Democratic convention, night four: Eschaton to be immanentized in Denver
posted at 7:05 pm on August 28, 2008 by Allahpundit
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We’re fully three hours away from Zeus’s descent from Olympus, but the festivities at the temple have begun so here’s your thread to snark. The schedule’s thin until 8:30 p.m. ET or so, when Gore the Baptist comes forth to herald the arrival of The One. Hotline has a few unexceptional excerpts from an advance copy of the speech and the AP has a bit more. Surely this will be the first time in history that a classical Greek setting serves as backdrop for a catchphrase based on the title of an old sitcom.
I doubt I’ll watch, but video will be here later. In the meantime, two quotes for you to meditate on. Number one: “Here we were eating lunch, and it was like the clouds parted and the sun was shining in.” And number two: “At the CNN bar, where the voice of Wolf Blitzer just said everyone will remember where they were when Obama made his speech.” Exit question: A Stonehenge set would have been awesome, wouldn’t it?
Update: Here’s something meatier to chew on. Is there going to be a convention in Minneapolis next week?
Update: The gauntlet is tossed in the comments. Was “Eight Is Enough” a sitcom — or a dramedy? Let the debate rage!
Update: Here’s the transcript of Obama’s speech. Money line from the nominee of the party that’s trumpeted every last setback and downplayed every last gain in Iraq for the past three years: “I’ve got news for you, John McCain. We all put our country first.” That makes twice now during a momentous speech that he’s rewritten his own side’s history. See his 2004 convention keynote, arguing that “there is not a Black America and a White America and Latino America and Asian America” to a party sick to its core with identity politics, for the other.
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Oh, they know baby. It’s something they admire in their candidates.
fogw on August 28, 2008 at 11:39 PM
But he looked so dreamy when he gave it!
rhbandsp on August 28, 2008 at 11:39 PM
aero on August 28, 2008 at 11:36 PM
I blame the school system…seems they aren’t brainwashing the young like they use too. The entire speech was a sack full of crap
unseen on August 28, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Kevin71 on August 28, 2008 at 11:37 PM
I would go the the McCain website or that of the Nutter Center and see if any are still left
tee866 on August 28, 2008 at 11:39 PM
The other line: Obama would have government provide health care for people that work at companies which don’t provide it.
Duh, which dumbshat company will now pay for healthcare if the guv’ment will cover it?
My take? Obama is officially a moron.
Bishop on August 28, 2008 at 11:39 PM
It didn’t read well as a speech and the presentation came off like the Nuremburg rallies… I’ll be interested to hear what McCain’s speech sounds like; I’d really enjoy reading the Saltar-verse. Johnny Mac can give a good speech when he so chooses, and I thought that his two convention speeches (2000 and 2004) were pretty good.
Illinidiva on August 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM
I caught that, of course. It’s not about that. Sometimes I wonder if you people get out at all. “Oh, my McCain’s ad had so much class.” Well, first of all no it didn’t if its point wasn’t being sincere, but to make the tonight’s speech difficult. I think the last classy thing for you was when Bush insinuated McCain had a colored illegitimate child. Classy doesn’t mean political expediency. It’s the opposite.
Secondly, who the hell watched that ad? I know you, and another person who lives in your basement and who you talk to through Hotair comments sections. Anybody else? I was taking the garbage out and the speech was heard from every goddamn door. Yes, it’s Boston. OK. Still. I think you kid yourself when you think the speech was intended as a budget proposal.
I don’t know if he’ll get teh bounce. I hope not. I hope nobody does. It scares me shitless when people change their mind on foreign policy or war as a result of a single speech. But to say this was a mediocre speech? Alright, whatever…
freevillage on August 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM
they are rehashing the speech, it dont get better cut down to sound bites
trailortrash on August 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM
not what he said. he said 20 and 20.
mad saint jack on August 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM
allrsn, are you still here?
RightWinged on August 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Yeah that’s right Obie…you’re on your own. That’s freedom. Better to struggle and be free than be dependent on the gov teat you dope.
fossten on August 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Socialism. Love it.
progressoverpeace on August 28, 2008 at 11:41 PM
1800+ comments and counting. Most awesome thread evah!
CapitalistPig on August 28, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Great analysis.
carbon_footprint on August 28, 2008 at 11:41 PM
the speech was written before all but biden turned him down?
funky chicken on August 28, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Frank Luntz = douchebag idiot dork
fossten on August 28, 2008 at 11:42 PM
what about when barry said things like, “after 9/11 i argued blah blah blah.” who was this guy after 9/11? a state senator? who was paying attention to him. and how many times is he going to say he was against the war? he wasn’t even in the senate then!
anna on August 28, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Greta was dazzled by the speech? Wow she is vapid.
fossten on August 28, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Gotta’ disagree allrsn .. found it quite poetic.
cgoode777 on August 28, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Huh?
progressoverpeace on August 28, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Good God… Could we get rid of this freevillage troll person???
Illinidiva on August 28, 2008 at 11:43 PM
That he said McCain had his eye on Iraq days after 9/11 is libelous.
Cardiganfox on August 28, 2008 at 11:44 PM
This wasn’t a mediocre speech. Politically, this was an awful speech.
texette on August 28, 2008 at 11:44 PM
OK, now that the transcript is up, here is the detail of Obama cribbing from die-hard capitalist Calvin Coolidge:
Obamarama:
Silent Cal:
Irony writ large baby!!
fiatboomer on August 28, 2008 at 11:44 PM
I am sick of Luntz and his toupee.
jencab on August 28, 2008 at 11:44 PM
AK47 same old bait and switch LIE the Ds have used for years.
mad saint jack on August 28, 2008 at 11:44 PM
I just donated to John McCain for the first time. I guess you could say the speech inspired me.
capitalist piglet on August 28, 2008 at 11:44 PM
How about the Iraq war being “Days” after 9-11……
Is that the first he’s mentioned 9-11 in this campaign?
Funny earlier- Olberman positioned a “9-11 was an inside job” sign right behind the platform they were on.
eski502 on August 28, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Fixed.
fossten on August 28, 2008 at 11:44 PM
holy crap, frank luntz predicted 10 pt lead for BO in 72 hrs.
anna on August 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Stop insulting douchebag idiot dorks. For God’s sake man, they make up about half of our population.
fogw on August 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM
So your kid apparently has never filled a single 1040 form.
freevillage on August 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Guess this means my family and I will need to turn in our AK-47s we use for deer hunting every year? /s
coyoterex on August 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Be fair, it wasn’t Obama stealing from Coolidge…it was his writers. I doubt we have ever heard a speech by this clown that he personally constructed.
Texan on August 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM
apparently there is billions in closing corporate loopholes. That and trashing missile defense programs.
wise_man on August 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM
How the hell is Luntz 46 years old? He looks like a nerdy high school freshman, am I right?
RightWinged on August 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM
hey unseen the big O said your name in his speech and I missed it lol
tee866 on August 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM
same here.
eski502 on August 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM
who’s sticking around to help us hit 2000 comments?
RightWinged on August 28, 2008 at 11:46 PM
kinda makes me want to go out and buy one just to spite him.
wise_man on August 28, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Michael Steele was dead on. How are you going to do this? When are you going to give a plan? He has been giving this speech for years. It pretty like a toy poodle but has no Practicality.
Gracelynn on August 28, 2008 at 11:46 PM
I would send McCain $100 tonight if he would announce right now and end this Obamargasm NOW
CapitalistPig on August 28, 2008 at 11:46 PM
obama will be up 10 only b/c the press coverage but tomorrow mac names his vp and then the gop has its convention and we are back where we where before either convention.
lavell12 on August 28, 2008 at 11:46 PM
McCain’s ad was classy…
Texan on August 28, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Why get rid of freevillage? Everyone should get an opinion and you can either debate it or ignore; this isn’t KOS or TP.
Bishop on August 28, 2008 at 11:47 PM
I can talk about guns!
mad saint jack on August 28, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Obviously Obama has never seen “Shooter.” A good deer rifle with scope is so much more deadly than an AK47.
fossten on August 28, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Andre Mitchell earning her pay check from the Obama campaign.
SouthernGent on August 28, 2008 at 11:47 PM
knee cap about right now.
lavell12 on August 28, 2008 at 11:47 PM
John on Powerline nailed it when he said: “Of course, Obama has no intention of appealing to the well-informed. Like other Democrats, he feeds on ignorance. Whether a majority of voters are ignorant enough to swallow Obama’s whoppers is, as yet, unknown.”
Obama does indeed feed on ignorance and unfortunately we far too much of it in this country.
rplat on August 28, 2008 at 11:47 PM
frank luntz’s advice- townhall mtg style speech for mccain instead of a big production. sounds super boring.
anna on August 28, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Probably not. But steal it he did, when he read the line. I don’t know if anyone will care, but of all the Presidents for a guy this liberal to copycat…
fiatboomer on August 28, 2008 at 11:47 PM
;-)
funky chicken on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Hee… Doesn’t Jesus’ speech kinda make you miss Bill Jeff?? No matter what you thought of him, you have to admit that his speech was excellent (as well as Hillary’s) and that he’s the ultimate politician. (Plus, he is pretty much a moderate… unlike the Obamamessiah and his harpy wife and friends William Ayers and Rev. Wright.
Illinidiva on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Nah man… he stole ‘em from Wikipedia! :D
Skywise on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
I caught the tail end of the speech from the fox news website – situation room – where they were commenting on his falsehoods as he mentioned them.
wise_man on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
McCain Campaign Statement on Barack Obama’s Acceptance Speech
bnelson44 on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
The speech was Suffergette City,By Bowie!
canopfor on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Agreed. Always fun to get an insight into the kind of thinking I do not understand.
coyoterex on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
True. Every village needs an idiot.
Jim M. on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
I am watching Jay Leno. I can’t take Luntz and his toupee.
jencab on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Warning: Do not go to any Democrat sites tonite. The amount of Obama love might turn you homosexual.
Speedwagon82 on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Bill Clinton was the best gun salesman ever!
mad saint jack on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
I’mnot watching that. A sample please?
wise_man on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
fossten on August 28, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Indeed but this was over TV, seen by thousands or millions even.
Cardiganfox on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Oh, forgot to mention it’s obvious Andrea Mitchell is hoarse from screaming. And she just called Obama “the president”.
SouthernGent on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Oh, yes we have. Just last night in his cameo, “I came out here for, uh, a little something to say …”
progressoverpeace on August 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM
so long as he doesn’t try to take the hubby’s desert eagle we’re fine
tee866 on August 28, 2008 at 11:49 PM
shuck i missed it , i guess i didnt miss to much .
Mojack420 on August 28, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Such a well spoken and clean young man…
Texan on August 28, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Thanks for the link! Greta and FOX News rudely interrupted Carl Cameron for Luntz and his horrible analysis.
jencab on August 28, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Well that was a short lived truce…
Skywise on August 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Interesting. 7 so far. Have they been updating the page?
wise_man on August 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Reminds me of 2004, during the DNC convention, when Peter Jennings referred to Edwards as the Vice President on national TV.
fossten on August 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM
who would of thought that even the dems would nominate a terrorist loving sob named barack hussein obama just seven years after 9/11.
lavell12 on August 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM
relax, he didn’t interrupt the messiah’s speech.
wise_man on August 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM
frank luntz’s advice- townhall mtg style speech for mccain instead of a big production. sounds super boring.
Illinidiva on August 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Well, after she called Obama the president, she referred to McCain as “older”. She was talking about how excited the crowd was (meaning her) that “the blood is in the water” and the fight is on.
SouthernGent on August 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM
From the way the networks are covering the first black candidate angle the new Dem slogan is going to be – Vote Obama or you’re a racist.
DailyTrackingPoll on August 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM
ugh “closing loopholes” is dem speak for jack up the corporate tax rate.
anna on August 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Who the hell plagarizes Calvin Coolidge? WTF? At least Deval Patrick was recent.
Biden must have written it.
eski502 on August 28, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Supposedly, Obama has been writing this speech on yellow legal pads for two weeks. That’s his story and he’s sticking with it.
texette on August 28, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Me three. Good idea. Made me feel good .. feels like an appropriate action after sitting through that garbage.
cgoode777 on August 28, 2008 at 11:51 PM
My campaign statement draft for McCain …..
Outside, punk.
fogw on August 28, 2008 at 11:51 PM
If we are so fired up against Obama, I am worried about Rush Limbaugh and the state of his health. His blood pressure must be through the roof.
jencab on August 28, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Thank you kindly southern gentlemen.
wise_man on August 28, 2008 at 11:52 PM
with all the media love on this we better comeup with someone bigger than tim pawlenty in the morning.
lavell12 on August 28, 2008 at 11:52 PM
What?
He’s 14, for starters so, no, he hasn’t filled out a 1040 yet. The point is that a “progressive” tax punishes achievement, and he was able to figure that out using logic, common sense, and the most elementary math skills.
But hey, maybe you can tell us:
What’s the point of working harder to earn more if you end up with less at the end?
Buy Danish on August 28, 2008 at 11:52 PM
From McCain
I like it
mad saint jack on August 28, 2008 at 11:52 PM
He should do a townhall Wednesday and the speech Thursday.
I think they should postpone a week with the Hurricane though.
eski502 on August 28, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Greta: BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!! THERE WILL BE NO NEWS ON VP FOR MCCAIN!!!!!!!
Sheesh.
fossten on August 28, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Yes. You can go to any Bush rally. There’ll be only pre-screened people there.
freevillage on August 28, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Sarah Palin please.
eski502 on August 28, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Oh, wow….there’s a Capitalist Piglet on here….
CapitalistPig on August 28, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Who wants to go to Cabela’s with me tomorrow for an M4, juuuuust in case Baracky squeaks-through in November?
Bishop on August 28, 2008 at 11:54 PM
I almost did… but I’m still ticked about his campaign finance reform legislation… anybody help me around this moral quandry? (I’m still gonna vote for him… but I’m still not happy about it)
Skywise on August 28, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Bush isn’t running anymore. Didn’t you get the memo?
wise_man on August 28, 2008 at 11:54 PM
I love C-Span compared to the other “shoutie” channels. The C-Spanners are so nerdy and vanilla. All you get is what the speakers are saying, no analysis or opinion.
Texan on August 28, 2008 at 11:54 PM
o/
fossten on August 28, 2008 at 11:54 PM
You’re welcome! All that was in about a minute…litearlly. It was all I could stand.
SouthernGent on August 28, 2008 at 11:54 PM
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