Rich Lowry goes there: Huckabee for VP?
posted at 11:20 am on August 26, 2008 by Allahpundit
Not the first time Lowry’s blown this little bubble, do note. And in both cases he’s punctuated his thought with words to the effect of, “Too bad he’s so awful on economics and national security and pretty much everything else.” Yeah, too bad.
But wouldn’t Huckabee make a lot of sense given the things we’ve learned the last two weeks? 1) McCain might have a “wealth problem,” and certainly Democrats are going to try to hit his wealth for all its worth in their play for working-class voters; Huckabee doesn’t have a problem on this front, and has lots of working-class cred. 2) The pro-choice trial balloon hasn’t been well received, and it’s clear that a pro-choice nominee would create a major disruption; Huckabee is pro-life. 3) Obama picked Biden who is going to a vivid presence (for better or worse) on the stump and could be formidable in debate; Huckabee is a great campaigner and might be just the guy to puncture Biden in a debate. 4) (This is a less important point.) The McCain folks have made a huge deal about differences between Obama and Biden during the primaries; McCain and Huckabee didn’t have much in the way of differences and went out of their way to praise each other.
The only one that’s persuasive is number three, and really, how important will the VP debate be? Huck’s blue-collar-ness won’t get McCain off the hook for his wealth, and needless to say, there are other pro-life candidates available who are blessedly unblemished by an anti-McCain record — the current frontrunner notably excepted. In fact, almost everything here applies as well to Pawlenty as it does to Huckabee. The big difference (as Lowry later acknowledges) is media savvy — worth $125 million in Huck’s case according to one estimate, remember — but Pawlenty can deliver a soundbite when needed. On the prospects of facing off against Barry O’s windbag of a VP: “They’re going to have to extend the length of the debate to two or three hours.” And of course, unlike Huck, Pawlenty could flip his home state.
Isn’t the real problem with Huckabee that a lot of conservatives simply loathe him? He and Mitt are similar in that regard, ironically, although of course there’s practically no overlap between one group of haters and the other. In fact, Jonathan Adler’s already threatening at the Corner to walk the plank if the Lowry plan is put in play. Exit question: Gosh, I wonder how the Hot Air faithful will greet this idea. Huckamania?
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I’m with you — not a dime goes to McCain until I see his VP choice.
D2Boston on August 26, 2008 at 12:25 PM
You could say the same about Romney.
He wasn’t the only one. Romney ran around accusing everyone of unfaithfulness to Reaganism, which was rich, given his record.
And a pastor wanting to win converts? Never!
bcm4134 on August 26, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Rabble rabble rabble!Rabble rabble rabble!Rabble rabble rabble!
SouthernDem on August 26, 2008 at 12:26 PM
If it makes you feel any better…98% of America thinks mormonism is a cult..
The fact is this Vance…it doesn’t matter what religion you practice, Mike Huckabee will protect your constitutional right to practice whatever religion you like.
He’s NOT going to make America a theocracy..he will simply make America NOT a theocracy (it is a theocracy right now…secular humanism/evolutionism is the official state religion alternatives need to be taught in schools).
Mike Huckabee will actually protect your right to practice whatever religion you like.
SaintOlaf on August 26, 2008 at 12:26 PM
So the majority of posters on this board are “the Washington elite and beltway insiders”?
Marking Time on August 26, 2008 at 12:27 PM
And about the same percentage of the statistics you throw out are nonsense.
Slublog on August 26, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Whoa, put down the crackpipe and back away.
I can’t even begin to tell you how wrong that is.
Pcoop on August 26, 2008 at 12:28 PM
I see you and raise you: if Huckabee is McCain’s VP choice, I send the donation to the Constitution Party.
Vashta.Nerada on August 26, 2008 at 12:28 PM
How is it clear? Show me some proof that Huckabee would be anymore damaging than Romney or Lieberman.
Complete7 on August 26, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Take a look at an electoral map, and count the EVs from Colorado, Nevada, and Michigan.
Vashta.Nerada on August 26, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Huckabee wants to tax my fast food.
If it’s Huckabee, My vote goes elsewhere. Same with Romney.
Sakaki on August 26, 2008 at 12:30 PM
ANSWER IS HERE! Check out the key states.
http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/votes/index.html
marklmail on August 26, 2008 at 12:31 PM
YellowDawg: Don’t try that “poor persecuted Pitiful Huckabee supporter” shtick.
I’m sorry that your fellow Huckabee supporters have given the guy a bad name, but Huckabee and his supporters here in the past have cooked his goose.
His blatant lies, his populism, his hypocrisy and religious pandering made a lot of us not like him. And then his supporters tried to proclaim that anyone who believes in Christ and the Bible should be crawling on their hands and knees to vote for Huck.
Take together, that equals a pretty strong Huckabee backlash. Against him, and against his supporters. They have talking points: Huck is so wonderful! But those have long since been debunked. And then, everyone is sick of every time a Huck thread shows up, it degenerates into a religious struggle. So that’s why HotAir despises Huckabee generally.
Vanceone on August 26, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Where do you think you are, Daily KOS?
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 12:33 PM
I’m not talking in terms of policy. They are COMPLETELY different. I’m talking about the slippery oil salesman persona that both project. The say anything to elected aproach that both of them take.
YellowDawg on August 26, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Seriously are you stuck in the past.
I now deem you trollish. Where is my troll begone?
upinak on August 26, 2008 at 12:34 PM
The old CCR song keep rolling through my head.
” Trolling, Trolling, Trolling down a river “
upinak on August 26, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Huckebee is a winner in TX, OH, and a few others. Keep in mind that FL and MI didn’t have any idea who Huckabee was in Jan. Plus, he had ZERO money at that time to advertise in either state. Do your homework.
http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/votes/index.html
marklmail on August 26, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Four out of five dentists surveyed said : “Daaaaaamn, Saint O. That’s some strong Kool-Aid.”
hillbillyjim on August 26, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Hucky is funny and is entertaining to watch on Leno. Hucky’s heart is in the right place. Hucky’s attitude towards Romney is slightly deranged. We don’t need ANOTHER man from Hope. But his inclusion on the ticket would not change my vote.
P.S. to those people talking about witholding contributions to McC’s campaign until after he announces his running mate, your point is silly since he will be on public financing after the convention anyway so donate now or don’t bother
HawaiiLwyr on August 26, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Certainly feels that way with some of the reactions to anything negative about their man.
The only thing I’ve seen so far in this thread is namecalling of people who have different views than you. I’d prefer to not go that route, but if I have to keep chucking out the Rombot line, I will. Noone likes to be slapped on a label simply because their opinion is different. Makes this place no better than dailykos or Huffingtonpost.
YellowDawg on August 26, 2008 at 12:37 PM
What? Huck got trounced in Texas and Ohio – what planet are you on?
Vashta.Nerada on August 26, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Wow, the Huckabee supporters are crawling out of the woodworks!
Let’s update the list: St. Olaf, apacalyps, Jpark, YellowDawg, Complete7, Marklmail, and bcm4134 that I’ve noticed so far. Who’s next?
Vanceone on August 26, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Saddam HUCKsein become VP? HA HA HA HA HA!!!
Not a chance. You have to accomplish something in life other than be a failed governor of Arkansas in-breds and then get your stomach stapled and then lie about it if you want to be VP.
I would vote for Biden/ Obama before I voted for a ticket with that jerk on it.
Roger Waters on August 26, 2008 at 12:38 PM
I think what you meant is that Huckabee TROUNCED Romney in both TX and OH by a factor of 10.
marklmail on August 26, 2008 at 12:40 PM
sigh…
YellowDawg on August 26, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Oh – do you think that might have something to do with the fact that ROMNEY HAD PULLED OUT?
Vashta.Nerada on August 26, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Wonder why he pulled out? He’s a great man, but he doesn’t connect with “regular folks”. That’s why.
marklmail on August 26, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Troll
Vashta.Nerada on August 26, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Truth hurts. I actually am a big Romney supporter, but I’m also a realist and firmly anti-Obama.
marklmail on August 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM
YellowDawg: See this post I made trying to explain the Huckabee dislike on HotAir.
I hope it explains more of what’s going on.
Vanceone on August 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM
I’m just curious on how what he said about Romney is anymore trollish than some of the other comments about Huck? It would help us if we knew just what the guidelines are so that we can avoid that kind of behavior.
YellowDawg on August 26, 2008 at 12:45 PM
I predict that conservatives will very quickly accept the VP and support him, just like they rallied around McCain.
philnewkirk on August 26, 2008 at 12:45 PM
This just in: Michael Steele says Huckabee would be a sensible pick.
Towash on August 26, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Not only do we have a ton of new Huckabee fans but if you don’t agree with them they compare HotAir to Kos & DU. Last night one such wuss, Dominian was whining for AP to step in and save HotAir(or Dominian). It was so sad. Well I know that’s going to change my mind.
Cindy Munford on August 26, 2008 at 12:46 PM
s’okay, Vanceone. I’d gotten so used to S.Oaf, alpacalips, (even the great Red Pill, whom I actually kind of like) that seeing some new Huck apologistas is kinda refreshing. Not that they have anything new to say so far, but fresh blood always draws the sharks…
trailboss on August 26, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Prediction: Huck turns bright red and starts screaming at his TV Friday morning. He orders his children to hang the family dog from a tree and beat it to death (actually this would be the second time). He then forms a 3rd party called American Taliban.
hanzblinx on August 26, 2008 at 12:50 PM
If a poster claims Huckabee kicked Romney’s butt in two primaries that Romney asked his supporters to vote for McCain, then says that Romney dropped out because he cannot connect with voters, then says he/she is a Romney supporter, and you don’t see troll – I can’t help you.
Vashta.Nerada on August 26, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Romney spent tens of millions in his bread and butter states and couldn’t hang. Huckabee spent pennies and did better. Trollish? No. Factual? Yes.
marklmail on August 26, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Huckabee supporters are not trolls. Trolls just stir things up for LULZ, Hucksters actually believe what they are saying. Which ironically makes them even more hilarious than trolls.
Ars Moriendi on August 26, 2008 at 12:54 PM
As Dunlap from RSU famously once said, “Huckabee? F*CK ME!”
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 26, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Not if Huck is involved. Using the Obama scare tactic won’t carry much weight. McCain can blow the whole thing very easily. I am fairly confident(fingers crossed) he won’t do anything that stupid. I want to support him, but he has to decide if he wants me. I’m not gonna get too excited about it right now. He has too many other good choices.
a capella on August 26, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Thanks for posting that. I just read it and I can see why you are so sensitive to anyone who has something to say against Romney, but it shouldn’t be an excuse.
With respect to the points you made, I feel the need to rebut some of those points, and I hope we can keep it civil :P
I think that’s uncalled for, and I hope you feel the same way. When I say that Romney reminds me of a car salesman, it is because he’s flipped his position on things, not because of any feel I get from him.
I’ve seen Huck campaign and talk for McCain many times, so I know this to be not true. But yes, I will also grant that he does seem to go out of his way once or twice to say something about Romney, though not mentioning his name directly.
Truthfully, I think that stems more from somewhat paranoia than anything else.
I think you need to realize that a lot of folks in 2004 thought God wanted Bush.
I’m not a fan of Romney, but it isn’t because of his religion, that’s like saying I’m against Obama because he’s black. I simply don’t like him because he has shown that he will change positions based on political expediency.
I think we all want the same thing, and that’s a McCain Presidency because quite honestly, the alternative is far far worse. If someone is saying directly “screw Romney because of his religion” then I think you should go off on him, but until that happens, I think it would be better if we just wouldn’t assume otherwise.
just my 2 cents.
YellowDawg on August 26, 2008 at 12:58 PM
I’ve done my homework. Without the crossover Democrats and the party sabotage, Romney would have won the primary and would be our nominee. Huckabee had a lot of help from our enemies.
It’s time to get over all of this. Huckabee is not the best man. He laid down with dogs. Pick someone else. Period.
eaglesdontflock on August 26, 2008 at 12:58 PM
The difference between DKos and here is that HA doesn’t have an orthodoxy. We have folks advocating McCain pick Palin, Romney, Crist, Huckabee, Pawlenty, Fred!, Hillary, Rudy, … People yell at each other, mock each other, etc., but nobody is BANNED for advocating something against the official stance of the site owner.
The loathing of Huckabee has grown organically over the course of the last year. I know I’m not the only one who started out curious with Huckabee, or leaning his way, only to grow disenchanted later on.
The reason the Huck fans on HA aren’t held in high regard generally is because the few who stuck around from Super Tuesday to now are obnoxious in the extreme, more interested in bellowing made-up statistics and calling everyone “phony Christians” and “cultists.”
It doesn’t take much to fit in here. When I first arrived the primaries were heating up and everyone was defending their chosen candidate and many were loudly denouncing each others’. My guys got hammered a lot. But there was also a lot of humor, a lot of reasoned discussion, not that far under the surface.
Give it time.
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM
hanzblinx on August 26, 2008 at 12:50 PM
What the heck is that? Wow!
Cindy Munford on August 26, 2008 at 1:00 PM
How am I a troll for simply stating my opinion? And please explain me to how the 04 election is not relevant to this one. If I’m not mistaken 2004 was the last presidential election, using that election as reference to this one would be wise.
Complete7 on August 26, 2008 at 1:00 PM
You quoted his specific post from 12:41PM, which is the post I was asking about. I didn’t realize you were talking about him overall.
YellowDawg on August 26, 2008 at 1:01 PM
I dont care who the VP choice is. Im a Republican and I will be voting Republican on election day.
Joeyyy on August 26, 2008 at 1:02 PM
mmmmmm. tasty, tasty chum.
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Quote from sunday’s Moderate Voice article:
Full article:
http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/john-mccain/22038/why-mccain-should-not-pick-romney-for-vice-president-guest-voice/
SaintOlaf on August 26, 2008 at 1:03 PM
thanks sulla,
I guess I was just a bit taken back by the errr passion(?) of some of the Romney folks? :D
YellowDawg on August 26, 2008 at 1:05 PM
Good ol’ Huck. Now there’s a guy that knows how to play identity politics.
Seriously, pick Romney and get the economic chops we need on the ticket. I’m sure Pawlenty is a great guy, but aside from the people in the GOP who follow this stuff, nobody has any idea who he is. Romney has a national recognition, can give a speech just as well as Obama, and he can stay on message at the debates and not get rattled. Plus, he isn’t afraid to be the attack dog either.
IrishMcPundit on August 26, 2008 at 1:05 PM
It’s obvious that since Obama has picked Biden, Mccain has no choice but to pick Huckabee if he wants to win.
Nobody can debate better than Huck, and nobody is more liked by blue collar whites than Mike Huckabee.
SaintOlaf on August 26, 2008 at 1:06 PM
Hey, look…the number of people who say Mormonism is a cult is far lower than reported by certain commenters.
Actual statistics aren’t all that hard to find, but I guess the fakey ones are more fun.
Slublog on August 26, 2008 at 1:07 PM
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I think you hit the nail on the head. +1
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The Moderate voice? Really? That’s your best shot?
Think_b4_speaking on August 26, 2008 at 1:08 PM
I vote Republican. I’ve worked campaigns. I’ve run campaigns. I won’t vote for President if Huck is on the ticket. I won’t fundraise if Huck is on the ticket. I won’t lift a finger in the Presidential race if Huck is on the ticket. Believe me, I’m not the only one. I hope McCain is smart about this. He’s heard it from enough people.
texette on August 26, 2008 at 1:09 PM
What? Between McCain and Huckabee there isn’t a problem found that can’t be resolved with more Government, bigger Government, or more intrusive Government.
And everyone loves bigger more intrusive Government. Except Conservatives and Libertarians, but who cares about them.
Romney is disappointing and unimpressive (not as disappointing as McCain, but close). Huckabee is a disaster waiting to happen (or, more likely, opening his mouth again before the VP pick is made and not waiting).
Of course now St. Olaf will inform you that 2,847% of Americans love Huckabee, 73.4% of Americans would be willing to have his love-children, and 167,363,756% of his statistics are fabricated…
And one of the others will clarify that I must be a Satan worshiping evil man for denying the Huckster and his greatness. Perhaps condemning me to the fires forever for my political opinion (again, sigh).
gekkobear on August 26, 2008 at 1:10 PM
Don’t look now, but a CAT 5 Hurricane is going to hit the RNC. Oh brother.
marklmail on August 26, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Huckabee is a jerk, plain and simple. He has a demented obsession with tearing down Romney that is beyond sane. The guy is a lunatic and his attacks, long after the primaries are over, show that he doesn’t have the character to be President if something were to happen to McCain.
Sydney Carton on August 26, 2008 at 1:12 PM
YellowDawg, thanks for the reasonable post. Look, I’m a Romney guy, but there’s claims to be made against him. Hollowpoint is one who has clashed with me on Romney several times. But it’s always been on Policy grounds, not religion.
Hollowpoint wasn’t a Huck supporter, either. There’s room to criticize Romney, there is. Just like there is room to criticize anyone. But the Huckabee supporters here have had that special mix of “Romney is evil because 1) He’s Mormon and 2) he’s done blah blah blah” And then when people in turn say that Huck isn’t exactly pure as the driven snow, it becomes an attack on his religion. You can’t be a good Christian if you disagree with Huck.
I don’t know if it is possible to be a Huck supporter, Romney attacker without it being religious in some form. I’ve had my disagreements on Palin and Pawlenty, yet those are political things. When Huck gets involved, my faith gets involved too. And so is everyone else’s faith. So most people recoil from that.
Huckabee and the debate on him has, without fail, degenerated into a religion fest. It’s slimy, and turns a whooooole lot of people off, who have no desire to see a 4 year Huckabee religious war. Imagine if he was VP? *shudder*. Romney, for his faults, has tried to stay out of the religious fray.
It’s the old canard of not discussing religion and politics. Huckabee and his supporters are forcing us to mix them. and that’s distasteful.
Vanceone on August 26, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Dude there is no point in even arguing this point…it’s a fact.
The Roman Catholic church has condemned mormonism as a cult.
The Orthodox Church has condemned mormonism as a cult.
Every Protestant denomination has condemned mormonism as a cult.
What more proof do you need? They are the ones who decide what is or isn’t a cult of their religion.
This is not an “insult” or whatever to you mormons out there. We love you regardless of what religion you practice.
We would call you a different religion but the Church labels you a cult because you claim to represent Christianity.
It’s pretty simple. It shouldn’t be offensive to you..you are the ones who claim you have the one true religion anyway.
SaintOlaf on August 26, 2008 at 1:13 PM
I’m
Mike HuckabeeSaintOaf and I approved this message.hillbillyjim on August 26, 2008 at 1:14 PM
Olaf–whoops.
hillbillyjim on August 26, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Psst… St. Olaf. Try the word “sect” instead of cult, if you want to be accurate. Cult is technically accurate in the same sense YOU belong to a cult.
Vanceone on August 26, 2008 at 1:16 PM
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ROFL! But, but, but….its obvious…
Think_b4_speaking on August 26, 2008 at 1:16 PM
Careful YellowDawg, you are being wayyy too civil. ;)
trailboss on August 26, 2008 at 1:17 PM
SaintOlaf-you are simply silly. (waving hand dismissively)
Go enjoy your alternate reality, cobwebbed and musty as it is.
Here in the real world Huck continues to badmouth, denigrate others, setting a good example for Christian Pastors everywhere.
Doug on August 26, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Is that a concern in the country right now? Do we need this issue defended by the likes of the Huckster?
Mormon Doc on August 26, 2008 at 1:18 PM
That’s the thing – many of them AREN’T Romney folks. but the few Huckabee folks here have been so relentlessly negative for so long that defense of Romney (if not support) has steadily risen, while the mere mention of Huckabee launches some of us into full-blown political Tourette’s.
Call it battle fatigue. The primaries started so bloody long ago, most of us were just relieved it was over even though most of us weren’t thrilled with the winner. when Huckabee insisted on dragging out the process, and continued to pound an opponent who had already dropped out and thrown his support behind the presumptive nominee, I know my patience wore thin in a hurry.
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 1:19 PM
I’m Mitt Romney and I approve this sacred undergarment.
marklmail on August 26, 2008 at 1:20 PM
The wife and I plan to max our donation to McCain this year so long as he does NOT pick Huckadoodle.
I’m not in the business of rewarding overt bigotry or paint by numbers pardoners.
sven10077 on August 26, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Actually, Olaf, I was responding to this statement:
Clearly, judging by the poll I cited, you were wrong on the facts. And now you’re trying to cover for it by moving the goalposts.
Slublog on August 26, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Pardon me if I repeat someones else’s comment as I haven’t read all 3 pages of comments. It seems to me that McCain could use a vice-president with economic skills. Huckabee ain’t it. He raised taxes and fees in Arkansas, and probably much to McCains likeing, allowed illegal immigrates to attend the states community college system. Probably at least partly at the Arkansas taxpayers expense. No wonder most of Hotairs readers and staff take a dim view of Mr. Huckabee.
2theright on August 26, 2008 at 1:21 PM
There, finished that quote for ya. Yer still ChINO.
trailboss on August 26, 2008 at 1:21 PM
Let’s see…. looking, looking… yep, a new Huckabee supporter, as I pointed out above. Shocka: A religious attack!
Truly, I’m stunned. Our first of the new Huckabee Supporters comes out swinging on the Anti-Mormon platform! Who didn’t see this one coming?
Vanceone on August 26, 2008 at 1:22 PM
“Every Protestant denomination has condemned mormonism as a cult.”
see, it’s completely bogus statements like that that rightly cement yer place here as circus clown …
note that besides lowry, virtually no other pundit is pushing schmuck. he rarely appears on any shortlists.
so it would be much appreciated if you would stow the mitt-hatred, stfu, and when pawlenty is the veep pick and NOONE is particualrly happy wonder how you and yer band of nanny-state theocrats could have mebbe done everyone else a favor and not wasted our time by babbling about the loser schmuck …
Buckaroo on August 26, 2008 at 1:22 PM
Well, clearly, Mormons eat jello-salads prepared by Satan while wearing said undergarments.
Or something.
142.3% of America agrees.
Slublog on August 26, 2008 at 1:23 PM
I think you over valued your comments. You aren’t talking to ONLY Huck supporters.
Mormon Doc on August 26, 2008 at 1:23 PM
Sick. We may ridicule individuals here a lot, but don’t ever take the lowdown road of belittling entire religions. Suck a duck, marklmail.
trailboss on August 26, 2008 at 1:24 PM
SaintOlaf on August 26, 2008 at 1:03 PM
For what it’s worth I think you should stick to railing against Mormons. When you attempt reasoned analysis it makes you sound schizophrenic. Go with your strengths and focus on the seething hatred that has made you so well known at HA.
Mormon Doc on August 26, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Huckabery is a con-man looking for a way to line his pocket. This guy is dangerous! Paroleing convicted killers because they found religion, and what happen?? they kill again! as governor, illegal immigration and spending this guy was a joke. There are some great people in the state of Arkansas, but Bill Clinton and Huckabery, there got to be something in the water. The bad part of all this is four years from now we will have to put up with this clown b/s again!!
try again later on August 26, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Add me to the list of those that wouldn’t vote for a McCain/Huckabee ticket.
chansen9 on August 26, 2008 at 1:28 PM
Slublog on August 26, 2008 at 1:07 PM
How dare you contradict SaintOlaf??!! Don’t you know that 98% of all of his statistics come from a very popular magazine called Gross Generalizations. It’s the most popular magazine among the unbalanced.
Mormon Doc on August 26, 2008 at 1:29 PM
You want to see all the PUMAs run for hills? Put Mike Huckabee on the ticket. That’s the one thing that would get them to seriously consider Obama.
TheBigOldDog on August 26, 2008 at 1:29 PM
the1 appreciates your vote then …
Buckaroo on August 26, 2008 at 1:29 PM
To Sulla newbies should listen. Spot on, exactly.
Darksean on August 26, 2008 at 1:30 PM
n.b. my 1:29 is directed at chansen9 @ 1:28
Buckaroo on August 26, 2008 at 1:30 PM
Dude you must either be blind or out of your mind if you have not seen the many hundreds of anti-Christian statements on this site.
Your statement reeks of hypocricy.
SaintOlaf on August 26, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Thanks, Mormon Doc and Slublog! That put a smile on my face, these last few comments.
However, I eat Jello Salad in my magic underwear –with funeral potatoes! And they aren’t prepared by Satan–but by my mother in law! Even worse!
It’s the only way to go.
Vanceone on August 26, 2008 at 1:32 PM
marklmail on August 26, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Creepy comment of the day.
Mormon Doc on August 26, 2008 at 1:32 PM
hey s.o. — funnily enough, the anti-christian statements tend to be a helluva lot better written [and reasoned!] than your dreck …
Buckaroo on August 26, 2008 at 1:33 PM
I’m down with voting McCain at the moment but if he picks Huckabee I’ll be staying home. McCain doesn’t need another Liberal on the ticket he needs a conservative. Romney might not be the strongest conservative out there but he’s far better than Huckabee.
Kronos on August 26, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Huckabee/St.Olaf 2012!
I even have a campaign slogan for them.
We don’t know much – but we know we hate Mormunz!
Mormon Doc on August 26, 2008 at 1:37 PM
Vanceone on August 26, 2008 at 1:32 PM
I have decided that there is no reasoned interaction with someone who starts with the initial position of “You are a member of a cult and therefore condemned to Hell. Anyone who believes as you do should not be in public office.”
It just doesn’t give me a whole lot of middle ground. StOlaf is the posting equivalent of a suicide bomber. Each post has destruction rather than persuasion as its premise.
Mormon Doc on August 26, 2008 at 1:42 PM
Don’t forget the money the Dems spent on Huckabee. I think there is some terminal naivete going on here regarding how Romney lost his bid for the nomination.
eaglesdontflock on August 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM
I hope he does it, just so I can see all the stupidass hypocrites who get on the case of anyone who refuses to vote for McCain claim they won’t vote for McCain.
Darth Executor on August 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM
I liken St. Olaf to Hillary supporters- they are crazed and want one thing no matter what.
Not voting for McCain, is a vote for Obama. Period.
As much as I dislike Huckabee (and his followers), I would still vote for a McCain/Huck ticket- for the good of the nation. I would assume that most on here would do the same. The alternative is just too dangerous.
Keep this in mind, anti-Mormons….
jdoubleu on August 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM
I really don’t see what the big deal with the VP is.
As has been pointed out on this blog, the chances of McCain being elected twice (or even once) and then the VP winning an election in his own right are virtually nil. The only VPs who have won election in the past century are Bush Sr., Nixon, Lyndon B. Johnson, Truman, and Coolidge. Of those, all but Bush and Nixon were sitting Presidents due to a death in the Oval Office. Neither party has held four presidencies in a row (Bush, Bush, McCain, Huck/Ridge/Liebs/other unacceptable) since FDR.
Realistically, I think we have to say that Huckabee, Ridge, Romney, and Lieberman (or whoever else you don’t want to be President) are only dangerous if McCain dies. That’s a possibility, sure. But it’s not like it’s extremely likely.
That’s one reason I hate to see Pawlenty or Palin selected as VP. It’s practically a political death sentence. There’s almost no chance they can come in after McCain (and that’s assuming McCain wins). They’ll be an Al Gore or John Edwards in no time.
PurpleWombats on August 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM
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