Video: Obama and Ayers, the “Hype” trailer; Update: Unrepentant terrorist and unrepentant liar
posted at 1:18 pm on August 27, 2008 by Allahpundit
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It’s not a trailer, actually. It’s a snippet from the film itself, premiering next week in Minneapolis during the convention and produced by Citizens United, the conservative outfit led by former Whitewater investigator David Bossie that attacked Maverick with a “McCain = Hillary” ad during the primaries. Nothing here you don’t already know but plenty here that the average voter doesn’t, so expect it to draw the usual hysterical denunciations-sans-arguments from the left eager to kill the meme but without any effective rebuttal to the charge. Ayers is much more dangerous for Obama than Rezko is, I think: The public’s not going to reject a guy for engaging in the sort of petty graft which they assume all politicians engage in, but hobnobbing with terrorists is a different matter. Absent any defense of his actions better than the idiotic point that he was only eight when Ayers committed his crimes, the Democrats are going to have to find someone in McCain’s own orbit with whom they can pull a tu quoque. Although even there, they’ll run up against his POW Absolute Moral Authority (assuming he hasn’t used it all up on silly defenses by then).
For your companion reading, try Fox News’s report of its 2004 interview with Ayers if you missed it last night. Sure, the Weathermen were terrorists, but they were “driven by hope and love and aspiration as much as we were driven by despair” so everything’s cool. He also insists that the bombs they set were calculated so as not to harm anyone, a claim Fox seems to take at his word. Really? Who killed Sgt. Brian McDonnell, then?
Update: I missed Andy McCarthy’s evisceration of Ayers’s lies about his true intentions as a Weatherman this morning. Essential.
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“He also insists that the bombs they set were calculated so as not to harm anyone”
and their prowress with that matches the prowress with which they overthrew “the system” — y’know, the one they now happily inhabit and get rich off of …
/never has the phrase “oxygen thieves” been so appropriate …
Buckaroo on August 27, 2008 at 1:22 PM
Ummmm…..hope and change?
It's Vintage, Duh on August 27, 2008 at 1:24 PM
Sounds hauntingly familiar.
Brat on August 27, 2008 at 1:24 PM
GLORIOUS
GO GO GO
Barry the truth is coming…..
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 1:24 PM
THROW THEM UNDER THE BUS!!
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 27, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Why is no one talking about the fact that the Obama campaign wants to prosecute people that associate him with Ayers in TV ads? This should be front page headline news people!
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Obama_camp_Prosecute_Simmons.html
BackSeatDriver on August 27, 2008 at 1:27 PM
It’s ok. They were the good kind of terrorists.
Even if I agreed with Obama on more policy positions than McCain, his association with Ayers would keep me from voting for him. It’s just too creepy to think about Ayers getting to hang out on the oval office.
BadgerHawk on August 27, 2008 at 1:27 PM
There’s also this.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2068837/posts
I haven’t listened so fwiw…
ninjapirate on August 27, 2008 at 1:29 PM
surely america wouldn’t elect a radical like this under any circumstance, right?
just how bad of a candidate could the dems have possibly come up with?
Obama bin Biden, 2008!
Like Osama, they also have friends that bombed the Pentagon.
Nihilism….coming home….to roost!
jp on August 27, 2008 at 1:29 PM
hey barry any more friend we should know about?
steviedfromnc on August 27, 2008 at 1:30 PM
Well um uh, *makes air quotes* “terrorism” in this case is a mischaracterization of uh….they were trying to do good for America by bringing change we can believe in…..er um uh who is William Ayers I think he borrowed sugar once….can’t hear myself goodnight now heh
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 1:30 PM
*brain shatter*
PRINT THAT BABY
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 27, 2008 at 1:30 PM
I’m still trying to figure out why Ayers is not sitting in jail.
progressoverpeace on August 27, 2008 at 1:31 PM
The line about Hamas is pure gold, especially in this context.
darclon on August 27, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Guitly as Hell and Free as a Bird! And now an adviser to Presidents…
petunia on August 27, 2008 at 1:32 PM
Ayers looks like a punk in that mug shot. Come to think of it, he still looks like a punk.
KelliD on August 27, 2008 at 1:34 PM
FIFY
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 27, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Me, too.
Dariaanne on August 27, 2008 at 1:35 PM
That anyone in the Republican party continues to have Mike Huckabee in anything totally blows up the arguement! Mike Huckabee’s presence takes away all credability to any arguement. That is a big big mistake.
petunia on August 27, 2008 at 1:38 PM
Check out this Amanda Carpenter piece.
Another Radical Obama Association?
ninjapirate on August 27, 2008 at 1:39 PM
Exactly – this is a guy who doesn’t think the justice department has any business investigating people with documeented ties to overseas terrorist groups, but DOES think the justice department should investigate people who disagree with him on politics.
Very revealing.
NoDonkey on August 27, 2008 at 1:39 PM
BO says in his clip that Ayers “is not someone I exchanged ideas from on a regular basis”. Does he exchange ideas with him on an “irregular” basis? This is going to bring Hope and Change to his knees.
JDH on August 27, 2008 at 1:39 PM
“I’m still trying to figure out why Ayers is not sitting in jail.”
posted this in a headlines thread last nite — [heavy paraphrase] — “IRONY ALERT! ayers was not prosecuted because the cops, in their zeal to get him, committed some procedural errors and so charges were not pressed. i.e., the VERY SAME system he sought to destroy gave him continued freedom, freedom he would NEVER have had in che’s cuba, ugo’s venezuala or put near anywhere else. AND YET, he STILL spits in the face of the system with his few years’ ago “gulity as sin, free as a bird” tripe.
:-~
Buckaroo on August 27, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Gotta love the “God wants you to kill white people” and “White people want to destroy Islam ’cause they can’t take it over” parts.
/iSarc
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 27, 2008 at 1:40 PM
The nail-packed Weatherman bomb that went off by accident, the bomb that killed Ayers’ own girlfriend, was destined for Fort Dix, to kill and maim American soldiers. The name “Weatherman” comes from a line in a Bob Dylan song: “You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows”
RBMN on August 27, 2008 at 1:41 PM
Yes. Made in America. <singing>Look for… the Union label…</singing>
Given his status as professor of education, author of textbooks that are widely used in education curriculums as well as juvenile justice, and his active status in professional societies, wouldn’t Bill Ayers make a wonderful Secretary of Education?
NeighborhoodCatLady on August 27, 2008 at 1:44 PM
The left whining about Obama being “swiftboated” in 5…4…3…2…1…
Zetterson on August 27, 2008 at 1:44 PM
Is this what those nutty anarchist kids mean when they say they are “Speaking Truth to Power”?
azlibertarian on August 27, 2008 at 1:45 PM
McPhee: Obama links more than ‘troubling’
he Weather Underground did damage right here in Boston. On Sept. 23, 1970, BPD Officer Walter Schroeder was gunned down outside a Brighton bank that had just been robbed by five members of the Weather Underground. One of the terrorists opened fire on the cop. With bullets from a machine gun the group ripped off from a National Guard armory in Newburyport just weeks earlier, Schroeder was shot in the back and killed.
Schroeder left behind a wife and nine children, aged 17, 15, 13, 10, 9, 7, 6, 2 and 11 months. The gunman, William “Lefty” Gilday, was captured along with three accomplices. The armed getaway driver, Katherine Powers, fled and remained on the lam for 23 years. When she was finally caught, Powers was treated with the same despicable reverence that Obama’s friend Ayers has been given by the media. Like Ayers, Powers was profiled as a hapless revolutionary caught up in the tumult of the Vietnam War rather than what she truly is: a cop-killing lowlife.
TheBigOldDog on August 27, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Terrorism and bombings are okay if they’re motivated by hope and love and aspirations?
Hey Ayers, the criminals who flew planes full of people into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon and that field in Pa. were motivated by their love of Islam and Allah, and their hope and aspirations to destroy the U.S. and kill as many Americans as possible.
Idiot. You and your criminal wife belong in prison cells, not in classrooms where you can pollute impressionable young minds.
AZCoyote on August 27, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Thanks, Buckaroo. I know some of that story but it still doesn’t make sense to me. Prosecutors can always find things to prosecute people for, if they really want, and Ayers broke enough laws trying to evade police (aside from everything else) to have him put away for a lifetime.
I mean, I understand why the Puerto Rican terrorists are now free and running the streets – because Shrillary needed the Latino vote in NY and neither she nor Bill understand anything about security – but the Ayers case leaves a strange feeling.
One question that I would like to hear BHO asked is how much jail time he thought Ayers should have gotten for his crimes. I’m sure that would lead to a 23-minute “uh, um” fest and a few more choice BHO pearls of idiocy.
progressoverpeace on August 27, 2008 at 1:49 PM
These kinds of people are why the Death Penalty needs to remain legal.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 27, 2008 at 1:49 PM
Oh boy, that could get interesting. Let’s not get too buddy buddy with Hillary quite yet folks, she may not be entirely out of the running for Democrat nominee!
Zetterson on August 27, 2008 at 1:49 PM
That’s an exaggeration. She wasn’t necessarily a devotee, she just thought that killing all those people and terrorizing them beforehand was cool, man, like, far out!
misterpeasea on August 27, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Ayers’ father was rich and very well-connected in Chicago.
AZCoyote on August 27, 2008 at 1:54 PM
“Bombed with love.”
NeighborhoodCatLady on August 27, 2008 at 1:54 PM
I can’t find the link right now but it goes something like this:
Bernadette Dorn said “its cool that they sat down and ate dinner after killing those pigs” in reference to the Sharon Tate murder.
Brat on August 27, 2008 at 1:55 PM
“but the Ayers case leaves a strange feeling”
i hear ya, but put it into the context of the times — cities were burning, campuses were one step from complete breakdown, etc. etc. The local prosecutor [prolyl an older, establishment typoe himself -- hell, mebbe even a wwii vet] had to know 1. the civil unrest that surely would have accompanied any large scale weatherman trial & 2. the potential [esp. in any college town] of getting a jury with roughly the same sympathy for the defendant as MS juries of the time had for medgar evers’ killer [!!]
Buckaroo on August 27, 2008 at 1:55 PM
BO says in his clip that Ayers “is not someone I exchanged ideas from on a regular basis”.
What typical lawayer-speak. So then we can assume that you did in fact exchange ideas with Ayers, at least one time, eh Barry? What exactly does “on a regular basis” mean anyway? Once a month? Once a year? This is a “what is is” moment that should be pounced upon.MSM interrogation of Barry in 5, 4, 3… oh never mind.
max1 on August 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM
It just amazes me how quick those of the (I hate this phrase) “baby boom” generation are to forgive and forget the jerks and societal misfits like Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn and Angela Davis… What is it with people of my age group?
Duane1947 on August 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM
The only difference between Ayers and Timothy McVay is McVay is DEAD!!!
Perhaps you should give that some thought Avers!
try again later on August 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM
“Ayers’ father was rich and very well-connected in Chicago”
well then — there’s that too!
Buckaroo on August 27, 2008 at 1:57 PM
This has been a bad week for the dems, for sure. But Gustav looms in the Carribean and could hit the US in time for the RNC convention. That’ll give the left the cover they need to run from this issue. So this documentary will be forgotten by next week.
Knowing that the MSM and the Left will blame the hurricane on GWB and John “McBush”/”McSame” (or whatever juvenile name they’re using that day), the repubicans should organize a bus trip down to the coast to help with cleanup. Have Jindal greet them in Louisiana when they arrive to help.
Two weeks from now, no one will remember what any of these guys will have said (unless they royally screw up), but they will remember what they did. The MSM is chomping at the bit to show a split screen of the Republicans celebrating on one side, and a Katrina-esce disaster one the other.
pt on August 27, 2008 at 1:58 PM
Technically it’s tainted evidence as others have said above. But according to some old hippies posting at various Chicago-area blogs, Ayers rich and influential family pulled strings to get him off. They don’t think much of Ayers because they blame him and the Weather Underground terrorists for torpedoing their non-violent peace movement. The fact that this “rebel” was able to fall back on his family wealth and connections to get out of jail free while others “did the time” just pisses them off more.
capitano on August 27, 2008 at 1:58 PM
yes, as I recall, Dohrn found it particularly praiseworthy that the Manson criminals stuck a fork into the abdomen of their 8-1/2 months pregnant victim Sharon Tate (whom they had stabbed to death), and then used her blood to write “pigs” on the wall of Tate’s home.
AZCoyote on August 27, 2008 at 1:58 PM
As much as such people disgust me, the public needs to know what kind of people Obamamandias considers “close friends”. This is more than just some guy who bombed a few things “when he was young” (and incidentally when Obama-sama “was only 8″) and his little wife.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 27, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Obama is a physcopath.
Or sociopath.
He’s some kinda -path anyways.
Killing babies? Check.
Looking down on Middle America? Check.
Associating with unrepentant terrorists? Check.
Learning at the feet of Marxists and other assorted radicals? Check.
Dude’s gonna lose in a landslide. (smile)
VolMagic on August 27, 2008 at 2:00 PM
40 years ago today – see mugshot.
Aug. 27, 1968
electric-rascal on August 27, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Islam is the religon of peace.
Ayers is the bomber of love.
Orwell would be proud of America. Just like Michelle O.
petunia on August 27, 2008 at 2:01 PM
It was in reference to the murders of Leo and Rosemary LaBianco, and specifically, leaving a fork sticking out of Leo’s abdomen. She is a sick b*tch.
Blake on August 27, 2008 at 2:01 PM
I guess he had to be incredibly well connected – and at the federal level. That’s one sweet family, there.
progressoverpeace on August 27, 2008 at 2:01 PM
I am eagerly anticipating the day that the traitorous fraud that is The One is brought down by obvious truth. I just really hope it sinks in to the average voter who actually cares.
Grafted on August 27, 2008 at 2:05 PM
I wont gather legs…..the boot licker’s ( media) wont look at the evidence.
grapeknutz on August 27, 2008 at 2:07 PM
“A Marxist offshoot of the progressive SDS, the Weathermen took their name from Bob Dylan’s 1965 alienated-youth anthem “Subterranean Homesick Blues” (with the line “You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows”), and initially demonstrated their resistance to “Amerikan” imperialism through armed street clashes with police.“
byteshredder on August 27, 2008 at 2:07 PM
Well, even if Obama is elected he has enough dirty friends that he can’t possibly keep up his charade through an entire term. Impeachment is almost inevitible with friends like this… and Biden’s. It’s just a matter of time. I hope the world problems can wait until 2012…and the economy.
petunia on August 27, 2008 at 2:10 PM
I can’t find the link right now but it goes something like this:
Bernadette Dorn said “its cool that they sat down and ate dinner after killing those pigs” in reference to the Sharon Tate murder.
Brat on August 27, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Simply astonishing. And Dorn and Ayers are free on a technicality? Meanwhile, the Left holds these cretins in higher esteem than our courageous soldiers. Savage is right — liberalism is a mental disorder! (And I don’t necessarily agree 100% with Savage’s tactics or views, just saying he’s spot-on in this particular observation).
Dariaanne on August 27, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Hooo boy, front and center on the RNC ads coming out soon.
Hear that skittering? It’s moderate dems/blue-dog rats preparing to jump the good ship Baracky.
Bishop on August 27, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Guess Ayers and Dorn are also big fans of Obama’s stance on infanticide….
Dariaanne on August 27, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Don’t know if its been mentioned yet:
Bill Ayers-”Guilty as sin, free as a bird”.
I don’t care if you were eight when Ayers committed his crimes, Baracky, the guy is ADMITTING his guilt right now.
Bishop on August 27, 2008 at 2:13 PM
I found that story really lacking, and also wonder why this has taken so long to surface, since Rosen’s book came out months ago. It doesn’t challenge Ayers on the fact that the Weathermen had planned to blow up a Ft. Dix dance when their Greenwich Village townhouse blew up instead, nor does it mention the recent revelations by John Murtagh who narrowly escaped with his life as a 9 year old boy.
From Allah’s Wiki link to Sgt. Brian McDonnell, It appears that Mark “Deep Throat” Felt is the loser most responsible for the fact that Ayers and Dorhn are free as birds today. Here’s an interesting interview with Dorhn’s sister Jennifer (an unrepentant terrorist wannabe) about Mark Felt.
Buy Danish on August 27, 2008 at 2:13 PM
I understand the context, but I just don’t see those excuses holding well. I’m not saying that those weren’t the reasons offered for not pursuing Ayers, just that I don’t buy them, myself. The case was federal, so I don’t think that juries were a problem and the chaos of the time was due to groups like the Weatherman. The payoff angle sounds much more likely to me.
Right, but my point was that there were so many different crimes to charge Ayers with (including crossing state lines, blah blah) that the prosecutor could have picked and chosen a whole bunch, if he had so wanted. Al Capone, another well-connected Chicagoan, couldn’t be taken down on his actual crimes, either, so they got him for taxes and put him in jail for life. That’s the way my thinking goes on the Ayers case.
progressoverpeace on August 27, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Here’s a question for Obama – how does he feel about the terrorists of ALF and ELF?
After all, their acts are done to minimize any harm to anyone.
Keith_Indy on August 27, 2008 at 2:15 PM
Devastating…
CliffHanger on August 27, 2008 at 2:19 PM
That’s not THE Barack Obama I knew…..
SDarchitect on August 27, 2008 at 2:20 PM
oh look…bill ayers has a website…billayers.org. Terrific. Yet no contact information, sadly.
On his wiki page there’s a quote from him claiming that he wouldn’t rule out setting bombs again.
Seems he blew up a police memorial in Chicago, twice, until Daley the elder set a 24hr guard on the rebuilt monument. Ironic that he’s now working with Daley’s offspring “reforming” the Chicago public schools. Wonder how the sr. Daley would have taken that tidbit of information.
hippie_chucker on August 27, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Anyone ever wonder why it is so very hard to get a Top Secret clearance? Try getting a basic job with the CIA, NSA, Secret Service, etc. They’ll flush you in about 12 nano-seconds. And here, we have a guy with KNOWN associations with people we KNOW are bad people and he’ll gain access to “the codes”?! How is that supposed to work? It CAN’T work for cripes’ sake!
HomeoftheBrave on August 27, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Obama’s years-long association with Ayers is bad, very bad. But what might turn out to be worse is that when given the opportunity to unequivocally denounce and distance himself from him, he didn’t.
“This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood… detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old…” Not anywhere near good enough, Barry. What’s it gonna take? If Ayers came out like Jeremiah Wright and said you were acting like a typical politician would that be enough for you to “disown” him in no uncertain terms?
Gilda on August 27, 2008 at 2:21 PM
In a true karmically balanced, no justice, no peace world, I’d put him to work quality controlling hand grenades, one by one…..
hippie_chucker on August 27, 2008 at 2:24 PM
yeah he has no problem demanding I apologize for acts 500 years ago but can’t castigate his mentor for acts 35 years ago???
come on now Barry some of us can count.
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Too bad they weren’t driven by Ted Kennedy.
Vashta.Nerada on August 27, 2008 at 2:29 PM
ha leftoids areteaching young impressionable people on both sides with their running interference for Barry with this is that hey like the Muslims if you want to get your way kill some folks.
It beggars my imagination they did not vett him.
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Too bad they weren’t driven by Ted Kennedy.
Vashta.Nerada on August 27, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Well said. :-)
coldwarrior on August 27, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Um…. what? This is not even a sentence much less a thought.
http://thepajamapundit.com/
thePajamaPundit on August 27, 2008 at 2:43 PM
detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old…
Hmmmmmm. It occurs to me that it’s germane to ask:
Did Barry disagree with Jeremiah Wright’s demands for reparations for slavery, and how does he feel about the fact that Leah Daughtry was chosen by Howard Dean to be the Democratic Convention CEO?
Buy Danish on August 27, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Apologies keyboard battery needed changing.
The leftoids do not grasp that by running interfernce on this issue, as wihthe hysteria over Club Gitmo they are snding the message to the youth of Amrica that homicidal activism is a winning proposition. Te democrats reward you for “progressive terrorism” and frankly if it is “reactionary terrorism” on a big enough scale they will look the other way as much as possible.
(looking squarely at the WTC and various Madrassas collecting terr money here)
In the end Chicago by welcoming and in fact legitimizing Ayers has taken the step of saying “so he was peripherally involved in multiple political murders…he has some really nifty ideas on educationg our kids who cares?”
Well I do, and I am betting on the national stage so do a lot of other folks.
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 2:54 PM
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I read the frontpagemag.com testimony and I did listen (Horowitz is about half way in the clip). Ayers sounds like David Koresh. We need to send the frontpage.com testimony to Anita Hill. Feminists should be storming in to protect college girls from this creep.
Mark30339 on August 27, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Unelectable as POTUS.
When are these ads going to mention the plot to blow up service members at the Ft Dix NCO dance?
Great ad but I personally think it could add a lot more punch.
moxie_neanderthal on August 27, 2008 at 3:00 PM
RE: ” [ Ayers ] also insists that the bombs they set were calculated so as not to harm anyone…”
Then why were his friends and fellow terrorists assembling a “nail” bomb when their townhouse exploded? They were planning to explode an anti-personnel device at an NCO dance at Fort Dix. Their targets were the troops, their dates and their spouses.
Laurence on August 27, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Another good read is Fire in the Night by John M. Murtagh.
Andy McCarthy’s got a good post at The Corner, too, with more background and quotes from Ayers.
Quisp on August 27, 2008 at 3:09 PM
In a forum group I belong to, a leftard actually made the ‘argument’ that he would prefer Ayers as President to McCain because Ayers had obviously “thought long and hard on the issues of education and the environment” and that his crimes were of little or no importance. Where exactly do people like this manage to ‘think’ these sorts of notions are even remotely the sort to express openly as an example of viable political thought?
bigdada on August 27, 2008 at 3:12 PM
They are trying to camoflouge it as “we were just a bunch of pacifist idealistic kids who wanted to increase justice”….except their idea of justice involved nail bombs and dress blues.
For the initial stab at this cynical attempt to remodulate the violence in their activities go weatch the Robert Redford flick ‘Sneakers’…..
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 3:13 PM
That is the point I was trying to convey in my mangled rambling posts above. The left simply does not get that in trying to absolve themselves of their political violence to protect barry and his buddies they are in fact legitimizing it.
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 3:14 PM
He also insists that the bombs they set were calculated so as not to harm anyone, a claim Fox seems to take at his word. Really?
Didn’t he lose a girlfriend and a few others when one of those love notes exploded in their apartment?
DanMan on August 27, 2008 at 3:14 PM
opps, scratch that. Laurence beat me to it.
DanMan on August 27, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Contact info for unrepentant terrorist… Keep it kinder then the left.
http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=billayers.org
Registrant Name:Bill Ayers
Registrant Organization:Bill Ayers
Registrant Street1:UIC – College of Education
Registrant Street2:1040 W Harrison M/C 147
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Chicago
Registrant State/Province:Illinois
Registrant Postal Code:60607
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.3129969689
Keith_Indy on August 27, 2008 at 3:16 PM
I noticed something else on watching this video…
Note the rate of Obama’s eye blinks beginning at 1:45 in the video.
I’m no body language expert, but those blinks tell me that something is going on in Obama’s head there. Either he is very uncomfortable at the question, or he is being disingenuous with his answer.
azlibertarian on August 27, 2008 at 3:18 PM
I think the Clintons annointed that line of argument as legitimate when Bill pardoned the Puerto Rican terrorists. Interestingly, the FALN did some bombings in the Chicago area.
progressoverpeace on August 27, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Good video……right up until the time Huckabee’s mug appeared on screen.
Time for a re-edit.
The Ugly American on August 27, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Yawn. Senator Obama was a child when this happened.
philnewkirk on August 27, 2008 at 3:35 PM
He was not a child when this was going on into the ’80s. Hardly a child when he allied himself to a self-admitted terrorist.
Nice try though it’d be akin to saying it is ok to ally yourself with the guys in Darfur since I was um 6 when it started….
er “no” no sale.
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Whatever. I don’t believe these cooked up memes.
philnewkirk on August 27, 2008 at 3:38 PM
right back at ya.
Donks: well sure his first fundraiser was with the guy, and yeah h got his first serious leadership job from the guy, and certainly he attended multiple meetings with the guy, and of course he consulted with the guy on Chicago issues, but you know it is not like Ayers had ANY influence on Barry….
erm “ok”.
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Doesn’t matter to me.
philnewkirk on August 27, 2008 at 3:43 PM
and that is as much a character statement of the “chimpy legions” who demonize Bush for engaging in policy but back Barry who meets with a dimestore Arafat wannabe repeatedly as it does about barry’s judgement.
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 3:45 PM
I haven’t been able to figure that out. I remember being in college when Ayers’ co-idiots blew themselves up and hearing a few of my “peers” expressing sympathy. I was like “WTF do you find heroic about a group of morons that, if not for their stupidity, could’ve killed a bunch of innocent people?” Obviously I never received a coherent answer.
Captain Hate on August 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM
It was the ’70s…..a bunch of people whipped into mega-hysteria with regards to “right-wing fascism” and a lot of loosening of sexual mores and inhibitions on drug use…..
hey that sounds eerily familiar.
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 3:51 PM
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