Palin: Yes, there was sexism towards Hillary but she shouldn’t whine about it
posted at 6:49 pm on August 29, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Someone e-mailed me about this earlier and made it sound like she was laying into Hillary, a righteous development in most cases but not on the day she made her pitch to the PUMAs. Not to worry: It’s not a slam, just a gentle nudge that the sisterhood is ill served by a posture of perpetual grievance, especially when the aggrieved is one of the most powerful women in the world. Not to go too far into the tank but I think she strikes just the right note between sympathy and impatience with victimization. But Ben Smith’s right: God help her now if she plays the victim herself when the left starts throwing uppercuts. This’ll run on a loop on cable for a week as a counterpoint. Exit quotation from Ann Althouse: “As a feminist, I love that she did not leverage herself into power through her husband and consider this an important improvement over Hillary.”
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Saracuda is where she is because of who SHE is. Not who she is married to.
D0WNT0WN on August 29, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Who are you and what have you done with Allahpundit?!???
cthulhu on August 29, 2008 at 6:53 PM
Indeed….Hillary had a pretty big advocate.
Sarah goes barracuda on their butts and wins she doesn’t brood.
sven10077 on August 29, 2008 at 6:53 PM
Ex-Hillary fans will obviously line to vote for a younger more attractive pro-life female candidate who might have suggested Hillary “whined.”
Good plan, McCain! Might as well start picking out new curtains for the oval office right now.
e-pirate on August 29, 2008 at 6:54 PM
Any basketball player with the guts to drive the lane hard isn’t going to whine when they draw the foul.
Spirit of 1776 on August 29, 2008 at 6:54 PM
I like her sentiment. I would love it if Palin didn’t take personal attacks personally like thin-skinned Obama does. If she just said, ok, that’s their opinion. That’s them, not me. And be done with it. That would be so refreshing.
Paul-Cincy on August 29, 2008 at 6:55 PM
Here’s a true feminist. She made her own way, didn’t rely on her husband to get her to this point, and is pushing through it all.
amerpundit on August 29, 2008 at 6:55 PM
Really gong to be interesting to see how the National Organization of Women (NOW) spins…
IE, are they for Womens RIGHTS and Equality? or are they for Abortion, and thusly will not support Palin.
Romeo13 on August 29, 2008 at 6:55 PM
true feminists in the sense they want equality will…..gender warriors who want free bennies…not so much.
YOUNGER WOMEN are stronger in this sense than the old bra burners…..
I suspect she will appeal to younger women more than Hillary would.
sven10077 on August 29, 2008 at 6:55 PM
What hillary did was just like this..
http://townhall.com/blog/g/0ead114f-3bca-4d39-9c93-1df34de1c9e2
Chakra Hammer on August 29, 2008 at 6:56 PM
Janet Napolitano is sitting there thinking, “that’s not what I learned in my women’s studies classes”.
jdpaz on August 29, 2008 at 6:56 PM
Great Scott,AllahPundit,and Ed are in gatling gun
thread and update,and re-update mode,guys,so excellent!
canopfor on August 29, 2008 at 6:57 PM
Excellent point.
Spirit of 1776 on August 29, 2008 at 6:57 PM
I wish she would have been my Governor too….Instead I get the Liberal and useless one sitting next to her in this video!!!!
azcop on August 29, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Ha! Move over Chuck Norris, it’s Sarah time!
Sarah Palin can not only strangle you with her bare hands, she’ll bake a pie and bring it to your wake afterwards!
gator70 on August 29, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Team McCain note!
ninjapirate on August 29, 2008 at 7:01 PM
Yiu’ve got two Femenazi’s who might of thought that the
sisterhood was going to be united,———————————————HELLO,Sara-Cuda is a Republican Women,so
she’s got logic,instead of poor wittle me,Emotional!!
You have to plough through that,yup,like a Caterpiller D-9,
drop the blade,and push through the Liberal crap!!!
canopfor on August 29, 2008 at 7:04 PM
oops again,I’m on a roll,should be You’ve!!Ugh!
canopfor on August 29, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Quoted for genius:
Though, I think she’d bring mooseburgers instead of cake.
——-
I again whip myself for doubting her. That is a hornet’s nest issue that she deftly handled with class and honest. I want Palin in the White House tomorrow.
Damiano on August 29, 2008 at 7:06 PM
And that, my friends, is a true American woman.
Lily on August 29, 2008 at 7:06 PM
Off subject…does having dual citizenship make a difference for Obummer.
oldgoat on August 29, 2008 at 7:08 PM
i guess my analogy was a little off comparing Hillary complaining about sexism and Obama preemptively calling racism.
Hillary did have an argument, however.. not sure she herself should have been complaining about it.
Chakra Hammer on August 29, 2008 at 7:09 PM
Since you asked …
darwin on August 29, 2008 at 7:11 PM
A real feminist and a true American! :)
Dariaanne on August 29, 2008 at 7:11 PM
And and…. another plus..
She has 5 children, so she is used to dealing with large numbers of crying children… ie… she should be able to handle Congress pretty well…
Romeo13 on August 29, 2008 at 7:11 PM
She’s a big girl, she HAS to know that the left is not going to try to damage or defeat her, but they are going to try to destroy her and make her wish she’d never been born…they will go after her husband and children, too…she seems battle hardened so I’m sure she’ll be fine, but man oh man this IS going to be the ugliest election of my lifetime.
Street smart Chicago thugs v. Western Mavericks…just like the wild wild west, my friends, and yee-haw, who always won?
JustTruth101 on August 29, 2008 at 7:12 PM
I don’t think this is a worry. They’re pretty tough in Alaska. I worry that Palin might start manhandling Biden.
progressoverpeace on August 29, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Wow…. I actualy didn’t see that coming… talk about hypocrasy…
Backing a 35 year MALE Congressman, over an Empowered Woman…
Wow… just…. wow…
Romeo13 on August 29, 2008 at 7:14 PM
WHINING,TRUTH to POWER!!
This is so priceless,smart,savvy,and it really gives meaning
and just screams the real definition of,
A R T I C U L A T E.
canopfor on August 29, 2008 at 7:14 PM
Does anyone else feel a bit old for being younger than two of the four candidates?
GoodBoy on August 29, 2008 at 7:15 PM
No surprise. They did the same for Willy Jeff, impugning women to save his butt.
progressoverpeace on August 29, 2008 at 7:15 PM
I’d PAY to see that!
tickleddragon on August 29, 2008 at 7:17 PM
Abortion is the only real issue for the NAG gang. They’ll attack her mercilessly and call her every name in the book.
And to top it off, she’s good looking. Democrat/libtard women are rarely attractive (and the hatred they exude doesn’t help any). The NAG’s are pretty much all “facially challenged” and they’ll hate Palin for it.
drunkenmaster on August 29, 2008 at 7:17 PM
That’s what this country is about, how you can succeed, despite naysayers. There will ALWAYS be naysayers that say you can’t do something because of your race, your gender, etc. A true American is one that ignores all that and proves them all wrong on their own merit. (”You gotta plow through that…”) Not one that Obama wants where the govt. steps in to help because he doesn’t think people can succeed on their own. How sad that he does not have faith in the country that brought him to where he is today. I think America’s finally going to get her pioneer spirit back, the same spirit that brought us to the moon, helped us get to the technological era, formed the 50 states, and won through all sorts of wars and strife.
Tuari on August 29, 2008 at 7:17 PM
palin looks an awful lot like John McCain’s first wife, drunken.
alphie on August 29, 2008 at 7:19 PM
I read the trollish remark and lookie who it is..
Chakra Hammer on August 29, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Sarah Palin does not use the word “sexism” herself. Also, I reject the notion that Hillary has been anything less than a ruling class in the MSM eyes.
She literally said that she was holding out just in case Barack Obama got assassinated. NO Republican would have a career left after what her and Bill unloaded on Barack Obama.
Hillary was not the victim of sexism. She was a victim of Bill’s sex-is-him.
The Race Card on August 29, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Me neither, especially with Biden’s “my wife is hot; too bad she’s smart” comment.
Damiano on August 29, 2008 at 7:20 PM
“I don’t think this is a worry. They’re pretty tough in Alaska. I worry that Palin might start manhandling Biden.”
That’s my worry, ’cause then the Dimocrats will be villifying her by saying “How can she do that to that poor old man”.
Once she takes care of Jumpin’ Joe, she’ll be referred to as ‘that bitch’. Just wait.
GarandFan on August 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Sarah Palin’s so tough that looking like a drunk McCain she kicked the wind out of Barry and made him spit his nuts out through his stomach….”
keep on trucking Ralph
sven10077 on August 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Ok, Alphie.
The Race Card on August 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM
come on NOW backed Barry “hey sweetie” oops may have been inartful O’bama…..
sven10077 on August 29, 2008 at 7:22 PM
palin…..,drunkin.
alphie on Aug 29,2008 at 7:19PM.
alphie: I like you here alphie,so don’t resort to the name
calling,c’mon,thats how you’ll get your #ss banned!!
canopfor on August 29, 2008 at 7:23 PM
Pointing out Palin looks like McCain’s first wife is trollish, Chakra?
Seems rather Freudian to me.
Let’s hope the serial hugger can keep his hands to himself for a couple months.
alphie on August 29, 2008 at 7:23 PM
A lot of professional females, who have had to cringe through the entire Clinton era and who can’t understand how Hillary became the poster girl for female achievement, will find that kind of talk very refreshing.
Infidoll on August 29, 2008 at 7:23 PM
After listening to the few clips from today, I am even more impressed with McCain’s pick of Palin. I don’t think that she will have many gaffe’s during the campaign because she believes what she says and states her position clearly and confidently – as opposed to virtually every other politician who have to continually twist their position to say what they think the audience wants to hear (Obama).
chromium on August 29, 2008 at 7:24 PM
“palin looks an awful lot like John McCain’s first wife, drunken.”
alphie on August 29, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Come on alphie, that the best ya got? No “C” word, No “B” word?
GarandFan on August 29, 2008 at 7:24 PM
I know a woman like this… I married one just like her. In fact, my very conservative friend raised the question; would you follow this woman into combat and take orders from her?
In short, yes. A fighter is a fighter.
Claypigeon on August 29, 2008 at 7:25 PM
I dig it.
Sarjex on August 29, 2008 at 7:25 PM
I could’ve sworn I remembered you recently trashing McCain for “leaving his wife”. Now she’s just a drunk.
So which is it? Or do you just make up stuff as you go along? (not that we don’t already know)
drunkenmaster on August 29, 2008 at 7:26 PM
The “Saracuda” nickname that is.
Also yeah, I dig she’s where she’s at because she’d earned it. Sorry Lefties… Hillary wouldn’t have gotten anywhere if her last name had been different.
Sarjex on August 29, 2008 at 7:26 PM
Merit got Barracuda where she is; not any of the typical affirmative action B.S.
Somehow, I get the feeling that she won’t be playin’ the victim card…
RocketmanBob on August 29, 2008 at 7:27 PM
I leave it to McCain to call his wif…er mate the c word, Garand.
He’s done it before, after all.
“drunken” was the name of the poster I was replying to, btw…
alphie on August 29, 2008 at 7:28 PM
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is evidence of achievement based on character and not race or gender.
Damiano on August 29, 2008 at 7:28 PM
Anything is possible, this is one thing I think highly unlikely. Palin seems to be a self reliant doer, not a beggar of others to fix problems she has. If she encounters sexism during this race, she’ll be more likely to kill it, drag it home, skin it, cook it and have friends over to a party to feast on it rather than whine about seeing it.
Dusty on August 29, 2008 at 7:30 PM
The “whining” dilemma is one fundamental problem with some feminists today. One the one hand, they want to be treated as “equals” (equal pay, Title IX, etc.), rather than lesser or inferior beings.
On the other hand, they want special preferences (”affirmative action”) for perceived or real wrongs, and not necessarily wrongs done to them, but to women in the past.
They use whichever argument fits the situstion, but are not, in the long run, consistent in what they want, unless “equal or special, whichever benefits me most” is a consistent position.
Women like Palin are like Clarence Thomas. “Yeah, we were treated horribly in the past. But moving forward, ask to be treated equally, and act like it, and no more. But no less, either. And no whining.”
Wethal on August 29, 2008 at 7:31 PM
In short,yes.A fighter is a fighter.
Claypigeon on Aug 29,2008 at 7:25PM.
Claypigeon: On point,no doubt,well said!:)
canopfor on August 29, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Forgot to add, “eh, I got nuthin.”
silverfox on August 29, 2008 at 7:32 PM
TROOL ALERT: ‘alphie’ the shriveled hag is on the prowl, throwing up the Usual drunken retard insults.
The skank can’t even spell, and has the grammar of a fifth-grader.
Going from the Bad & Ugly to the Good, Palin shows every inicdation that she can Take the Heat. Wacthing the MSM news shows tonight, flipping the channels showed all 3 plus Chicken Noodle News anchors saying exactly the same thing:
inexperienced yada yada yada, mayor of a small town, yada yada yada, heartbeat away from the Presidency……….
They left out her policies, her beliefs, her accomplishments, her character, her obvious ability–
I’m stunned that the media would overlook that; stunned
Janos Hunyadi on August 29, 2008 at 7:34 PM
Haha, what a rube.
alphie on August 29, 2008 at 7:37 PM
troll alert, although “trool” sounds good for alphie
( I’m being drawn into her Vortex of slurred idiocy )
Janos Hunyadi on August 29, 2008 at 7:37 PM
The more you see the more you love.
Poor ole hair plug, he is going to get eaten up.
Kempermanx on August 29, 2008 at 7:37 PM
Hmmm…
Trool…. drooling Trool?
Romeo13 on August 29, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Gahhh…. I c an’t speeeeelll eider… LOL…
drooling TROLL!
Romeo13 on August 29, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Good Point!
becki51758 on August 29, 2008 at 7:43 PM
This is the effect that alphie has on people: the closer you get, the more of a stupid drunk skank you become
‘drooling troll’ is good, though……
Janos Hunyadi on August 29, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Somehow I don’t see Sarah Palin playing the victim when she gets attacked. She’s no girly-girl.
sarahk on August 29, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Maybe I shouldn’t give away the big secret here but Palin is not a feminist, she’s a conservative. That’s why we like her.
Maxx on August 29, 2008 at 7:45 PM
Sarah’cuda
ManlyRash on August 29, 2008 at 7:45 PM
ha ha…what an idiot Lib.
ManlyRash on August 29, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Obama, elitist, was an unaccomplished high school senior provided with an ivy league education only to thieve tax money to line pockets of attorneys who further lobby and funnel multiple millions of dollars of misappropriated tax money and charitable contributions and grants to line pockets of corrupt board members, individuals and organizations that provide nothing but grief to the needy and elderly citizens of America.
This elitist Obama has the nerve to disrespect accomplished women. Indeed, he has never forgiven his tramp of a mother who dropped him off with white gramma instead of black Kenyan gramma, AS IF Barack would rather have grown up Kenyan!
Those elitists supporting the Obama Elite Campaign now prove their unworthiness to represent America by attacking parents of Down syndrome children, pushing them all into a home closet or attic to hide from public view, discriminating against their contributions to public service, bigoted against both parents and children.
maverick muse on August 29, 2008 at 7:54 PM
I’m impressed … a classy answer that made her point in a
concise manner without making it sound like a personal attack on Hilary … I hope she holds up throughout the campaign …
I was so bummed with McCain as the candidate, but am ginning up some enthusiasm now … Palin and Jindahl offer hope for
conservatism’s future …
Paul
pbary on August 29, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Sarah Palin is an accomplished human being. So what if she’s a hottie?
drunkenmaster on August 29, 2008 at 7:56 PM
Sarah Palin is the most extraordinary of gifts. I’m still thanking our lucky stars that she’s completing McCain’s ticket for a strong America! Palin is a magnificent person, and a great woman. She need not feign any feminism or feminity as she IS by innate grace and determined experience a fantastic woman leading in the new century and THE woman of this electoral moment.
maverick muse on August 29, 2008 at 8:02 PM
He’s with me, swimming in The Tank, after I asked him to jump in.
leftnomore on August 29, 2008 at 8:05 PM
Are you saying Sarah Palin is “The One” muse?
alphie on August 29, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Nancy, stay home and retire! We don’t trust you, don’t like you, and we won’t have you dragging us under any longer. Pelosi has that evil character streak, injuring her own children in order to gain more attention for herself: Madame Speaker of the Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy House.
maverick muse on August 29, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Nancy Pelosi threatens to drill the heads of American citizens in need of more domestic energy. Pelosi blatantly endorses lobotomy against any critic.
Those who denounce torture are the first to arbitrarily inflict torture against innocent citizens for exercising a difference of opinion or even the law abiding right to exist. The DNC chickens are coming home to roost.
maverick muse on August 29, 2008 at 8:14 PM
As per “The One”, read criticisms of pessimists on Allah’s other thread.
maverick muse on August 29, 2008 at 8:17 PM
Women don’t generally enjoy being called names…even if the name is the condescending, sexist, “sweetie”.
capitalist piglet on August 29, 2008 at 8:18 PM
LMAO!!! No doubt!!
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 29, 2008 at 8:26 PM
Apparently, as long as you support “Women’s Rights” (Read: Abortion), it doesn’t matter WHAT you say.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 29, 2008 at 8:29 PM
Rookie mistake #1 perhaps…she needs every Hillary supporter she can get, and calling out their candidate for whining…well…
not a big error, but an error all the same.
funky chicken on August 29, 2008 at 8:38 PM
You can smell the fear emanating from the Left already. The talking points have been put out and the Moron Mainstream Media is flowing the script with their usual lack of intelligence and best of all the trolls are in full dungeon.
This is how you can tell that Palin is an excellent choice. It is amazing to see the mind numbed robots of the left acting like lemmings mouthing the words put out by the Obama campaign.
dtrumpet on August 29, 2008 at 9:04 PM
I’ll be looking for team Obama to start crying when she comes back with a hard right cross…
taznar on August 29, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Because we won’t be getting back the ones Hillary stole?
lutherjw on August 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM
I don’t think it’s completely out of the question that Hillary might be quietly (but not officially) encouraging the PUMAs to support PALIN . She has to be some P.O.ed about the OBAMA camp caucus fraud and intimidation used in AT LEAST 15 (so far ) STATES. There is video and statements starting to get onto the net. WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED is just part of it. When BO is not elected the house of cards falls apart, DEMs will be trying to escape the collapse. Meanwhile when TONY REZKO realizes BO will not be able to pardon him out of jail, he’s going to scream like a little girl about the CHICAGO MACHINE.
bigmike on August 29, 2008 at 9:47 PM
I don’t think she will worry about what the loony left say…she’ll just throw another moose burger on the bbq.
HornetSting on August 29, 2008 at 11:30 PM
I just hope those in the media will understand the difference between a “perceived whine” and a firecracker with a snappy comeback.
The Ugly American on August 29, 2008 at 11:34 PM
We’ve had so many useles Governors in Arizona, I’ve lost count. Oh, for a Governor with vision! My Kingdom for a Governor with vision!
Mr_Magoo on August 29, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Even O’Reilly is caught up in the inexperienced yada yada. He needs a horse (or moose) tranquilizer until the elections are over.
Mr_Magoo on August 30, 2008 at 12:02 AM
ya know: she speaks better extemporaneously than obama….
reliapundit on August 30, 2008 at 12:09 AM
I was roaming around Amm Althouse’s blog. The dregs are posting there. Most are disgusting pigs. I guess that’s what feminism gets you.
Mr_Magoo on August 30, 2008 at 12:50 AM
I’m not quite so hard on Janet myself. I too live in AZ. But I found myself thinking did Janet ever complaign that being a woman caused harsher critism? And I don’t ever remember her doing that. And yeah I think some of what she gets is sexist. Hillary did complain or at least her staff did. I think bringing attention to it is fine. But better done by someone else.
Before I knew who Janet was a guy I know who is high in Repub. circles here was describing her and he said, ” Just wait until you hear her voice! She sounds like a man!” I think Janet’s voice is fine. I think that was a sexist thing to say. I disagree with her and have been really mad at her but… I don’t dislike her.
And then you probably know all the rumours they try to get started about her… I don’t think it is fair.
petunia on August 30, 2008 at 1:52 AM
I don’t think it’s completely out of the question that Hillary might be quietly (but not officially) encouraging the PUMAs to support PALIN . She has to be some P.O.ed about the OBAMA camp caucus fraud and intimidation used in AT LEAST 15 (so far ) STATES.
I actually think there may have been PUMAs encouraging him to pick her. I thought Gerraldine was very coy about voting for Obama. There are some pretty mad women overthere weighing the option to punish the party for the way they were treated. I think they are worried about how pro-life she is…. or it would be a slam dunk!
As it is revenge may win out. But I think she could be a force for quite awhile. And they couldn’t control her like they do the women in their own party.
petunia on August 30, 2008 at 2:00 AM
Seeing’s how she plays basketball…If you dive to the basket and get fouled, you take your free throws. If the Obama campaign pulls anything really nasty, it’s a flagrant foul and they get even farther behind in the game. The whining about racism is, of course, a technical. And the more the Obama team tries to put the heat on her, the easier it is to pass out to McCain for a jump shot through the “experience” hoop. I’m not worried.
Math_Mage on August 30, 2008 at 4:18 AM
Cute. You didn’t answer his question. Or I guess you actually did. You just throw idiotbombs. Must be nice to never have to actually use your brain.
Squiggy on August 30, 2008 at 6:53 AM
alphie on August 29, 2008 at
I’m still faily new here. Is alphie what you guys call a “troll”? Is that like a fly in the ointment or a skunk at the garden party?
SKYFOX on August 30, 2008 at 9:31 AM
That’s “fairly”, you bumble-fingered oaf.
SKYFOX on August 30, 2008 at 9:32 AM
Yes, our AZ governor is to femininity what Barney Frank is to macho.
jgapinoy on August 30, 2008 at 9:42 AM
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