Democratic convention, night four: Eschaton to be immanentized in Denver
posted at 7:05 pm on August 28, 2008 by Allahpundit
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We’re fully three hours away from Zeus’s descent from Olympus, but the festivities at the temple have begun so here’s your thread to snark. The schedule’s thin until 8:30 p.m. ET or so, when Gore the Baptist comes forth to herald the arrival of The One. Hotline has a few unexceptional excerpts from an advance copy of the speech and the AP has a bit more. Surely this will be the first time in history that a classical Greek setting serves as backdrop for a catchphrase based on the title of an old sitcom.
I doubt I’ll watch, but video will be here later. In the meantime, two quotes for you to meditate on. Number one: “Here we were eating lunch, and it was like the clouds parted and the sun was shining in.” And number two: “At the CNN bar, where the voice of Wolf Blitzer just said everyone will remember where they were when Obama made his speech.” Exit question: A Stonehenge set would have been awesome, wouldn’t it?
Update: Here’s something meatier to chew on. Is there going to be a convention in Minneapolis next week?
Update: The gauntlet is tossed in the comments. Was “Eight Is Enough” a sitcom — or a dramedy? Let the debate rage!
Update: Here’s the transcript of Obama’s speech. Money line from the nominee of the party that’s trumpeted every last setback and downplayed every last gain in Iraq for the past three years: “I’ve got news for you, John McCain. We all put our country first.” That makes twice now during a momentous speech that he’s rewritten his own side’s history. See his 2004 convention keynote, arguing that “there is not a Black America and a White America and Latino America and Asian America” to a party sick to its core with identity politics, for the other.
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Good work dude!!! Now we just need Nonfactor, alphie and the Hucktrolls in here and we’ll hit 2000 comments no problem!
fiatboomer on August 28, 2008 at 11:54 PM
I’ll bring my Glock and my Saiga. For protection. :p
fossten on August 28, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Shoot – I’d hate to see a thread go to 2000 without me.
Very divided response from pundits. Odd that people like Kristol and Krauthammer seemed impressed, while others on the sane side of MSNBC, thought it verged on suicidal politically.
CK MacLeod on August 28, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Freevillage,
I used to help organize Bush rallies. The only screening we did was to make sure no one was carrying a gun.
texette on August 28, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Why does Greta Van Sustren have a job?
Kevin71 on August 28, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Yes. You can go to any Bush rally. There’ll be only pre-screened people there.
freevillage on August 28, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Do they make sure no Muslim women are in the camera view, ala the Obama rallies?
Bishop on August 28, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Sorry, I don’t have a thousand to spend. I guess I’ll have to buy a nice new, shiny extra box of 30-06 for my garand.
wise_man on August 28, 2008 at 11:55 PM
McCain spokesman Tucker said “grow jobs” so fast it sounded like…
fossten on August 28, 2008 at 11:56 PM
I agree…just another white guy will GUARANTEE a GOP loss in November. Please Maverick, if you want this thing…let it be Palin or Kay Bailey Hutchison
CapitalistPig on August 28, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Just got my AR-15 last week
Texan on August 28, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Pa – Lease dont give them any ideas!
wise_man on August 28, 2008 at 11:56 PM
dang feta cut tucker off mid word how rude
tee866 on August 28, 2008 at 11:56 PM
they are showing mccain w/his wife. she is so lovely. why do the drivebys always focus on michele? cindy makes her look like somebody’s ugly sister.
anna on August 28, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Pat Buchannon is saying on MSNBC that is was the greatest speach he ever witnessed. wtf
pappy on August 28, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Yeah, ok, then he don’t have to understand how it works. Yo on the other hand should, and I though you would explain it to him.
Disclaimer: I’m OPPOSED to capital gains taxes. I SUPPORT flat income tax. I’m merely responding to an obviously uninformed comment made by your kid which you for some reason unknown to me are very proud of (the comment, not the kid).
People who have 250,001 pay the same taxes on their first 250,000. The extra 1 dollar is taxed progressively higher.
freevillage on August 28, 2008 at 11:57 PM
I loved how the event after that info came out there were like three Muslim women behind him.
eski502 on August 28, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Remember the OJ trial? She got a lot of air time then, and apparently she’s a decent lawyer. Add some plastic surgery and some teeth whitener and presto.
fossten on August 28, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Bah, you can get a very nice DPMS or Bushmaster for about $750.
Bishop on August 28, 2008 at 11:57 PM
We need to hit 2008 posts. it would be more symbolic.
mad saint jack on August 28, 2008 at 11:57 PM
This thread makes me so glad that I decided to not watch the mediawide orgasm over a man who scares the crap out of me. I’m glad that the majority of people in my area are not voting Obama.
Obama/Gustav 08… both will bring widespread destruction.
LickyLicky on August 28, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Pat said that?!?!
Skywise on August 28, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Someone please stick a fork in that guy, …
No, seriously. Stick a fork in him.
wise_man on August 28, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Andrea Mitchell, yuck.
eski502 on August 28, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Bushmaster it was, too!
Texan on August 28, 2008 at 11:58 PM
DPMS look like a very good deal.
mad saint jack on August 28, 2008 at 11:59 PM
I feel like I’m in the twilight zone hearing praise of that awful speech. What did Rover say? Someone please tell me.
texette on August 28, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Saigas run under $400, a good conversion $100 more, and you have a Semiauto .308 battle rifle.
fossten on August 28, 2008 at 11:59 PM
That’s really wierd, because Chrissy and Olberdunce said the same thing ……… before he gave it.
fogw on August 28, 2008 at 11:59 PM
they are showing mccain w/his wife. she is so lovely. why do the drivebys always focus on michele? cindy makes her look like somebody’s ugly sister.
anna on August 28, 2008 at 11:56 PM
I’m glad somebody finally said it. I look at Michelle Obama, and I always wonder why the praise for her “beauty” – she looks like a guy in drag, to me. Of course, the media and the Democrats did the same thing with Chelsea Clinton. To them, all liberal women are hot.
Yikes.
capitalist piglet on August 28, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Pat Buchannon is saying on MSNBC that is was the greatest speach he ever witnessed. wtf
pappy on August 28, 2008 at 11:56 PM
I guess Pat forgot to mention his all-time favorite – Hitler at Nuremberg.
TexasJew on August 28, 2008 at 11:59 PM
I feel like I’m in the twilight zone hearing praise of that awful speech. What did Rove say? Someone please tell me.
texette on August 28, 2008 at 11:59 PM
I swear its like people heard 2 or 3 different speeches tonight cause it sure wasn’t the greatest 1 I’ve ever heard
tee866 on August 29, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Has anyone seen this vid of Mitt seemingly questioning if McCain could beat Obama??? I don’t like this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPGnJmbDq08&feature=related
FLcapitalistthug on August 29, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Oh crap. Was that Shawn Johnson at the convention?
I’m heartbroken.
fossten on August 29, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Pat and Obama may be more alike than thought on first glance.
a capella on August 29, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Isn’t that what they showed on all the stations tonight? That Osama guy was just translating to english????????
I’m confused. He did put his hand in the air a lot.
eski502 on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM
THATS AWESOME!
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Someone mentioned he was on fox tearing Obama a new one but by the time I got downstairs to check it out it was over. I’d like to hear a recap of Rove as well. Anyone?
wise_man on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM
It’s Obama’s ability to lie with a straight face that I cannot comprehend. (Or Clinton’s or Kennedy’s or Olberman’s etc.) It’s a gift I suppose.
Uhhh…have we hit 2K yet?
pugwriter on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM
maybe Pat was reminded of it???
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM
I just can’t wait until all this convention nonsense is over and Red Eye is back on, who’s with me?
RightWinged on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM
capitalist piglet on August 28, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Chelsea Clinton made the two Johnson girls look like Playboy bunnies.
TexasJew on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM
That made me lol :)
dead-duck on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Nastia is more attractive anyway.
eski502 on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM
CK MacLeod on August 28, 2008 at 11:55 PM
That Krauthammer found it to be so good threw me off, I am still trying to decipher his analysis. And not that I find it odd because liberals are incapable of making a good speech or two, but this one wasn’t all that good, he almost said what seemed to sound like drug instead of drivers (completely stopping). He then, somewhere in the speech, lost that annoying baritone voice that everyone likes so much and slipped into scrappy kid from Hawaii on his surfboard. You know the one, it sounds like hes asking a girl out for the first time, but whiny and disbelieving. So just on delivery alone it was sub par.
Cardiganfox on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM
YES YES YES
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Did Pat say it in a monotone zombie voice like:
I liked it. It was better than Cats.
Skywise on August 29, 2008 at 12:02 AM
They make quite a pair, and she makes quite a pear.
misterpeasea on August 29, 2008 at 12:02 AM
I’m partial to Alicia Sacramone personally, but still, Shawn was so cute. What a shame.
fossten on August 29, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Get your Socom 16 while you can, it’s black and has a ported muzzle which means it can kill you just by looking at it.
It will set you back about two grand, but hey, when Baracky loses and the U.S. devolves into anarchy, it will come in handy.
Bishop on August 29, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Yeah. He didn’t seem to be his usually well spoken self in all seriousness here.
eski502 on August 29, 2008 at 12:03 AM
It’s Obama’s ability to lie with a straight face that I cannot comprehend. (Or Clinton’s or Kennedy’s or Olberman’s etc.) It’s a gift I suppose.
Uhhh…have we hit 2K yet?
pugwriter on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Why do you think most Hollywood actors lean to the left?
Cardiganfox on August 29, 2008 at 12:03 AM
racist!!
dead-duck on August 29, 2008 at 12:03 AM
LOL!
No, he really did like it!
wise_man on August 29, 2008 at 12:04 AM
I was hoping the Bushmaster ACR would be available in time.
fossten on August 29, 2008 at 12:04 AM
This was not the Obama I know!
Texas Gal on August 29, 2008 at 12:04 AM
“Eight is Enough” was a boring-ass drama.
I like how Obama laughed at his own clever joke. Nice.
Texan on August 29, 2008 at 12:04 AM
I look at Michelle Obama, and I always wonder why the praise for her “beauty” – she looks like a guy in drag, to me.
capitalist piglet on August 28, 2008 at 11:59 PM
She does look like a shorter RuPaul..
TexasJew on August 29, 2008 at 12:04 AM
LOL well done.
fossten on August 29, 2008 at 12:04 AM
She wore gi-normous peace symbol earrings to the Costas interview after she won her gold.
Good on the mat.
Not so good with the thinky.
cgoode777 on August 29, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Her hair scares me.
Agreed.
eski502 on August 29, 2008 at 12:04 AM
good lord greta is streaming neverending clips of the speech. enough!
anna on August 29, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Maybe the conservative pundits think they’ll look petty and small if they don’t kiss his ___. It’s the only explanation I can come up with.
capitalist piglet on August 29, 2008 at 12:04 AM
eski502 on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Yeah, Nastia is kinda hot. OMG is she eighteen…?
pugwriter on August 29, 2008 at 12:04 AM
texette on August 28, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Jennifer Rubin summed up Rove’s reaction as follows:
I think you’ll like JPod’s reaction, also at the CONTENTIONS blog:
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/jpodhoretz/24061
CK MacLeod on August 29, 2008 at 12:05 AM
I’m still pissed that McDonald sang because I love the Doobies.
Doobie Brothers, that is.
I know what you were thinking.
Bishop on August 29, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Get your Socom 16 while you can, it’s black and has a ported muzzle which means it can kill you just by looking at it.
It will set you back about two grand, but hey, when Baracky loses and the U.S. devolves into anarchy, it will come in handy.
Bishop on August 29, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Right at 2000 threads and we’re back in “Y2K” speak!
TexasJew on August 29, 2008 at 12:05 AM
I bet freevillage is blogging from Temple not on
the Mount,upfront and personal, front row seat
of, Hope-us,Change-O,prest-O -Barack-O,95% middle
class tax cuts speech-O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on August 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM
She’s young, naive, and brain washed. Must have been trained like the chinese gymnists. isolation.
eski502 on August 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM
Yes, she’s 18. Shawn Johnson is 16, and Alicia Sacramone is 20.
ReubenJCogburn on August 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM
Barak just loves his old white granny now, eh?
pseudonominus on August 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM
I just don’t get how the O can say he will only send our troops into harms way if there is a clear plan in one breath then say he would send them into Pakastain wtf
tee866 on August 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM
The discussion was about capital gains taxes. If you realize capital gains and the capital gains tax rate is twice as much if you earn more than $250,000 then you are better off earning less than the $250,000 threshold.
Buy Danish on August 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM
Anyone see this? WaPo is saying that the GOP may postpone the convention based on what happens with Gustav.
Smart move it that storm hits hard.
Bishop on August 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM
Did anyone else hear the closing benediction which sounded more like a prayer to Obama than God? Creepy
Texan on August 29, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Upon minimal analysis of tonight’s speech, it’s easy to discover that there’s nothing fresh and new about Obama and his recycled policies. When it comes down to it, he’s just the same old politician. Just because he’s young and black, it doesn’t make what he says unique.
Kinda reminds me of the newly packaged eggrolls i bought last night: New look, same flavor!
Eschelon on August 29, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Guys, that’s from the Bible. “So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.” 2 Corinthians 4:18
deedledee on August 29, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Someone said Kid Rock might show up, but I think they were pulling my leg. He was listed for a show in Miluakee tonight so….
Anyone know the deal? this could be sad.
eski502 on August 29, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Dude lives in Bahwston. Who’d a thunk it?
fogw on August 29, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Cindy blows away Michelle O in the looks department. I think she is several years older too.
kyarnes on August 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Taxing your employer to guarantee you getting shit-canned.
That’s the ticket!
TexasJew on August 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM
It’s okay. She’ll be a conservative in about 25 years.
wise_man on August 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM
George Bush. Poor assembly line workers. Free college. George Bush. Plant closings. Free preschool. Free fish (ignore that rod and reel over there). George Bush. Debate me now (steps behind Steve Wilcos). If you can find the time, maybe think about parenting, if you can try it, perhaps. This all will cost money, I will pay for it by taxing the corporations (you know, the ones that are ravaged by the highest tax rates in the world and close plants, enabling me to use their employees in circus freak fashion to gain red state votes).
MarcusBrody on August 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM
I HAVE A JOB FOR ALL OF YOU.
Wait one week. Find an 0bama supporter.
Ask them to quote any line from the speech tonight, besides “hope and change” or “yes we can.”
mad saint jack on August 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM
I just ordered an AR-10 lower.
I live in California, so it will have to have a non-detachable magazine, but so what.
pseudonominus on August 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Oh… That’s sad. :( She would be really pretty if the sour puss was wiped off her face. I’m not sure what she has to be sad about … She has a good looking hubby, two beautiful children, and a job that pays 300K per year.
Illinidiva on August 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM
damn. and I thought he was a muslim.
eski502 on August 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Cardiganfox on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Krauthammer overstated, in my opinion, what he called the “genius” of Obama further pursuing, in this speech, a strategy of reducing himself to a generic Dem in a year that Dems are supposed to win. This strategy was in fact the obvious avenue for Obama to pursue as soon as he started losing primaries to Hillary, and was already made clear in the dizzying series of flip-flops from June to July and the selection of Biden, and confirmed in the failed attempts to renew the charisma campaign amidst the success of the McCain attempts to subvert it.
CK MacLeod on August 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Some sort of subliminal white guilt maybe? That or maybe they’re honoring the old rule of “if you can’t say something nice”…
I refuse to believe these guys honestly liked a blatant attack speech like that.
Skywise on August 29, 2008 at 12:09 AM
I had changed the channel by then ;)
dead-duck on August 29, 2008 at 12:09 AM
RE: Firearms. My husband and I have new S & W M and P’s his .45, mine a 9mm courtesy of our incentive checks! Get em while you can folks
InTheBellyoftheBeast on August 29, 2008 at 12:09 AM
you should run for prez.
eski502 on August 29, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Steele’s questions resonate. How can you do all this?
BHO does not know economics, thermodynamics, strategy, or geopolitics. His bad ideas flounder on the shoals of reality.
I’m going out and getting me a H & K USC. It will be a bumpy ride to Agincourt.
NaCly dog on August 29, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Excellent summary
pappy on August 29, 2008 at 12:10 AM
I bet Kristol rewatches the speech and has an epiphany come tomorrow.
eski502 on August 29, 2008 at 12:10 AM
You read my mind. I miss Greg and even Bill
jencab on August 29, 2008 at 12:10 AM
I would agree, Sacramone is the hottest of the 3… but she’s also the one who choked. I also agree that Nastia is hotter than Shawn…. and not only that, but Nastia Liukin and Alicia Sacramone are both legal.
RightWinged on August 29, 2008 at 12:10 AM
The Fox crew is absolutely pathetic in their attempt to whore themselves for the big man Bill O’reilly. The desperation to woo The Messiah to appear on the factor has become an excersie in prostitution. Bill is the FNC Olberdouche.
dmann on August 29, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Thank you!
I look to Karl often to compare and contrast my own opinion. Politically, it was awful–that’s where the “debate on specifics” especially comes in. Lots of fodder for campaign commercials and McCain’s own speech.
texette on August 29, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Disgusting
RightWinged on August 29, 2008 at 12:11 AM
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