Panic: Obama and Hillary work to cut off roll call vote before things turn embarrassing
posted at 4:44 pm on August 25, 2008 by Allahpundit
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What was it I was saying earlier about her phony “lift every voice” enfranchisement rhetoric? Oh well. Nothing says unity and catharsis like a vote that has to be suspended halfway through lest the margin of victory not turn out the way The One has foreordained. Chicago politics fever — catch it!
Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama are working on a deal to give her some votes in the roll call for the Democratic presidential nomination, but quickly end the divided balloting in unanimous consent for Obama.
Democratic officials involved in the negotiations said Monday the idea is that at the start of the state-by-state vote for the presidential nomination Wednesday night, delegates would cast their votes for Clinton or Obama.
But the voting would be cut off after a couple of states, the officials said, perhaps ending with New York, when Clinton herself would call for unanimous backing for Obama from the convention floor. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity while the deal was being finalized.
This is Hillary’s dream come true, isn’t it? She gets to play the good soldier, ostensibly, even while her fanatic supporters strike fear in the hearts of Team Barry. But then, how good a soldier are you if you’re oh so casually reminding reporters that you got the same number of votes as the nominee did and politely declining to interfere with your delegates’ very “personal decision” by asking them to vote for the other guy? Be sure to follow that last link, too, and note the enthusiasm of the New York delegation when asked whether they’re ready to elect a president. Exit quotation: “I’m thoroughly disgusted with the Democratic Party… I believe the real magic of Barack Obama was his ability to turn lifelong Democrats like us into McCain supporters overnight.”
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Hey alphie, glad you could made it.
How is Barracky doing in the polls, btw? He seems to have lost the adult vote. Perhaps you can get ACORN to do some election fraud and you can nab the child vote instead.
Barack is going to lose in a landslide. The current poll says it alphie. Give up. You are supporting a loser, with loser policies. Go back to your wretched kingdom of loserdom and wallow in The One Loser’s immense pool of Loserness. Loser.
BKennedy on August 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Anyone who still believes this laugher should read your quote praising FDR for running up a deficit to a record 30% of GDP because “government spending makes people more productive”.
Chuck Schick on August 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Somewhere, in a dark corner of that arena, Uncle Joe Stalin is looking on and smiling.
If this is how Osama Obama reacts to challenges, what will he do when it’s time to face a real enemy?
MrScribbler on August 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM
You’re not a very good liar. You do realize that this isn’t Kos or DU where members of the opposing party are banned on sight, right? Democrats are welcome to comment here if they behave themselves… though I suspect that you’re pushing your luck with the mindless trolling.
Hollowpoint on August 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM
“Yeah, we respect the voice of the people…NOT!”
What a fine way to ensure that many, MANY Democrats will NOT vote for Obama in November (…or possibly FOR McCain).
There’s just not enough popcorn to pass around this time!!!
Lockstein13 on August 25, 2008 at 5:29 PM
The plan on the floor sounds like a great script for a Musical. I wonder if Hillary will start to sing Hello Dolly! Good for entertainment.
Bad for democracy.
petunia on August 25, 2008 at 5:30 PM
If you want a look at a consolidation of JUST THE EVENTS OF TODAY of the chaos and the convention hasn’t even started yet…Go here!
Rightwingsparkle on August 25, 2008 at 5:30 PM
What reality in which there are no threats to our well-being whatsoever, and never will be, do you live in? I’d like to consider getting a summer home there.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 25, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Barak Obama, he’s a cheater,
Had an opponent, but couldn’t beat her.
And so that over her, he could continue to gloat,
He gave the order not to count the votes.
- Bitter Bumpkin
Loxodonta on August 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM
If you have to lie to make your point, maybe your point is not true.
Obama is not winning any polls now, they are tied. And nobody believes you are a Republican.
Elizabetty on August 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM
wait…don’t the 7..err…8 extra states get to vote? After all, The One has added them, and bow they don’t get recognition?
/sarc off
so glad I registered! :)
stuck_in_Obama_land on August 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM
NOW
stuck_in_Obama_land on August 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM
There will be blood.
Metaphorically speaking.
Don’t wanna’ get that in the popcorn.
Tony Soprano on August 25, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Don’t you just hate surprises.
You know the old saying… the enemy of my enemy is my friend. mccain and Hillary… working together to “kick O to the Curb!”
upinak on August 25, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Hollowpoint on August 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Ignore it.
I don’t think it is smart enough to understand demographics or morals.
upinak on August 25, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Madame Speaker! The Democrat delegates of the great state of Confusion, anchored in defeat yet united by class envy and poor hygiene… begrudgingly casts its votes for the jug-eared poseur.
viking01 on August 25, 2008 at 5:18 PM
HYSTERICAL!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!
This totally sums up what is going to happen tonight!
freeus on August 25, 2008 at 5:33 PM
The state by state roll call is the rock solid core of what the convention is built around. To toss the roll call aside after a few states would cause anger, panic and should I say it?….
Chaos!
No matter how deftly Barry and Hill try to juggle this jellyfish, delegates are myriad voters are going to be seriously P.O.ed.
Can’t wait to watch it!
Jack.
Jack Deth on August 25, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Maybe to help during natural disasters, like during Katrina when the helicopters were lifting people off of rooftops or in California when they were helping to put out wildfires, or in the midwest when floods hit and they help to fill sandbags and exacuate people.. or when the Navy bring Aid to places when tsunami’s hit.. quit being a troll.
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 5:36 PM
“the real magic of Barack Obama was his ability to turn lifelong Democrats like us into McCain supporters overnight”
Touché!
BarriO only looks good to himself and his wannabees.
Hillary, in trying to look good (if that’s what she’s trying to do) is looking odd instead.
After all that Americans have been through for Hillary, and she’s throwing in the towel to sop up the blood bath that need not have been so damned politically bloody except that she willed it so.
If she wanted to press the Super Delegate support, she should never have formally resigned her campaign, but temporarily suspend it.
If she wanted her supporters to be “counted” as existing democrat votes, she should not double cross the voters in an act of “contrition” to BarriO, stopping the roll call.
It’s creepy. Instead of catharsis,
there’s a gaseous haze in the air.
Hannity keeps stressing how Hollywood has organized the DNC Convention to the teeth. Remembering “Excalibur”, drawing the sword from the stone, I can see Caroline Kennedy projecting that Camelot illusion for their squirrelly democrat POTUS coronation of BarriO.
Instead of visions of sugar plums, who else senses nightmares from Denver?
maverick muse on August 25, 2008 at 5:36 PM
That’s exactly what I was thinking! Although I wouldn’t have said it exactly that way…but people probably get the way you say it faster.
Time for the “Dated Obama Married McCain bumper stickers!”
Awww Yesssss! I think I figured out how to quote!
petunia on August 25, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Prospect.org: PARTY PEOPLE: KAREN BROWN AND BONNIE TIERNEY, CLINTON AND MCCAIN SUPPORTERS
HaHaHaHa! Bring on the unity!
notta_dhimmi on August 25, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Obama selected not elected.
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 5:38 PM
So is this why Obama insisted Florida and Michigan(spit) get a full vote?
So they could not count them anyway?
“They pull the race card, you pull Rezko. He sends one of yours to the voting booth, you send that one out to buy pizza!
Tony Soprano on August 25, 2008 at 5:38 PM
No nightmares here… just explosions.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 25, 2008 at 5:38 PM
I think the suspension of voting to nominate by acclaimation will be a major mistake, no matter which candidates or DNC members support it. If this happens, we will know that the Marxists have taken over in spirit. This is the last chance for the Democrats to really behave like Democratic Americans. In my opinion, party unity is not more important than an honest vote counting. The party in congress has been taking all actions to prevent real votes, but do things by consent. That is the same thing they want to do in their convention. Remember, these are the same leftist partisans that have been pushing the “not-elected Bush” agenda for eight years and torturing us with the every vote counts political misdirection. What they want to do is no different than Hugo Chavez, Allenda, or Ortega. They get in power and there is no more need for votes. And, you don’t really thing the MSM will stand up for us, do you, if this happens?
Old Country Boy on August 25, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Let the circus begin!
ProximMaximus on August 25, 2008 at 5:39 PM
That would be way more than a couple of states before they get to New York, since the roll call is in alphabetical order.
From the rule book:
7. Roll Call for Presidential Candidate:
a. After nominations for presidential candidates have closed, the Convention shall
proceed to a roll call vote by states on the selection of the presidential candidate.
The roll call voting shall follow the alphabetical order of the states with the
District of Columbia and Puerto Rico and the territories treated as states for the
purpose of the alphabetical roll call.
b. A majority vote of the Convention’s delegates shall be required to nominate the
presidential candidate.
c. Delegates may vote for the candidate of their choice whether or not the name of
such candidate was placed in nomination. Any vote cast other than a vote for a
presidential candidate meeting the requirements of Article VI of this Call and
Rule 12.K. of the 2008 Delegate Selection Rules shall be considered a vote for
“Present.”
d. Balloting will continue until a nominee is selected. The nominee shall become
the candidate of the Democratic Party of the United States for the Office of
President upon the conclusion of his or her acceptance speech.
Furthermore:
VIII. PROCEDURAL RULES OF THE 2008 DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION
3. Roll Call Votes:
a. Voting shall be by voice vote or, when prescribed by these rules, by roll call vote.
The roll call voting shall follow the order as specified in Article VIII.C.7.a. A roll
call vote shall also be had if the Chair is in doubt or upon demand of any delegate
supported by twenty percent (20%) of the Convention’s delegates as evidenced
by one of the following methods:
(1) A petition submitted to the Chair indicating support of the
demand by delegations which comprise not less than twenty
percent (20%) of the Convention’s delegates. In the case of the
petition in support of a demand for a roll call vote, a delegation
shall be taken to support the demand if a majority of its delegates
have signed a petition to do so.
(2) By the rising in support of the demand by not less than twenty
percent (20%) of the delegates present.
So it seems to me that if 20% of the delegates want every vote to be counted, they will be counted. At least until one candidate has tallied the required total to win the thing.
Buddahpundit on August 25, 2008 at 5:41 PM
That’s when they pick up the handbasket and everyone heads off to hell.
pedestrian on August 25, 2008 at 5:41 PM
The perfect screen cap.
Hillary will be the good soldier up till the first knife stroke which should be right after the lights go out.
After the scream in the dark it’ll be all CSI.
Clinton Shoe In.
Speakup on August 25, 2008 at 5:41 PM
petunia:
Send me one of those bumper stickers. I’ll pay.
texette on August 25, 2008 at 5:43 PM
A good number of people have stood strong behind Clinton. Not sure why she thinks dumping on them is the right thing to do.
Blake on August 25, 2008 at 5:44 PM
It’s as if Obama has figuratively urinated on Hillary and all of her supporters.
marklmail on August 25, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Heh. Is it possible that there is a standard for “simply too stupid to comment here?” (Formal request for AP not to answer this question).
Jaibones on August 25, 2008 at 5:46 PM
This will go over well.
ThePrez on August 25, 2008 at 5:47 PM
I get it, Alphie is a PaulTard.
It’s all perfectly clear now.
ChrisM on August 25, 2008 at 5:48 PM
No, he’s just someone who knows that people can’t refrain from responding to his posts.
There’s no telling what he believes. Other than grilled cheese and him crippled mother paying his bills.
Tony Soprano on August 25, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Wow Chris Matthew can’t even hear the truth about the school that Obama went to in Indonesia. Maybe the girl said something that wasn’t true? Because I have seen that thingy that they can it be that Matthews hadn’t seen it. I mean it is clear that SOMEONE in Indonesia though Barack was Muslim. Unless the doc I saw were fake.
petunia on August 25, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Marxism at its best! Mich and Fla replay en grande scale …
Benjamin9 on August 25, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Vince Foster was unavailable for comment
Wade on August 25, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Maybe on Tuesday night Hillary should come to the podium with a long straw and a milkshake….
phreshone on August 25, 2008 at 6:04 PM
Isn’t this the same party that was complaining about not counting Florida’s votes properly?
Oh, I see… they are making it up to them by not counting the entire country’s votes.
Good idea!
…
If anyone at that convention had any sense of democracy or self respect, they would get up and walk out before “acclaiming” The One to be the nominee.
Damiano on August 25, 2008 at 6:11 PM
The info about the compromise comes from unnamed “Democratic officials” – probably Obamans. I wouldn’t bet the bank that HRC is agreeing to it.
ForNow on August 25, 2008 at 6:15 PM
Did you miss the memo from Barack The whiny One? We still have to pacify Afghanistan and then invade Pakistan.
TooTall on August 25, 2008 at 6:28 PM
There has to be someone around here that is more talented than me who can set up a website for voting for Hillary or Obama. Best case scenario would be if it could only be voted on by delegates and would be up and running before Wednesday.
If someone does it, I will write the press release.
Damiano on August 25, 2008 at 6:29 PM
I was thinking the other way. A Clintonite leaking to make Obama appear afraid of her. Makes him look a lot worse.
a capella on August 25, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Call off the balloting after New York? Hmmm, New York comes after Florida and Michigan in the alphabet. If ALL the Florida delegates vote as pledged in the primary, and the Michigan delegates are 60% Hillary and 40% “Present” (or Uncommitted), the New York delegates will put Hillary way ahead. Add on Ohio and Pennsylvania (a little later in the alphabet) and things start looking scary for Barry O.
Along about then, Hillary says to David Axelrod, “You know that deal we made about cutting off the balloting? How about we continue through Wyoming, and then your guy could be MY Veep?”
And the celestial choirs start singing.
Steve Z on August 25, 2008 at 6:34 PM
The New 269th Psalm, or
The Book of Democrat
Obama Is My Shepherd, I Shall Not Want.
He Leadeth Me Beside Still Factories,
He Restoreth My Faith In The Republican Party,
He Guideth Me In The Paths Of Unemployment.
Yea, Though I Walk Through The Valley Of The Bread Line,
I Shall Not Go Hungry.
Obama Has Anointed My Income With Taxes,
My Expenses Runneth Over My Income,
Surely, Poverty And Hard Living Will Follow Me
All The Days Of My Life.
The Democrats And I Will Live Forever In a Rented Room.
But I Am Glad I Am an American,
I Am Glad That I Am Free.
But I Wish I Was A Dog,
And Obama A Tree.
Dr Evil on August 25, 2008 at 6:41 PM
Of course HillBill were just plain evil to all of us when they were the current foe. But I can’t help liking the heartburn they are bring to bear on the ONE. I feel giddy, I like it, I like it. It is so deliciously naughty in a perverted way.
mustng66 on August 25, 2008 at 6:44 PM
Yeah, he showed lack of confidence by trying to avoid a roll call vote, then seemed weak by agreeing to it, ending up with the worst of both worlds. But it was some of his supporters, like Donna Brazile, saying things that made it clear what was happening.
And now they’re negotiating issues supposedly settled.
I think that the main target of the remarks leaked in the article would be in the immediate situation – and in the immediate situation I see an anti-HRC target of demoralizing some HRC activists.
ForNow on August 25, 2008 at 6:45 PM
I couldn’t love that picture more. Way better than a 1000 words-
anniekc on August 25, 2008 at 7:00 PM
Schadenwoode.
Catch the Fevah.
sulla on August 25, 2008 at 7:07 PM
Has anyone else noticed the drama around this guy. I’m worn out already. He is more than the biggest celebrity in the world, he is the biggest diva.
EyesOpen on August 25, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Ending the vote prematurely would be the stupidist thing they could POSSIBLY do if their goal is to have a united party! Let’s all hope it happens. LOL
davenp35 on August 25, 2008 at 7:25 PM
I would love to see that! If they try to stop the vote, the Obamites will lose control. Once they lose control, they will lose the nomination.
Their only hope is to allow a full vote, and hope they win.
That would be sort of like how the Dems have been lecturing the whole country that it must be done for the last 8 years, you know?
drunyan8315 on August 25, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Barack Calrissian: “That was never part of our agreement!”
Hillary Vader: “I am altering the agreement… pray I do not alter it further!”
The Monster on August 25, 2008 at 7:57 PM
I understand the point about the Greater Socialists (D) being divided and how that helps the Lesser Socialists (R), but the whole ordeal is really hard to stomach. Maybe it is because I remember the 90s and just want the Clintonistas and their ilk to fade away as soon as possible. If there was some kind of major policy dispute, if Obama said that Bill had illegitimate black babies in South Carolina, or something like that I’d understand, but all this is supposedly about is feelings. Paul Tsongas and Jerry Brown did nothing like this. Frankly I have a hard time understanding how murderers like the Clinton who killed people at Waco without batting an eye and who probably offed Vince Foster could have such thin skins. Go away Hillary, drink shots with all those people you ridiculed during the nineties, who are now “your people” so I don’t have to see you ugly face anymore. Retire to a warmer climate and when you die it will be even warmer.
LevStrauss on August 25, 2008 at 8:02 PM
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I PREDICTED LAST WEEK!! Steve, let’s hope we’re wrong.
leftnomore on August 25, 2008 at 8:05 PM
+2
It is quite fun to see Hillary have some one else by the gonads——Willy’s got to know what Obama’s going through just about now.
Rovin on August 25, 2008 at 8:11 PM
They seem awfully close to engineering a riot.
Kralizec on August 25, 2008 at 8:17 PM
Who is or isn’t a “real” Republican will be decided soon, Elizabetty .
In the same place Christian right-wing Republican Larry Craig took his wide stance.
How appropriate.
alphie on August 25, 2008 at 8:20 PM
I can do without your vote.
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 8:24 PM
From what I gather, about as much as he/she/it knows about the world outside a college campus, sans mom and dad’s Visa and unlimted use of their Beemer.
Saw this sort of crisis comming when Phish broke up: bunch of drug addled rich white liberal arts majors with nothing to do and too much time on their hands.
SuperCool on August 25, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Is it going to involve the Mystery Machine and the caretaker of a haunted amusement park?
Chuck Schick on August 25, 2008 at 8:38 PM
I think it will involve a bunch of “conservatives” grabbing their ankles, Chuck.
alphie on August 25, 2008 at 8:42 PM
So you, and I presume people like yourself, are going to use forcible sodomy to impose some sort of party orthodoxy on the “Bitter Bumpkins”?
SuperCool on August 25, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Terry McAuliffe just said (on Hannity & Colmes) that the Democratic Party has never been more unified than it is right now.
Although he croaked it out because he’s hoarse. From trying to spread love & happiness throught the MSM, perhaps?
tru2tx on August 25, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Rock solid Republicans stood up to McCain and his cronies of the left when he attempted to legislate no-questions-asked amnesty. You suppose Democrats who’ve drunk enough Kool-aid to make it to the convention are capable of standing up to these “negotiations” and demanding a real roll call? My guess is no.
highhopes on August 25, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Sadly, that’s probably true. They are essentially divided into two factions instead of the usual myriad of special interests.
highhopes on August 25, 2008 at 9:10 PM
Oh, please cut off the votes! That would spur the pro-Hillary votes to go to McCain out of spite! PLEASE CUT OFF THE VOTES!!!
bryan2369 on August 25, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Pardon me, as I am new to this site and all, but I have NEVER met anyone who is a republican who disrespects anyone in a uniform or who believes it to be “infantile worship”. No thanks to my grandfather, my father, my brothers and a few cousins, you are able to make these ignorant, stupid and just down right dumba$$ remarks here on HA.
And, I would just like to know where in the heck you think this country would be if we disbanded the military, which has got to be the most ABSURD thing I have ever heard in my life.
Smitty24 on August 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM
America would be $700,000,000,000+ a year richer if we disbanded the military, Smitty.
alphie on August 25, 2008 at 10:02 PM
wow did they come up with this all by them selfs or did they get the idea from Hugo .
popcorn stocked up check .
JD stocked up check
Deomcrat convention throwing out the rules Check
Operation Chaos still in effect Check.
Mojack420 on August 25, 2008 at 10:05 PM
And where would that leave you when someone, like, oh, I don’t know, China, Iran, Russian, etc. came and took over our country. Your beloved ranting rituals would be over, because your dumba$$ would be in jail for speaking your mind about any political situation that came up.
Do you not know that freedom is not free and that whether you like it or not, there is a price for everything. But then again, so far, the price has obviously not hit home for you, so why would you understand.
Smitty24 on August 25, 2008 at 10:08 PM
A recent report from the Pentagon stated that only about 6000 U.S. combat troops ready for action were actually based in America, Smitty….the rest are in Iraq, Afghanistan, Germany, etc.
In other words, the U.S. military is in no position to stop China, Russia or Hugo Chavez from invading us…if they wanted to.
alphie on August 25, 2008 at 10:15 PM
And the Wheels on the Bus go falling off!!!!
jtpcamp on August 25, 2008 at 10:40 PM
viking01 on August 25, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Gold!
btw, anyone else notice Hillary’s face? Time to release the Strategic Botox Reserves.
ex-Democrat on August 25, 2008 at 10:46 PM
America would be $700,000,000,000+ a year richer if we disbanded the military, Smitty.
alphie on August 25, 2008 at 10:02 PM
And you forget to add, We would all be worshiping Islam.
jtpcamp on August 25, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Who’s the director on this picture? Mikie Moore…
‘Cuz it’s like science fiction or a badly staged, cheesy, mini series or sumpin’
RocketmanBob on August 25, 2008 at 10:53 PM
All it takes is a few thousand goat herders to get the Bitter Bumpkins to start praying to a different imaginary being, jtp?
alphie on August 25, 2008 at 10:59 PM
I can’t wait until the NRA unloads on Barry O and “Author of the ‘94 gun ban hisself” Uncle Joe. I may have to hold my nose and vote for McLame after all.
darwin-t on August 25, 2008 at 11:04 PM
I think alphie is working for a secretary of
warpeaceappeasement gig.darwin-t on August 25, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Thanks! Glad you both enjoyed it.
viking01 on August 25, 2008 at 11:12 PM
You once suggested to me that I not feed alphie, but it can be hard at times, no?
Glynn on August 25, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Is there any kind of update on this? Is this a done deal or not so much?
powerpro on August 26, 2008 at 12:21 AM
What is it the libs quote, 10B a day in Iraq, that’s only 3,650,000,000,000 p/y. And we’re getting a great RoI on it. (Return on Investment, for socialist clowns who don’t know anything about business.) I doubt the rest of the non-war military composes 696,350,000,000,000+ p/y.
America would be several TRILLION (1,000,000,000X) dollars richer if we cut all of our bloated, poorly managed, horribly inefficient entitlement programs.
So why don’t you want to cut those alphie? You want government to be efficient, don’t you?
Oh wait, you’re a socialist, your favorite countries are bloated, entitled, and defenseless, whereas America prefers being known as efficient, hard-working, and armed to the teeth.
BKennedy on August 26, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Wow, I really got my zeros screwed up there.
Should be:
3,650,000,000,000 p/y Iraq War.
Igrone the second number, that was a misread.
And Trillion(s) should read
1,000,000,000,000X
BKennedy on August 26, 2008 at 12:34 AM
I’d love to see Scrooge McCAin come out against Social Security, BK.
Oh, wait, he already did.
alphie on August 26, 2008 at 1:34 AM
and a nice little gem here from you too man
let me quote here from something you might not be very familiar with (based on your above statements)
-Preamble to the U.S. Constitution
and
-Article I, Section VIII, U.S. Constitution
Finally to protect annoying socialistic weasels like yourself (and European freeloaders) from anything bad in this world (you know like a really bad case of death)
I mean to quote Bill O’ Reilly here
Does that answer your question as to what we need a military for?
Also do note that more money can be saved by either scrapping or otherwise reforming:
a.) our horribly conflated tax system
b.) entitlement spending (Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security to name a few (thank you very much Mr. Compassion in Chief btw for making this job a helluva lot harder on us Reps))
and
c.) our pork barrel aka “earmark” spending (can I get an oink oink?)
SgtSVJones on August 26, 2008 at 1:57 AM
guess so.. it’s like why is he here?
Chakra Hammer on August 26, 2008 at 3:57 AM
Massive inferiority complex.
BKennedy on August 26, 2008 at 7:46 AM
If the Obamanation cuts off the votes with just Illinois and New York, what would happen if at that point New York with more delegates than Illinois makes it so that Hillary has the lead at that point?
eaglewingz08 on August 26, 2008 at 8:54 AM
Moral: Don’t mess with the Clintons
The press thought if they ignored the Clintons they would go away.
The press also thought if they didnt mention the Edwards affair no one would notice thus handing a plum to the Clinton side. The so-called secret could be saved until just before the election, taking Edwards out with no time for rehabilitation. And Silky could talk his way out of this if he had time. Bill Clinton pulled it off.
The mildly humorous part is Edwards staffers were left hanging without a shed of prestige on convention day, guaranteeing they would never regroup to help Edwards
Timing is everything
Once again Hillary has timing on her side because the convention is in your face now.
She is the cat toying with the mouse who thinks he is a big dog
entagor on August 26, 2008 at 9:16 AM
Obombem=if it feels good do it, but don’t forget to give me your money for granting you the permission to do it.
MSGTAS on August 26, 2008 at 9:50 AM
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