Quote of the day
posted at 10:59 pm on August 26, 2008 by Allahpundit
“The same human activity that has brought freedom and opportunity to billions has also increased the amount of carbon in the atmosphere. Increased atmospheric carbon has a warming effect on the earth.”
Blowback
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*facepalm*
Benaiah on August 27, 2008 at 2:37 AM
Yeah, that’ll work…remember how successful JUMP DAY was in changing Earth’s orbit???
/sarc
landlines on August 27, 2008 at 3:01 AM
As stupid as it is for Liberals to demonize elements (first lead, now carbon), it is even more stupid for Republicans to go along with it!!!
If carbon is so bad, think about what would happen if we could totally eliminate it:
1. No plant life
2. Almost no useful chemicals: virtually all organic chemicals non-existent so there could be no medicines, fuels, pesticides, refrigerants, paints, plastics, etc.
3. No human life: the earth would be a totally dead planet…but it would still have at least as much “greenhouse gas” in the atmosphere as it does now…because 95%-97% of the current greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is WATER VAPOR!!!!
LESSON: Demonizing elements is a fool’s errand.
landlines on August 27, 2008 at 3:10 AM
Just read through the comments. Glad to see all of your knee-jerks are functioning just fine.
The GOP platform mentions specifically that they don’t want to inflict or enforce any of the socialistic solutions that the Dems propose. I’ll include my quote du jour, npt AP’s knee-jerk baiting quote. You guys really need to learn how to read.
Every major scientific organization attributes Global Warming to manmade CO2, for now. Even if it is total BS (which is what I believe), it is a problem that demands addressing. Would you prefer the GOP be completely silent and let the Dems provide the only solution to this “crisis”? Because that solution is a scary proposal. You don’t have to believe one word of the Global Warming religion. But you can’t let stubbornness destroy our party (“But its already dead!” – the angry mob).
When it is proven that GW is total BS, would you prefer all of these controls that the Dems want to inflict to remain, because they will. If we support GOP solutions, free market solutions, then when GW is proven to be hysterical, we will not have destroyed our economy in the process of preventing it. We need to have a voice in this.
jimmy the notable on August 27, 2008 at 3:15 AM
Wrong.
Johan Klaus on August 27, 2008 at 3:50 AM
jimmy the notable on August 27, 2008 at 3:15 AM
How about, we acknowledge more research needs to be done concerning the impact of global warming, and will promote the infrastructure so that the private sector doesn’t have to deal with red tape as it tries to solve environmental issues. We pledge to keep our heads and defend our freedoms, hence will not join the Democrats in their use of fear politics to take away our freedoms.
Something along those lines would be fabulous. Needing to have a voice doesn’t mean we have to agree with the premise.
In fact they would gain so much by giving everyone a reality check instead of joining the band wagon of stupidity. Because eventually this fad will collapse on itself, and I would rather have the Republicans be in position to say “told you so” then the “please notice me too” position.
Conservative Voice on August 27, 2008 at 4:04 AM
Of course, our candidate, the great John McCain is a big believer of Global Warming, so we’re pretty much screwed.
Snake307 on August 27, 2008 at 4:53 AM
they still are going about the issue from different angles, more private industry vs. all Government funded and restrictions and penalties, not to mention that Obama doesn’t even talk about Nuclear power only wind and solar, McCain wants like over 40 new Nuclear power plants soon.
Chakra Hammer on August 27, 2008 at 5:08 AM
Ronaldus Magnus was a conservative who left the Democratic party because they abandoned him philisophically. If the Republican party abandons conservatives, why not shift our allegiance to a Conservative party? It will be painful and it will take several election cycles to show positive results, but it may be less painful than continuing to beat our heads against the wall just because it feels so good to stop. Maybe we should stop now. Just saying.
SKYFOX on August 27, 2008 at 5:26 AM
%$^&*%(*%^$&& $%^^&#$%&&^%%*&$##@%$@&!!!!
silverfox on August 27, 2008 at 5:31 AM
Sometimes I am struck by a key deficiency of conservativism, namely that is insufficiently proactive, even to defend its own position.
The reason ‘progressives’ have more influence is because they are unhappy about something and their unhappiness causes them to go out and share their unhappiness with other people. The fact that they get off their backsides and do something does, over time, bring about ‘change’.
Conservatives are more or less happy with things as they are and are therefore reluctant to change things, rock the boat, disturb the peace and so on. Indeed they have little reason to want to change things because change would mean less contentedness or less happiness.
The problem is that this means that the agenda is forever being set by the unhappy people. Conservatives, when they do get involved in change issues, are usually on the defensive, reacting to the demands and distress of the unhappy people.
We need a proactive version of conservativism to counter the proactively progressive unhappiness. Is this possible? Or is a proactive conservativism a contradiction in terms?
YiZhangZhe on August 27, 2008 at 5:43 AM
When does “the goracle” speak at this gabfest?
How long before he states that the new hurricane “gustav” is the result of America’s contribution to the hoax of glowbull warmening?
lukespapa on August 27, 2008 at 6:12 AM
Well most conservatives get off their backsides and do something its called work and don’t time to protest. :}
Chakra Hammer on August 27, 2008 at 6:13 AM
I’ve considered the same thing, especially when the so called conservative Republican candidate is about as conservative as Bill Clinton. McCain is no Conservative, and what really chaps my hide is when I hear Conservative principals redefined to mean bigger Government, junk science, disdain for the law, violation of the Constitution, and so many other things, that I have to wonder what has changed in the twenty years since Ronald Reagan left office?
Conservative has been abused, belittled, insulted, and finally completely redefined to mean things it never meant before. “Government is not the solution to your problems, Government is the Problem.”
We’ve walked away from that brilliance, and utterly ignored the ability of the individual for success. Instead now, we have more Government and less individuality, and thus less chance for individual excellence. The Conservative John McCain is one who pushed for this lack of individual opportunity, and now Conservative means abolishing the First Amendment. Destroying the fouth, Fifth, and Sixth amendment. Amnesty for perpetual violators of our laws, and Big Government programs like Cap and Trade.
I think we can solve our energy problems. Let’s dig Ronald Reagan up, and wrap him in Copper Wire. Replace his headstone with a large magnet, and as he spins in his grave from the whoring of the Conservatives and the Republican Party imploding, we should be able to power half the nation if John McCain wins the election while pretending to be Conservative. If that’s not enough, there are some other great Conservative thinkers who have passed on. William Buckley for example, and we can easily make up our power shortages from Carbon Cap and Trade by wrapping them all in wire and allowing them to spin away in their graves.
Snake307 on August 27, 2008 at 6:19 AM
I think carbon dioxide was chosen for a very special reason. The last time the environmentalist religion made big strides was back in the 70s when we had the very first bugaboo over carbon. That carbon was carbon monoxide and we made significant changes to our lifestyle to address it. I think that carbon dioxide was chosen because it sounds so much like carbon monoxide which every school kid knows is really bad. I say this because in many GW discussions I find people mixing up the two very different gasses. I really think that if the environmentalists had chosen a gas that wasn’t easily confused with a known pollutant they would have not made nearly the progress they have with GW.
jmarcure on August 27, 2008 at 6:22 AM
And that work prevents them from voting? Let’s face it; most conservatives find all kinds of excuses not to vote. Mostly because they are incredibly uncompromising and require a candidate to think and act exactly like they do. BO will win this year because we will elect him not the democrats and they very well know it. How many people her have said I sitting this one out because of, fill in the blank. I was talking to an old guy just the other day and he is saying he will sit this one out because there is no one worth voting for. My dad has said the same thing and neither of them get their news from the Internet. I told them both that if that is the case then BO will win and both pretty much said they would rather see the country descend into hell then to compromise their moral positions. That right there is why democrats continue to win. Not because they have a better way but because conservatives don’t vote. We care greatly that one of ours taps their foot in a stall, has dinner with a lobbyist or praises a former segregationist. We make a big show of running them out on a pole and Barney Frank, Robert Bird and William Jefferson sit on the sidelines laughing their butts off. I have no doubt BO will win and he will win because conservatives will hand it to him on a silver platter.
jmarcure on August 27, 2008 at 6:40 AM
Tell that to the dinosaurs. And I don’t mean the ones in Congress.
ctmom on August 27, 2008 at 6:41 AM
Jimmy,
Watch the use of the word EVERY.
Seems some real folks and a few in the fields of science, business, and ag have a different take on GW and the human part.Some pretty good folks think GW may be solar driven and some even foresee a cooling trend.
The nice thing about old age is I remember tha last six or eight scares., starting with Orson and The War of The Worlds,last biggie was Y2K.
J.Wm.
Col.John Wm. Reed on August 27, 2008 at 6:56 AM
I believe the number of scientists, experts, etc. that dissents is larger than you may know.
“”I suspect you haven’t heard it because the mass media did not report it, but I am not alone on the no man-made warming side of this issue. On May 20th, a list of the names of over thirty-one thousand scientists who refute global warming was released. Thirty-one thousand of which 9,000 are Ph.D’s. Think about that. Thirty-one thousand. That dwarfs the supposed 2,500 scientists on the UN panel.” “-John Coleman at link below:
http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner/19842304.html
Respectfully, I disagree. It seems to me, that disagreeing with a premise negates responsibility for finding a ‘solution’. Solutions are for problems. When one doesn’t exist, neither can the other. The only voice worth having in the debate (so-called) is to fight it.
anuts on August 27, 2008 at 7:24 AM
Believe me, I’m quite familiar with all of the skeptical scientists and all of that. This is one of the most comprehensive list of websites that there is on all things AGW = BS:
The Anti “Man-Made” Global Warming Resource
I’m glad you called me out on the use of the word “Every,” Col. I was hesitant to use it at first, and I know that there are thousands of skeptical scientists, but I believe that when it comes to government policy, as idiotic as this is, the word of an organization, like the IPCC, simply counts for more.
That is the main reason that I’ve decided to stop playing the “cover my ears” game, because I really don’t believe that people will ever come around until we have another 10 or 20 years without an increase in temperature. There’s simply no conceivable way to convince them otherwise. No amount of real science can compete with the image of a swimming polar bear (even though all polar bears swim). In the meantime, while the moronic governments of the world clamber over themselves with the perfect opportunity, the perfect excuse, to instill global socialism, something that will never be undone, ..in the meantime, small government supporters need to have a voice in this debate, no matter how stupid.
As the temperatures continue to stay the same and the Doom and Gloom forecasts look increasingly foolish, the scientists will take a second look, and this will all be finished. I believe that there needs to be real voices in support of this second look, but the government is not going to wait, they simply don’t listen to the people, they listen to organizations. We need to be sure that we have enough people in there who don’t want global socialism, and if it means admitting that people might be responsible for GW (we’re not), then so be it.
jimmy the notable on August 27, 2008 at 7:36 AM
Do these pandering idiots go as far as adding that the earth is flat, just to appease that group of misguided kooks?
Hening on August 27, 2008 at 7:48 AM
If the flat-earthers represented the majority and most people in position of power were also flat-earthers…then yes, they probably would. They’re politicians, that’s what they do.
jimmy the notable on August 27, 2008 at 7:58 AM
Really, can you reference the scientific consensus where this was agree on and please don’t say Al Gore’s movie.
I no longer associate with the republican party. Most have become mindless boobs trying to appease the dimocrats.
trs on August 27, 2008 at 8:21 AM
I thought the greatest source of pollutants causing global warming was cow farts.
Wethal on August 27, 2008 at 8:23 AM
http://www.globalwarminghoax.com
Biggest scam and power-grab in the history of the world.
marklmail on August 27, 2008 at 8:24 AM
I guess we’re just going to have to cut down on freedom and opportunity. So tell me again, just what is the difference between the Republicrats?
I couldnt have said it better myself. But while I neither like nor trust the Maverick, I like and trust Obama even less – much less, as in not at all.
abcurtis on August 27, 2008 at 8:34 AM
Joe Bastardi, AccuWeather’s senior meteorologist, makes the point that if it’s consensus you’re using to establish scientific validity, then look not to any consensus of sociologists, scientists, environmentalists, or historians, but to the opinions of meteorologists, since they’re the ones most qualified on the issues. And among meteorologists, most doubt man-made global warming.
So how did the myth of ‘consensus’ come about? Holman Jenkins examines the process in The Science of Gore’s Nobel:
What if everyone believes in global warmism only because everyone believes in global warmism?, in the Wall Street Journal Online.
petefrt on August 27, 2008 at 8:37 AM
http://www.globalwarminghoax.com
homepage explains the fraud and origin of the “consensus”.
marklmail on August 27, 2008 at 8:49 AM
Good site!
petefrt on August 27, 2008 at 8:56 AM
Meh.
I don’t believe in AGW, but the platform statements seem politically well worded to me. I don’t think it alienates those like me, and it gives a nod to those who believe it’s all our fault. It sticks to the basic principle that conservatives don’t believe in over-dedicating resources to the problem at this time.
connertown on August 27, 2008 at 10:00 AM
The earth has been cooling for ten years now and people are still talking about global warming, do they have their heads stuck in the sand or what? The most recent warm year was 1998, but even 1998 was not the hottest year on record, the hottest year on record was back in the 1930′s. And the “record” itself only goes back 200 years and does not include much warmer periods and much colder periods of the recent past.
Global warming only exist in the minds of those who want to tax the crap our of us for producing CO2. YOU CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT PRODUCING CO2. WE EXHALE CO2, AND CO2 IS WHAT PLANTS BREATH. CO2 IS TOTALLY HARMLESS AND A REQUIREMENT FOR LIFE TO BE SUSTAINED ON THE PLANET. CO2 HAS LESS ABILITY TO CAPTURE HEAT INTO THE ATMOSPHERE THAN EITHER WATER VAPOR OR OXYGEN.
The climate does and has always changed and will continue to do so no matter how much money you send or do not send to Al Gore. The output of the sun is not constant, it varies slightly on a well known cycle. These variations in the sun’s output are responsible for climate change not CO2.
Republicans listen up, global warming is a hoax. Just because Al Gore has spent millions on propagation of this hoax does not make it any less a hoax. Wake up please, 2008 is the Coolest Year for At Least Five Years and is on track to be the coolest year of the decade!! Republicans… please wake up.
Maxx on August 27, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Dihydrogen monoxide what the government hasn’t been telling us.
Yet another government cover-up abetted by Congress…dihydrogen monoxide has been implicated in the deaths of thousands of Americans every year, mainly through accidental ingestion. In gaseous form, it can cause severe burns. The chemical is so caustic that it accelerates the corrosion and rusting of many metals, it is a major component of acid rain, and has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients. Symptoms of ingestion include excessive sweating and urination, and for those who have developed a chemical dependency on dihydrogen monoxide, complete withdrawal means certain death.
The Dems do nothing…while the presence of the chemical has been confirmed in every river, stream, lake and reservoir in America.
Maybe the GOP should trake the lead on this one?
coldwarrior on August 27, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Thisis why I don’t like McCain as POTUS. He’s just out-to-lunch on this issue, as well as immigration.
Jarhead68 on August 27, 2008 at 10:38 AM
If this is so – this business about carbon (especially CO2) – then, Mr. Gore, please stop expending your breath by talking. Hypocrite!
Independent Conservative on August 27, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Thanks, McCain. Who needed to win, anyway?
drunkenmaster on August 27, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Looks like I picked a bad day to give up drinkin’.
But I sure picked a good time to go Independent.
MBuck on August 27, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Don’t forget they use that in nuclear power plants, and they use alot of it in other chemical production. Its also found in chemical fertilizer, where it eventually flows into our lakes and rivers.
Corsair on August 27, 2008 at 11:41 AM
It’s no longer the Republican Party. It’s the McCain Party. Just remember that who you select as your Party’s leader has everlasting effects on the principals of your Party.
If the majority of GOPers do not subscribe to the philosophy of man-made global warmer yet our Party Platform states we do, what does that mean?…..
That means that a majority of GOPers can finally admit they’re a bunch of do-nothing lemmings that go along to get along, have their a$$ handed to them while their Party leaders sign onto the Kyoto Treaty, have their businesses regulated into the ground, and pretend to like it.
Sultry Beauty on August 27, 2008 at 1:06 PM
Unhappy people DO get attention & make the decisions. People who are well-adjusted & happy with their lives don’t find time to ruminate on disasters, bad things, etc…
Happy people go on with their lives & it is true, many of them don’t take the time to vote.
I hate having to vote for a bad candidate vs a bad candidate. But I go anyway because there are other things at stake, like Supreme Court seats! Like it or not they’re the ones now who seem to be making legislation.
Global Warming will go down the toilet as any intelligent scientist will probably agree. Consensus is NOT what science is about. Science is factual & all the people in the world could believe in CO2 as the cause & it won’t change the fact that CO2 has NEVER been proven to cause changes in the weather.
Weather on our planet is too chaotic to be able to predict with a lot of accuracy.Too many variables to consider. Please refer to the accuracy of all your local weather reports.
Milankovitch cycles along with solar cycles are probably a sure bet as to the MAJOR contributors of ANY kind of climate change in the planet’s history.
It is up to global warming freaks to PROVE SCIENTIFICALLY that CO2 is directly CAUSING rising temps. in ALL levels of the atmosphere.If they can’t put up, they need to shut up.
They can’t so childishly they are basically pouting & yelling “I’m right because I said so!”
Badger40 on August 27, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Fixed point 2 for you. Sorry, as an organic chemist I had to….As organic chemistry is the chemistry of carbon, no carbon equals no organic compounds equals no life as biochemistry is a subset of organic chemistry. Silicon is thought by some, mostly very bad science fiction writers, to be a substitute for carbon when it comes to life. After all it is directly below carbon on the periodic table so its chemistry should be similar. Well Si forms mostly single bonds with oxygen and not double bonds while Si=Si and bonds are extremely labile outside, and in many cases in, an inert atmosphere and Si-Si chains and rings are not as prevalent as C-C chains and rings.
Bubba Redneck on August 27, 2008 at 2:41 PM
And do they also attribute global warming in the middle ages to mankind?
Johan Klaus on August 27, 2008 at 4:42 PM
Never said I agree with them, Johan. But if this is a humongous conspiracy, it will be an exceedingly difficult one to take down.
jimmy the notable on August 27, 2008 at 6:33 PM
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