Good news: GOP platform drops drilling in ANWR in deference to McCain
posted at 4:40 pm on August 27, 2008 by Allahpundit
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He told the Standard last week that he would continue to “examine” the issue, which is McCain’s go-to buzzword whenever he’s uncomfortable with a subject and wants to head off being questioned about it. Ah well. Looks like the examination’s over. Guess which special, special lady is getting an extra sympathy write-in vote in New York this year.
Members of the GOP platform committee voted Wednesday to stick with an energy plank that doesn’t mention drilling in the refuge, saying it would only highlight an area where they differ with the Arizona senator. McCain opposes drilling in that protected land, and some committee members said they would rather bring him around on the issue once he’s in the White House than widen their disagreement now.
“He’s not there yet,” said delegate Jeff Grossman of Oregon. “Prudence would dictate that we leave the text as it is until our candidate catches up with us.”…
The platform being debated acknowledges a human role in increased carbon emissions that are warming the atmosphere, while also calling for climate change policies that are “global in nature, based on sound science and technology” and don’t hurt the economy. The document also decries “no-growth radicalism” and says solutions should not “force Americans to sacrifice their way of life or trim their hopes and dreams for their children.”
Committee member Trey Grayson of Kentucky called the document “the greenest platform we’ve ever had.”
A Fox News poll in June showed a five-point improvement in support for drilling in ANWR since 2006; a Pew poll taken a few weeks later showed an eight-point improvement in just four months. Even our favorite liberal, an Alaska native, says it’s high time we put ANWR to use. Exit question: How many GOP bigwigs will mislead America at the convention by falsely suggesting McCain supports opening it up?
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It’s Political Jenga: John McCain Edition. I like this sequel even less than I liked the original Hillary Clinton Edition. As much free building up they get from Obama, they’re ever so eager to pull out a few pieces (try a little bad campaigning here, a little amnesty there, some “don’t drill in ANWR” over there, see how it goes) on their own. Well done, guys.
OneGyT on August 27, 2008 at 5:37 PM
McCain, like all moderates, doesn’t believe in anything and that’s the problem with moderates. They’re more than willing to blow with the wind because they have no core principles. I wonder how much the temptation to appeal to disgruntled Hillary voters, rather then the GOP base, will detemine his VP pick.
DerKrieger on August 27, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Just who the hell are these idiots at the GOP platform committee? They need to be identified and castigated for the perverse ideas that they are coming up with. First it was global warming and now this! Whats next? Get the troops out of Iraq right now? Talk about turning off the electorate.
cjs1943 on August 27, 2008 at 5:38 PM
With all these lame defenses of John McCain you are going to need more than luck. You are going to need lithium.
Sigmund on August 27, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Even if it wasn’t his decision, it was done to prevent the platform from contradicting him, and for that reason alone.
And as far as McCain’s supposed support for offshore drilling, he’s made that contingent on the approval of the coastal states- even when the drilling would take place many miles off their shores. If Florida says “no”, then no drilling (which they will, and he knows it), and McCain gets an excuse to oppose something he’s traditionally opposed even while pretending to be open to it.
Note no such caveat when it comes to ANWR- he knows that Alaska is in favor of it, and thus won’t say he’s open to it based on local support.
Hollowpoint on August 27, 2008 at 5:39 PM
1975
DerKrieger on August 27, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Screw it… going for the long shot!
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 27, 2008 at 5:40 PM
ryandan on August 27, 2008 at 5:31 PM
This thread is about hammering and ridiculing anyone who might support McCain, please stay on topic.
Bishop on August 27, 2008 at 5:40 PM
2008
DerKrieger on August 27, 2008 at 5:40 PM
I thought you said ‘Casterated’ and I thought, boy that’s pretty harsh…then I re-read your post.
PappaMac on August 27, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Correct, because McCain appologists won’t take a look at his actual POSITIONS.
Tell me… McCain is IN the Senate… where is the McCain Drill here Drill now Bill?
Talk talk talk… and yet he himself cast the bill that killed ANWAR a few years back. He was NOT for offshore drilling UNTIL it became politicly expedient.
And he is STILL for Cap and Trade… its in HIS position papers.
Deal breakers for this conservative.
And I know… here will come the usual “if you don’t vote for McCain you are voting for Obama” crap… which many of us now view as the attitude which has led us to NOT having any type of a conservative candidate.
Romeo13 on August 27, 2008 at 5:41 PM
>Well if you look up and read the top of the page, you could see that Jeff Grossman of Oregon is the guy.
.
“Whats next? Get the troops out of Iraq right now? “
well, I’ve got bad news for you on that as well….
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Even if I vote for McCain, he’s not my candidate. Watch your VP pick McCain, it’s all you got left. Screw that up, and I’m done.
Weight of Glory on August 27, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Obviously McCain doesn’t understand federalism. The States don’t have any rights 50 miles out to sea. That is Federal territory and if the ban on drilling is lifted the states shouldn’t be able to do a damn thing about it.
DerKrieger on August 27, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Gawd, I wish this would turn into an argument over Huckabee, Giuliani and Romney yet again, get some heat off of me for daring to support McCain even the tiniest bit.
Bishop on August 27, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Well, it is now a two man race between Obama and McCain. And only one of them will be the next president. Obama. Or McCain.
Since you asked.
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 5:43 PM
ANWR isn’t good for anything but drilling. The only thing that lives there is mosquitoes, have they become an endangered species?
The Republican party is like a bad child that needs to have its allowance taken away. They don’t listen yet they expect our support. They will not get my support until they give me some support on the things that matter. We need to drill ANWR and get that oil and that’s not the only place we need to drill.
And if they are going to mention global warming in the planks, then the plank should call global warming out for what it is, a hoax. Republicans should vow to cut all funding for global warming research so we can put those millions of dollars to good use and stop paying the hucksters with our hard earned tax money.
Maxx on August 27, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Pelosi and the Democrats won’t allow drilling in ANWR, but neither would McCain.
Pelosi and the Democrats won’t oppose amnesty, but neither would McCain.
Pelosi and the Democrats won’t oppose an expensive and pointless “cap and trade” carbon scheme, but neither would McCain.
Hollowpoint on August 27, 2008 at 5:44 PM
From Powerline Blog
I suspect that many global warming alarmists are well aware that time is running out for them. If nothing is done and global temperatures decline in coming years–as they inevitably will, the only question is when–the alarmists will have been refuted. On the other hand, if they succeed in pushing through industry-destroying caps on carbon emissions around the world, and especially here in the U.S., they will take credit for the cooling when it comes, claiming it as vindication of their theories.
In that context, the 2008 election shapes up as very important. I don’t worry too much about John McCain’s acknowledged lack of economic expertise, as his instincts on the economy are generally conservative. But McCain badly needs to educate himself on the debate currently raging over the climate. “Global warming” represents the Left’s most ambitious power grab since the fall of Communism, and if a Republican President doesn’t stand it its way, who will?
DerKrieger on August 27, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Do I detect a large note of victimhood in your attempt at sarcasm? If so maybe you should start on the lithium right now.
Sigmund on August 27, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Will someone tell me why … just why … the GOP is capitualting to “global warming hysteria” when the evidence for such is ZERO?
More people believe GW doesn’t exist than do. More people want use to use our own damned resources than don’t.
The GOP base wants BALLS, not meely mouthed squirming on issues that demand a firm stance.
darwin on August 27, 2008 at 5:45 PM
And republicans will never get Pelosi and Reid to ever change their minds. And that can’t be said of McCain.
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Probably for the same reason the Gang of Ten is now Sixteen – Liberal Republicans from Blue states who fear losing this Nov. Career over principle.
DerKrieger on August 27, 2008 at 5:47 PM
ANWR is not going anywhere. I think that we will drill there someday. Unless we find alternatives that are actually workable, reasonable and affordable.
McCain has changed his mind on off shore drilling and he supports nuclear power. Hopefully, this will change as well. If not now, later.
Terrye on August 27, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Another vote for lame defense of John McCain over hydrogen. I just have to wonder if this web site is providing an unbiased random sample.
Sigmund on August 27, 2008 at 5:47 PM
personally, I don’t think that McCain is quite as stupid as many people believe him to be. He’s in an environment where he can make false steps, if he doesn’t take care. He rightly, shouldn’t let the opposition know all of his cards. This is a guy who was tortured by “professionals”. Good luck John, and best wishes.
bigmike on August 27, 2008 at 5:49 PM
And besides, we know for sure the Democrats are not interested in supporting anything like this.
Terrye on August 27, 2008 at 5:49 PM
And someday we will all be dead.
Sigmund on August 27, 2008 at 5:49 PM
sigmund:
It is not lame, the fact is you have two choices and neither of them support drilling in ANWR. Now you can throw the baby out with the baby water or you can face that simple reality. Whichever.
Terrye on August 27, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Do I detect a large note of victimhood in your attempt at sarcasm? If so maybe you should start on the lithium right now.
Sigmund on August 27, 2008 at 5:44 PM
I apologize, I’ll join the chorus of Bush-voters who are teetering on the overcrowded podium marked “Rock Ribbed Conservative”.
Bishop on August 27, 2008 at 5:50 PM
I am a John McCain supporter, but at times I wonder if he wants to win the Presidency as much as his campaign staff and supporters do?
Sarah Palin is the best choice he can make for Veep and this crap about ANWR is getting to the point of being unbelievable. I for one do not care about the welfare of 10 billion mosquitoes. Drill there.
Jdripper on August 27, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Hopefully some sooner than others.
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 5:51 PM
It takes more than 1 to make a committee. Who are the other dumb-asses?
cjs1943 on August 27, 2008 at 5:52 PM
I voted for Bush and I support drilling in ANWR, but Bush was not able to get this done even when the Republicans controlled Congress and he supported it. So it is not just about McCain, there is other opposition out there.
Terrye on August 27, 2008 at 5:52 PM
when Queeg does these things I just can’t get the image of him trying to buzz the tower and crashing out of my mind…..
MAVERICK!!!!!!
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Jdripper:
McCain is not going to win or lose on either ANWR or Palin. Most Americans do not even know who she is and Bush supports drilling in ANWR. How much has that helped him? Not much so far as I can tell.
Terrye on August 27, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Another case of lame defense of John McCain over hydrogen. Hydrogen is suppose to be the most abundance thing in the universe so I can only conclude that I must have stumbled into some kind tear in the space/time continuum.
Sigmund on August 27, 2008 at 5:54 PM
HYDROGEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Sigmund:
Just a tad melodramatic aren’t we? Support for drilling in ANWR is higher than it has been in the past. My point is that in the future I think there will be more support, perhaps from parties. The higher prices will change public opinion even more and as times passes I think people will have more faith in the newer and safer drilling technology.
Terrye on August 27, 2008 at 5:56 PM
And besides, we know for sure the Democrats are not interested in supporting anything like this.
Terrye on August 27, 2008 at 5:49 PM
True, but you’re not understanding that the GOP can only choose a guy who is so conservative that he or she would make Rush Limbaugh seem like Al Franken. It’s why so many of those who hate McCain with unbridled passion voted twice for Dubya The Ironclad Reaganite.
Bishop on August 27, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Sigmund:
There is nothing lame about it. It is the truth. The Democrats are not showing any inclination right now to supporting this and you do not have any other choice. Now if it makes you feel better to rant at McCain until spittle runs down your chin and your eyeballs pop out of your head, be my guest.
Terrye on August 27, 2008 at 5:58 PM
And McCain is known for changing long held positions? He tried to hint that he did during the primaries when he said he “got the message” regarding amnesty, but then promply fell back to his default position.
He’s not changing is mind with regards to ANWR or amnesty- that’s just not John McCain. He (inexplicably) got the nomination while still holding on to opposition to drilling and defending his amnesty stance- he’ll see that as validation and stick to “cap and trade” and his other unconservative positions.
If the rest of the country is dumb enough to elect Obama, so be it. But count me out either way- I’ll not validate the distinct shift to the left by the Republican party by voting McCain. Even if it sounds completely irrational and petulant (and it is), I want both of them to lose, and neither of them to win.
Hollowpoint on August 27, 2008 at 5:58 PM
.
Message recieved mi amigo…now pardon me I need to go jaw with La Raza…..
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Shale and Offshore drilling were not mentioned at all in the last platform. Perhaps a “comprehensive” energy plan that opens up all avenues of domestive oil production and not just ANWR?
myamphibian on August 27, 2008 at 6:02 PM
I notice a lot of the “let’s help McCain lose” people ignored this part of the article.
DethMetalCookieMonst on August 27, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Bishop:
Well I voted for Bush and I still like the man.
I thought a lot of people went completely over board on Harriet Miers {so much for the whole the president has the right to pick his own nominee and that nominee should get an up or down vote}…I thought the whole Dubai thing was stupid. Once again, a lot of people went off the deep end as if it were really reasonable to believe that Bush would sell our ports to terrorists so that they could kill us all{or whatever the charge was} and then there was the whole North American Union/Jorge Bush fiasco that went way way overboard.
I have grown accustomed to excitable people making outrageous charges. The truth is, there is always something for some people to bitch about.
Terrye on August 27, 2008 at 6:04 PM
myamphipbian:
That sounds reasonable. But why be reasonable?
Terrye on August 27, 2008 at 6:06 PM
It really is maddening to think ‘what if’ with politics. Bush was not very conservative, as was his dad. But Reagan picked Bush senior despite his ‘voodoo economics’ comments. Reagan believed in party unity. Reagan urged his fellow republicans to observe the 11th commandment. This was an attempt to compromise and agree to disagree within the party. But this is slipping away.
And with Bush Senior, a lot of people were pissed at his breaking the ‘no new taxes pledge.’ some decided not to support him because he was not conservative enough. With the help of Ross Perot, we got 8 years of Clinton. Woo hoo. And how did that work out for all of us? I doubt that even hydrogen boy even cares.
And with the choice from 2000? Bush beat McCain and went up against Al Gore. If Bush was the lesser of two evils, should Gore have won? And what would his response to 9/11 have been? Bush’s answer was to croak the most number of terrorists. Again, for 2004, should the lesser of two evils loose? And Kerry been elected? And the surge would never have happened and Iraq will not look anything like it’s doing now. So here we are. The crappy McCain who won’t drill in ANWR and wants to be nice to illegal immigrants and Obama. I wonder what an obama presidency will be like.
Let’s find out, shall we?!?!? Sounds like a plan. I’m sure mouth breather hydrogen boy is all for it. As long as we punich McCain, right?
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 6:06 PM
Hollowpoint:
No he did not. McCain is still saying that he supports border security first. You don’t have to believe that if you don’t want to, but he did not fall back on anything.
Terrye on August 27, 2008 at 6:07 PM
Really? Fully 1/3 of the American electorate are now registered as Independent, or third party.
Add in the disaffected semi conservative Democrats.
Add in the disenfranchised Social Conservative, and Economic Conservative registered Repubs…
And I bet you suddenly have HALF of the electorate who is disgusted with your two party system. The only thing that keeps it going is people like you who try to convince people that there ARE ONLY TWO CHOICES.
Romeo13 on August 27, 2008 at 6:08 PM
And if you aren’t smoking some illegal substance, I suggest you start. Because your logic might start to make sense. Because one of them will win. And one of them will loose. And we will all participate.
I’m just speaking the truth to you.
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 6:09 PM
Also, the GOP said they would drop ANWR from it’s election platform. They didn’t say they would switch it to a “No drilling in ANWR” platform.
DethMetalCookieMonst on August 27, 2008 at 6:09 PM
And then said that his FIRST priority would be “comprehensive immigration reform”… code for amnesty…
No, I don’t believe him.
Romeo13 on August 27, 2008 at 6:10 PM
History and experience have proven that 3rd party/write-in candidates stand no chance, at least in the presidential race, at least for now. They have no further purpose than to draw votes away from one or other of the two main candidates.
This may change in the future. But not this year.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 27, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Ahh … more logic for the page. That’s good to see.
Maybe all is not yet lost.
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Good point. Desperately looking for something positive here:)
Buy Danish on August 27, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Terrye on August 27, 2008 at 6:04 PM
I’m with you, I voted for him too and from what I can glean without actually meeting him (though I did shake his hand at his 2004 Minnesota campaign stop), I can say I like the guy. Perfect conservative, no, but leagues ahead of his DFL competition.
This is what politics is all about, though there seems to be an impression that no one will ever have their mind changed so why try or why not “teach them a lesson”. With Obama, such a lesson would be sorely learned.
Bishop on August 27, 2008 at 6:13 PM
…. or “punish” him.
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 6:13 PM
so…. Lincoln was a Whig? Musta missed that part of history class.
Romeo13 on August 27, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Powers is also from Alaska? Between her and Palin, I might have to take a trip up to Anchorage to see what the women look like for m’self…
MB007 on August 27, 2008 at 6:15 PM
says more about your history class than your scholarship my friend….
Lincoln was a Whig and a big believer in the American system of state subsidy of some business.
Lincoln was a Whig
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 6:15 PM
The only thing that keeps it going is people like you who try to convince people that there ARE ONLY TWO CHOICES.
Romeo13 on August 27, 2008 at 6:08 PM
Or people like you blaming it on others who keep people like you from doing what you desire; sounds liberal to me, no offense meant.
So what are you waiting for, pick your candidate and start the process, this is America after all.
Bishop on August 27, 2008 at 6:16 PM
Actually, he was:
If I remember correctly, that was about the time the Whig party was dying.
When that starts happening to one of the two current parties, you can try that example again. ;)
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 27, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Thank you my good sir.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 27, 2008 at 6:18 PM
I actualy knew that, so save your snark. He WAS a Whig, yet was elected as part of a NEW PARTY…
Point is that Parties do come and go… and I think its time for some changes in the American political system. The two parties not only feel entitled to power, but have shown it by how they have run the government.
If the electorate THAN had followed the false choice that some here want to give us… of ONLY voting for one of the two existing parties and perpetuating their stranglehold on power? We’d still have a Whig party now wouldn’t we.
Romeo13 on August 27, 2008 at 6:21 PM
With 1/3 of the electorate being registered independent? I think it already has started.
Romeo13 on August 27, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Bush said the same thing about McCain-Kennedy, and was just as credible. I didn’t believe Bush then, and I don’t believe McCain now. He’s talking about the border being secure by 2009, and his definition of “secure” is the governors of border states saying so. No real benchmarks, no waiting for the fence to be built- just signatures on a piece of paper.
Hollowpoint on August 27, 2008 at 6:26 PM
PWussiesklickink.wordpress.com on August 27, 2008 at 6:29 PM
McCain is not going to win or lose on either ANWR or Palin. Most Americans do not even know who she is and Bush supports drilling in ANWR. How much has that helped him? Not much so far as I can tell.
Terrye on August 27, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Well, you can say the same thing regarding Bush on the War on Terror. And how much has opposing ANWR helped Pelosi and the 14% approval rating of her Dimocrat Congress?
The 10 billion barrels of recoverable American oil in ANWR is as much of a national security issue as dropping bombs on tents full of terrorists in Afghanistan, and probably much more so.
TexasJew on August 27, 2008 at 6:30 PM
I already acknowledged (in the part you didn’t quote) that it was irrational. Conservatives lose no matter which of the two candidates win, so I’d just assume not play at all.
Hollowpoint on August 27, 2008 at 6:30 PM
you may want to learn to use a /sarc tag then….
Fact is the Whigs by imploding decided that the Donks needed power in semi-perpetuity. People forget that by the GOP weakening its infrastructure and fracturing it took away the last check on the Democrats who should have been fractured enough to allow the Whigs to drive wedges to forestall a civil war. Instead the GOP ran Fremont into a wall until enough backroom deals had been made to develop a big enough coalition to ride out the donk implosion that was the wick to set the bomb off.
I’d really rather not go through 8-12 years of a moonbat bobsled course while the “new super duper will pull at most 32% of the electorate” party sets up its ground game. You seem to be thinking the donks would be doing something other than Great Society II policy wise and trying to reenact “Battleship Potemkin” socially.
I don’t have that illusion.
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 6:31 PM
My previous comment stands.
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 6:32 PM
Thanks goodness, the Brits are catching on:
Maxx on August 27, 2008 at 6:33 PM
If you want to throw your vote away, that’s your business I suppose. It’s not an option for me.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 27, 2008 at 6:36 PM
Zombie Reagan needs my support and vote. Well, that and braaaaains.
Hollowpoint on August 27, 2008 at 6:41 PM
Here’s something else to think about.
Perhaps the GOP are saying that AGW is on the platform because if it wasn’t, do you honestly believe the average American would believe the GOP when they say they want alternative fuels? They would say “oh, they’re just in big oil’s pocket”. Also, “belief” in AGW is the only way they’ll be able to convince the people in having more nuclear power plants built.
DethMetalCookieMonst on August 27, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Amusing, but illogical. Sorry, can’t afford to play along.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 27, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Fighting the good fight against the LYING LIARS WHO LIE ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN, _man?
The funny part is, John McCain is one of those LYING LIARS WHO LIE ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN!!!
Still waiting for you to give me an example of a LYING LIE I’ve TOLD ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN!!!
misterpeasea on August 27, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Wow, look. The troll is back.
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Yes, _man, I’m the troll. I’m the cheerleader who defends the indefensible without a shred of logic, or even substance, and then calls everybody who disagrees with me a secret Obama supporter. I’m the one who tells the trash who disagrees with me to go on over to Kos or HuffPo.
Keep giving, gift.
misterpeasea on August 27, 2008 at 7:00 PM
Are the Democrats PAYING McCain to lose?
HornetSting on August 27, 2008 at 7:03 PM
You do realize that what you’re talking about hasn’t been said for over a month now. Well, except you repeatedly bring this up, and keep it alive. Every week. Repeatedly.
So you are trolling me. With something that I don’t do. And you seem to enjoy it immensely. In other words, you are acting like an internet troll. All because your feelings were hurt. And now you feel justified in perpetrating this same behavior over, and over and over again. In other words,
Repeatedly.
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Oh lovely. MORE Blood in the Water.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 27, 2008 at 7:13 PM
I’m sick of this maverick BS. McCain want’s to “examine” the issue? How long does that f’in take? I guess as long as he plans to “look into” questions about Juan Hernandez. This makes me sick. His opposition on ANWR makes no logical sense and its pathetic. Get on a damn plane to Alaska senator and get a clue.
CP on August 27, 2008 at 7:14 PM
My feelings were hurt? No, _man, just the opposite. You’re amusing and entertaining. You never, ever, back up your accusations. You never, ever, back up your defense of the indefensible. You alternate between victim and bully. You accuse others of doing what you do.
By the way, I love the passive voice. You didn’t say it, it was said.
Now, back to McSquish. Did he vote to give Social Security to illegal aliens? Or am I a LYING LIAR WHO LIES ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN!?
misterpeasea on August 27, 2008 at 7:26 PM
Exactly.
I have left the GOP (soon to be re-named Democrap Lite). These moderates can have it.
Zorro on August 27, 2008 at 7:27 PM
So you’re going to continue to act like an internet troll, I see. Well have fun. And do please keep doing this, repeatedly. If this makes you happy. I just find it a little bit ironic that you are doing this in retaliation, and it’s now happened dozens of times more than the original event that you are constantly repeating here. And you don’t understand that you only look as the childish person you are. I hope you aren’t this childish to people in your real life.\
For your sake.
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 7:39 PM
second look at bob barr
Conservative Voice on August 27, 2008 at 7:44 PM
For your sake you must make an appointment with whomever of my colleagues is first available as you have a very serious case of multiple issues including but not necessarily limited to personality projection, cognitive dissonance, masochism and displaced equilibrium.
Sigmund on August 27, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Fact of life: Moderates win elections. Now, conservatives can nip at the heels of McCain to keep him honest once he is in the White House. The scenario of promoting conservative positions is not as likely with an Obama presidency and a Dem majority in Congress.
Fight like heck to get conservatives into Congress, where actual legislation is passed. It’s time to string up Pelosi and Reid. They have more power than any president does.
For the pouters who have opted to be rebellious Independents, I guess you would be thrilled with a Barr/Huckabee ticket. How does that work out for you as you nurse your self-righteous grievance?
McCain must make a veep choice from outside the Beltway and definitely outside the legislature.
Romney would be able to step in to the presidency with both feet on the ground running should McCain falter. Think big picture.
onlineanalyst on August 27, 2008 at 8:08 PM
And hydrogen. Don’t forget hydrogen Sigmund.
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 8:15 PM
They incapable of seeing past their own outstretched arm.
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Not a huge deal. He can always add it later. Heck, he can announce it during his acceptance speech if he wants and really make a splash.
Dusty on August 27, 2008 at 8:20 PM
General Petreas needs to take Mac out to the ANWR wilderness with a gas guzzling tank, and show him where the bear defecates in the woods.
Mark30339 on August 27, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Back there someone said they’re jumping ship if mac screws up the vp pick after this nonsense (which is incidentally contrary to the overwhelming will of the constituents).
Make room in the lifeboat. I’m right behind you.
cgoode777 on August 27, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Ah, _man. Alternately childish and matoor. Alternately the victim and the bully. Alternately reasonable and shrieking. Alternately whining and strident.
You’re priceless, _man. I wouldn’t trade you for any other party loyalist in the world. Even the other McCain apologists are embarrassed by you.
So. Did McCain vote to give Social Security to illegal aliens? And if he did, tell me how that reflects the fact that he’s a conservative with an 82.6 rating from the ACU. Because I know you know.
misterpeasea on August 27, 2008 at 9:05 PM
erm uh uhm he voted against flag burning…sort of…um uh.
Yeah those ratings can be pretty meaningless.
sven10077 on August 27, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Oh. My. Goodness. _man, you are the most oblivious person I’ve ever encountered.
Incapable of seeing past outstretched arms.
For example, blindly voting for the guy with the (R) after his name, no matter what the long-term consequences to the country, conservatism, and the Republican Party?
Or, say, claiming that Lieberman is an independent because he has an (I) after his name?
Because the big picture only includes up to, and no further than, Nov. 5. After that, there are no more elections, there are no more tomorrows.
The big picture does not include contemplating trying to stop the leftward drift of the Republican Party. It does not include considering that rewarding John McCain’s behavior might lead to more John McCains.
Keep giving, gift.
misterpeasea on August 27, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Good job GOP no money from me! Asshat clowns! Drill everywhere theres oil we have the know how, the technology, the supply. Wake up GOP/John McCain!
dhunter on August 27, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Still acting like the immature little brat that you are I see.
And in addition to that, you repeatedly advocate against the republican, knowing that either Obama or McCain will win, and the other will loose. This is exactly what the democrats want. For McCain to loose. The democrats who read this page and see your tireless efforts to destroy McCain must absolutely love you for the advocacy on their behalf. As you keep saying, but completely fitting to you. Keep giving, gift.
For the democrats.
wise_man on August 27, 2008 at 9:54 PM
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