Panic: Obama and Hillary work to cut off roll call vote before things turn embarrassing
posted at 4:44 pm on August 25, 2008 by Allahpundit
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What was it I was saying earlier about her phony “lift every voice” enfranchisement rhetoric? Oh well. Nothing says unity and catharsis like a vote that has to be suspended halfway through lest the margin of victory not turn out the way The One has foreordained. Chicago politics fever — catch it!
Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama are working on a deal to give her some votes in the roll call for the Democratic presidential nomination, but quickly end the divided balloting in unanimous consent for Obama.
Democratic officials involved in the negotiations said Monday the idea is that at the start of the state-by-state vote for the presidential nomination Wednesday night, delegates would cast their votes for Clinton or Obama.
But the voting would be cut off after a couple of states, the officials said, perhaps ending with New York, when Clinton herself would call for unanimous backing for Obama from the convention floor. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity while the deal was being finalized.
This is Hillary’s dream come true, isn’t it? She gets to play the good soldier, ostensibly, even while her fanatic supporters strike fear in the hearts of Team Barry. But then, how good a soldier are you if you’re oh so casually reminding reporters that you got the same number of votes as the nominee did and politely declining to interfere with your delegates’ very “personal decision” by asking them to vote for the other guy? Be sure to follow that last link, too, and note the enthusiasm of the New York delegation when asked whether they’re ready to elect a president. Exit quotation: “I’m thoroughly disgusted with the Democratic Party… I believe the real magic of Barack Obama was his ability to turn lifelong Democrats like us into McCain supporters overnight.”
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trailortrash on August 25, 2008 at 4:46 PM
Too late. Obama’s already embarrassing.
NoFanofLibs on August 25, 2008 at 4:47 PM
fixed?
TheSitRep on August 25, 2008 at 4:47 PM
What ever happened to “counting all of the votes”? This sounds like something out of Putin’s playbook!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2008 at 4:48 PM
The first Messiah turned water into wine.
The One has turned lifelong Democrats into McCain supporters. Which is the greater miracle?
Wethal on August 25, 2008 at 4:48 PM
This is going to be a nightmare for BO.
What a disaster. He can’t handle the announcement of VP. He surely can’t handle the Clintons at THEIR convention.
stenwin77 on August 25, 2008 at 4:49 PM
There just isn’t enough popcorn in the world for this convention.
Laura on August 25, 2008 at 4:49 PM
All delegate votes are equal. It’s just that some are more equal than others.
Cicero43 on August 25, 2008 at 4:49 PM
The honeymoon is over.
Terrye on August 25, 2008 at 4:50 PM
That kinda says it all.
stenwin77 on August 25, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Selected, not elected.
Deep in my heart, a little part of me wants Hillary to come out of this with the nomination. It won’t happen, but it’s something nice to dream about.
Anna on August 25, 2008 at 4:50 PM
This just seems so.. wrong. What’s the point of voting again?
starkc on August 25, 2008 at 4:50 PM
This sounds like a Bill Clinton Testimony release guys.
tomas on August 25, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Democracy at work.
carbon_footprint on August 25, 2008 at 4:51 PM
That picture cracks me up. I bet slick has seen that look a time or two. LMAO
myamphibian on August 25, 2008 at 4:51 PM
And these are the “democrats”?
Are we sure they’re not the aristocrats?
Browncoatone on August 25, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Why do I get a mental picture of Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown?
Think_b4_speaking on August 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Are the little thingies hanging or pregnant? Stock on popcorn and adult beverages were the only thing up today on the stock exchange.
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letget on August 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM
I wood love to see her come out Swinging.
Call Barry O out and expose him for the Fraud he is!
Capt-Dax on August 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM
I used to think Obama was just John Edwards in blackface. Now I realize that he’s Richard J. Daley sporting a shinola mug.
Kafir on August 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Wait. The person he’s counting on to prevent a scene, to urge his nomination by acclamation, the person of the moment on whom all eyes will rest, the person in whom Barack Obama is forced to place his trust, is Hillary?!
Oh, Brer Fox, *please* don’t throw her in that briar patch.
(I LOVE THIS CONVENTION SO MUCH.)
Well-Armed Lamb on August 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM
I would assume that the delegates in Florida and Michigan, after months of wrangling to get half a vote, now feel just peachy about probably getting no vote at all on the floor.
oldrammsteinfan on August 25, 2008 at 4:56 PM
mirable visu.
phronesis on August 25, 2008 at 4:56 PM
No kidding. What a farce.
CP on August 25, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Reminds one of Professional Wrestling; without the realistic flair. I guess that’s where the DNC borrowed the motif for the main stage.
Mr._Chumpo on August 25, 2008 at 4:57 PM
I think O’s been smoking again, he and Hillary been chewing some fat cigars in a backroom. Recreate 68! from the inside out.
trailboss on August 25, 2008 at 4:57 PM
That’s half of Allah’s magic. The first thing I do every morning when I get online is look at pictures/captions. AP has quite a talent.
Matticus Finch on August 25, 2008 at 4:57 PM
heh she is proving me right…she can be good cop or bad cop but her PUMAs will not let her try a middle road.
Hillary will make a judgement call by midnight on whether her having the PUMAs fall on their sword will hurt in 2012…if so she will do the minimum if not she will be a good politico operative.
sven10077 on August 25, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Watch Bill Clinton turn his assigned-topic speech (something about world security) back to what he wants to talk about – HIS ECONOMY !!
It will go something like, “you can’t have security in the world if the American economy is bad… this is how I-I-I-I did it…
This convention is going to be the best evah .
stenwin77 on August 25, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Does Team McCain actually think he’s going to be able to appeal to those disaffected voters without emphasizing some of his mavericky policies or actually changing some of his polices? He needs to show that he’s actually listening to them and not just trying to pick scaps across the aisle.
ninjapirate on August 25, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Whoa!
Obama is a bigger stooge than i thought he was.
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 4:57 PM
They have to stop the roll call?
And this is supposed to convince disaffected Hillary supporters to support Obama?
If I were a Hillary supporter, I would be more convinced then ever that Hillary could win, if given the chance, and the party is bound and determined to not give her that chance.
That’s going to motivate me to stand in a long line to vote for Barry. NOT.
MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2008 at 4:57 PM
LOL, that look probably goes back to when Hillary was in first grade and got passed over in kickball picks.
carbon_footprint on August 25, 2008 at 4:58 PM
This is what happens when you put Doctor of Self-Medication Dean in charge of a major party.
Captain Hate on August 25, 2008 at 4:58 PM
As things “turned ugly” Hillary Clinton appeared before MSNBC news cameras with a surprising “angelic glow”! This was soon, however, turned to horror as MSNBC hosts Keith Olberman and Chris Mathews, while interviewing Hillary, both on public TV ( and to the horror of viewers) each pulled down their trow…bend over and stuffed their heads up their asses…
The cameras then panned to a smiling Hillary who said she “completely supported the decision of the DNC convention in Denver…Muwhahahahahah!!!!!”
sabbott on August 25, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Dang, talk about the cliched “pimp slap“.
So let me understand this in all its messianic goodness:
Obama wants a roll call to stop after a couple of states b/c if he allows it to go all the way through, the facts are that Hillary would win. And Hillary doesnt want to just rip it out from under Obama b/c then she looks like the bad person in all this. Does that about sum it up?
“Backtracking, we can belive in!”
TheHat on August 25, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Just how big is Obama’s ego?
Whats bigger Obama’s Ego or Biden’s IQ?
Obama’s narcissism knows no bounds!
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Why should she cut a deal?
Entelechy on August 25, 2008 at 5:00 PM
We knew the Big O was a rookie but who knew his handlers could turn out something this amatuerish?
EconomicNeocon on August 25, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Here’s the thing: Hillary, as well as many, many logical people, realize that Obama will not win except with her on the ticket. BUT she does not want to be VP. How frustrating would it be for a VP to go 4-8 years behind an arrogant, affirmative-action, activist a**hole knowing that he is oblivious to all things that have a relationship to a CLUE?
carbon_footprint on August 25, 2008 at 5:01 PM
They are the DEMOCRATIC party after all.
Elizabetty on August 25, 2008 at 5:02 PM
This cracks me up. All the liberal news folk are desperately trying to push the unity thing but people are smarter than they think.
BTW, I am psyched beyond belief to be a new Hot Air commenter!!!!!!!!
BostonBeatnik on August 25, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Why cut a deal? She needs to appeal to the party brass — Howie Dean’s successor & et al. — as the get along girl in her bid for the 2012 nod.
EconomicNeocon on August 25, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Follow the lead of their hero Teddy Kennedy-embarrass the certain nominee Carter as much as possible and eventually cost the nominee the election
Goodale on August 25, 2008 at 5:03 PM
I guess that is why he picked Clueless Joe to be his running mate.
Elizabetty on August 25, 2008 at 5:04 PM
If i were her I would BLAST HIM at the convention and say that he’s going to lose, tell her supporters to vote for him but say, look i’m not going to lie, he’s has ties to a slumlord and a crazy pastor, no experience.. I don’t see how it’s possible for him to get elected unless ALL of my supporters vote for him and that’s highly unlikely.
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 5:04 PM
Oh, SNAP!
tree hugging sister on August 25, 2008 at 5:04 PM
sounds like this women is doing a wedding at the dnc right now.
trailortrash on August 25, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Useful link when watching tonight’s festivities.
MirCat on August 25, 2008 at 5:05 PM
She scares me!!
slackerjpt on August 25, 2008 at 5:05 PM
I hope McCain doesn’t see a need to pander to angry Hillary supporters by selecting a Liberal as his VP choice.
DerKrieger on August 25, 2008 at 5:06 PM
No way will Hillary be the one to make it unanimous. That’s just too much humiliation for The Clintons.
CanadianGuy on August 25, 2008 at 5:06 PM
You think people are dumb enough to fall for the phony “chaos” theme cooked up by the right, Boston?
Besides the bitter bumpkins, of course.
Obama’s still leading in the polls…looks cool going into the convention…and Scrooge McCain has now removed his shoes in a vain attempt to count up all his houses.
alphie on August 25, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Wonder if she got 22 million reasons to call off the floor vote… She probably figured out it’s better to wait until ‘12 than try to catch up now. Let J’obama take the fall…
phreshone on August 25, 2008 at 5:07 PM
I can say “Selected, Not Elected” nao?
/lolcat
BohicaTwentyTwo on August 25, 2008 at 5:07 PM
What’s that smell?
Think_b4_speaking on August 25, 2008 at 5:08 PM
I hope these Democrats don’t turn into sheep and stand down once the cameras come on… if this sort of thing hits the air while the country watches, no spin in the world could mitigate the disaster.
Wineaholic on August 25, 2008 at 5:08 PM
First they establish a system to pick a nominee, then override it with superdelegates to makes sure the right candidate is selected. Then they only count half of MI and FL votes in the primaries (which if fully counted Hill would have won, right?) then they give them full voting rights in the name of unity at the convention. Then they will allow a roll call, but now will cut it off so it goes the way they want.
The pattern seems to be: “We’ll give you peasants a chance to vote the right way, and if you don’t, we’ll take over and make sure it gets done right, thank you very much.”
DEMOCRATS: THE ANTI-DEMOCRATIC PARTY!
JustTruth101 on August 25, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Oh please oh please oh please oh please…
Cicero43 on August 25, 2008 at 5:09 PM
…while Biden counts up his racial slurs on Indians, blacks, and all the other groups he has not thrown under the bus, but has thrown under, on top of, and into the bus.
TheHat on August 25, 2008 at 5:09 PM
She’s smarter pretending to support him. She can run in 2012 if he loses. Her 2008 ‘good will’ can come in handy later.
Entelechy on August 25, 2008 at 5:09 PM
SHUCKS! I was kinda hoping for a superdelegate surprise and Hillary would be nominated after all Nobama’s gaffes and immaturity. Now that’d make some good publicity!
desertdweller on August 25, 2008 at 5:10 PM
Why don’t we just do the same for the general? Count a couple of states and annoint the One. He is what we have been waiting for after all.
Les in NC on August 25, 2008 at 5:11 PM
The Olympic breast-stroker certainly did his best to humiliate Dhimmi Crater at the convention, but four years of malaise-speak and hostages were what sunk Billy’s dumb brother.
Captain Hate on August 25, 2008 at 5:11 PM
I have got to stock up on popcorn and beer! This could be the best thing on TV in a very long time.
bopbottle on August 25, 2008 at 5:11 PM
That’s the Master Plan
DerKrieger on August 25, 2008 at 5:11 PM
Obama says he’s giving Bill Clinton editorial control.
CanadianGuy on August 25, 2008 at 5:12 PM
I think Senator Obama has a great idea, here. Very efficient. And I think we should use Senator Obama’s approach to democracy for the general Presidential election as well. We can stop counting the votes right after the states beginning with “A.” Alabama, Alaska, Arizona & Arkansas.
Loxodonta on August 25, 2008 at 5:13 PM
You guys have got to stop this! I am laughing so hard my sides hurt and my face hurts. LMAO big time!
Just heard they have cancelled Hillary Appreciation Day! Snoopy Dance, Snoopy Dance!
Mega dittos to Wethal! The first Messiah would be the answer, but this is truly amazing and miraclesque of THE ONE to perform such a feat so quickly. Now we just need McCain to be turned into a true Conservative and things would be well with the world.
And can you guys believe this? I have heard this many times, but I just keep thinking this is a constant rolling of SNL! Just when you think the Dems have done the dumbest thing ever; they give us another gift. WOW!
freeus on August 25, 2008 at 5:13 PM
It is your party coming apart, why are you over here yelling at us? Do you think you are going to change our minds? Do you think we are going to fix your party for you?
Does your mommy know you are on the computer?
Elizabetty on August 25, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Obama IS Ozymandias!
Self proclaimed King of Kings, reigning over a desert of ruins and rubble.
Oh the irony.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 25, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Isn’t bagging the roll call kinda a big deal?
Don’t the states usually jocky for position by “passing” to try to be the state that puts the candidate over the top?
Why isn’t the MSM all over this story?
I guess that last question shoots a hole in the maxim about there being no such thing as a stupid question.
rockhead on August 25, 2008 at 5:15 PM
The way the Convention looks like a patriotic light show I think you should have titled this “Panic at the Disco.”
I just love how wide eyed innocent Hillary looks when asked about all this? “Who me? Why I fully support Obama!.”
What a grand manipulator.
Rightwingsparkle on August 25, 2008 at 5:15 PM
We have become such an impatient society. The Democratic primary was very close and probably should have gone to the convention. But the media can’t stand the unpredictable, everything has to be staged. If the Democratic Party hadn’t have been so impatient and eager to get a nominee, the Democratic voters would have felt the process played out itself out fairly and not hold such bitterness. Now everything seems so contrived.
terryannonline on August 25, 2008 at 5:15 PM
I’d like to congratulate the commentators for resisting alphies bait. Anyone who thinks Obambi is doing well right now really needs a visit from the local controlled substance enforcement department.
Obambi is depending on Hillary to cut off the roll call and do a unanimous consent? Riiiiiiiight.
Vanceone on August 25, 2008 at 5:15 PM
To address your lone area of expertise: Does Denver have enough porta-potties?
Captain Hate on August 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM
WOW – Never thought I would think it, let alone say it..
BUT – I am going to enjoy watching the DEM convention this time around. Whomever is the controlling power behind the BHO campaign is very worthy Democrat and I as a JM supporter dearly appreciate his/her efforts.
Panentheist on August 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM
That’s true, Eliz…I’m still a Republican.
I didn’t think we could go any lower than little Bush, but…having a nobody like Scrooge McCain on the heading the ticket is worse.
And seeing the reheated Rove tactics replacing any actual platform means its the Republicans who are the desperate ones.
alphie on August 25, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Madame Speaker! The Democrat delegates of the great state of Confusion, anchored in defeat yet united by class envy and poor hygiene… begrudgingly casts its votes for the jug-eared poseur.
viking01 on August 25, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Is it okay to boo when the votes get cut off, or will the Commissars round them up and throw them in Camp Obama for a little re-education if they do?
Buy Danish on August 25, 2008 at 5:20 PM
BullS***! you said that you wanted to disband the military last night. get out of here..
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 5:20 PM
It’s not HRC’s style to stab in the back, but what if she chooses NOT to move for unanimous consent to nominate B.O. at the moment of truth?
waukee on August 25, 2008 at 5:21 PM
It’s always been hard, I just think about getting banned for what I would say.
Les in NC on August 25, 2008 at 5:21 PM
for all the newbies here alphie is a resident troll..
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Motion denied.
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.
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LETS VOTE!
shooter on August 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM
I repeat, but after this convention Machiavelli will definitely take second place, forever.
Entelechy on August 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM
You think maybe the card she plays is, “Well, I’ll say anything you want, but you agree not to run again in 2012.”
Matticus Finch on August 25, 2008 at 5:23 PM
A lot can happen between now and Wednesday night…
Weight of Glory on August 25, 2008 at 5:23 PM
It would have appeared very gracious and unifying if it had been done as a surprise. Now that it’s out and being discussed, the whole “they’re trying to cut a deal” makes the roll-call interruption just venal premeditated drama. The only people stupid enough to buy it are already stupid enough to support Obama, so what does it solve?
innominatus on August 25, 2008 at 5:23 PM
“The issue was resolved by the House, on 17 February 1801 after thirty-six ballots, when Jefferson was elected President and Burr Vice President.” – Wikipedia
I’d like to see Obama survive that!
Mr_Magoo on August 25, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Yeah- this bit about there being friction between Clinton and Obama supporters is all just another Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. The polls showing a significant number of Clinton supporters flipping to McCain? DIEBOLD. The quotes from disaffected Clinton supporters? ROVE.
Obama went from a commanding lead in the polls to a statistical dead heat. He’s an empty suit who’s greatest accomplishments consist of a speech and two books written about his most favorite subject- himself.
McCain is the average looking girl next door with a steady job and dreams of a house in the suburbs. Obama is the hot, easy stripper with big fake knockers but little between the ears. Sure, the latter might be fun for a few initial dates, but when it comes time to pick a wife, most will sober up and pick the former.
Hollowpoint on August 25, 2008 at 5:24 PM
I CALL SHENANIGANS.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 25, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Yeah, I think we should disband the U.S. military Chakra.
Infantile worship of anything in uniform isn’t a requirement to being a Republican.
Besides…it looks like we’re cutting and running from Iraq anyways….what do we need a military for now?
alphie on August 25, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Do none of you realize how AWESOME THE MESSIAH is?
Why, century old Democrat traditions are meaningless compared to THE ONE. WHy should we have a floor vote when we know Obama/Biden cannot possibly be defeated!
Forget the past! Democracy is dead! We are now The Totalitarian Party! Communism for All! Blind Adherence To The One’s Commands!
FOR PARTY! FOR DOMINANCE! FOR RULE!
BKennedy on August 25, 2008 at 5:26 PM
alphie on August 25, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Which party is having the “pretend” floor vote? And real live grown ups (pardon the expression) sat in a room and negotiated it. I won’t claim it as the right’s chaos but I think is safe to say it is chaos nonetheless.
Cindy Munford on August 25, 2008 at 5:26 PM
You think people are dumb enough to fall for the phony “chaos” theme cooked up by the right, Boston?
Besides the bitter bumpkins, of course.
Obama’s still leading in the polls…looks cool going into the convention…and Scrooge McCain has now removed his shoes in a vain attempt to count up all his houses.
alphie on August 25, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Dammit – my first post on HA and I waste it having to admit I’m a bitter bumpkin. From Mississippi no less – so the shoes comment, I don’t get. What’s a shoe???
meoky on August 25, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Why am I not surprised the democrats are willing to fix the roll call vote? I wonder if people are going to go along with it and what Clinton gets out of it?
Blake on August 25, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Did you see this quote from Hillary today?
“Remember: 18 million people voted for me – 18 million people, give or take, voted for Barack,” Clinton said.
Just a subtle reminder that she got more votes.
She’s EVIL!
Now that she isn’t a threat. I LOVE IT!
Rightwingsparkle on August 25, 2008 at 5:26 PM
I’m watching the Hilary supporters and Obama supporters fight each other behind Chris Matthews.
Enoxo on August 25, 2008 at 5:26 PM
alphie on August 25, 2008 at 5:25 PM
And you would know what about, worship, uniform and Republican?
Cindy Munford on August 25, 2008 at 5:27 PM
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