Awesomely awesome: Clinton asks crowd, why vote for a guy you agree with if he can’t get things done?
posted at 2:52 pm on August 26, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Just an innocent hypothetical, totally unrelated to anything in the news about a disgruntled bloc trying to decide between an ineffectual neophyte with whose policies they agree and an effective veteran with crossover appeal.
And to think, Politico accused him this morning of not being over the primary.
Bill Clinton appeared to undermine Sen. Barack Obama again Tuesday.
The former president, speaking in Denver, posed a hypothetical question in which he seemed to suggest that that the Democratic Party was making a mistake in choosing Obama as its presidential nominee.
He said: “Suppose you’re a voter, and you’ve got candidate X and candidate Y. Candidate X agrees with you on everything, but you don’t think that candidate can deliver on anything at all. Candidate Y you agree with on about half the issues, but he can deliver. Which candidate are you going to vote for?”
Then, perhaps mindful of how his off-the-cuff remarks might be taken, Clinton added after a pause: “This has nothing to do with what’s going on now.”
Quoth a panicky Paul Begala when questioned by The Hill, repeating his point as if trying to convince himself, “He’s totally for Barack. He’s totally for Barack.” Exit question: What does the media do with this ahead of tonight’s speech? Bill’s gaffes earned instant saturation coverage during the primary, but that was back when covering them helped Obama. This one hurts him as a juicy subplot undermining the sincerity of Her Majesty’s speech tonight, which is precisely why, I’m guessing, it’ll be downplayed. Drudge has it buried in a crowd of other teasers at the top of the Report right now, making it safely ignorable by the press. Will he go nuclear by fronting it and force their hand? Or will he remain safely hip-deep in the tank? Stay tuned!
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Yeah “unity”….
sven10077 on August 26, 2008 at 2:53 PM
heeheeheehee
Are those Chicago Annenberg Challenge papers out yet? You know, the ones that detail the one and only executive job Obama ever held, where he wasted tens of millions of donated dollars and accomplished absolutely nothing?
funky chicken on August 26, 2008 at 2:54 PM
BJ: Clubbing the Clinton seal of approval (Hillary in ‘12!)
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 26, 2008 at 2:54 PM
This is so exciting!!!!!!!!!
BadgerHawk on August 26, 2008 at 2:55 PM
nobody’s gonna tell big daddy bill what to say, this should be good!!
even if Bill says he supports barack, Hussein better watch his back for the inevitable knife, with bill, and hillary twisting it!!! oh yeah, gotta love it!!
right4life on August 26, 2008 at 2:55 PM
“This has nothing to do with what’s going on now.”
Of course not, it’s about some other election, some other year in some other country.
Bill is slowly becoming a better ex-President.
I’ll go back to despising him once he’s campaigning for his wife’s 2012 run.
NoDonkey on August 26, 2008 at 2:55 PM
I want to know about the nose job.
bloggless on August 26, 2008 at 2:55 PM
They keep using that word “unity.” I don’t think it means what they think it means.
crazy_legs on August 26, 2008 at 2:55 PM
Oh, Bill! Obama sez, “Someone find an cute intern, STAT!”
Vanceone on August 26, 2008 at 2:55 PM
It depends upon what the meaning of X and Y is…is.
sdd on August 26, 2008 at 2:55 PM
THEY’RE BAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!! LOL
bloggless on August 26, 2008 at 2:56 PM
No wonder they are not going to allow the delegates to vote.
Think_b4_speaking on August 26, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Slick Willy: Sowin’ Discord
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 26, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Elvis has returned to the building!!!!!!!!!
bloggless on August 26, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Maybe Slick Willie is trying to buy his way into heaven by repenting in the political sense.
Won’t work, but good question.
madmonkphotog on August 26, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Gettin’ things done…yeah, like a zipper slide.
Fletch54 on August 26, 2008 at 2:58 PM
Haha! That’s what I like to hear.
keepinitreal on August 26, 2008 at 2:58 PM
gettem Bill!!
trailortrash on August 26, 2008 at 2:58 PM
He’s a scoundrel and a fiend, but he does have his moments.
UNITY!
SuperCool on August 26, 2008 at 2:58 PM
Dam…. new McCain ad?
Any tape on this?
Romeo13 on August 26, 2008 at 2:58 PM
A useful fool is still useful? ;)
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 26, 2008 at 2:59 PM
BJ is just a trouble junkie.
Akzed on August 26, 2008 at 2:59 PM
He’s talking about McCain no doubt about it..
McCain has proven that he works across the aisle and Obama won’t get anything done all his things will get filibustered, The Democrats Control the House and the Senate and Obama would still NOT be able to deliver it would destroy Obama’s message of Change and “Unity”.
Chakra Hammer on August 26, 2008 at 2:59 PM
Bill is truly unbelievable.
Am I correct that Matt Drudge is now in the tank with the Democrats?
freevillage on August 26, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Hillary tonight: “…and that is why I am putting my name back in nomination for the 2008 democratic….”
Vashta.Nerada on August 26, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Squee! I’m going to hell for taking so much joy in this, aren’t I?
Anna on August 26, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Maybe Bill thinks all this is going on in Edward’s second America or something? LMAO!
He is like Dracula! GO BILL! This is better than Jimmah calling Barack a “black boy”!
freeus on August 26, 2008 at 3:02 PM
For Obama anyway, speculation is he’s blinded by Clinton hate.
YellowDawg on August 26, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Live and learn.
maverick muse on August 26, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Somebody check the sky for flyin’ pigs. I just felt a twang of admiration for Bill Clinton. That’s a new feeling, and I’m a little concerned.
john1schn on August 26, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Attn Barry:
If Hilly offers you “Bananas Vince Foster” for dessert, don’t take it.
TheUnrepentantGeek on August 26, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Another McCain TV spot in the making.
Shy Guy on August 26, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Yep. I think Drudge has a major case of Clinton Derangement Syndrome, which made him look like he might be a conservative. Obama defeated Hillary, so he’s Drudge’s new hero.
funky chicken on August 26, 2008 at 3:04 PM
I think Hillary can be controlled by the DNC – she still needs them. But Bill cannot . He was a two term Prez and they can kiss his whammy-jammy.
He is the loose cannon. Would love to see him reveal his true feelings to about BHO to the multitudes.
Pass the popcorn…….
DeweyWins on August 26, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Oh yeah, even now the B.O. campaign is probably arranging with all the major networks (except Fox) to put a 5 second delay on Bubba Billy’s speech. This gonna be gooooooood!!!!
pilamaye on August 26, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Bubba has forgotten that about the only thing he managed to “do” as president was the hired help.
viking01 on August 26, 2008 at 3:06 PM
I have thought that for a long time now.
Chakra Hammer on August 26, 2008 at 3:07 PM
I have removed Drudge from my links and favorites several months ago.
Chakra Hammer on August 26, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Git ‘er done, Bubba!
Mr_Magoo on August 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM
I think Drudge is becoming less pro-obvious-Obama as time goes on. I guarantee in February or March 2009 having been in the tank for the Obamamessiah will be seen as an embarrassment and cocktail party DC talk will be “well, I saw through it in August”.
Marcus on August 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Which is ironic, given that he was made by the Clinton shenanagins.
crazy_legs on August 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Actually, that’s why I’m voting for Obama over McCain. I’m afraid that McCain would manage to get the Carbon Cap and Trade bill through congress, using his old friends of course, and destroy out economy. I doubt that Obama could. I am convinced that McCain would get his Amnesty Bill through, and Obama couldn’t. I’m certain that McCain can’t get his drilling plan through congress, and with Iraq now demanding that our troops be out, all of our troops out of Iraq before the end of 2011, the war in Iraq is almost Moot.
So that leaves the Court, and I doubt that McCain is going to pick a rock ribbed Conservative, so that means that there is little difference in the two. Better to pick Obama, and accomplish less destruction of the nation, over McCain and complete destruction.
Snake307 on August 26, 2008 at 3:09 PM
If you are, ma’am, pass the Mentos because I’m right behind you.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM
…. you’re kidding, right???
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Like a classic Emily Litella “Never mind!!”
Brat on August 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Of course not, Bill, (wink, wink).
AZCoyote on August 26, 2008 at 3:10 PM
OK, just so that we’re 100% clear. Would it be fair to say that Matt Drudge hates freedom?
freevillage on August 26, 2008 at 3:12 PM
Im lovin this! lol
becki51758 on August 26, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Count me among those who seldom go to Drudge’s website any more. Maybe he simply got caught up in the novelty of Obambi’s earlier months though that still makes me question Drudge quitting radio.
In light of his apparent support of Obambi, short term or not, the thought of Drudge Radio fielding call after phone call from an audience base having now completely opposite views would have been a quick downward spiral for his ratings and credibility.
viking01 on August 26, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Vashta.Nerada on August 26, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Oh dear…a distraction..
BIDEN’S CRYING
Brat on August 26, 2008 at 3:14 PM
No, I’m actually quite serious. Do you think McCain can get his carbon cap and trade bill through Congress? It’s a Democratically approved policy, which means that the Democrats would vote for it. So would many Republicans, out of Party unity right?
Do you think Obama could get it through? Our resistance, the Republicans, would make it tough, if we could turn several of the “Blue Dog” Democrats, we could block it in Congress, thus preventing the destruction of the economy.
In that scenario, victory for a Conservative Republican Principal, free market capitalism, doesn’t happen by electing a Republican for President.
Snake307 on August 26, 2008 at 3:14 PM
O! should of gotten off the cash to give back Billy Jeff’s loan to Hillz campaign.
See what his stingy-ness has bought him!
RocketmanBob on August 26, 2008 at 3:14 PM
nah, he’s a regular MDS nutter. scroll-by territory
funky chicken on August 26, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Break off and form a Centrist(sane) Democrat party Clinton!
You don’t want to go the crazy route(see Jimmy Carter)
jp on August 26, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Where is the video?
To paraphrase John Kerry, you get stuck in Denver.”
ParisParamus on August 26, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Drudge better butch up and post it boldly — or start preparing for the web fairness act.
marklmail on August 26, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Yeah, I understand. But look at it this way: We had to form an alliance with Stalin to defeat a greater evil.
Captain Hate on August 26, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Party Unity My Ass … yeah, Go PUMA!! http://blog.pumapac.org/
Let’s all be nice and show the PUMA gang some GOP lovin’!
mick on August 26, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Obama slash the military and ilteligence(like Clinton did that led to 9/11) yea that would be brilliant.. Raise Corparate and Capitol gains taxes that would send us into a depression and make millions of jobs leave the country, not to mention having no other countries investing here building business or factories.
Why would Japan for instance build more car plants here with such a high Corporate tax rates when they could just build a plant in Mexico and not have to worry about environmental laws and also have cheaper labor, and not worry about stupid lawsuits?
Chakra Hammer on August 26, 2008 at 3:16 PM
On a more sober note, other than idiots like us who have a life support tube attached to the Internet, who really knows, or will hear what Clinton said?
ParisParamus on August 26, 2008 at 3:17 PM
He was talking about McCain vs Obama.
Next.
Dave Rywall on August 26, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Let the Democrats fund their stuff.
Chakra Hammer on August 26, 2008 at 3:17 PM
When the cool frat boy is the grown up in the party, something ain’t right.
Laura in Maryland on August 26, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Of course. Why would we EVER think that, Bubba? Keep up the good work, though!!
Rick on August 26, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Bill is back on my Christmas card list!
grdred944 on August 26, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Oh yes, my good friend Funky.
So do you think McCain can get his announced and highlighted plan at his website here, passed through Congress? Do you think this plan as highlighted by John McCain will be as disastrous for the economy as many business leaders and economists have indicated?
Hello? Funky Chicken? Are you afraid to admit your preferred Candidate will most probably destroy the American Economy with this plan?
Snake307 on August 26, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Rethpect mah unit-y
innominatus on August 26, 2008 at 3:18 PM
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I agree. The only issue I really have with McCain is anmesty, and last year, we stopped it with a republican president. Obama in the house, we won’t be able to stop a worse iteration of that.
Vashta.Nerada on August 26, 2008 at 3:19 PM
unity unity everywhere
but no one to meet and greet.
theguardianii on August 26, 2008 at 3:19 PM
That is unmitigated hogwash mixed with remarkably convoluted logic.
rplat on August 26, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Look at the pictures on the top two posts. I think Bill is puttin’ the move on Amanda.
ncc770 on August 26, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Indeed.
It would appear I should have turned on the lantern, as now I have been eaten by a grue.
They told me it could happen, but I didn’t believe them!
SuperCool on August 26, 2008 at 3:20 PM
I’m trying to decide on the right cocktail for tonight’s festivities. The occasion calls for something strong, slightly sour, and a little bit girlie. I’m thinking lemon-drop martini.
Infidoll on August 26, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Wow, even Dave gets it. Not fooling anybody, are we? ;)
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 26, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Okay. Thanks for clearing that up. Party’s over, we can all go home now.
Rick on August 26, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Billy Jeff: Clandestine Operation Chaos Operative
Black Adam on August 26, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Would be nice if McCain could entice HillBill to the Republican side. Throw Hill a cabinet post and let her go through with her universal health care plan and it might be too good to resist.
JC Silverberg on August 26, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Snake307, I think you are about to outwit yourself.
Birch Barlow on August 26, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Chakra, do you think we can fight a tax increase in the Congress? Do you think we can manage to keep the Republicans in line, and even convince enough Blue Dog Democrats like John Barrow to vote against a tax increase?
I think we can. However if McCain gets in, do you think we can stop Carbon Cap and Trade? I don’t. Party Unity and all that. Do you think we can stop Amnesty for Illegal Aliens? I don’t McCain’s signature legislation.
I think we can fight the battles if we lose the opener. I think we lost the war if we elect McCain. Higher taxes will happen if McCain is elected, because the Bush Tax Cuts will expire, and there is no way Reid and Pelosi are going to let them come to a vote. The taxes will go up with McCain in the White House, guaranteed.
He won’t have to sign it, it won’t matter. It will go up, and we’ll be running GHW Bush for his second term again. We can fight a Carter in four years, or defend a GHW Bush’s “No new taxes” pledge again.
Snake307 on August 26, 2008 at 3:23 PM
It’s never too early for the Clintons to sharpen their I-told-you-so daggers. They know Obama is going to lose, and they’ve done just enough to not be blamed for his loss (O has done most of the heavy lifting on that front).
EMD on August 26, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Must be a different use of the word ‘Unity’ that I am aware of..
DaveC on August 26, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Good Lord NO.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 26, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Bill Clinton’s belief system:
1) All roads start with Bill Clinton.
2) All roads end with Bill Clinton.
3) The Sun revolves around Bill Clinton.
4) The moon revolves around Bill Clinton.
5) The stars revolve around Bill Clinton.
6) If the Bill Clinton does not get sufficient adulation, the orbital stability of the Earth will become unbalanced and we will all be Lost in Space.
MB4 on August 26, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Uh, no. I’ll pass on the universal health care.
Rick on August 26, 2008 at 3:25 PM
The Clintons do NOT support Obama. If Obama wins then Hillary will never be POTUS. If BHO loses then Hillary will run again in 2012. BHO will be damaged goods. The Clintons will do what they can to make sure the One loses.
DerKrieger on August 26, 2008 at 3:25 PM
.
yep
funky chicken on August 26, 2008 at 3:25 PM
No, I’m not talking about funding, lol … remember, they’re all coming over to the ‘eville’ republican side now. Just read they’re comments, they’re doing more to help McCain than most of his GOP supporters. Many of them are now voting for McCain and some are just going to say home. It wouldn’t take much to nudge them in the right direction.
mick on August 26, 2008 at 3:25 PM
I wonder if satan needs to borrow my down jacket…sounds like hell has just froze over.
Second look at Billy?? I can’t believe I am saying this…
takemedrunkimhome on August 26, 2008 at 3:26 PM
But today is the day for the release of those CAC documents from the UIC library. Anybody heard from Stanley Kurtz today?
How about his fellow:
http://www.globallabor.blogspot.com
funky chicken on August 26, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Haah, haah. Gotta love that guy!
But I sort of agree with BJ’s point in a strange way: I was chastised earlier for my rather explicit thoughts on Oblahblah’s likely effectiveness, but it’s true, he’s unlikely to get anything done. So maybe it’s better to vote for a flaccid egomaniac than it is to vote for somebody with whom you disagree, and who might actually get some of what you disagree with done.
But the risk that Oblahblah will sign crappy legislation from a Democrap Congress (think fairness doctrine) I think out-weighs this concern.
mr.blacksheep on August 26, 2008 at 3:26 PM
FACT The Bush tax cuts are going to expire in 2010. So that means we have to get a tax cut bill through Congress with Reid and Pelosi in charge. What are the odds of that happening? How about No way in hell. If McCain is President, there is still no way our taxes aren’t going up. They will go up, when the tax cuts expire. We’ll get blamed for it by the press, and the average citizens who don’t pay enough attention to the details, and we Republicans will be blamed.
FACT. John McCain wants Carbon Cap and trade, which has been labeled by business leaders as detrimental to the economy, several having called it disastrous. Anyone here think McCain can’t get it through Congress?
These are FACTS, from McCain’s website, and the Tax Policy website. Opinion is mixed in, but here’s the deal folks, the truth follows fact like a trailer follows a truck.
Snake307 on August 26, 2008 at 3:27 PM
When I say this I;m talking about socialized medicine that would get filibustered and destroy Obama’s “Change” message..
He would be able to get Taxes raised, corporate and capitol gains taxes(which would destroy our economy and we would lose jobs as a result)
Chakra Hammer on August 26, 2008 at 3:28 PM
why girlie, we’re talking Hilldog night! Lol More like a beer night.
mick on August 26, 2008 at 3:28 PM
Saying it over and over isn’t going to make you convince yourself otherwise!
LOL the liberal way of convinceing ones self I assume.
upinak on August 26, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Nah..something more like Vodka, with a splash of Red Bull to stay awake and watch the fun!
takemedrunkimhome on August 26, 2008 at 3:29 PM
I’m from Europe, and believe me: You DON’T want the government to completely take over health care. It doesn’t get more humane, only much more inefficient and expensive. It can bankrupt the nation within generations.
evenfarer on August 26, 2008 at 3:30 PM
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