Obama’s gravitas man confuses military terms

posted at 7:36 am on August 28, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama added Joe Biden to the ticket to give him some much-needed gravitas on foreign policy and military affairs.  Biden gave an indication of how successful this might be by managing to confuse the terms battalion and brigade in his acceptance speech at the convention last night.  Most amusingly, it came while Biden attempted to argue that it was John McCain who was militarily incompetent:

Speaking at the Democratic National Convention about Sen. Barack Obama’s foreign policy judgment, Biden stated that Obama has advocated for two additional battalions in Afghanistan.

In fact, Obama called for two extra brigades – a small verbal slip, but a significant numerical one. A brigade is composed of a varying number of battalions. Biden’s prepared remarks included the correct term.

Well, Biden does bring something different to the ticket; Obama can read a teleprompter.

Even beyond this embarrassing gaffe, Biden goes off the rails with this speech.  Afghanistan was actually in better shape three years ago than it was last year.  Notice that Biden doesn’t mention Obama’s “judgment” on Afghanistan in 2005 to compare it to McCain’s; he mentions 2007.  A series of force reductions by other NATO members, changes in strategy, as well as a really foolish appeasement plan from Pervez Musharraf in 2006, helped allow the Taliban to recover and worsen the situation.

So yes, no one was talking much about Afghanistan in 2005.  I commented often about how that conflict had mostly disappeared from the mainstream media, and it was because at that point, the effort had gone well.  John McCain made the same comment, and he was right.  Both he and Barack Obama were right in 2007, when the situation deteriorated to the point where the NATO command got the boot and new strategies were put it place to use much more aggressive tactics against the Taliban.

As for McCain’s alleged support for a disastrous strategy in Iraq, that’s so untrue as to be outright laughable, almost as bad as Biden’s use of battalions for brigades.  McCain started warning of the strategic errors taking place in Iraq in 2005, and pushed for the “surge” for years before it was finally implemented in 2007.  Biden’s running mate opposed the surge and claimed it would create even more violence and destabilization, and to this day can’t bring himself to admit that McCain was right and he was wrong.  Had Obama been in charge at that point, we would have run away from Iraq and allowed it to collapse into a failed state, and a haven for the terrorists we defeated.


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But He has a higher IQ than me. He thinks.

Gwillie on August 28, 2008 at 7:38 AM

Here’s a question: What happened to Clinton’s every vote counts position?

Last night, Obama didn’t get the votes. He was ‘declared’ the winner.

The DNC will screw their own to get what they want. And soon, America will be taking it up the wazoo for their pleasure, because our votes don’t count.

madmonkphotog on August 28, 2008 at 7:41 AM

To paraphrase what I posted elsewhere, I don’t see this as a big deal… true – 35 years in the Senate, voting on military maters (hell, at least budgets) should leave Biden a little better prepared than the average lawyer to speak about military units…

darkpixel on August 28, 2008 at 7:43 AM

Well, Joe Biden actually had a rare bout of honesty truth be told. The reason the optempo is so high is politicians like him have cut the size of the force vis a vis 20 years ago by more than half so what he was meaning to say was:

“our policies have been so effective we can only send Battalions in the place of what once would have been brigades that we have all the flow we’ll ever need for operations, so join me in supporting Barry “don’t be saying me middle name laddie” O’bama so we can make the military 33% even more efficient.”

sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 7:46 AM

So the guy who thinks a platoon can be split between two theaters picks a guy who doesn’t know the difference between a brigade and a battalion…

But who needs to know proper military terminology when you’re Zeus!? Can’t wait for the toga party. I wonder when the Animal House/Obama-Zeus video is going to hit…

watchmen on August 28, 2008 at 7:47 AM

I caught that last night and joked to my wife that two battalions weren’t going to do much. He messed a lot up in that speech. It was pretty disjointed.

Obama appearing on stage saved what was heading downhill. The real winners from the convention so far are the Clintons (Bill’s speech was amazing). If Obama doesn’t deliver tonight I think there could be some real buyers remorse among the average voters that he needs to win over.

BadgerHawk on August 28, 2008 at 7:49 AM

You choose to nitpick over specific wrong words, but not those of your own candidate.

So when McCain makees mistakes with Iran, Iraq, Czech REpublic, the simple layout of the world map, etc etc, it’s just a little mis-speak and no big deal, but when Biden says battalion instead of brigade, it’s an “embarrassing gaffe”.

Maybe in his next speech he’ll talk about you guys and use a term like “double standard hilarity”.

Next.

Dave Rywall on August 28, 2008 at 7:51 AM

Had Obama been in charge at that point, we would have run away from Iraq and allowed it to collapse into a failed state, and a haven for the terrorists we defeated.

Yes, but more importantly, Barry wouldn’t have been embarrassed.

Failure is success in the world of Barry Obama, the first Affirmative Action Presidential candidate.

benrand on August 28, 2008 at 7:51 AM

Maybe in his next speech he’ll talk about you guys and use a term like “double standard hilarity”.

Next.

Dave Rywall on August 28, 2008 at 7:51 AM

Drywall can you tell me precisely which of the 58 states led the “vote by proclamation” for your Messiah last evening undoing 160 years of tradition?

sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 7:54 AM

I guess Biden is what Dan Quayle is to Obama.

grapeknutz on August 28, 2008 at 7:56 AM

Der Gaffenmeister
What a shyster
Dave Rywall
On notice y’all
HA whinemeister

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 7:59 AM

Barry and Pinocchio have precisely zero years of military experience between them.

Just what is needed in a turbulent world.

sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 7:59 AM

sven10077, not to worry. These will not depart soon.

Russia/Georgia will seal the election. Iraq will be a blip, though not an insignificant one.

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 8:02 AM

I was just a dumb grunt, but I know the difference between battalion and brigade.

While they are both ‘b’ words that designate a military unit, if the Senator wants to split hairs over strategic decisions, he should probably get his terminology correct if he wants to win the confidence of undecided voters.

fluffy on August 28, 2008 at 8:03 AM

To be sure, I don’t care that der Gaffenmeister mixed up those two words. It’s the other pap he spewed that will backfire on him and his new ‘camp’.

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 8:04 AM

sven10077, not to worry. These will not depart soon.

Russia/Georgia will seal the election. Iraq will be a blip, though not an insignificant one.

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 8:02 AM

Well I for one am not worried. Barry will use his years of successful “community organizing” to put Putin in his place…..quite literally putting Putin in the White House if need be I’d wager. “uh um uh is this REALLY worth fighting over?”

Him being a viable candidate at all with his paucity of resume tellms me one side could not possibly care less for the nation’s future.

sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 8:05 AM

“We need to pull out of Iraq as soon as possible, leaving just a few squadrons of tanks to maintain a small military presence.”

– Joe Biden

fossten on August 28, 2008 at 8:09 AM

“We need to pull out of Iraq as soon as possible, leaving just a few squadrons of tanks to maintain a small military presence.”

- Joe Biden

fossten on August 28, 2008 at 8:09 AM

I *may* not be a Army War College grad but I did once stay at a Holiday Inn!” Joe “Pinocchio” Biden

sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 8:11 AM

To be sure, I don’t care that der Gaffenmeister mixed up those two words. It’s the other pap he spewed that will backfire on him and his new ‘camp’.

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 8:04 AM

Exactly. The slip of the tongue is innocent enough and not particularly important to me. The amount of spin and outright BS it was taking to paint Obama as being the better candidate on foreign policy is of much greater concern.

backwoods conservative on August 28, 2008 at 8:11 AM

As for McCain’s alleged support for a disastrous strategy in Iraq, that’s so untrue as to be outright laughable, almost as bad as Biden’s use of battalions for brigades.

I’d say it’s far, far worse. One is a gaffe, the other is a complete misreading of the historical record.

Buy Danish on August 28, 2008 at 8:12 AM

Elder statesmen versus Kindergarten?

Fred versus der Gaffenmeister debate? I’d watch that one.

csdeven, you could post lots of comments, and I’d still love ya,

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 8:15 AM

To think that I’d have been happy with Fred as Sec. of State or Press Secretary.

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 8:17 AM

Biden is confused as always!

He was referring to Obama’s crack
squad commando’s that will be stationed
in Iraq 24/7-360,in case of an Iranian
invasion to take over Iraq when Obama
retreats and surrenders from the Middle
East!

And those crack squads are the Temple Troopers
that will be guarding the Ombamassium tonite!
(Sarc!)

canopfor on August 28, 2008 at 8:19 AM

McCain said on Letterman that he and his wife are good friends with Biden and wife, and get together socially, even though they disagree politically on much.

How hypocritical does that make Joey, having lauded McCain for president from the left, or from the right, already, repeatedly. I’d hate to have a friend like that. Wait, I never would be in that situation.

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 8:19 AM

Drywall can you tell me precisely which of the 58 states led the “vote by proclamation” for your Messiah last evening undoing 160 years of tradition?
sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 7:54 AM
—————

Bla bla bla acclamation bla bla bla who cares whatever.

Biden looks stupid for mixing the terms up. I’m the only one around here who holds both candidates accountable for unacceptable verbal fu*k ups. Biden should have known better and should have his sh*t together.

As for you, you have zero objectivity. But that’s okay – if you did it would make the kool aid not taste as good.

Dave Rywall on August 28, 2008 at 8:20 AM

What about Romney as Chief of Staff or Sec. of Energy?

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 8:20 AM

Batalions, brigades, company, platoon, squad, squadron, flotilla, armada…..whatever. We need more of our guys with guns to kill more of their guys with guns.

I’ll leave it up to the professionals to decide what they want to do.

Inspiring confidence since 2008….Obama/Biden. Because the world can be a confusing place.

moxie_neanderthal on August 28, 2008 at 8:21 AM

Dave Rywall, you missed that I gave Biden a complete break on the mixup of the to “b” words. I also didn’t give McCain a break on the “I don’t know how many houses I have”. Keep it straight.

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 8:22 AM

As for you, you have zero objectivity. But that’s okay – if you did it would make the kool aid not taste as good.

Dave Rywall on August 28, 2008 at 8:20 AM

Kool aid is not partial to just one party! It’s heavily consumed in all. I await some objectivity from you now.

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 8:23 AM

Like I said, you pick up any dictionary, and look up the phrase “pompous ass”, and you will find Joe Biden’s picture right next to the definition.

pilamaye on August 28, 2008 at 8:25 AM

How hypocritical does that make Joey, having lauded McCain for president from the left, or from the right, already, repeatedly. I’d hate to have a friend like that. Wait, I never would be in that situation.

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 8:19 AM

Both Biden and Kerry wanted McCain as Kerry’s running mate. But that was so last election.

Buy Danish on August 28, 2008 at 8:26 AM

Kool aid,

Dave Rywall on Aug 28,2008 at 8:20AM.

Dave Rywall:The Liberals have the secret Kool-Aid,
recipe,its 50% watered down Jonestown
Kool-Aid!

canopfor on August 28, 2008 at 8:27 AM

To anyone with a good amount of military knowledge, it would be hard to fathom how they could mix up a brigade and a battalion.

But then hey, he and his little affirmative action commando never served, but they and their stinky hippie brigades continue to cast aspersions on John McCain’s military service.

NoDonkey on August 28, 2008 at 8:27 AM

Like I said, you pick up any dictionary, and look up the phrase “pompous ass”, and you will find Joe Biden’s picture right next to the definition.

pilamaye on August 28, 2008 at 8:25 AM

Nah, he resembles Pinocchio to absolute perfection. HA has a perfect picture for that. You’ll see it often. Pompous ass is the top one.

Indeed, BD, @ 8:26 AM – hang in there – it’s just getting good. Love your contributions. Best regards,

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 8:29 AM

As for you, you have zero objectivity. But that’s okay – if you did it would make the kool aid not taste as good.

Dave Rywall on August 28, 2008 at 8:20 AM

You came back kind of garbled Drywall saya again over.

Which of the 58 states led the coronation of the Messiah by proclamation undoing 160+ years of Tradition?

sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 8:29 AM

With Bidens minor besmirchment of Military terms,
what would you expect from Hopey and Changeys
definition of “TINY” Iran!!!

A freeaggin nuclear Iran!!!

canopfor on August 28, 2008 at 8:30 AM

Often wrong, but never in doubt.

NoFanofLibs on August 28, 2008 at 8:30 AM

Hillary Clinton NBC Interview January 2007

SEN. CLINTON: — in the spring. We need more troops in Afghanistan. And today Senator Bayh and I have sent a letter to Secretary Gates saying that we need two additional infantry battalions in the south of Afghanistan –

SoulGlo on August 28, 2008 at 8:31 AM

Inspiring confidence since 2008….Obama/Biden. Because the world can be a confusing place.

moxie_neanderthal on August 28, 2008 at 8:21 AM

Classic….maybe work in “redeploying over the horizon since 1975…..”

sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 8:32 AM

McCain started warning of the strategic errors taking place in Iraq in 2005, and pushed for the “surge” for years before it was finally implemented in 2007.

He did? Care to provide some quotes, Ed? The only thing I recall of McCain was the same cry of the left: “more troops, more troops, more troops”. “More troops” was not the “surge”. The “surge” was about COIN strategy, which happened to require “more troops” in order to implement it. But “more troops” for the sake of “more troops” doing the same bad strategy as the previous troops was *not* the answer. I wish McCain supporters would stop saying that McCain was calling for the “surge” strategy. He wasn’t. He called for the same thing that the Left called for: “more troops”.

Again, please provide some quotes from John McCain from 2006-2007 where he asked for anything more than “more troops”.

Michael in MI on August 28, 2008 at 8:34 AM

Hillary Clinton NBC Interview January 2007

SEN. CLINTON: — in the spring. We need more troops in Afghanistan. And today Senator Bayh and I have sent a letter to Secretary Gates saying that we need two additional infantry battalions in the south of Afghanistan –

SoulGlo on August 28, 2008 at 8:31 AM

At that time given the surge the reality is two batts were likely:

a) all that was needed

b) all that could be spared given the optempo for the surge….lots of units just getting home were just starting their reset

c) all that democrats seems to understand….platoon squad brigade battalion division army corps ah hell just send some guys damn warmongering fascists

sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 8:35 AM

I’m the only one around here who holds both candidates accountable for unacceptable verbal fu*k ups.
Dave Rywall on August 28, 2008 at 8:20 AM

You’re not so special as to be the only one. Gaffes are gaffes, and there’s nothing wrong with making fun of them. Very few are going to claim that this gaffe makes Biden unfit for office. We’ll make fun of it for a day and move on.

BadgerHawk on August 28, 2008 at 8:36 AM

So where’s the video of Binden stating that the surge worked…

Juxtapose that on a commercial with Obama stating it would make things worse, and hasn’t accomplished anything…

Keith_Indy on August 28, 2008 at 8:39 AM

Biggest laugher from Biden: “In recent days, we’ve once again seen the consequences of this neglect with Russia’s challenge to the free and democratic country of Georgia. Barack Obama and I will end this neglect. We will hold Russia accountable for its actions, and we’ll help the people of Georgia rebuild.”

Please elaborate, Silk Tiger.

Seixon on August 28, 2008 at 8:40 AM

“We need to pull out of Iraq as soon as possible, leaving just a few squadrons of tanks to maintain a small military presence.”

- Joe Biden

fossten on August 28, 2008 at 8:09 AM

It’s hard to defend the Gaffmeister but on this one he deserves a pass. Battalion sized armored cavalry units are referred to as squadrons, (a throwback to honor army traditions from the 19th and early 20th centuries).

sdd on August 28, 2008 at 8:41 AM

It’s hard to defend the Gaffmeister but on this one he deserves a pass. Battalion sized armored cavalry units are referred to as squadrons, (a throwback to honor army traditions from the 19th and early 20th centuries).

sdd on August 28, 2008 at 8:41 AM

True, BUT I think the mockery stems from the fact that the tanks are not the most effective weapon in a CoIn conflict and require massive infantry support in an urban warfare environment.

The crisis we face as a nation is that exerting our will in low-intensity conflict means the use of light infantry or dismounted Mech Inf. This invariably leads to higher casualties than a full blown fight ala GW1. The “Mother Sheehans” and press undermine our national will over a casualty level we faced on single days in WW2.

ergo can we support the needed ops to win Low Intensity Conflicts unless there is a donk in the Oval Office?

The fourth estate is a fifth column.

sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 8:44 AM

Joe Biden = Post-modern Gabbe Hayes

He’s cantankerous, outspoken, loves abortion and is just great fun to laugh at from both sides of the isle.

Hening on August 28, 2008 at 8:45 AM

BadgerHawk on August 28, 2008 at 8:36 AM

Very few are going to claim that this gaffe makes Biden unfit for office. We’ll make fun of it for a day and move on.

Plagiarism, however, lasts a lifetime.

fluffy on August 28, 2008 at 8:45 AM

Gravitwinkle.

Akzed on August 28, 2008 at 8:48 AM

And all of this is just further evidence that military matters are best left to the professionals.

backwoods conservative on August 28, 2008 at 8:48 AM

“Yesterday, Dec. 7, 1941 Sep. 11, 2001 – a date which will live in infamy – the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan. Al Qaeda.

The United States was at peace with that nation organization of community activists and cultural diplomats and, at the solicitation of Japan, was still in conversation with the government and its emperor looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific.”

Joe Biden preparing remarks on Sep. 8 2001

sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 8:50 AM

I for one can never remember the difference, but then, I didn’t spend a couple of decades on the Senate Armed Services Committee either.

MarkTheGreat on August 28, 2008 at 8:52 AM

erm sep. 12th <—–not a troofer

sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 8:53 AM

I am shocked, Shocked!, that you wingnuts would fall for this…DISTRACTION !

So what if Joey B. doesn’t really have any working knowledge of military orders of battle…

He’s got Gravitas, man!

In addition to being RAAAAAACISTS, it’s becoming clear that everyone who reads this site are also gaffe-ists and gravitas-ists as well!

Michelle O! : Y’all better check yourselves, cuz, Barack won’t ever let you go back to being the way you were…He’s gonna make you work [for it]…

RocketmanBob on August 28, 2008 at 8:53 AM

sdd on August 28, 2008 at 8:41 AM

sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 8:44 AM

Sorry to mislead you guys…I made up the quote. I was going for absurdity.

fossten on August 28, 2008 at 8:55 AM

I was impressed how Biden ended his speech saying “God protect our troops” because if he and Obama had had their way God would have been all the soldiers had since they voted against the funding of the soldiers. I wonder how his son would feel going to Iraq if his daddy would have had his way and cut off all funding.
How well does “Beau” use a slingshot?

Jdripper on August 28, 2008 at 8:55 AM

Iraq 24/7-360

They get the week of Christmas off?

MarkTheGreat on August 28, 2008 at 8:55 AM

Are there any clips of Biden saying that McCain would make a good VP candidate for Kerry? If they are, they would make the best commercial yet.

MarkTheGreat on August 28, 2008 at 8:56 AM

Sorry to mislead you guys…I made up the quote. I was going for absurdity.

fossten on August 28, 2008 at 8:55 AM

I could see him saying something that dumb….remember his side are big fans of “fake but accurate”.

sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 8:56 AM

I’m the only one around here who holds both candidates accountable for unacceptable verbal fu*k ups.

I can see that drywall is still not letting reality get in the way of a good rant.

MarkTheGreat on August 28, 2008 at 8:57 AM

drywall is actually a very appropriate name for him. As his brain and a lump of gypsom hold many features in common.

MarkTheGreat on August 28, 2008 at 8:58 AM

True, BUT I think the mockery stems from the fact that the tanks are not the most effective weapon in a CoIn conflict and require massive infantry support in an urban warfare environment.

The crisis we face as a nation is that exerting our will in low-intensity conflict means the use of light infantry or dismounted Mech Inf. This invariably leads to higher casualties than a full blown fight ala GW1. The “Mother Sheehans” and press undermine our national will over a casualty level we faced on single days in WW2.

ergo can we support the needed ops to win Low Intensity Conflicts unless there is a donk in the Oval Office?

The fourth estate is a fifth column.

sven10077 on August 28, 2008 at 8:44 AM

You’ll get no argument from me on what you have said.

Broadly speaking, I don’t believe this current generation has the stomach for a protracted war. The hard core anti-war groups like Code Pink, (who oppose any military action initiated by a Republican president but were no where to be found when Clinton was bombing the Balkans or abandoning US troops in Somalia) along with their fellow travelers, (the MSM) make that impossible through their manipulation of public opinion.

If Obama were female he would be a card carrying member of Code Pink decked out in full regalia. Biden would be wearing a pair of pink boxers.

sdd on August 28, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Maybe we can convince Murtha and Biden to redeply beyond an event horizon.

MarkTheGreat on August 28, 2008 at 9:03 AM

Joey B. :

“That kind of detail is above my pay grade, but not my gravitas grade.”

RocketmanBob on August 28, 2008 at 9:05 AM

Joe Biden was the dunce, is the dunce, will always be the dunce in the classroom or the world stage.

His surname as a verb:

To continue in a state, condition or place.
To wait awhile.
To tolerate.

Bide, bode
abide, Anglican
biden, Teuton

Etymology: Middle English, from Old English bīdan; akin to Old High German bītan to wait, Latin fidere to trust, Greek peithesthai to believe
Date: before 12th century

Merriam-Webster

I’m always curious about origination, and wondering where the name “Biden” traced from Ireland as Gaelic? It’s an English/German surname. But then, St.Patrick was English, escaped from slavery in Ireland, returned as a “Christian” missionary. I’m not putting down St. Patrick. But the Celts had Christian monasteries before the Roman Catholics overtook the Emerald Isle.

Back to Biden the politician, he’s not true to his name unless the “faithful” no longer applies to being Catholic, but to being a Marxist DNC puppet.

“Anything for more.”
politician’s creed

maverick muse on August 28, 2008 at 9:28 AM

Biggest laugher from Biden: “In recent days, we’ve once again seen the consequences of this neglect with Russia’s challenge to the free and democratic country of Georgia. Barack Obama and I will end this neglect. We will hold Russia accountable for its actions, and we’ll help the people of Georgia rebuild.”

Please elaborate, Silk Tiger.

Seixon on August 28, 2008 at 8:40 AM

They’re going to go on vacation to Hawaii, of course.

funky chicken on August 28, 2008 at 9:28 AM

Biden would be wearing a pair of pink boxers.

Would be? Is.

He can’t wait to be asked which he wears, boxers or briefs, so he can show us all and tell us the price he paid and which store, etc.

5 second question
30 minute response (sometimes answer omitted from discourse)

maverick muse on August 28, 2008 at 9:32 AM

Biden-Obama supporters think we’re going to war against Georgia, they are so out of the loop of reality and factual information.

Jay Leno, mouth farter, let it slip out that way last night.

maverick muse on August 28, 2008 at 9:34 AM

Not Biden’s fault. The Welsh call a brigade a battalion.

LibTired on August 28, 2008 at 9:38 AM

If only the surge didn’t happen, then Iraq could’ve been divided up into three pieces as Joe Biden had offered. Baathists would have a country and Jihadists would go home, and peace would have blossomed all over Mesopotamia. ;)

CliffHanger on August 28, 2008 at 10:02 AM

This reminds me of the book “AWOL: The Unexcused Absence of America’s Upper Classes from Military Service — and How It Hurts Our Country” by Kathy Roth-Douquet, Frank Schaeffer. Give it another generation, with fewer and fewer veterans around to remind our citizens of the need for, sacrifices of, and mindset of those serving in the profession of arms. How many younger adults know the difference between a first sergeant and a lieutenant? It’s not hard to neglect a military whose heritage and relevance are forgotten by the citizens for whom it serves.
I’m frankly tired of these folks saying they “Support the Troops.” If they did, maybe they’d do some of these things. But I know they won’t.
“In times of war, and not before,
God and the soldier men adore;
When the war is o’er and all things righted,
The Lord’s forgot and the soldier slighted.”

Send_Me on August 28, 2008 at 10:03 AM

Battalions, brigades…no biggie, really. [Can't expect most members of Congress to understand the finer points of military "jargon."]

The real problem, is that tactics are being discussed openly in Congress, and decisions on tactics are being set in stone by Congress, and Congress is not (according to the Constitution) in the business of conducting war.

Fighting a war, any war, through polls, through Congress, is contrary to what was designed in our Constitution. Warfare is an Executive decision. If Congress doesn’t “like” a particular war…then cut off ALL funding. That is their job.

In the meantime, having a Biden, or an Obama, or a Pelosi or Reid or Kerry, or any member of Congress establishing tactical decisions does only one thing…it enables an enemy, it loses wars. Congress as Fifth Column.

coldwarrior on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 AM

I had to tune out after Biden started the “Obama was right, McCain was wrong on the war” crap. My head almost exploded. The absurdity is amazing, the hypocrisy unreal.

cannonball on August 28, 2008 at 10:45 AM

coldwarrior on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 AM

wow, someone please get this guy a snickers bar or something. Nice job

saus on August 28, 2008 at 12:30 PM

If Biden has been coined somehow as being intelligent, then the Blahblah/Plagiarizer-Joe ticket is in deep trouble!

byteshredder on August 28, 2008 at 1:54 PM