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New McCain ad targets Hillary voters: “Debra”

posted at 7:40 am on August 25, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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If anyone doubted that John McCain would target disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters, his new ad should convince the holdouts. The new spokesperson for McCain has some experience campaigning — she campaigned for Hillary and was an elected delegate for her in Wisconsin until she got a little too vocal about her dislike for Barack Obama:

I’m a proud Hillary Clinton Democrat. She had the experience and judgment to be President.

Now, in a first for me, I’m supporting a Republican, John McCain. I respect his maverick and independent streak, and now he’s the one with the experience and judgment.

A lot of Democrats will vote McCain. It’s okay, really!

Debra Bartoshevich made national headlines when she publicly announced her support for John McCain after Obama won the primaries. The Wisconsin Democratic Party kicked her out of the state delegation for her apostasy, which led to her offended appearance on a local TV station. In truth, the party had little choice but to eject her, and given the reception others have received in Denver, Bartoshevich may be better off in St. Paul instead.

I’d expect this to get some play during the Democratic convention itself. Team McCain says it will air in “key states”, but the timing of the ad’s release hints at heavy play this week. Having Bartoshevich make this pitch now underscores McCain’s willingness to fight for this election and getting creative and flexible in doing so.

Will this convince others to follow Debra’s lead? Eighteen million people voted for Hillary in the Democratic primaries. If McCain can capture 10-20% of those, this ad will be well worth it.


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I’m a proud Hillary Clinton Democrat. She had the experience and judgment to be President.
Now, in a first for me, I’m supporting a Republican, John McCain. I respect his maverick and independent streak, and now he’s the one with the experience and judgment.
A lot of Democrats will vote McCain. It’s okay, really!

Change you can BELIEVE in….

I think if Juan plays it subtle he can gain some of her denizens without irritating people like me TOO much more than he has already.

sven10077 on August 25, 2008 at 7:43 AM

Maybe this ad will convince Ann Coulter.

fossten on August 25, 2008 at 7:43 AM

“Debra” cuts both ways. McCain’s been rising in the polls because the base thought he did well at Saddleback. I’m whiffing mavericky again….

Marcus on August 25, 2008 at 7:45 AM

Will this convince others to follow Debra’s lead? Eighteen million people voted for Hillary in the Democratic primaries. If McCain can capture 10-20% of those, this ad will be well worth it.

I think everything hinges on what Hillary has to say at the convention. She can either hand Obama full reigns, which I would expect her to do, or at a minimum, hold the spotlight on herself.

It’s gonna be interesting.

JetBoy on August 25, 2008 at 7:45 AM

What are the chances Debra gets painted as a racist?

frode on August 25, 2008 at 7:46 AM

“Debra” cuts both ways. McCain’s been rising in the polls because the base thought he did well at Saddleback. I’m whiffing mavericky again….

Marcus on August 25, 2008 at 7:45 AM

It is a fine line he has to “nuance”…then again no less fine a line than Barry faces in having his every tack right towards the center meet a how of betrayal from the KOSby Kidz and HuffPOs…..

Soros bucks can get one to the dance but they can’t take him over the finish line….all Juan McAmnesty has to do is be more centrist than Barry without enraging all his base into staying home himself.

sven10077 on August 25, 2008 at 7:47 AM

Obama chose a running mate who voted the same on the Iraq War as their foe Hillary did, and the KOSby Kidz couldn’t care less. Me either I guess – if McCain doesn’t choose Michelle Obama he’s still getting my vote.

Marcus on August 25, 2008 at 7:51 AM

Ouch! You know Hillary’s people are going to not amused at all.

LibertarianConservative on August 25, 2008 at 7:53 AM

Obama chose a running mate who voted the same on the Iraq War as their foe Hillary did, and the KOSby Kidz couldn’t care less. Me either I guess – if McCain doesn’t choose Michelle Obama he’s still getting my vote.

Marcus on August 25, 2008 at 7:51 AM

I ain’t talking about the Circus barker I mean the comment people. Wade into the fever swamp. Hillary’s PUMAs are the main wild card.

sven10077 on August 25, 2008 at 7:53 AM

McCain doesn’t need to capture that many Clintonites. If he can convince 5% to switch and demoralize 10% more into staying home his work is done. This is especially true in states like PA and OH.

Vote Sauron 08 on August 25, 2008 at 8:00 AM

If McCain has any Mavericky plans he wants to unleash he should do it now…

ninjapirate on August 25, 2008 at 8:02 AM

I certainly hope playing up to the Dem Civil War isn’t McCain’s only strategy for winning this thing.

Browncoatone on August 25, 2008 at 8:06 AM

I think the Obamessiah followers would refer to her as a blasphemer.

guitarplayer on August 25, 2008 at 8:08 AM

The image would be complete if McCain will just get an illegal hispanic woman talking in spanish about her amnesty savior bringing her access to universal health care while holding a global warming sign and claiming that Joe Biden is a good friend who she respects. Or…he can just keep pandering to Hillary loons.

Fletch54 on August 25, 2008 at 8:09 AM

I certainly hope playing up to the Dem Civil War isn’t McCain’s only strategy for winning this thing.

Indeed, the people in charge don’t seem to realize how big a pile of crap they are sitting in. They have got to reinvent themselves in the eyes of the public…

ninjapirate on August 25, 2008 at 8:10 AM

The ads will change after the convention.

In the meantime, McCain is having a little fun (look at his smile in this ad at the end) with it.

Which only seems fair since Obama tried to tar him as a racist, which personally pissed me off. Do a little research Obama, McCain has a black daughter.

ArmyAunt on August 25, 2008 at 8:16 AM

Good News: My wife (a Democrat) and I (a Republican) filled out our change of residence voter registration cards over the weekend. We are both planning on voting for McCain.

Bad News: We live in South Carolina, which isn’t exactly a battleground state.

BohicaTwentyTwo on August 25, 2008 at 8:17 AM

Classic divide and conquer. Go for the win John!!!

EyesOpen on August 25, 2008 at 8:17 AM

I certainly hope playing up to the Dem Civil War isn’t McCain’s only strategy for winning this thing.

Browncoatone on August 25, 2008 at 8:06 AM

I concur. However, if there ever was a time to play that card, it is now, during their convention. If this and bashing Obama is all he does during September and October, stick a fork in him, he’s done.

Kafir on August 25, 2008 at 8:18 AM

I don’t think he needs to go here…They are pissed at Obama already. Don’t give them a reason to re-channel their anger.

tomas on August 25, 2008 at 8:19 AM

There’s no doubt in my mind that Piano Legs and her supporters believe that McCain will be a one term President and that Obama will be off of the radar if he loses a la Gore and Kerry. Barring any other unforseen surprises coming from under the woodpile in the next four years, she believes that she’ll be unbeatable in 2012.

sbynyc on August 25, 2008 at 8:21 AM

Change you can BELIEVE in….

Beliefs you can change???

MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2008 at 8:23 AM

While Juan wasn’t my first choice, I gotta admit that his campaign is the most creative, reflexive ad machine the GOP has seen in decades (ever?).

Juan Maverick may not be internet savvy, but his team is making up for it and then some. It’s nice to see a GOP POTUS candidate show some life in a campaign.

pugwriter on August 25, 2008 at 8:23 AM

without enraging all his base into staying home himself.

I do believe that McCain’s base is larger than one guy.

MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2008 at 8:24 AM

“I don’t think he needs to go here…They are pissed at Obama already. Don’t give them a reason to re-channel their anger.” - tomas on August 25, 2008 at 8:19 AM

To the contrary : This is a wonderful time to plant/ignite the idea of simply voting for “the other guy.”

Brilliant ad…especially the part when she drops the Hillary sign to revela the McCain sign.

Lockstein13 on August 25, 2008 at 8:27 AM

Good News: My wife (a Democrat) and I (a Republican) filled out our change of residence voter registration cards over the weekend. We are both planning on voting for McCain.

Bad News: We live in South Carolina, which isn’t exactly a battleground state.

BohicaTwentyTwo on August 25, 2008 at 8:17 AM

Come to Michigan! Homes are cheap! And we need the Repub voters!

I hope you dont need a job though..

ConservativeLawStudent on August 25, 2008 at 8:29 AM

I do believe that McCain’s base is larger than one guy.

MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2008 at 8:24 AM

Indeed that said if M in Michigan and MB4 were my sole sampling I’d worry more. Barry screwed up not Juan McAmnesty, I have issues with Juan deep ones. Barry not trying to explain his stands on dustbin babies as it came out took me from “meh who cares” to looking very deeply into what little I could deduce of his history.

Barry did more to make me want McCain than McCain. Barry is doing more to drive PUMAs to McCain than McCain. The MSM overselling Barry too soon is turning people off.

They usually wait until the donks have picked a nominee to start the love-in this time they couldn’t restrain themselves and gamed the convention as well as the general election.

sven10077 on August 25, 2008 at 8:31 AM

I find it really hard to believe you can be an “avid” Hillary surporter yet choose to vote for John McCain. Whether it’s Iraq, health care or abortion rights, McCain has positions opposed to those of Hillary. Anyways, there are two months left before the election, I have a feeling that most Hillary supporters will vote Obama and that the impact will not be significant.

mycowardice on August 25, 2008 at 8:34 AM

“Debra” cuts both ways. McCain’s been rising in the polls because the base thought he did well at Saddleback. I’m whiffing mavericky again….

Remember the Reagan Democrats. Peeling off as much of your opponent’s base as possible is a no brainer. Maverick’s last few ads have been outstanding. As far as targeting a demographic goes, this one is pure gold. It isn’t negative at all, and Debra is cute, playful, charming and…she’s right.

Pablo on August 25, 2008 at 8:35 AM

argh! If McCain would go after the 60% of the country that is conservative, he would not have to deal with Clinton’s unhappy campers.

Rolldogs on August 25, 2008 at 8:42 AM

Or…he can just keep pandering to Hillary loons.

Fully half of the Dem electorate, or approximately 25% of the total electorate, are Hillary supporters. This ad is a great way to invite them to vote McCain without him having to compromise on his positions. This is McCain’s prize for the bloodbath that was the Dem primary season. This is like taking candy from a baby, and it’s going to be effective, especially against a candidate who is mostly a cipher and who the more people get to know about him, the less they like him.

Pablo on August 25, 2008 at 8:43 AM

Whether it’s Iraq, health care or abortion rights, McCain has positions opposed to those of Hillary.

I never got that either. I’ve heard Hillary supporters say they are supporting John McCain now because of “experience.” Well, Hillary wasn’t the most experienced candidate to begin with so if they really cared about that then why were the Hillary supporters to begin with? So I don’t get that either. I’m really starting to believe that people don’t look at people’s voting records, they just pick who ever they like.

Anyways, there are two months left before the election, I have a feeling that most Hillary supporters will vote Obama and that the impact will not be significant.

Agreed.

terryannonline on August 25, 2008 at 8:45 AM

I like the ad. I live in Northeastern New Jersey. I know a lot of Hillary people that said they will vote for McCain in November.
They really hate the way the Clintons were treated during the primaries by the DNC and the MSM. They even started watching Fox News!
This is serious business for the election. McCain is going to get a lot of Hillary votes and may come out winning blue states.
McCain just opened an election office around here. This is the first time a republican has done so since Reagan.

jencab on August 25, 2008 at 8:45 AM

Indeed that said if M in Michigan and MB4 were my sole sampling I’d worry more

You can add me to that list. It may not worry you too much more, but it should. In the meantime McCain is out fishing for Hillary’s girls to make up the difference. That isn’t exactly running on (conservative)strength, but then, McCain is no conservative anyway.

Fletch54 on August 25, 2008 at 8:48 AM

As long as McCain doesn’t pick Lieberman or Romney, the election is his to lose.

I love Sarah Palin as VP. She extremely charismatic, bright, a TRUE conservative and she will appeal to the lowest common denominator, in which superficial traits are very important.

thedarius on August 25, 2008 at 8:49 AM

The primary reason Rodham’s supporters will have no reservations voting for McCain is that there voting records aren’t dissimilar. Ann Coulter has established that fact in spades without rebuttal. Nobama has been revealed to be so far left that many voters, many who voted for him in the early primaries before the truth starting coming out (e.g. Black Liberation Theology; William Ayres; etc.) will easily switch to McCain. That’s why you see no bounce in the polls no matter what Nobama does now including tour Europe or nominate Sloe Joe Biden. There are no undecideds left. Only converts, and the more Debra is out in front, the more shall see the light.

sbynyc on August 25, 2008 at 8:51 AM

Anyways, there are two months left before the election, I have a feeling that most Hillary supporters will vote Obama and that the impact will not be significant.

Certainly that’s true.

It’s also not the point.

McCain hardly needs “most Hillary supporters.” Indeed, he only needs a small fraction. More specifically, a small fraction in three states where all the people have accents remarkably similar to Debra here.

And these people are hardly typical liberals and they have about zero in common with Barry The Divine.

This was a great ad. Debra’s got a fun and playful presence about her and it strikes just the right tone.

So far, McCain’s beating Barry in the ad wars like a rented mule.

Typhoon on August 25, 2008 at 8:52 AM

argh! If McCain would go after the 60% of the country that is conservative, he would not have to deal with Clinton’s unhappy campers.

John Kerry took 48.3% of the vote in 2004. Dem Senate candidates took 50.8%. This country is not 60% conservative. If it were, were wouldn’t have Senate Majority Leader Reid and Speaker Pelosi.

Pablo on August 25, 2008 at 8:55 AM

“Debra” is a good political ad. Those with the oft mentioned “buyers remorse” can exchange their vote and feel better about themselves.
Those here who worry that McCain is slipping further into the grasp of the Liberals after doing so well at Saddleback…relax. I never thought that McCain was ’suddenly Conservative’ enough. The one endorsement which matters is that he is not Obama. Let him sidle up and woo Clinton voters.
Let him shake Dem babies and kiss Dem hands…wait-I’ve got that backwards.
Don’t worry-this is “Re-create 88″, when an unimpressive H.W. Bush handily beat a weak Dukakis/Bentsen ticket…with one Quayle tied behind his back.

Doug on August 25, 2008 at 8:55 AM

If McCain has any Mavericky plans he wants to unleash he should do it now…

ninjapirate on August 25, 2008 at 8:02 AM

Friday will be a telling point when he announces his VP. If he doesn’t go for somebody that can reach out to the GOP base then McCain is toast because a liberal Republican is never going to win against an equally liberal Democrat.

It’s no fluke that Saddleback was good to McCain’s polling numbers but it appears the bitter old man is going out of his way to distance himself from the party including throwing up ideas like choosing Lieberman or a pro-murder candidate as his VP. Time for McCain to spend time building fences within the GOP instead of devoting his whole campaign to convincing Democrats that he’s one of them!

highhopes on August 25, 2008 at 8:55 AM

The primary reason Rodham’s supporters will have no reservations voting for McCain is that there voting records aren’t dissimilar

How are their voter records similar? McCain doesn’t want to raise taxas, Hillary will. McCain is pro-life, Hillary is pro-choice. Hillary didn’t support the suge, McCain did. Hillary is for mandated universal health care, McCain’s not.

terryannonline on August 25, 2008 at 8:55 AM

That isn’t exactly running on (conservative)strength, but then, McCain is no conservative anyway.

Right. It’s running on leadership and experience, which is what he has to work with.

Pablo on August 25, 2008 at 8:56 AM

The primary reason Rodham’s supporters will have no reservations voting for McCain is that there voting records aren’t dissimilar.

Now there’s a sad state of affairs. McCain is more like Hillary. It’s the new republicanism, mah friends.

Fletch54 on August 25, 2008 at 8:56 AM

Oh, and just as a by the way to all the highchair-pounders who are shocked! shocked! that McCain would dare target a message to anyone other than themselves and any concerns other than their own.

These folks McCain is going after here used to be known as Reagan Democrats.

And whoever you are and whatever names you want to call McCain, I’ll take Ronald Reagan over you.

Typhoon on August 25, 2008 at 8:59 AM

Fletch54 on August 25, 2008 at 8:56 AM

You’re damn skippy it is, and it’s a large majority of the country if the cranky conservatives will stop making the perfect the enemy of the good.

rockmom on August 25, 2008 at 9:00 AM

And I would rather have Ms. Bartosevich on our team who understand the value of leadership and experience when choosing a President. Barack Obama can have liberals like Jim Leach, whose only problem with our government is that it isn’t big enough or taking more of my money.

rockmom on August 25, 2008 at 9:03 AM

The new Republicanism, be damned. Let’s republish and redistribute The Conscience of a Conservative and start anew!

sbynyc on August 25, 2008 at 9:06 AM

Is it just me or is this the strangest political season evah? (And I’ve seen more than a few !)

stenwin77 on August 25, 2008 at 9:10 AM

BohicaTwentyTwo on August 25, 2008 at 8:17 AM

Come to Michigan! Homes are cheap! And we need the Repub voters!

I hope you dont need a job though..

ConservativeLawStudent on August 25, 2008 at 8:29 AM

Even have a house for you to buy, ready to move in..

DaveC on August 25, 2008 at 9:10 AM

The new Republicanism, be damned. Let’s republish and redistribute The Conscience of a Conservative and start anew!

sbynyc on August 25, 2008 at 9:06 AM

Oh, you do it, okay?

Myself, I realize perfection is a goal but it’s never reached. I also realize that regardless of who’s in charge, they’re human and if they get more right than they get wrong, on balance they’ve done well.

I also realize that if we elect Barry O and he enacts his naive Lefitst agenda, there’s a very real chance he’ll throw this country into a full-scale depression, from which it may not emerge in my lifetime.

So you do it, okay?

I’d rather not live out the rest of my life in poverty, so being selfish, I’ll pass.

Typhoon on August 25, 2008 at 9:11 AM

A lot of Democrats will vote McCain. It’s okay, really!

with whatever issues I have with Maverick..

I did enjoy this ad..

DaveC on August 25, 2008 at 9:13 AM

Great Ad! Go McCain!

elduende on August 25, 2008 at 9:13 AM

These folks McCain is going after here used to be known as Reagan Democrats.

And whoever you are and whatever names you want to call McCain, I’ll take Ronald Reagan over you.

Running to Clinton supporters claiming they’re the second coming of Reagan democrats is delusional and dangerous thinking. Identifying McCain to Reagan in that regard is laughable. Reagan successfully made the transition from democrat to conservative republican and convinced a share of democrats to support his conservatism. McCain is stuck on liberal republicanism and makes the attempt at every turn to be more liberal. That’s a stark night and day scenario between the two. McCain was a Reagan foot soldier who deserted conservatism when it fit his agenda.

Fletch54 on August 25, 2008 at 9:14 AM

There’s no doubt in my mind that Piano Legs and her supporters believe that McCain will be a one term President***. *** [S]he believes that she’ll be unbeatable in 2012.
sbynyc on August 25, 2008 at 8:21 AM

McCain is going to be a one termer. And Hillary will be the strongest Democrat to run in 2012. But, barring any major screwups, she’ll be facing off against Bobby Jindal, and she’ll get her rear end kicked.

Incidentally, I live in Ohio and personally know at least three Democrats who will be crossing over and voting McCain because they see Obama as too radical and dangerous (and are pissed because of Hillary). This cross-over phenomenon is real, people!

Outlander on August 25, 2008 at 9:16 AM

I’d say the country is 40% conservative, 35% liberal, and the rest just vote for the candidate who gives the most warm fuzzies.

MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2008 at 9:21 AM

I think McCain chose the perfect spokesperson to help him go after disgruntled Hillary supporters. I think it may be one of the best political ads I’ve ever seen.

And count me as another person who believes that in a close race, peeling off a small fraction of the other side’s voters could make all the difference in the world.

backwoods conservative on August 25, 2008 at 9:22 AM

You’re damn skippy it is, and it’s a large majority of the country if the cranky conservatives will stop making the perfect the enemy of the good.

I’m looking for an imperfect conservative candidate that isn’t interested in selling out the nation to become a 3rd world craphole; one that doesn’t eagerly buy into the global warming scam for the sake of liberal voters or talks out of both sides of his mouth about universal health care while simultaneously saying no tax increases as he mumbles about tax increases being negotiable. I’m looking for an imperfect conservative candidate that doesn’t give every liberal colleague withing arms length a reach around on the Senate floor. Have you seen one lately?

Fletch54 on August 25, 2008 at 9:23 AM

Good ad, particularly since most Democrats are emotion-based voters.

Maybe I’m just going mad, but, apart from hair color, Debra actually looks like a younger, more attractive Hillary: the smile, the eyes. Yes?

ParisParamus on August 25, 2008 at 9:25 AM

Have you seen one lately?

Nope. So I’m going to have to settle for NotObama who won’t fill two more SCOTUS seats with Ginsberg clones. As you know, you go to election with the candidates you have, not the candidates you might want or wish to have at a later time.

Pablo on August 25, 2008 at 9:26 AM

OK… at first I was upset at the republicans for caving to the media and giving us McCain, but over the last few weeks I have begun to see some light at the end of this long, dark tunnel. Still not happy, but less irritated than I was a couple of months ago. I am truly loving the ads that the McCain team has been putting out. I kinda feel like the guy who is stuck rooting for the Cards, but only because the Cubbies have no chance… again. Go Team!

boomsmith on August 25, 2008 at 9:40 AM

McCain hardly needs “most Hillary supporters.” Indeed, he only needs a small fraction. More specifically, a small fraction in three states where all the people have accents remarkably similar to Debra here.

And these people are hardly typical liberals and they have about zero in common with Barry The Divine.

Typhoon on August 25, 2008 at 8:52 AM

Yeah but I guess it means we have “avid” Clinton supporters that couldn’t care less about Clinton’s program. If they did, there is no way they could vote for McCain. Just like terryannonline said, those people seem to have just picked a candidate because they like them and for no other substantial reasons. If these people have zero in common with Obama, don’t tell me they were “avid” Clinton supporters or are true McCain fans. Something doesn’t add up.

As for the fraction argument, it could go both way, because it seems to me not everyone on the other side like McCain. For all you know, all Ron Paul supporters might vote in block for Obama in the elections (because the Republicans have tried to silence them).

mycowardice on August 25, 2008 at 9:43 AM

The Hillary supporters have more than two options.

They can support McCain, they can support Obama, or they can stay home.

Of the three, the last is the best for the Republicans, a Hillary supporter, even if they vote for McCain, is still likely to vote Democratic the rest of the way down the ticket.

Anything that feeds the discontent of the Hillary voter, increases the likelihood of them staying home on election day.

MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2008 at 9:46 AM

I think if McCain wins, we should remind him that a large number of us didn’t vote FOR him, but AGAINST Obama.

rgranger on August 25, 2008 at 9:55 AM

The image would be complete if McCain will just get an illegal hispanic woman talking in spanish about her amnesty savior bringing her access to universal health care while holding a global warming sign and claiming that Joe Biden is a good friend who she respects. Or…he can just keep pandering to Hillary loons.

Fletch54 on August 25, 2008 at 8:09 AM

Indeed. I think McCain is getting pretty risky here by using a former Hillary supporter as an endorser. Do they not realize that Hillary Clinton is a liberal Democrat? I understand what the McCain campaign is attempting to do, but will it alienate the conservative base?

http://thepajamapundit.com/

thePajamaPundit on August 25, 2008 at 9:59 AM

Yeah but I guess it means we have “avid” Clinton supporters that couldn’t care less about Clinton’s program. If they did, there is no way they could vote for McCain.

Lots of people simply vote for who they like. Ask most voters specifics about their candidate’s policy position and you’re going to get a lot of blank stares or misconceptions.

How else has Baracky gotten so much play?

Pablo on August 25, 2008 at 9:59 AM

The sad part of this is what is completely wrong with our system of selecting officials. None of this has anything to do with helping our country. The entire episode is an event to get McCain elected. The only thing people in Washington care about is getting elected.

If McCain were running against Hillary (His and Republican hopes), he would say how much he isn’t like Hillary at all. Now we are supposed to believe that McCain is just like Hillary so all McCain supporters should support Hillary if Hillary was running.

It’s just sad. And it is the reason that I’m not entirely excited about spreading ‘democracy’ the way America does it. It is for people to get elected. . . it isn’t to select the best people for the job. McCain is a consummate politician. He doesn’t believe anything or have conviction. He will tell you what you want to hear and nothing else.

ThackerAgency on August 25, 2008 at 10:00 AM

Good ad, good tone.

Aeschylus on August 25, 2008 at 10:01 AM

I think if McCain wins, we should remind him that a large number of us didn’t vote FOR him, but AGAINST Obama.

rgranger on August 25, 2008 at 9:55 AM

This is the only reason he’ll win (if he wins), and he doesn’t care. His only campaign promise is that he’s not Obama. We’ll see if it will work. . . but it isn’t a process that selects the best and brightest to lead this country. Our democracy is a sham.

ThackerAgency on August 25, 2008 at 10:02 AM

I certainly hope playing up to the Dem Civil War isn’t McCain’s only strategy for winning this thing.
Browncoatone on August 25, 2008 at 8:06 AM

I would certainly hope that a commenter who is capable of reading the news and has observed elections in the past and should be smart enough to figure things out for themselves wouldn’t think that a presidential candidate’s only strategy consists solely of the latest tv commercial that they viewed from that candidate.

wise_man on August 25, 2008 at 10:13 AM

His only campaign promise is that he’s not Obama.
ThackerAgency on August 25, 2008 at 10:02 AM

Well, I spoke too soon. And for some, the “and should be smart enough to figure things out for themselves” doesn’t apply to everyone. Too bad. Because that’s obviously not his only campaign promise or issue.

wise_man on August 25, 2008 at 10:15 AM

wise_man on August 25, 2008 at 10:13 AM

His only strategy is that he’s not the other guy. It would have been his strategy if he were running against Hillary and it’s his strategy now running against Obama. Obama’s strategy is that he’s not Bush. It’s a sad state of affairs for the world’s leader in ‘democracy’.

ThackerAgency on August 25, 2008 at 10:16 AM

Darn, this is a gift that keeps on giving.

El Coqui on August 25, 2008 at 10:17 AM

I know tons of Dems who were voting for Hillary ONLY because she was a she.

They didn’t particularly care for universal healthcare, but she was a…well….a she.

Remember, Hillary laid out the case early for an Iraq attack but only became anti-Irag-war after the success of MoveOn and the Obamatrons.

Hilbots behind the scenes call Obama supporters a cult.

ex-Democrat on August 25, 2008 at 10:17 AM

If he claims to be a wise man, then he surely does not know

ThackerAgency on August 25, 2008 at 10:18 AM

His only strategy is that he’s not the other guy.
ThackerAgency on August 25, 2008 at 10:16 AM

Yeah, you keep saying that, and it still isn’t the truth. This is your opinion, based on no fact whatsoever. When McCain rain in the primary, he never said ‘vote for me, I’m not Obama.’

So what have you got to gain by spreading this same BS again and again? Besides making yourself look like a complete fool?

wise_man on August 25, 2008 at 10:25 AM

ThackerAgency on August 25, 2008 at 10:18 AM

Ah, the whole, make fun of my name bit again.

So are you going to do this repeatedly?

wise_man on August 25, 2008 at 10:26 AM

The sad part of this is what is completely wrong with our system of selecting officials. None of this has anything to do with helping our country. The entire episode is an event to get McCain elected. The only thing people in Washington care about is getting elected.

ThackerAgency on August 25, 2008 at 10:00 AM

Amen to that! I am so disappointed that people are getting excited about ads like that one or the negative ads that we will be forced to watch for the next two months. Our system will soon look like (if it’s not already the case) a real circus where the objective is not to sell a program to voters but to create the coolest ads and find the best gotcha moments to get the voters to give you their votes. It’s really depressing.

Someone in this thread said he/she would be happy if Hillary voters stayed home. Are you really happy to know that parts of the electorate is just tuning out of the democratic process? Seriously, this is really sad.

mycowardice on August 25, 2008 at 10:29 AM

Hilbots behind the scenes call Obama supporters a cult.
ex-Democrat on August 25, 2008 at 10:17 AM

While others on conservative blogs claim that McCain’s only campaign position is that he’s not Barack Obama. So there’s crazy people on the left and the left, it would seem.

wise_man on August 25, 2008 at 10:29 AM

Y’all making fun of Hillary voters need to rethink your rhetoric. Die-hard democrats who had to choose between the shiny new object and the better leader chose wisely when backing Hillary. She is smarter and more experienced…they saw Barrack for the empty suit that he is. I’d be proud to have Hillary democrats standing beside me supporting McCain. Let’s go get them!

AND – PAGING MR MCCAIN – YOU HAVE TO RUN POSITIVE ADS ALSO…AND SOOOOOOOON, PLEASE. (Unless his strategy is to bair Bozo’s camp to go full tilt negative, then start running his positive ads…)

JustTruth101 on August 25, 2008 at 10:32 AM

“If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him”–Sun Tzu

BWAAAAA!

sabbott on August 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM

“If your opponent is quick to anger, seek to irritate him”–Sun Tzu

tru dat brudda

JustTruth101 on August 25, 2008 at 10:42 AM

AND – PAGING MR MCCAIN – YOU HAVE TO RUN POSITIVE ADS ALSO…AND SOOOOOOOON, PLEASE.
JustTruth101 on August 25, 2008 at 10:32 AM

McCain doesn’t just run negative ads. The ads first go on youtube, and then get run on blogs. If the blogs only report on the negative ads, then you might get the impression that he only has negative ads. This ad might make it on TV, somewhere, at some time. His positive ads are running right now. On television. And people who don’t go to political blogs every day don’t see all the ads that are listed like this one. The see the positive ones, where McCain makes the case for himself. And these ads have played on such programs as the olympics. FYI.

wise_man on August 25, 2008 at 10:47 AM

Aww, ‘thackeragency’ quit? Too bad. I guess he’s off to the other pages where he’s going to try to convince others that McCain’s only plan to be president is that he’s not obama.

wise_man on August 25, 2008 at 11:17 AM

Some of my neighbors are PUMAs and they all plan to vote for Captain Amnesty too.

Its a mad world.

dogsoldier on August 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM

This is the only reason he’ll win (if he wins), and he doesn’t care. His only campaign promise is that he’s not Obama. We’ll see if it will work. . . but it isn’t a process that selects the best and brightest to lead this country. Our democracy is a sham.

ThackerAgency on August 25, 2008 at 10:02 AM

You are skating on pretty thin ice, Thacker. You are close to inferring that there is a better way of selecting “the best and the brightest.” That is a slippery slope to the end of democracy and the beginning of fascism or some other form of authoritarianism.

Yes, it is true that our system is imperfect. For most voters, elections are popularity contests. Many or most voters do not know the issues or how their candidate stands on them. I find this sad, but then what is the alternative?

There is no alternative that does not lead to your erosion of rights as an American. If you start taking our rights away, then the idea or dream of America will cease to exist.

DCGamer on August 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM

The first thing you learn about running for office is if you want someone’s vote, you need to ask for it.

texette on August 25, 2008 at 11:40 AM

I don’t know what some people are kvetching about all the time, this is a superb ad to run the opening week of the DNC convention no?

This woman is cute, she is upbeat, the ad is inviting to Democrats & Independents, there is some humor – pls stop being such grouches all the time. McCain this, McCain that, McCain wah wah wah.. lol Any way I look at this, McCain is light years better for your President than Obama. People call themselves in America one issue voters? Well this is one issue that should trump all your other one issues!

So please make more cheery soccermom type lady ads holding up McCain signs, and run them during commercial breaks for DNC coverage, I love it.

saus on August 25, 2008 at 11:52 AM

I’d say the country is 40% conservative, 35% liberal, and the rest just vote for the candidate who gives the most warm fuzzies.

MarkTheGreat on August 25, 2008 at 9:21 AM

I think you are a bit to optimistic, especially given the voting record of these past few years.

EconomicPirate on August 25, 2008 at 12:50 PM

I want Hillary to come out on stage, say something flowery and leading, then say, “And that’s why I’m voting for McCain.” and walk off.

- The Cat

P.S. One can dream.

MirCat on August 25, 2008 at 1:06 PM

To coin a phrase:

“You go, girl!”

Also, let’s hope Maverick continues going for it.

Wildcatter1980 on August 25, 2008 at 1:16 PM

What are the chances Debra gets painted as a racist?

frode on August 25, 2008 at 7:46 AM

I’d say there isn’t a chance….It’s a certainty

But, using an apostate Hill-puma in a Mav ad–Priceless

RocketmanBob on August 25, 2008 at 1:20 PM

So I’m going to have to settle for NotObama who won’t fill two more SCOTUS seats with Ginsberg clones.

Uhm…McCain voted to confirm Ginsburg. Talk is cheap and 25 years of liberal actions speak louder than 6 months of weak campaign rhetoric.

Fletch54 on August 25, 2008 at 1:32 PM

argh! If McCain would go after the 60% of the country that is conservative, he would not have to deal with Clinton’s unhappy campers.

I doubt anyone but McCain thinks he’ll get a substantial number of Hillarites to vote for him. The RNC strategy with these ads is probably to get more disgruntled PUMAs than disgruntled conservatives to stay home.

That being said, my proselytizing atheist, upper-middle-class, middle-aged, socialist, animal-worshipping, white female manager would have voted for Her Thighness, but has opted for McCain…

-TMK

TMK on August 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM

What a hoot!

Dawgontybee on August 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Talk is cheap and 25 years of liberal actions
Fletch54 on August 25, 2008 at 1:32 PM

LOL. Keep repeating that line that McCain is a liberal. Youre doing aheckofajoerb, Fletch54. Let’s inject a wee bit of truth into this claim that McCain is a big, bad, skerry liberal.

For those who see no difference between McCain and the two Democrats, this serves as a reminder that while McCain drifts to the middle on some issues, a large chasm exists between the nominees that will face off in November.

wise_man on August 25, 2008 at 1:56 PM

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