Democratic convention, night four: Eschaton to be immanentized in Denver
posted at 7:05 pm on August 28, 2008 by Allahpundit
We’re fully three hours away from Zeus’s descent from Olympus, but the festivities at the temple have begun so here’s your thread to snark. The schedule’s thin until 8:30 p.m. ET or so, when Gore the Baptist comes forth to herald the arrival of The One. Hotline has a few unexceptional excerpts from an advance copy of the speech and the AP has a bit more. Surely this will be the first time in history that a classical Greek setting serves as backdrop for a catchphrase based on the title of an old sitcom.
I doubt I’ll watch, but video will be here later. In the meantime, two quotes for you to meditate on. Number one: “Here we were eating lunch, and it was like the clouds parted and the sun was shining in.” And number two: “At the CNN bar, where the voice of Wolf Blitzer just said everyone will remember where they were when Obama made his speech.” Exit question: A Stonehenge set would have been awesome, wouldn’t it?
Update: Here’s something meatier to chew on. Is there going to be a convention in Minneapolis next week?
Update: The gauntlet is tossed in the comments. Was “Eight Is Enough” a sitcom — or a dramedy? Let the debate rage!
Update: Here’s the transcript of Obama’s speech. Money line from the nominee of the party that’s trumpeted every last setback and downplayed every last gain in Iraq for the past three years: “I’ve got news for you, John McCain. We all put our country first.” That makes twice now during a momentous speech that he’s rewritten his own side’s history. See his 2004 convention keynote, arguing that “there is not a Black America and a White America and Latino America and Asian America” to a party sick to its core with identity politics, for the other.
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Palin is great…… but is she ready to lead?
El_Terrible on August 29, 2008 at 2:47 AM
I’m just trying to do my part to keep this thing going.
Rick on August 29, 2008 at 2:50 AM
almost at 2300?
El_Terrible on August 29, 2008 at 2:51 AM
What do you want to do with it?
it’s too big to carry and there are a very limited # of .410 shotgun loads that are good for self defense.
It may be a good gun to keep in the car as a anti car-jack tool.
I would load it with:
1 round of #8 shot (first shot easy to get on target lower chance of collateral damage).
2 rounds of #1 shot or 00 buck shot (still zeroing in on the target but more damage)
2 rounds of a good .45 colt JHP {also not easy to find} (finish the bad guy with well aimed fire)
All that goes out the window if their is mor than one attacker.
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 2:51 AM
LOL!! Get out of my head!
Ramlady on August 29, 2008 at 2:51 AM
Has to be posting for “the one”; that or he’s never had the unfortunate experience of having him represent you (in theory) at the state and federal levels.
If he loses, does that mean he won’t be able to represent us anymore? Please say yes. (Civics class was a long time ago-I forget how that works)
tehd on August 29, 2008 at 2:52 AM
Why should it matter to phil who McCain picks for VP as long as he or she conserves aluminum cans and trades them in for cash twice a month, conserves calories by eating low-fat instead of regular ice cream, and conserves trees by talking to them gently and giving them hugs in the morning?
CK MacLeod on August 29, 2008 at 2:52 AM
Barry seems to think he can, with ZERO executive experience – - and he’s running for Prez.
Rick on August 29, 2008 at 2:53 AM
I for one would follow her anywhere!
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 2:53 AM
It’s good to be behind the women’s movement
El_Terrible on August 29, 2008 at 2:54 AM
I agree… this is my only hesitation on her. HOWEVER – I have to remember that we tend to vote for the President, not the VP. We also must keep in mind the alternative. While I don’t know that Palin is “ready to lead”, we KNOW that Obama IS NOT and that Biden is a POS, a liar, etc. etc. etc. As long as Palin can take on Biden in the debate (which I don’t know) she’s my gal. She’s ridiculously hot, which will steal the “attractive” factor away from Obama. Not to mention the publicity stunt it would be to pick “a woman”.
RightWinged on August 29, 2008 at 2:54 AM
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 2:53 AM
YES
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 2:55 AM
Myself. I too would get behind her. Pun TOTALLY INTENDED! YOW!
RightWinged on August 29, 2008 at 2:55 AM
One last thing …
Hats off to the daily show for catching me completely off-guard and taking some serious shots at the dems in tonite’s show (wed).
Unreal.
TiVo it if you can.
cgoode777 on August 29, 2008 at 2:56 AM
One think I forgot to post earlier:
Palin cuts out the “making history” leg from 0bama.
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 2:57 AM
PALIN has more EXECUTVE experience than Obama+Biden+Edwards+Kucinich+Dodd COMBINED…..
PALIN has more foreign credentials than biden (her state borders 2 countries, russia by sea, canada by land)
PALIN has worked with the fed govt endlessly (dont the feds own like 80% of alaska?)
PALIN understands the energy issues, and the price of gas
are you listening gop?? here are your talking points!!!!!
battleoflepanto1571 on August 29, 2008 at 2:57 AM
Rush….lol, no doubt.
javamartini on August 29, 2008 at 2:57 AM
Sounds like good advice. My purposes include: Training young family members then having it around for just the purpose the vid describes (defense in vehicle).
For more than one attacker…what’s the better bet?
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 2:59 AM
Ive been a Stewart fan from day one of the Jon Stewart Show on MTV.
in the past few years he has come down with BDS so I don’t watch him when he starts to repeat himself.
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 3:00 AM
All the vp needs to lead are ribbon-cutting ceremonies and tie votes.
cgoode777 on August 29, 2008 at 3:00 AM
How much $$$ you got???
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 3:01 AM
hilarious PALINMANIA! maniac of the day, from palinforvp.blogspot.com…
“Hey everyone. I’ve been following you guys all day at work and now I get a chance to post. I read a small tidbit about baskin Robbins coming out with a McCain and Obama flavor. One of the reporters on the press plan or bus said he wasn’t sure if there was HEATH in it, which was an off the wall comment for the article. Of course Gov. Palin’d middle name is Heath I believe. Make your own conclusions and I wish I could find that story now. Go look for it! I have to get some sleep so I can be awake for the announcement. Go Palin!”
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/08/28/a-taste-of-straight-talk-aboard-the-mccain-plane/
could mccain be that brilliant? picking out an ice cream flavor that even ties into to his VP?
no, no. it must be something else.
battleoflepanto1571 on August 29, 2008 at 3:01 AM
Palin…she fishes, she hunts, she runs a state that’s critical to our defense, and she’s been merciless with the lazy and the corrupt.
That she’s stark raving beautiful just doesn’t figure into my thinking, Neanderthals.
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 3:02 AM
Romney, he’s a well-rounded guy, and most things he touches turn to gold. He would make a fine leader if, God forbid, something were to happen to McCain.
philnewkirk on August 29, 2008 at 3:02 AM
He’s pretty sure it’s Palin — just not quite clear on whether he heard it on a plane or a bus. Alrighty then.
Ronnie on August 29, 2008 at 3:04 AM
I’m a girl, Obama = not hot.
Obama has kinda a Gollumesque pencil neck.
He scared me tonight when he even mentioned the military. This guy making decisions like that? While in our state senate-several times when he was confronted on a vote, he’d said he “pressed the wrong button” (I think it was around 6 or 7)
tehd on August 29, 2008 at 3:05 AM
more good news from palinforvp site… another longtime poster, seen as reputable by the others, posts:
I just got the following from a Republican source in Oklahoma:
Sarah Palin’s charter plane has just landed in Dayton, OH. Word that Mark from FL and I are getting is that it is a pretty good rumor she will be the VP. Romney is OUT and never seriously considered as McCain cannot stand him — that comes direct from the campaign.
battleoflepanto1571 on August 29, 2008 at 3:05 AM
And, for the record, her middle name is Louise. Her maiden name is Heath.
Ronnie on August 29, 2008 at 3:06 AM
whoops, repeat post.. meant to do the other vp thread
battleoflepanto1571 on August 29, 2008 at 3:06 AM
I’m poor so I like 9mm.
Cheap ammo means more practice.
More practice means more hits.
Only hits Count.
For the family a .22 is the best for new shooters.
And cheap ammo (more practice).
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 3:08 AM
well, it is 3am.. This Neanderthal’s cell is running out of juice but fear not, Bush is still there for a few more months to answer calls at this time…night all!
javamartini on August 29, 2008 at 3:10 AM
A half time show with fireworks?–I really wish dems hadn’t done that. Now if Obama wins this thing both sides will be turning the conventions further into the relm of Hollywood. This can’t be good for an honest debate of issues. I think tonight was a good example of how democrats spend other people’s money. Al Gore was funny when he said Republicans will try to scare you and then proceded to explain why the earth is doomed but the funniest line was when the man without a record to run on said: “If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from”—Barack Obama (D)
Dollayo on August 29, 2008 at 3:13 AM
I agree a Palin pick would totally blow the Biden pick out of the water, but I still don’t know enough about her to say how well she would do in the VP debate with Biden. On the other hand, maybe he would be so charmed by her, he would have his foot in his mouth for the entire debate. Plus, Palin would generate some enthusiasm from the base. I’m ready to get behind her too, just not in the same way you gentlemen are implying! ;-)
Ramlady on August 29, 2008 at 3:13 AM
I just saw the ad at the top of the main page (weekly standard)
Thats funny.
( I’m still awake but my typing skill are starting to fade.)
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 3:13 AM
Well, it seems clear which of the two candidates can keep a secret.
Ronnie on August 29, 2008 at 3:16 AM
How would the PUMA folks like to see Biden picking on a girl???
(I think it’s funny.)
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 3:16 AM
Is everyone else still waiting for the text message?
El_Terrible on August 29, 2008 at 3:17 AM
though i HATE the whole ‘sexist’ thing….
if ‘bully’ joe biden pulls a rick lazio, well,
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/clinton-vs-lazio-in-2000-a-portent-of-debates-to-come/
battleoflepanto1571 on August 29, 2008 at 3:18 AM
My grandkids (six of ‘em) are not new shooters. They’re confident and want to be challenged. Cheap ammo is good (checked out the price of 410 lately?!?)
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 3:18 AM
Verrry interesting, though just because her plane landed there doesn’t necessarily mean she is going there for anything more than conferring with or making a public appearance. Not to be a buzzkill or anything. :)
philnewkirk on August 29, 2008 at 3:19 AM
Like I would give them my cell phone number.
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 3:20 AM
Exactly….I can picture the indignation now!!
Ramlady on August 29, 2008 at 3:21 AM
Interesting.
So do you have one set of clothes or two?
Do you have a doctorate in tolerance or are you self-ordained?
Are you very fit walking and bicycling everywhere to and from your small apartment?
How many channels do you get with your one non-cable TV set?
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 3:21 AM
agreed, though somewhere lost in this thread is that a private jet went from anchorage to tiny muni airport near dayton… and that before it was in anchorage today, it flew from anchorage to flagstaff… ARIZONA.
in addition, there have been 3? posters (including the site owner, i think?) whoe are saying it, and the main guy said “i was sworn to secrecy but this site will be pleased tomorrow at noon”…..
could be a bluff, but it would be awfully ‘maverick-y’
might explain why the trooper scandal came out when it did, to let it die down, or to let the GOP be prepared with rebuttals (“um, the trooper was handing out beer to kids” or whatever he actually did)
who knows, but there’s a hint of maverick-ish in all this.
battleoflepanto1571 on August 29, 2008 at 3:22 AM
I’m good at finding cheap ammo.
I’m sitting on a case of 9mm CCI Blazer that is loaded with 124g Gold Dots. I payed $6/50rds. Today 20 GDs cost $20.
Look for Swedish Mauser in 6.5×55 swede.
6.5 ammo from http://www.samcoglobal.com works out to $7/20rds.
Great caliber I have 3 guns in 6.5.
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 3:27 AM
You are so very unkind. You are describing an ascetic with a wide streak of righteousness!
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 3:29 AM
You made it.
Your name came up in the effort to get to 3000 comments.:)
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 3:29 AM
I’d answer that but I want to conserve letters.
philnewkirk on August 29, 2008 at 3:30 AM
I did what to whom?
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 3:30 AM
philnewkirk on August 29, 2008 at 3:30 AM
Save the Bandwidth!
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 3:32 AM
Thanks. I’m fading tonight, but I have your link for tomorrow.
BTW thanks for popping in earlier on the thread to alert us to the live chat thread.
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 3:32 AM
Her wiki bio reads as much…. ah, the wonders of “anyone can edit”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
battleoflepanto1571 on August 29, 2008 at 3:33 AM
Just as long as you walk the walk and don’t just talk the talk. There are some where their walk is not at all copacetic with their talk, you know.
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 3:33 AM
Yes, you did! LOL!
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 3:34 AM
Did I win anything?
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 3:34 AM
Now in honer of this historic day:
Barack Roll
click it (you know you want to).
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 3:34 AM
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 3:32 AM
glad you saw it.
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 3:36 AM
You win a Barack Roll.
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 3:36 AM
Why a five year old child could understand that comment. Someone fetch me a child of five. I can’t make head nor tail out of it.
- Groucho
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 3:37 AM
Yes, and a pox on those people. Like that one who (correctly) warns about climate change while hopping from speaking engagement to speaking engagement in his private Learjet. :)
philnewkirk on August 29, 2008 at 3:42 AM
I’m ready to get behind her too, just not in the same way you gentlemen are implying! ;-)
Ramlady on August 29, 2008 at 3:13 AM
Why is it that some gentlemen just can’t seem to get that picture out of their heads? (Barbarians, I tell you!)
A commenter on another recent thread pointed out that putting an assertive, good-looking, popular *conservative* woman on the ticket – the kind of woman that brings out the claws (and something rather limbic and primal) of the typical Hillary-supporting feminist – might actually make it harder to attract that voting bloc, than if he simply went with a bland (male) pick. It gave me pause.
RD on August 29, 2008 at 3:43 AM
That sounds rather kinky, but better than a night with Hillary.
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 3:43 AM
Correctly? You have got to be kidding me.
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 3:44 AM
Ah, that video again reminds me of a Conan joke from a few night ago:
“This Thursday, Barack Obama is going to give his acceptance speech and, reportedly, it will include performances by Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen. And they say Obama’s not black enough.”
(Admittedly, Conan is a left-winger, and totally supporting Obama, without question, but this was hilarious)
RightWinged on August 29, 2008 at 3:46 AM
I would hit that… then tell her my politics at the last second.
RightWinged on August 29, 2008 at 3:47 AM
Nope. I believe that global climate change is a serious threat to quality of life and that the government and individuals should take reasonable and responsible steps to curtail its effects before they can be controlled.
philnewkirk on August 29, 2008 at 3:48 AM
Jeebus MB4 you’re taking all teh fun out of this thread. Let me spoon feed you the compliment I tried to pay you.
at 3:21, clearly quoted in my response to you, you snarked:
To which I responded:
I thought you were a nuanced thinker. Or at least that the exclamation point would be the tipoff that my “insult” to you was in fact a frikkin fist-bump. Or…maybe I just unfairly credited you with humour as dry as mine. Where have the Anwar Sadat days gone?
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 3:48 AM
Oh boy, is anyone here a special education teacher?
RightWinged on August 29, 2008 at 3:49 AM
Oops, that should read: “before they cannot be controlled.” It’s late, sue me. :)
philnewkirk on August 29, 2008 at 3:49 AM
And here I thought that I had gone a long time without. I guess no mater how long someone has gone without, there is always someone who has gone longer.
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 3:49 AM
I’M SURE CHINA AND INDIA WILL GET RIGHT ON THAT!
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 3:51 AM
Damn you MB4! Lol!!!!!
RightWinged on August 29, 2008 at 3:51 AM
Oh and before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, here is the 2008 GOP platform on the issue of climate change and its threat to quality of life:
“Increased atmospheric carbon has a warming effect on the earth. While the scope and long term consequences of this warming effect are the subject of ongoing research, we believe the United States should take measured and reasonable steps today.”
philnewkirk on August 29, 2008 at 3:51 AM
And of course we should be following the lead of China, not the other way around… /sarc
philnewkirk on August 29, 2008 at 3:53 AM
Believe in global warming or I’ll beat you with a hockey stick (graph).
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 3:54 AM
I have a link, but for some reason it won’t post.
Climate hysterics v heretics in an age of unreason:
Fear and ignorance, Hume concludes, are the true source of superstition. They lead a blind and terrified public to embrace any practice, however absurd or frivolous, which either folly or knavery recommends.
The knaves today, of course, are the would-be high priests of the global warming orthodoxy, with former US vice-president Gore as their supreme pontiff.
As Hume points out, the stronger mixture there is of superstition, with its ambience of ignorance and fear, the higher is the authority of the priesthood.
As with the Church in the Dark Ages or the Inquisition during the Reformation, they denounce all doubters, such as Evans or Britain’s Gilbert Monckton as dangerous heretics, outliers in Gore’s phrase: or as willing tools of the evil enemy of a healthy planet, Big Oil.
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 3:55 AM
I have a link, but for some reason it won’t post.
Fear and ignorance, Hume concludes, are the true source of superstition. They lead a blind and terrified public to embrace any practice, however absurd or frivolous, which either folly or knavery recommends.
The knaves today, of course, are the would-be high priests of the global warming orthodoxy, with former US vice-president Gore as their supreme pontiff.
As Hume points out, the stronger mixture there is of superstition, with its ambiance of ignorance and fear, the higher is the authority of the priesthood.
As with the Church in the Dark Ages or the Inquisition during the Reformation, they denounce all doubters, such as Evans or Britain’s Gilbert Monckton as dangerous heretics, outliers in Gore’s phrase: or as willing tools of the evil enemy of a healthy planet, Big Oil.
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 3:56 AM
I’ve thought of that too RD. The ole “she’s too pretty. Let’s hate her!” affliction that some women have. I could definitely see some Hillary voters thinking that way. My bigger concern though is are they going to relate to any of her conservative views? She’s pro-life, pro-gun, pro-drilling even in ANWR. Which ones of those positions line up with any of theirs? I think she would make an awesome choice, but then, I’ve been a conservative all my adult life. I’m sure the PUMA guys will LOVE her though! :-)
Ramlady on August 29, 2008 at 3:56 AM
If the government is broken, i.e. cracked, then I’m looking very closely and about mid way up at the politician that can fix the government by being the government (be the ball). If Palin wants to be the crack to fix the crack, I’m right there behind her.
The thrust of my argument is that if repeatedly by inches we can overcum the commies, then by all means spread open wide and receive my generous donation.
AZCON on August 29, 2008 at 3:57 AM
The blockquote to above was suppose to be this one.
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 3:58 AM
2008 GOP platform
Oh Em Gee Look at the Nutbaggerie in the Gbee O Pee platform! Measured and Reasonable HAH! Those Racist Bigot Homophobe Sexist Xenophobe Wingnut Rethuglikkkans. Everybody knows they want Babies to Live in order to Destroy The PlANEt!!1
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 3:59 AM
I really did get it but I wanted very much to quote Groucho. You know me and my fondness for quoting.
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 4:00 AM
One more time.
Before you go buying into algore’s ‘documentary’, look at the other side.
Previously mentioned documentary ‘the great global warming swindle’ by the bbc.
Watch it. If you still believe that junk afterwards .. well .. continue to live in that fictional panic-driven watery doomed world.
cgoode777 on August 29, 2008 at 4:01 AM
I’ve never actually seen his documentary. My bed is much more comfortable for naps.
philnewkirk on August 29, 2008 at 4:04 AM
Aaaaawwww Yeaaaaah.
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 4:05 AM
A man’s only as old as the woman he feels.
- Groucho
I don’t care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members.
- Groucho
I remember the first time I had sex – I kept the receipt.
- Groucho
I’ve had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn’t it.
- Groucho
Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him.
- Groucho
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
- Groucho
Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others.
- Groucho
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 4:08 AM
Sweet dreams everybody. Obama threw his Messiahdom under the bus last night; spent 45 minutes agititin’ a list of grievances instead. Guy is toast.
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 4:10 AM
Nice. Goodnight, MB4. Glad you showed up.
RushBaby on August 29, 2008 at 4:11 AM
Guess I’m not getting that text message…good night everyone.
philnewkirk on August 29, 2008 at 4:13 AM
I’m about to watch Lord Tard on my DVR… do I need to smoke something special to get that “thrill up my leg”?
electric-rascal on August 29, 2008 at 4:14 AM
electric-rascal on August 29, 2008 at 4:14 AM
Ask AZCON. Sounds like he’s got some “thrill” to spare! :-0
Ramlady on August 29, 2008 at 4:21 AM
Sorry tehd, Obama was elected in 2004 so that means he has two more years on his senate term. That means if he loses he can just go back to being a Senator as John Kerry did.
Hawthorne on August 29, 2008 at 4:23 AM
I retyped my bit on the speech here it is again.
One small statement with a few big clues in it.
1. People in the big cities don’t have the same rights as people out in the country.
2. Only hunting and crime count. There’s no such thing as self defense.
3. The old AK47s (and Uzis) on the streets trick. Make everyone think you are talking about full-auto weapons like they see in the movies. They don’t understand that an Assault Weapon is not an Assault Rifle. The support for gun control is built upon this “bait and switch.”
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 4:25 AM
I firmly believe that no one should be allowed to have anything larger than a 105 in the city or in the country after dark.
MB4 on August 29, 2008 at 4:31 AM
Hi philnewkirk, what you have to realize is, there’s a general consensus on this board that (1) Hansen fudged his software & research to exaggerate the amount of temperature rise – and he continues to stonewall / won’t release the software he wrote on the *public dime* no less; (2) global temperature rises *precede* rises in atmospheric CO2, not the other way around, and thus the entire cause-and-effect argument behind ‘global warming’ is null and void; (3) all CO2 emissions due to human activity on the planet dwarf naturally-occurring emissions, such as from volcanoes and the like; and (4) plenty of scientists are aware of all of this, but are (allegedly) being silenced or ignored by NGOs eager to trump up the idea that humans are to blame for any amount of global warming, real of imagined.
On point 4, papers are published with endorsements of eminent scientists even though those scientists have asked, if not begged, to have their names removed from the list, to no avail. There are near-rebellions in some circles, with scientists reportedly ready to dissent en masse from official global warming doctrine (IPCC, APS, …).
Thus some of the skepticism.
I hope you don’t think the inclusion of this pseudoscience in the Republican Party platform is any kind of credible scientific endorsement!
Apropos: Just a page back (pg. 23), cgoode777 left a comment about a certain BBC documentary called The Great Global Warming Swindle that is mandatory viewing. Maybe you can debunk it for us so that it doesn’t cloud our thinking in the future.
RD on August 29, 2008 at 4:34 AM
I know that there are a lot of folks from the west coast on right now and that means there are probably a lot of Palin people still. While I do not think she is a horrible choice, I feel she is a risk.
Alaska is a small population state that normally votes Republican anyway. Palin does not bring any additional electoral votes to the ticket from her home state or neighvoring states, since no states border Alaska. As such she must bring votes to the ticket with the impression she makes since not many people are really familar with her. In that she has some good and bad points.
First since she is not well known the Democrat spin machine will have just as much opportunity to define her as the Republicans do. That is a risk that you do not get with an already known candidate like Romney.
The male vote trends Republican anyway so her good looks are not likely to win a lot of extra Republican votes from men.
You might be able to pick up some of the disaffected female vote from the Democrats treating Hillary so poorly. But I don’t think you are talking a big chunk. You might be looking at a few percent at most. In this case unusually good looks might actually play against her some with the “plain” or not so attractive women.
I really don’t think she brings the benefits to the table that a Romney pick would.
Hawthorne on August 29, 2008 at 4:40 AM
Er – all CO2 emissions due to human activity on the planet are dwarfed by naturally-occurring emissions, such as from volcanoes… !!
RD on August 29, 2008 at 4:43 AM
Hawthorne on August 29, 2008 at 4:40 AM
Its all about the oil drilling and the Gov of Alaska might know a thing or two about that.
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 4:46 AM
plants like CO2.
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 4:47 AM
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