Poll of GOP delegates: We want Romney!
posted at 5:37 pm on August 28, 2008 by Allahpundit
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No surprise that he’d top the list given how high his profile is, but Huckabee’s high-profile too and he actually ended up with more delegates than Mitt did.
Even so, note the margin:
Romney was chosen by 38 percent of delegates in a new CBS News/New York Times poll, far ahead of the second place finisher, former Arkansas governor and presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, who was selected by 7 percent of delegates attending the Republican National Convention in St. Paul.
Tom Ridge, the former Pennsylvania governor, and Tim Pawlenty, the Minnesota governor, were each selected by 4 percent of delegates surveyed. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and Alaska Governor Sarah Palin were each selected by 2 percent.
Joementum? In with a breezy one percent. I don’t think we’ll have to wait much longer for resolution: Marc Ambinder claims that the VP pick has already leaked to Fox News, which, if true, surely means we’re getting it tonight to maximize the scoopiness of it. Exit question: On a scale of one to ten, how exciting is a VP Romney? Exit answer: Four.
Update: Hutchison says it’s not her, and that she thinks it’s Romney.
Update: A question raised by this post from Steve Kornacki. Karl Rove’s known to be high on Romney, which is political poison for McCain insofar as it links him back to Bush if he ends up putting Mitt on the ticket. Is Rove touting Romney for precisely that reason — because he secretly thinks Romney would be bad for the ticket and is trying to taint him with his own endorsement? Surely Rove’s savvy enough to know he’s not doing Mitt any favors this year by pushing him.
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Zero!
I am not excited nor do I care.
upinak on August 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Eight
Baphomet on August 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM
9
ordi on August 28, 2008 at 5:40 PM
DO NOT WANT
pseudonominus on August 28, 2008 at 5:41 PM
1.
I’ll give him that cuz at least it’s not Leiberman or Huckleberry
AntonDomi on August 28, 2008 at 5:42 PM
7
backwoods conservative on August 28, 2008 at 5:42 PM
And that’s from somebody who (more or less) agrees with him!
Big S on August 28, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Excitement is overrated.
Dick Cheney is’t Mr. Excitement, but he can still shoot you in the face or garrotte you with a look.
I’m about a 6 with Romney.
sulla on August 28, 2008 at 5:42 PM
1
Browncoatone on August 28, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Forget excitement. How about scale of 1-10 as helpful (& not hurtful). 7 or 8.
Spirit of 1776 on August 28, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Romney would top my list, but I don’t think Mac likes him to much.
Borislav on August 28, 2008 at 5:42 PM
2
JeffreyLloyd on August 28, 2008 at 5:42 PM
7
God Bless America!
Califemme on August 28, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Wrong: the answer is 8. If Romney is the choice, the base will be energized immediately and the most important aspect of the campaign will begin: the organization of the voter drive. Obama greatest asset will be his experience in getting people out to vote, in addition to the likely influx of more African American voters. Plus, he will make three states lean toward McCain immediately: Michigan (father was popular governor), Colorodo and Nevada (where both states have high populations of Mormons).
RedSoxNation on August 28, 2008 at 5:43 PM
5. It doesn’t excite me much but doesn’t piss me off either. Romney would be a good VP but I’m afraid that his primary attacks on McCain and his wealth would be used against the ticket by the Dems.
keepinitreal on August 28, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Total 1 with Romney. As someone said in one of the other posts here, he’ll be a pinata for the Obamacans.
lansing quaker on August 28, 2008 at 5:43 PM
I think Mac respects him after CPAC.
Spirit of 1776 on August 28, 2008 at 5:43 PM
5.
And if so, I hope Schmidt has a good strategy for countering the charges that McCain/Romney can’t connect with ordinary voters that’s more than just showing that Obama connects even less. I think that can turn out being a very important issue with the swing vote and the McCain campaign will need to make their own positive case.
Pianobuff on August 28, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Excitement: 6
Hope for victory in November: 9
Relief that the damn circus is almost over and not a moment too bloody soon: 11
sulla on August 28, 2008 at 5:44 PM
I’m with this. Excitement, not much of anything right now. Then again, I might just be burnt out from all the speculation.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 28, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Dude, at least 7. With the way this election year has gone, and with what we know about McCain, Mitt would be a very welcome development indeed, worthy of at least four points by itself, without factoring in what Mitt brings to the ticket.
Weight of Glory on August 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM
11. Dorky answer, but I’m really hoping it’s Mitt!
JA on August 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Allah, Huckabee got SEVEN more delagates because he stayed in the race three months longer than Mitt.
You are comparing Apples and Fried Squirrel
Elizabetty on August 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM
4 for Romney.
10 for Palin.
10 for Thompson.
1 for Pawlenty.
jencab on August 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM
I would give Romney an 8. He’s not as exciting as Palin, but he could probably take down Biden in a debate. Besides, didn’t Obama want to talk about ISSUES a few months ago? Romney could talk rings around Obama about issues!
Steve Z on August 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM
I live in Michigan, and trust me — even if he’s a former Governor’s son, it won’t ignite the ticket.
Michigan just had DeVos run for Governor, and the DeVos name is all over every building in Michigan’s second largest city. He lost — hard — to Granholm who was skating on thin ice.
I don’t think Romney will help with Michigan in any way, shape, or form.
lansing quaker on August 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM
I’ll give the exit answer a solid 6. It’ll cause a lot of buzz because of how heated their competition was during the primaries. Romney is the right pick.
Ordinary1 on August 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Much better scale.
Weight of Glory on August 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM
I’m sure my wife would agree with you. I think I’m killing her interest in the campaign with my obsession.
Pianobuff on August 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM
6, because 666 is the sign of the devil, and his religion says that jesus and satan were brothers!
/huckabee
lorien1973 on August 28, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Romney is VERY exciting.
His brain is like a steel trap and he studies all the issues and seeks the counsel of wise people.
It has been a BLAST to watch him on all the TV shows this week just tearing apart Obama and Biden.
Elizabetty on August 28, 2008 at 5:48 PM
My favorites would have been Palin or Jindal but I think they both need a little more experience under their belt first.
keepinitreal on August 28, 2008 at 5:48 PM
I fear too many people have accepted the Karl Rove model of elections (excite the base!) as the best one. The thing is, even an excited minority of voters still loses. Keep a close eye on the convention polls – Obama’s probably getting a bounce of 6-10 points after all is said and done, while Kerry got little to nothing in 2004. If Obama does get a decent bounce, it’s likely that undecided centrist voters are going to make the difference this year, and the Rove model will not work.
Big S on August 28, 2008 at 5:48 PM
lansing I agree. Not looking good anymore.
Brace for Obama-nation.
upinak on August 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM
I can’t imagine why he would want Pawlenty. That would be a rather boring pick, although Pawlenty is a good guy and all.
I say Bobby Gindal.
Borislav on August 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM
I don’t need excitement, I need someone who can win voters on domestic issues and viciously tear down the fake image upon which Obama stands.
Is there really anyone more capable than Romney for these tasks?
Melchiz on August 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Yes he will because he thinks it sucks that Dems have served you all so poorly. He wants to bring Michigan back to her former glory.
Elizabetty on August 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM
I’ll bet Rove already knows who the VP is.
Pianobuff on August 28, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Lansing, since you live in MI.. who has been the fave in the Republican aspect there?
upinak on August 28, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Oh Allah…you pot stirrer you…
I now predict 800 posts…
And…..go!
hot-heir on August 28, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Bidens wealth is no small egg…his neighbors are the DuPonts, he lives in the wealthiest area of Delaware, and he doesn’t have to worry about his lobbying son, seems he got a couple of mill from companies who worked over his dad.. Obama’s nest egg is okay for a “community organizer”, and his wife got a few bucks from some choice lobbying efforts.
I doubt the Dems want to get into this pissing contest…
right2bright on August 28, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Yeah, but DeVos founded.. wait for it… Amway! Now THAT’S a tough sell!
Ordinary1 on August 28, 2008 at 5:50 PM
I think Romney is easily the best choice! He has had time to come up with responses to all the lines of attack the Dems will roll out. He will get conservatives who are right now on the fence to vote for McCain. He has private sector and economic experience. He will help win Michigan and much of the West. He will help tremendously in organization and fundraising. He would destroy Biden in a debate. He will help keep McCain “on track” once in office. Many people would be very disappointed if he isn’t picked…including myself.
davenp35 on August 28, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Bobby Jindal with a J.
He does not want the job. He wants to be the gov of LA and told McCain not to consider him for VP.
Elizabetty on August 28, 2008 at 5:50 PM
I’m very curious to see just how Huckabee reacts to the Mitt Romney VP announcement. He’s been all over the TV the past 48hrs campaigning against Romney as if his life depended on it (if only we could be so lucky). I saw him on Colbert last night. When I woke up this morning he was on Fox. It was as if he stayed on my TV screen throughout the night just to rant against Mitt. Such a terrible image to fall asleep/wake up to.
There is something very eerie to me about Huckabee’s relentless and weird desire for power. That man makes me very uneasy. Its as if he’s a foot soldier for Satan himself (duck for cover).
Zetterson on August 28, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Romney is a 10
hanzblinx on August 28, 2008 at 5:51 PM
How about a sliding scale of the best person for the job? You want to get excited; go watch a skin flick…
liquidflorian on August 28, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Due to the new scoring system, the correct answer is: 6.455
You have to factor in the degree of difficulty with that pick. A Romney pick has a low degree of difficulty compared to a Leiberman pick. (Execution points would be lower with Joementum, however).
sleepy-beans on August 28, 2008 at 5:52 PM
8, he’s the best and most probable choice.
Geronimo on August 28, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Of course it’s Romney. I been sayin that for months now, I think.
Seixon on August 28, 2008 at 5:52 PM
I’ve also been wondering if, in Michigan but probably no other state, Romney could uniquely position McCain as the real candidate of change.
Pianobuff on August 28, 2008 at 5:52 PM
9 only posible choice at this time.
CaCa on August 28, 2008 at 5:52 PM
3. I just think the democrats will use the rivalry of the two to their advantage.
Trov on August 28, 2008 at 5:52 PM
This is a NYT/CBS News Poll, and we’re taking it at face value? What happened to our healthy skepticism?
meci on August 28, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Huckabee will support the ticket even if Romney is VP.
keepinitreal on August 28, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Power line says that McCain has not made his choice yet and will not be announcing until tomorrow.
Terrye on August 28, 2008 at 5:53 PM
1/2, and that’s just because it’s not Lieberman or Ridge. I did however vote for Romney in the primary only because Thompson was out by then and I didn’t want McCain.
Rose on August 28, 2008 at 5:54 PM
You do realize that John McCain is on the top of the ticket. Don’t you?
Zetterson on August 28, 2008 at 5:54 PM
I suspect there will be a flash followed by a mushroom cloud that will engulf Arkansas. Then there’s St Olaf, the blood from his head exploding will surely put out the fire.
Geronimo on August 28, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Romney is a 10!
davenp35 on August 28, 2008 at 5:54 PM
I still think the argument has to be more than “they’re worse” and that a positive case needs to be made for McMitt on this particular point.
Pianobuff on August 28, 2008 at 5:54 PM
LMFAO HAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAA! +10
upinak on August 28, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Tom Ridge is out as well. Liebermann doesnt seem to be the pick either.
Mitt is still in California.
Still betting its Cantor.
William Amos on August 28, 2008 at 5:55 PM
It makes sense to the average bear but McCain loves to stick it to conservatives every chance he gets.
If he does pick Romney it will go a long way towards starting to heal some of the damage the Mav has done.
Elizabetty on August 28, 2008 at 5:55 PM
that’ll probably disqualify him from McLame’s point-of-view.
I will grudgingly vote for McCain/Romney. I would not vote for McCain/Schmuckabee or McCain/Lieberman, etc.
Romney is about as left as McCain can go and keep my vote.
oh,… if only…
ah, the face-shooting that could take place…
urbancenturion on August 28, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Huckabee is a nice guy, but he needs to quit trashing Romney. It’ll ruin his nice guy image if he continues. :-)
Ordinary1 on August 28, 2008 at 5:56 PM
For the most part there is just a large anti-Obama/pro-Republican sentiment. Not excited about McCain, to boot.
As for the Veep:
Most people I’ve talked to are resigned to Romney getting it, but don’t like him one bit. Pawlenty and Palin are more the ones being thrown around as “better picks,” with me selling Palin to everyone I can.
I wish Palin had been more talked about, because when my friends and family research her (”Alaska-wha?!“) they really like her.
So I while they’ll never vote O, my R friends aren’t stoked on Romney. My Clinton friends are mostly PUMA and disaffected. Selling them on Palin, too, but I think they’ll drop McCain interest with Romney.
Granted, these are all my PERSONAL ANECDOTES, so I’m not trying to speak for the whole state. lol.
lansing quaker on August 28, 2008 at 5:56 PM
McCain/Juan Hernandez ‘08!
Gregor on August 28, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Not surprising from someone who has been negative about Romney all along but the difference between picking Romney and picking someone else is the difference between winning going away and losing. I guess that’s not too exciting for you.
peacenprosperity on August 28, 2008 at 5:56 PM
McCain released an add chidding Obama for not picking Hillary when so many Democrats voted for her and wanted her on the ticket.
Who is calling for Cantor to be put on the ticket? Romney has worked damn hard for McCain and Cantor has not.
It makes no sense for him to pick Eric now.
Elizabetty on August 28, 2008 at 5:56 PM
A Romney pick may not be exciting, but, I’m not so sure I want my candidates picked based on who gets people the most excited after the announcement. I’d like them to pick the best convergence of candidate qualifications and electability.
It’s anecdotal, but, my only experience with anyone that was going to vote based on the novelty of a VP candidate is as follows:
In 2000, my little brother (who was going to be voting in his first election) called up my mom and asked her which president had the Jewish guy as a running mate because he thought it would be cool to vote for a historic candidate. My mom told him it was Bush/Cheney. My staunchly liberal father spent the rest of the day trying to get my brother on the line to tell him that it was actually Gore/Lieberman he should be voting for. In the end, it didn’t matter, because my brother decided to go get pizza with friends instead of voting.
The kinds of voters that will get excited about a novelty candidate are the kinds of voters that don’t usually vote.
*Note: I’m not implying that Joe Lieberman was a novelty candidate. I’m also not saying that Palin, Jindal or any of the other people being pushed are novelty candidates. I’m simply saying that anyone that would vote for McCain ONLY because he picked a woman or an Indian or a Jewish guy as VP are the same people that are likely to be too busy to vote on election day.
JadeNYU on August 28, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Here is another view:
Weight of Glory on August 28, 2008 at 5:57 PM
The average voter couldn’t care less about Karl Rove or what he thinks as either a positive or a negative.
Sackett on August 28, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Who were all those people in Michigan who voted for him in the primary then?
Elizabetty on August 28, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Very cool, thanks for the over sight. I had a feeling (other then my MI friends) others felt the same way.
Makes me wonder about it.
upinak on August 28, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Seriously? Huck was badmouthing Romney on Colbert and Fox?
sulla on August 28, 2008 at 5:59 PM
If it IS Romney, can we put a cage around St. Olaf and the rest? Of all the various advocates for the VP, only the Huckabee types are proclaiming their guy is it, no question.
So when it’s not, how do we talk them off the cliff?
Vanceone on August 28, 2008 at 5:59 PM
Mitt – 14!
10 points for Mitt, 4 points for Mac, one for every year he’s gonna be in office.
Mitt / Palin ‘12!
Tony737 on August 28, 2008 at 5:59 PM
Tell them Huckabee can fly!
upinak on August 28, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Romney is intelligent, professional and the most “presidential” of the lot, IMHO. The only thing is, can he draw more votes than he repels?
He’s certainly miles better than either of the two Democrat clowns. I can’t see Mitt with Spinal-Tap style stage props. Every time I think of the Obamanon, I see little elves dancing around, almost knocking it over.
mr.blacksheep on August 28, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Romney’s saying it’s not him and he’ll be in Mass. tomorrow:
amerpundit on August 28, 2008 at 6:00 PM
9.
Ronnie on August 28, 2008 at 6:01 PM
With all the speculation over the VP pick, we know that he or she needs to be in Ohio by tomorrow morning. If Romney was in Michigan or Massachusetts, he could get to Ohio on a two-hour flight.
If it’s Palin, she had better leave on a red-eye flight soon! Has anyone seen her in Alaska lately? How about you, “upinak”?
Of course, if the VP pick is John Kasich, he could DRIVE to meet McCain, and nobody would notice…
Steve Z on August 28, 2008 at 6:01 PM
He’ll support the ticket in the same way Bill and Hill support Obama. On the surface its all smiles and handshakes, below the surface he’s sneaking poisonous snakes under the covers. I think as soon as Mitt is announced as VP, Huckabee will immediately begin stirring the pot with his small, loyal group of Evangelical Mormon haters. There is serious bitterness flowing out of Huckabee as he hops from TV show to TV show with the sole intent being to shout “boo Mitt”.
Zetterson on August 28, 2008 at 6:01 PM
I work with a lot of Conservative Christians from Michigan. I wonder what they’ll say? Why did so many of them move here to Arizona?!
Ordinary1 on August 28, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Regarding Palin:
This is representative of some of the discussion going on one of the more thoughtful left blogs where (ideology aside) I respect many of the posters as being quite reasoned
“The ‘ethics’ issues are blown out of proportion. It was one firing of a cabinet position that serves at her discretion. The trooper who she supposedly really wanted fired still works for the department and is a creep of the first order. Just do some reading. Word on the street is that she will be cleared very soon and her approval numbers are still in the mid 80’s.
Other than that, which is rumored to be her political enemies taking a shot, she is known as a reformer. She has fought coruption in he rown party already to much fanfare, beating a corupt gov for the position after he failed to listen to her calls about coruption when she was head of another government agency. BTW: when he didn’t listen to her she resigned.
Look her up and it will put the fear of the GOP into you. Her personal story is compelling, she is very popular with the conservative wing of the party, is backed by Gingrich and Limbaugh, is already slated to speak at the convention and has indeed submitted vetting papers. (not to mention McCain’s vetting team was seen twice in Juneau) We hear a lot about her here in British Columbia.
She would help McCain with women (she is a member of feminists for life) and on energy. I like her a lot despite disagreeing with her on much. She is fiesty and doesn’t take crap from anyone. If he chooses her we are in trouble. “
Hmmmmm….
Pianobuff on August 28, 2008 at 6:01 PM
One thing in Romney’s favor is that Cindy McCain and Ann Romney are very good friends.
I wonder if Cindy has enough pull with John to make it happen?
Elizabetty on August 28, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Yeah and don’t forget about Rush’s show during the afternoon. His job right now is to campaign against Romney for VP. Its quite strange if you ask me.
Zetterson on August 28, 2008 at 6:02 PM
9. All we’ve been hearing about for months is the economy, and to not choose the guy who is head and shoulders (literally?) above all the others makes little sense to me.
This suspense is so much better than the text msg nonsense.
Dubn8tr on August 28, 2008 at 6:03 PM
So is that a Biden, “I’m not the guy” or do you think he means it.
Weight of Glory on August 28, 2008 at 6:03 PM
This is from a memo that apparently the Romney campaign put out early this year. Something kind of tells me that McVain has probably not picked Romney. But I could be wrong.
1) Defending His Amnesty Bill, Sen. McCain Lost His Temper And “Screamed, ‘F*ck You!’ At Texas Sen. John Cornyn” (R-TX)
2) In 2000, Sen. McCain Ran An Attack Ad Comparing Then-Gov. George W. Bush To Bill Clinton.
3) Sen. McCain Repeatedly Called Sen. Pete Domenici (R-NM) An “A**hole”, Causing A Fellow GOP Senator To Say, “I Didn’t Want This Guy Anywhere Near A Trigger.”
4) Sen. McCain Had A Heated Exchange With Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) And Called Him A “F*cking Jerk.”
5) In 1995, Sen. McCain Had A “Scuffle” With 92-Year-Old Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-SC) On The Senate Floor.
6) Sen. McCain Accused Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) Of The “Most Egregious Incident” Of Corruption He Had Seen In The Senate.
7) Sen. McCain Attacked Christian Leaders And Republicans In A Blistering Speech During The 2000 Campaign.
8) Sen. McCain Attacked Vice President Cheney.
9) Celebrating His First Senate Election In 1986, Sen. McCain Screamed At And Harassed A Young Republican Volunteer.
10) Sen. McCain “Publicly Abused” Senator Richard Shelby (R-AL).
MB4 on August 28, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Not one word on Palin in the news today. I believe she is still in Alaska.
Kasich is suppose to cover the GOP convention for Fox News so dont think its him.
Romney last I heard was in California but he abruptly left and isnt known where he went.
I cant find Eric Cantor in the news at all.
William Amos on August 28, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Romney just took a dive on InTrade. Pawlenty up 28.
dmarie on August 28, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Steve I work down the way from the Atwood building. I can go see if Sarah is in the “office” if you want me too!
upinak on August 28, 2008 at 6:03 PM
What is that source? Never heard of that website before.
Elizabetty on August 28, 2008 at 6:03 PM
If it’s Pawlenty then I’ll have to get educated. I don’t know a lot about him. Palin would be cool! Kay Baily too, but she says no.
I still hope it’s Romney. Good solid choice. Strong on the economy. Good debater.
Ordinary1 on August 28, 2008 at 6:05 PM
I suspect that is not far from the truth.
Zetterson on August 28, 2008 at 6:05 PM
Michigan had low primary turnout in general. I voted in the Democratic primary, myself (Clinton) because I’m an independent voter and — sorry — like Hillary. I’m one of those “blue collar” guys that the press keeps talking about.
Lots of the O supporters I knew were voting for Romney to “mess with” the Republicans’ primary since “The One” messed up the Democratic side.
I’m sure Romney has strong support amongst a lot of Republicans. But there’s a lot of R’s that don’t like him much, and a hell of a lot of Dems that HATE him, which is why the Hillaryites over here are liking McCain.
Just trying to call it as I see it. But I’m also not the most hardcore conservative out there, and don’t associate much with far-right or far-left types.
lansing quaker on August 28, 2008 at 6:05 PM
Eric Cantor
The Rising Star?
William Amos on August 28, 2008 at 6:06 PM
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