Democratic convention, night four: Eschaton to be immanentized in Denver

posted at 7:05 pm on August 28, 2008 by Allahpundit

We’re fully three hours away from Zeus’s descent from Olympus, but the festivities at the temple have begun so here’s your thread to snark. The schedule’s thin until 8:30 p.m. ET or so, when Gore the Baptist comes forth to herald the arrival of The One. Hotline has a few unexceptional excerpts from an advance copy of the speech and the AP has a bit more. Surely this will be the first time in history that a classical Greek setting serves as backdrop for a catchphrase based on the title of an old sitcom.

I doubt I’ll watch, but video will be here later. In the meantime, two quotes for you to meditate on. Number one: “Here we were eating lunch, and it was like the clouds parted and the sun was shining in.” And number two: “At the CNN bar, where the voice of Wolf Blitzer just said everyone will remember where they were when Obama made his speech.” Exit question: A Stonehenge set would have been awesome, wouldn’t it?

Update: Here’s something meatier to chew on. Is there going to be a convention in Minneapolis next week?

Update: The gauntlet is tossed in the comments. Was “Eight Is Enough” a sitcom — or a dramedy? Let the debate rage!

Update: Here’s the transcript of Obama’s speech. Money line from the nominee of the party that’s trumpeted every last setback and downplayed every last gain in Iraq for the past three years: “I’ve got news for you, John McCain. We all put our country first.” That makes twice now during a momentous speech that he’s rewritten his own side’s history. See his 2004 convention keynote, arguing that “there is not a Black America and a White America and Latino America and Asian America” to a party sick to its core with identity politics, for the other.

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Fathers taking responsibility? Wow, something we agree on.

common sensineer on August 28, 2008 at 10:40 PM

This is a yawner.

He’s winding up the crowd, but actually, not even them that much. I’ll bet half of the people who tuned in for the first time have already left. It’s just Democrat boilerplate.

Typhoon on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

How the hell do you enforce responsibility??

pappy on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

To pay for all the programs,

kiss away,

Space

Military

etc!!!

canopfor on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

You won’t debate him

ndulik on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

debate? this guy has run away from them

El_Terrible on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

I do appreciate his emphasis on the importance of fathers. It’s too bad he wants the government taking over so many of his roles.

CrusaderMom on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

John McCain wants to have a debate, yes. But you shirked away from them

James on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

Yeah right! He will kick your arrogant ass.

carbon_footprint on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

It’s an amalgamation of every democrat speech from the last 30 years b/c the One is incapable of original, independent thought. The Empty Suit has to plagarize, just like his running mate.

uncalheels on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

omg he did not say he would debate now did he lmmfao

tee866 on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

except that he’s not willing to debate… ducked all the requests

David Rasbold on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

Urkle, McCain will DESTROY you in a debate.

RightWinged on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

un-oh here comes the iraq debate

Lance Murdock on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

he just questioned mccain’s temper. screw this terrorist. i’d rather have carter back.

lavell12 on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

Sad sad sad

ndulik on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

“…as long as the debate isn’t in a ‘town hall’ setting.”

LibTired on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

That ANYONE could listen to this kind of stuff, much less enjoy listening to it; to believe it, and to cheer for it proves that the majority of the American Public is too dumb to live without a nanny state government.

LegendHasIt on August 28, 2008 at 10:39 PM

Embrace your future, deep in the mountains.

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

I don’t know what Barack Obama and his speechwriters were smoking but this speech is a disaster…..

War69DotCom on August 28, 2008 at 10:40 PM

Soooooo true.

FiveWays on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

Distract! DRINK

jimmy the notable on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

Ooooo….a debate!

He’s tough.

The Ugly American on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

omg… liar, liar, liar

David Rasbold on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

What he backed out of his last debate challange! And now he has the aducity to challange another debate???? WOW

allrsn on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Osama Bin Laden is dead.

James on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

McCain should quote GWB about the challenge to debate “Bring it on”.

lavell12 on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

He’s so macho I’m wet

ndulik on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Is this douche still talking? Good grief.

SouthernGent on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Here he goes again……saying he is ready for a debate with John McCain

JudyNH on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

for flip’s sake. I’m going to bed.
He’ll never win the presidency and MLKjr is rollin’ around in is grave.

bridgetown on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

f- it, gotta pause and go buy some cigarettes

RightWinged on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

One word: Sudan.

common sensineer on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

If we had good questioners for the debates most of this would be debunked.

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

yeah thats what we are doing right now, barry

Lance Murdock on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Invade Pakistan!

jimmy the notable on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Am I the only one seeing Mussolini here?

This is scary.

dugan on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

didn’t clinton have Bin Laden in his sights?

InTheBellyoftheBeast on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

oooh, the cave!

El_Terrible on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Barry- you NEVER voted on the war because you were weren’t in the Senate yet!

FiveWays on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Does OBAMA know the cave that Osama is in????

wise_man on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Take out Osama…. yea, just like your buddy Bill did?

4shoes on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

dang michael steel is tearin obama a new one on fox

tee866 on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Well, if it is in Pakistan, yes. Unless you want to start a war there tough guy.

James on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

I loathe this man.

carbon_footprint on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

He’s gonna take Bin Laden out……………….for dinner and drinks.

The Ugly American on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

How about you follow Osama bin Laden to the cave where he lives, you JERK

RushBaby on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

When does he break into the “McCain’s momma is so fat,…”

Kevin71 on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Calling McCain weak on OBL? Now I’m just in “F-you, barry” mode.

Pasalubong on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Excuse me, when did we have Osama in our sights and not take him out? Wasn’t that under the Clinton administration?

CrusaderMom on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Here’s that Strategy Room link. Great comments!

IrishEi on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Mccain will not take out bin laudin??? that was clinton you fool!

allrsn on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

He is going Russian on Pakistan..LOL

Y314K on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

What a forward thinking genius. He’s calling for a timetable.

LibTired on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Steal Iraq’s Money!!

jimmy the notable on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

here comes lying about the timeline for withdraw.

lavell12 on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

How convenient he calls for an exit from Iraq, when the SURGE IS WORKING.

James on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

dugan on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

He’s a meglomaniac socialist nutbag.

progressoverpeace on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Commander in Cheif?

Seven Percent Solution on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

barry, when you debate mccain, you cant use a teleprompter

Lance Murdock on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

OBAMAPUTIN08

Y314K on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

With all the tax money we’d be spending on this dork you’d think we’d get SOMETHING useful with the TRILLions of dollars spent. Abandon space? Abandon weapons development?

Dude!

Mojave Mark on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

I think we should be proud of the Iraqi surplus.. we are rebuilding it.. should hammer it away

El_Terrible on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

the… FUTURE… who prepped him on this speech… he looks almost rabid

David Rasbold on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Iraqi surplus? But I thought we were STEALING all that Iraqi oil?

FiveWays on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Okay,now he really did it,here comes Mother
of All ads;

He asked for more troops!

And is painting Iraq for 911?

canopfor on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

We’ve been safe for almost seven years now tool!

carbon_footprint on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

My blood is boiling. Not at Obama for saying what I already knew he believed, but at the 80,000 sheep cheering for this socialistic crap! They have tears in their eyes, they’re so moved at the wonderfulness of being robbed and raped by their own government. Dammit! I can’t stand the lack of critical thinking skills in too many Americans!!!

aero on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Excuse me, when did we have Osama in our sights and not take him out? Wasn’t that under the Clinton administration?
CrusaderMom on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

several times, actually.

wise_man on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

If this guy wins, there’s trouble, if he loses, there’s trouble.

Entelechy on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

So we’d be better off if Iraq had a struggling economy?

WTF????

The Ugly American on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

He’s going to use ideas from the future

pappy on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

He’s a real military genius.

carbon_footprint on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Obama’s a tough guy.

progressoverpeace on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Protect Israel?

James on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

McCainSEELY08

Y314K on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Is this douche still talking? Good grief.

SouthernGent on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM

37 minutes now

RushBaby on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

You can’t stand up for Georgia….when you’re vacationing in Hawaii!!

jimmy the notable on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

For all the praise for his speaking ability, Obama gestures way too much…almost to the point of being distracting.

Point

Pinch

Wag finger

Wave hand

Repeat

Hammertime on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

He’s a complete ass wipe

ndulik on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

who wrote this? obama is trying to act tough here.

lavell12 on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

psssshhhh…. terrorists in 80 countries? Didn’t anyone tell Obama the threat from terrorism is all a lie?

dead-duck on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

It’s like Bill Clinton with oral diarrhea!

profitsbeard on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM

So, how do you propose talking to our enemies Barack? Over tea and crumpets?

James on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM

The change that America needs will come from your pockets.

Kevin71 on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM

This guy is a coward. Backs out of debates, avoids confrontations, against the surge, etc. he is the king of all jerks!

jencab on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM

8 changes so far according to fox

tee866 on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM

how about winning the war instead of ending the war

JudyNH on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM

Democrats haven’t defended this country since the 70′s… Did he just said that…

Y314K on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM

The democrats won’t defend the country, Obama. The democrats won’t “keep us safe.”

wise_man on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM

…….what a tool …………errrr

JudyNH on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM

McCain is bushes vp??? when did that happen?

allrsn on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM

O-BA-MA — Please use your vast foreign policy wisdom and experience to deliver us from evil in the world!

CrusaderMom on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM

This is reminiscent of Hitler’s Nuremburg rallies.

rplat on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM

Iraq OIL OIL,

15 years of Saddam giving the finger
to the UN,and AMERICA,DUH!!!!!!

canopfor on August 28, 2008 at 10:45 PM

He’s gonna take Bin Laden out……………….for dinner and drinks.

The Ugly American

Before or after? …well…you know.

Earlg on August 28, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Rush will have way to much material for one show

pappy on August 28, 2008 at 10:45 PM

“I will never hesitate, but…”

Isn’t that a hesitation?

dead-duck on August 28, 2008 at 10:45 PM

WHAT!! He’ll protect ISRAEL, GEORGIA, yeah right.

Lance Murdock on August 28, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Kennedy.

Let’s see…..Bay of Pigs, Vietnam.

Yeah, great protector.

The Ugly American on August 28, 2008 at 10:45 PM

this speech is almost like reading a blog off of Daily Kos…

David Rasbold on August 28, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Tolly-bahn!

carbon_footprint on August 28, 2008 at 10:45 PM

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