge much of the time.

Cold Steel on August 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM

I just heard Michael Savage say that he thinks McCain just lost the election. He thinks the only advantage he had over Obama was just lost because of the inexperience of Palin. He is not excited one bit. He will still vote McCain, but he believes this is a monumental and astonishing mistake.

kyarnes on August 29, 2008 at 10:20 PM

Savage mocked Ted Kennedy when his life was in danger. It was one of many “shock jock” moments that he did for publicity. In terms of astuteness, I think he’s got all the political acumen of a two-by-four.

MadisonConservative on August 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM

The anti-Michelle Obama… This woman is great!! I think her husband is also good for McCain in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. My first impression is of him is stand-up, traditional American blue collar, the kind of people that made this country great. Down to earth, not afraid to roll up his sleeves and go to work. He seems like a regular guy you’d know from the plant….Something you cannot say for Obama/Biden.

John on August 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM

My first impression is of him is stand-up, traditional American blue collar, the kind of people that made this country great. Down to earth, not afraid to roll up his sleeves and go to work. He seems like a regular guy you’d know from the plant….Something you cannot say for Obama/Biden.

All of a sudden, Obama/Biden look attractive.

freevillage on August 29, 2008 at 10:46 PM

coldwarrior on August 29, 2008 at 9:44 PM

Doctor Zero on August 29, 2008 at 9:06 PM

These two posts say it all, and say it well. In a thread spattered with troll jibber-jabber and the usual fake quotes from MB4, you guys Rose Above It.

Janos Hunyadi on August 29, 2008 at 10:51 PM

When Martinez became the RNC Chair, I became an indepenent. I swore that I would never vote for any of the Gang of 12, 14 or 10. But I sent cash to Maverick today! We could be looking at the future of the Republican Party, and she is a conservative. I will do anything I can to get her where we need her to be. Thank you John, for pulling your head out of your (*&@#$^.

JeffinOrlando on August 29, 2008 at 10:53 PM

John on August 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM –

It all sorta boils down to how one views the Presidency and government. Seems the Dems view the Presidency as the Wizard of Oz…doling out “gifts” and keeping the expensive machinery running behind the curtain, and view government as a great big piggy bank, the kind any small kid would love to have.

But, we are not kids, and the Wizard of Oz was a fake. Adults understand this.

Still, there are too many Americans who have been raised and edcucated to expect government to solve all their problems, and the President to feel their pain and give them “gifts” if they are good enough, smart enough, and by golly, if people like them.

Once tethered to this leash of neo-slavery, it is hard to get people to think for themselves, fend for themselves, and to view themselves as being worthy enough to earn their own way, solve their own problems and serve their nation…you know, taking care of themselves and paying back the Nation for the privlege of living here.

coldwarrior on August 29, 2008 at 10:54 PM

Janos Hunyadi,

I’ve been annoyed but never disappointed by you, but your belief that Obama has above-average intelligence is MUCHO disappointing. The evidence–which you’ve presented as much as anyone–shows that BHO is a pedestrian slow-thinking doofus once he is away from a teleprompter

Your analysis stinks, and………disappoints.

AP’s world is one of perpetual doom for conservatives. It’s beyond tedious. Compared to absentee Senator Obama, Governor Palin is eminently qualified for the White House.

The dinosaur media will loathe Sarah Palin. They’ll question her experience, they’ll question her “authenticity” as a female candidate, and if they can’t find any gaffes that paint her as a rube, they’ll invent them. This shouldn’t be news to any thoughtful conservative commentator.

Mike Honcho on August 29, 2008 at 10:59 PM

How many payrolls have Barack Obama or Joe Biden had to handle?

obladioblada on August 29, 2008 at 11:03 PM

How many payrolls have Barack Obama or Joe Biden had to handle?

obladioblada on August 29, 2008 at 11:03 PM –

Obama/Biden – payroll = payola.

coldwarrior on August 29, 2008 at 11:06 PM

Maybe you should see if KOS is hiring, Allah.
I won’t be visiting very often in the future. This place
has gone downhill and now it is starting to stink.
prairiemain on August 29, 2008 at 8:37 PM

Congratulations, Allah.

SouthernDem on August 29, 2008 at 11:08 PM

Savage is an idiot.

Terrye on August 29, 2008 at 11:13 PM

Allah did not say he was in love with Obama, he just said the guy was smart. He is smart, like a conman is smart.

And Palin does represent a risk, but all worthwhile things do.

Terrye on August 29, 2008 at 11:18 PM

Just got back from dinner. Scene: a restaurant in a liberal college town in the middle of Ohio. The subject of a boisterous discussion in a normally sedate restaurant — Governor Palin.

coldwarrior on August 29, 2008 at 9:44 PM

Were in Yellow Springs? The liberal/Marxist bovine fecal matter is so deep there I’d throw away a pair of shoes for fear of tracking something back into my house.

electric-rascal on August 29, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Doctor Zero

Palin is the perfect weapon. It’s like she was assembled in a laboratory to destroy Obama bin Biden.

lol

coldwarrior

She is one of us.

She has moved a lot of “I’m gonna stay home on election day” Republicans and independents to voice their new-found desire to vote on 4 November.

Agreed –
and haven’t democrats been saying oil and energy and petroleum development are what our foreign policy is all about? Weren’t they all for cleaning up Washington?
she hasn’t just talked about fighting corruption, and dealing with fuel production she has done it with success – in a very short period of time.

Most of all, McCain has shown us what he is about and what his leadership will mean
God bless them both and their friends and their allies.

mary jo on August 29, 2008 at 11:26 PM

I just heard Michael Savage Richard Cranium say that he thinks McCain just lost the election.

Fixed.

electric-rascal on August 29, 2008 at 11:27 PM

electric-rascal on August 29, 2008 at 11:24 PM –
Nope. Not Yellow Springs. I’m a bit west of there.

I understand that Antioch College is closing its doors. Had only 200 enrolled last year. The liberal/marxist bfm seems to have lost its luster in Ohio…and not soon enough.

coldwarrior on August 29, 2008 at 11:30 PM

This Hillary’s supporter is voting for McCain/Palin. I was hoping he’d pick her. (Obviously, my fantasy was that he’d pick Hillary.)

jtorres138 on August 29, 2008 at 11:31 PM

On hearing news of the Dan Quayle pick in 1988, John McCain supposedly said, “I know three things about Dan Quayle: He’s dumber than sh!t, he’s a scratch golfer, and he’s good looking”. What’s the equavalent comment about Palin? Maybe “I know three things about Sarah Palin: She looks like she’s good in bed, she’s an expert hunter, and she’s quite smart”. You can put her down like Quayle I guess. It’s easy to put people down. Quayle turned out to be pretty good, even if, like GW Bush, he can be a very clumsy speaker.

In their debate, Bentson said to Quayle, “You’re no Jack Kennedy”. Quayle looked like he was going to piss his pants. Did it cost Bush a single vote? Probably not.

Most of the recent attacks on McCain and Palin have been very lame. I’m amazed at their lameness. I’ll listen to substantive criticism, but not about McCain’s house, or that Palin said she didn’t know what a VP did.

Paul-Cincy on August 29, 2008 at 11:31 PM

Sarah Palin’s first words upon entering the White House will be: “Give me a copy of the budget, a yellow hi-liter, a pot of black coffee put Sportscenter on that flat screen…I need hockey scores”.

DrW on August 29, 2008 at 3:58 PM

Heh.

“Is there any good fishing around here?”

Jaibones on August 29, 2008 at 11:31 PM

All of a sudden, Obama/Biden look attractive.

freevillage on August 29, 2008 at 10:46 PM

HA! All of a sudden? The liberals have always looked good to you.
All of sudden….HAHAAHAHAH!

right2bright on August 29, 2008 at 11:33 PM

All of a sudden, Obama/Biden look attractive.

freevillage on August 29, 2008 at 10:46 PM

Only to dumb fucks.

Jaibones on August 29, 2008 at 11:39 PM

I just heard Michael Savage say that he thinks McCain just lost the election.
kyarnes on August 29, 2008 at 10:20 PM

I made the unfortunate decision to tune into the radio station on the way home. Savage said he never heard of Palin before. And when some caller mentioned that the base would accept her, he replied “I am the base.”

………….. I used to listen to that man. But only for short moments before I really have to change the station. He’s really getting on my nerves. I can watch O’Reily and not have a spaz attack because of his ego. But Savage is really a difficult pill to swallow. I sincerely hope that Savage is disappointed that McCain wins this november. It will be good for his ratings. For whoever that listens to that man on a regular basis, I guess.

wise_man on August 29, 2008 at 11:41 PM

Now, now, Jaibones. Language young man.

wise_man on August 29, 2008 at 11:41 PM

Congratulations, Allah.

SouthernDem on August 29, 2008 at 11:08 PM

HA! I got it. Nice pull from the past, SouthernDem.

Weight of Glory on August 29, 2008 at 11:46 PM

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