The obligatory “Jimmy Carter says McCain’s milking his POW experience” post; Update: Obama camp to “milk” Biden’s son’s Iraq experience?
posted at 7:34 pm on August 28, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Having accused him of this myself just a few days ago, I’m in no position to throw stones. But enough people are e-mailing the link that I guess you guys want to talk about it, so here you go.
When did this site become the Jimmy Carter defense fund?
Former president Jimmy Carter called Republican presidential candidate John McCain a “distinguished Naval officer,” but said the Arizona senator has been “milking every possible drop of advantage” from his time served as a prisoner of war in Vietnam…
“John McCain was able to weave in his experience in a Vietnam prison camp, no matter what the question was,” said Carter, a 7-year Naval officer who served aboard submarines. “It’s much better than talking about how he’s changed his total character between being a senator, a kind of a maverick at the time, and his acquiescence in the last few months with every kind of lobbyist pressure that the right wing Republicans have presented to him.”
While we’re on the subject of milking military service for advantage, check out the beginning of his speech at the convention four years ago. No word in the USA Today piece, unfortunately, on whether the meme about McCain’s wealth has been beaten deep enough into the ground yet by the left to qualify for “milking” status, but he does helpfully note that if Obama loses a close race it’s because of racism. Exit question: What if Obama wins a close race?
Update: Be wary of the Prowler, as they have a habit of turning up quotes that seem too good to be true, but here’s what they were floating a few nights ago:
Biden’s other son from his first marriage is scheduled to be deployed to Iraq in early October, an event the Obama campaign has factored heavily into its early October campaign schedule.
“Biden is very well aware that his son’s deployment is going to be a big part of what we do in October. It’s part of our narrative and we’re going to milk it for all it’s worth,” says one of the Obama advisers. “Republicans would do the same.”
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And to think that this man was once the President of the United States.
How very sad.
Marking Time on August 28, 2008 at 7:37 PM
even scarier to think he worked on strategic nuclear submarines….
sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 7:38 PM
Where’s a rabbit when you need one?
If Obama wins a close race? It’ll be in spite of those evil racist Republicans, racist to the core, who are racist and evil, I tell you.
And then, the “reeducation camps so no one will ever have to face questions of their race again except the Joooooos” will open, and voting for McCain is prima facie evidence you need to go there for at least ten years.
Vanceone on August 28, 2008 at 7:38 PM
You’d think Jimmy Carter would avoid talking about Americans held hostage overseas at all costs.
Big S on August 28, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Well at least Jimmy’s consistant, every time John Kerry mentioned Vietnam, Jimmy was all over him.
What?
He wasn’t?
Oh, sorry, my bad.
Tony737 on August 28, 2008 at 7:41 PM
carter blows
trailortrash on August 28, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Hey Jimmy, thanks for the modern state of Iran. It’s a gift of your legacy that keeps on giving.
RobertInAustin on August 28, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Why, don’t you know, Allah? That’s a mandate. (Or, to harken back to 1948, a landslide.)
calbear on August 28, 2008 at 7:42 PM
But you’re not a former President. Decorum.
progressoverpeace on August 28, 2008 at 7:43 PM
My collie says:
Poor pathetic sap — that trip he made to inspect Three Mile Island fried his brain.
CyberCipher on August 28, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Carter has been milking his pathetic presidency for years now.
Disturb the Universe on August 28, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Nice coming from the WORST president of my lifetime.
TroubledMonkey on August 28, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Peanuts, Peanuts, get your Peanuts here…..
I think I’ll buy some buttered Popcorn instead to watch the show.
Tin Lizzy on August 28, 2008 at 7:44 PM
No Israel bashing is proof he wasn’t quoted accurately.
Marcus on August 28, 2008 at 7:44 PM
I’ve got a cool hip chat room going in honor of Obama if anyone wants to come!
http://rightwingsparkle.blogspot.com/
Rightwingsparkle on August 28, 2008 at 7:46 PM
I think Jimmys off his meds again.
Mojack420 on August 28, 2008 at 7:46 PM
“What if Obama wins a close race?”
No this is a black and white election. One side is going to win in a landslide. Also I denounce myself for the black and white thingy.
mred on August 28, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Yeah Jimmy, If I was you, I would talk about someone
else, just as long as we didn’t talk about your disastrous time as President.
christene on August 28, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Poor guy, he still thinks he is president.
Vashta.Nerada on August 28, 2008 at 7:48 PM
Jimmuh, mah man, you ain’t seen nuthin’ yet. Wait ’til Bad Ol’ McCain starts milkin’ your Iran hostage crisis and odd/even gasoline rationing when he tells us to drill here and drill now!
Remember Malaise and the Misery Index?
Enough comments from the peanut
galleryfarmer. Let him disappear into a Disco Inferno.Steve Z on August 28, 2008 at 7:49 PM
“Thoughtful” news analysis from a week after a close Obama win: “Presidential race demonstrates progress, lingering problems with race relations”
omriceren on August 28, 2008 at 7:52 PM
People I wish would shut the #*%! up:
1. Jimmah
2. Obama
3. Huckabee
Disturb the Universe on August 28, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Ease up on poor ol’ Jimmah. He’s trying to establish a strong legacy….other than ‘worse president evah!’.
BTW, ya’ll know that the Jooooooooooss are responsible for all the worlds problems. Just ask Jimmah.
GarandFan on August 28, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Jimmah’s not obligatory. He’s egregious.
Keep on talking about experience in relation to Obama. I love it.
Dan Collins on August 28, 2008 at 7:54 PM
The south will be accused of racism if Obama loses? It certainly won’t be because the south is basically conservative and will not elect a liberal from the NE or Illinois. Nope. It will be because whites in the south won’t vote for a black. ::eyeroll::
Sue on August 28, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Who cares what this man says?
Terrye on August 28, 2008 at 7:56 PM
Either way, if you don’t vote for The One, you’re a racist.
Oh, and those who are better than you also say you’ll be voting against your own best interests.
CliffHanger on August 28, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Amen to that! :)
Dariaanne on August 28, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Go die, Jimmah
Sir Andrew on August 28, 2008 at 7:58 PM
What I remember about Carter, besides the Iranian hostage crisis and odd/even gas days, was Carter saying that the presidency had become more than just one man could handle. Paraphrased, of course.
Sue on August 28, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Oh no he di’ent!
silverfox on August 28, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Carter has only his own service experience to go on.
Look at what benefit that provided his Presidency.
Carter is the poster boy for worst Pres, evah competition!
Carter’s so stupid he brings attention to himself.
Speakup on August 28, 2008 at 8:00 PM
Yeah, except for senator’s , governor’s, congressman, sheriff’s, mayor’s, judges, school board members and every other elected office.
The people will put a negro in ever elected office in the south except the office of POTUS simply because they are raciest.
RobertInAustin on August 28, 2008 at 8:00 PM
Well put.
Simply perfect!
TheSitRep on August 28, 2008 at 8:00 PM
What did he say at his speech the other night?…oh yeah, they never asked him to speak. The first living president not to speak at a convention.
Jimmy, you let our men sit in a hell hole while you destroyed our economy.
The best part of living through your miserable presidential years, is we ended up with Reagan.
Gas shortage, double digit inflation, double digit interests, hostages, allowing men to be killed, farmers going out of business, military budget slashed, Russia being empowered, failed peace talks, backing down from Korea…nothing you created was good.
How dare you attack any patriot, any…you miserable old fool.
Go sleep with your Chavez and your other dictators you so admire you disgusting worthless dried up useless political hack.
right2bright on August 28, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Jimmy Carter is milking his failed presidency.
Spirit of 1776 on August 28, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Did you know that John Kerry served in Vietnam?
Funny how Carter is now an example of the Clinton legacy. It seems that former Presidents refrained from getting in deep against their parties opponents in subsequent elections from their terms in office. But, since Bubba has been out on the trail trashing Republicans and Hillary’s opponents, the new precedent is set. Jimmah’s being a good little soldier for the Democrat party. How noble of him.
Mallard T. Drake on August 28, 2008 at 8:04 PM
I think you were wrong to diss McCain for talking “too much” about his service, AP. I sure as hell think that doddering, senile old ex-peanut farmer is wrong to do so.
Of course I also think Osama Obama is wrong for not talking about his relationship to Rezko, Ayers and all of the other terrorists and criminals he has surrounded himself with, but for another reason.
All Jimmuh has to his credit is hostages, Iran, mean ol’ rabbits and a “peace” pledge that went nowhere.
MrScribbler on August 28, 2008 at 8:04 PM
How much did you ever hear from
Nixon
Ford
Reagan
Bush I ?
Hell, You hear more from Clenus and Jimmah than you do from the current President.
For the love of Pete!
TheSitRep on August 28, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Why shouldn’t McCain milk his time in as a POW for all he can? He spent more time there than Obama has spent in the senate.
Scrappy on August 28, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Poor o;e Jimmy is jealous cause all he had to talk about was his “lust”.
Herb on August 28, 2008 at 8:05 PM
If he had been where McCain was as a POW, Carter wouldn’t have lasted 15 minutes.
Carter should keep his comments behind those big teeth of his.
pilamaye on August 28, 2008 at 8:06 PM
We care, because everytime he speaks, it reminds (or we can remind people) this is what a real liberal president looks like, this is his accomplishment.
They haven’t pushed him aside because the are saving him for later. The dems don’t want him out in front.
We want him out in front so people won’t forget.
right2bright on August 28, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Jimmy has always given me the creeps. Along with most of his family.
JonRoss on August 28, 2008 at 8:08 PM
And they were both the first to break the rule of criticizing a sitting president.
right2bright on August 28, 2008 at 8:09 PM
You know what?
As the only president to have a tripe double (inflation, unemployment, and mortgage rates) don’t dismiss his wizened statement.
jukin on August 28, 2008 at 8:10 PM
Jimmy C. is right. Mac has been milking his POW status, to good effect - so far. Trouble is he can’t seem to drop it when needed, like when he needs to not look self-pleasing..to..himself. (did I just write that?)
Carter was an awful President. He’s actually quite a good Man, and I fully respect him for that.
trailboss on August 28, 2008 at 8:10 PM
WTF is the matter with Jeemuh???
1)Senility
2)Dementia
#2 caused by too many years of drinking the liberal Dem Kool-Aid !!
RocketmanBob on August 28, 2008 at 8:11 PM
Everybody can be right sometimes. Mr Carter is possibly right to remind Mr McCain about this; being a brave POW is an interesting and useful bit of additional experience for PotUS, but not a reason to be given the job.
YiZhangZhe on August 28, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Has McCain REALLY talked up his POW experience that much ? I must have missed it all. It is mentioned every once in a while but it doesn’t seem overbearing. And why shouldn’t he be allowed to mention it since it is such a part of who he is ?
JonRoss on August 28, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Jimmy Carter?
Jimmy Carter?
Who the hell is that?
madmonkphotog on August 28, 2008 at 8:13 PM
Who let the Dems’ crazy uncle out the basement?
Even the Left Wingers have to be embarrassed by this guy:
* 21% interest rates
* Gas lines and shortages
* Killed nuclear power in the U.S.
* Handed Iran over to the nutjobs
* Let US hostages rot in Iran for 444 days
(Iran freed them within minutes of Reagan’s inauguration)
* Flubbed the Desert One rescue mission
* Recruited and armed Bin Laden as an anti-USSR mujahideen
* Gave away the Panama Canal
* Treasonous dealings with Castro, Arafat, Tito, Il-Sung,
Ceaucescu, Chavez, etc.
* Created the Dept. of Education
* Won a Nobel Prize… a sure sign of Anti-Americanism
Thank God, there were no Supreme Court openings during his tenure
VastRightWingConspirator on August 28, 2008 at 8:13 PM
<blockquoteExit question: What if Obama wins a close race?
Daily Kos the next day: Thank Gaia we managed to overwhelm the Bu$hHitler vote stealing machines.
Speedwagon82 on August 28, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Does anyone know if B. Hussien could pass an FBI check to get a job at the Pentagon or the Secret Service or other such jobs ? This could really be the first time that a person not eligible for even a low security clearance is elected POTUS.
JonRoss on August 28, 2008 at 8:17 PM
Isn’t it about time that someone had that brain dead old fool committed? Nothing, absolutely nothing can compare to the the physical and mental pain Mcain has endured. Only sick bastards like Carter and his disgusting political party would attempt to use that experience against him. The left is terminally sick and this country is infested with social rot.
rplat on August 28, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Maybe the GOP or McCain can use Jimmah in an ad - listing what VastRightWingConspirator lists as his “accomplishments” and comparing that to what would happen if Obambi were elected. Carter = Obama. Sure would like to wipe that smile off Jimmah’s face, maybe get his blood pressure up!
Neocon Peg on August 28, 2008 at 8:20 PM
You’ve got a little chocolate milk on your lip there, James. Now excuse me while I wait for the next tribute to Dr. King.
Ronnie on August 28, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Spot on! +20
Neocon Peg on August 28, 2008 at 8:25 PM
I’m beginning to suspect that Jimmy’s just not very smart.
Knuckledragger on August 28, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Jimmy Carter was one of, if not THE worst President of the United States. Now, he is a disgrace as a former President. He really should settle down in the home.
afotia on August 28, 2008 at 8:32 PM
Jimmy Carter was and is a disgrace. Despicable POS.
Oink on August 28, 2008 at 8:37 PM
I think that says it all.
Glynn on August 28, 2008 at 8:45 PM
I’m telling you, the liberals are having a nervous breakdown over this. They cannot handle a Republican who has Absolute Moral Authority.
rockmom on August 28, 2008 at 8:47 PM
Actutally, he does refer to it quite a bit- too often in my opinion. Carter is a douche about it, but he’s not completely wrong here- McCain needs to cut back a little with the POW references.
Hollowpoint on August 28, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Can’t we put him in a home already????
HornetSting on August 28, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Peanuts, anyone?
Glenn Jericho on August 28, 2008 at 9:06 PM
The POW card at least equals the race card. I’m sure McCain would be happy to put his away if Obama did likewise. Think that will happen?
rockmom on August 28, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Everytime he opens his mouth. . He’s like a kid
saying a cus word and looking around to see if anyone heard it. Go write a book Mr. Carter or build a house
or spent a few minites in the same
cellpit McCain spentfive years in.
Texyank on August 28, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Good old Jimmy still milking his ego and his stupidity.
burt on August 28, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Jimma sat on his hands for years while Americans were prisoners of Iranian satanists. Jimma is on sinking sand saying anything about McCain’s imprisonment.
This country was in a deep malaise during his administration and “stagflation” was crippling to the average working American and painful for anyone looking for work. Jimma and Billy Winkie were the two worst presidents of the 20th century.
saved on August 28, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Leave Carter alone!
Obama says it’s a tiny country.
jgapinoy on August 28, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Will this man never go away? He’s done more harm as an ex-president than he did as president. And that saying something. What I remember most about his presidency were the “Judas with a kiss, Carter with a smile” bumper stickers. At least he can say he was the third best president of the 1970s. That bronze right?
Tommy_G on August 28, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Don’t forget, McCain’s son James has also served in Iraq.
DubiousD on August 28, 2008 at 9:42 PM
“Biden is very well aware that his son’s deployment is going to be a big part of what we do in October. It’s part of our narrative and we’re going to milk it for all it’s worth,” says one of the Obama advisers. “Republicans would do the same.”
Wrong, McCain has never traded on his son havong served in Iraq nor his other son at Annapolis. If this is true, it just reinforces my thoughts that Biden is a scumbag.
The Opinionator on August 28, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Poor little Jimmy thinks he still matters to the American public.
UnEasyRider on August 28, 2008 at 9:49 PM
They obviously are pointing to all the times McCain has used his son’s service as a political tool…oh wait he hasn’t.
theguardianii on August 28, 2008 at 9:53 PM
ZING!!!
twoarmman on August 28, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Democrats, on the whole, have an extremely difficult time drawing analogies and drawing moral equivalents.
McCain’s capitalizing on his military service is understandable. Biden’s capitalizing on his son’s military service is strange. McCain has two son’s in the service, the younger son has served one (maybe two?) tours, and yet he’s been almost silent about their service.
Leave it to the Dems to capitalize vicariously only on someone’s military service.
Screw Carter. I would have served if I’d been drafted in 1979, but I would have been drafted only because Carter made us weak. I’ll never vote for a weak-a** Democrat as long as I live. And Obama’s cut from the same cloth.
Listening to the beginning of Obama’s film, he said his grandparents weren’t complainers–then why is he and why is he a Democrat. I really loathe this guy.
BuckeyeSam on August 28, 2008 at 10:05 PM
I used to think that, too. I used to say it a lot, actually. But I no longer feel that way about him. He is a melancholic megalomanic who so micromanaged his presidency, that he would waste thousands of hours of his staff’s time to find out where storm drains emptied. So suspicious and paranoid was he, that he refused to share valuable information with his staff and often made decisions simply by his own accord. His appeasement during the Iran hostage crisis set the scene for what we are dealing with the Middle East today. His total lack of respect for the office of the presidency led him to break with tradition and continue on his globe-trotting monster visiting and president bashing. I feel that the evidence has shown him to be a definite antisemite. No, I no longer think of him as a good man. He is a deeply troubled and conflicted man, still bitter because he did not win a second term and he will do anything in his power to change his legacy. Sadly, he has, only not in the way he wished.
Glynn on August 28, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Um… no they wouldn’t it demeans the service the troops are doing to make it political. Neither party should be doing that.
highhopes on August 28, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Someone should inform the Obama camp that all of McCain’s sons have or will have served in the military. Not to mention one has already been deployed to Iraq, and his youngest is due to graduate from the Naval Academy.
ViperPilot on August 28, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Makes me ashamed of my last name…(no relations, thank God)
d1carter on August 28, 2008 at 10:57 PM
John McCain and his military sons are alpha males. Jimmy Carter is a pathetic wuss who should be laughed at every time he appears anywhere.
Phil Byler on August 28, 2008 at 11:15 PM
John McCain had a son serve in Iraq, and he isn’t “milking it”. So, no Republicans don’t do that, arsehole.
James on August 28, 2008 at 11:23 PM
On the leftist blogosphere, they really dig into McCain’s POW experience. It is very sad. These same places, if you criticized Kerry you were maligned.
James on August 28, 2008 at 11:58 PM
I thought Carter was dead?
JK. He’s just dead to me.
Geronimo on August 29, 2008 at 12:14 AM
One of the most ignorant things Carter said right after Brezhnev invaded Aftganistan is that he was shocked by what the Soviets did. Anyone who has read the communist manifesto realizes that Brezhnev and his fellow patriots eventually want a communistic world. They were for starting “wars of liberation” everywhere and ultimately making the world socialist. Carter was not smart enough to see through all this and stupidly said he was “shocked when the USSR invaded Aftganistan. When I was in the eight grade i at least knew what the Russians goal was and Nikita Khruschev made that clear.
garydt on August 29, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Deeds, not words.
Mojave Mark on August 29, 2008 at 1:22 AM
Jimmy Carter = National Embarassment
SuperCool on August 29, 2008 at 3:35 AM
Beau is the Delaware attorney general and a captain in the Army National Guard and will be deployed as a JAG.
Not to be too much of a prick, I can say with some certaintainty that the younger McCain is in a considerably more direct role. He enlisted in the active duty Marine Corps and is currently a non-NCO in the groundpoundingest of groundpounders.
Full disclosure: I say this as a prior service E in the MC, with a brother on AD.
flashoverride on August 29, 2008 at 6:11 AM
I stopped listening after Jimbo’s misery index…may be a little harsh but next thing I want to hear about him is his epitaph…and good riddance.
PatriotPete on August 29, 2008 at 10:15 AM
This is sad, really sad, and he called Obama a black boy. People know in the south, that is demeaning so who really is Jimmy Carter? I don’t recognize this man, the one who has no respect for the office he once held. If it is a question of saying anything that pops into his head, perhaps his folks should do something about putting a filter on that mind - mouth thing.
Dr Evil on August 29, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Sarah Palin’s SON is going to Iraq in September… a month before Slow Joe’s son is going there…. I’m just sayin…
originalpechanga on August 29, 2008 at 11:26 AM
John McCain was in a prison camp longer than carter was a president but who has milked his former situation the most and who has dishonored his past status?
HaileTsada on August 29, 2008 at 1:39 PM
Yes Joe, let’s hear you play up the fact of your son going to Iraq, as a JAG. Meanwhile McCain’s son has been in Iraq for quite a while and Palin’s son is an enlisted soldier. Yes, play it up Joe you shallow bastard!
kongzilla on August 29, 2008 at 2:37 PM