Laura Ingraham: Palin for VP?
posted at 2:18 pm on August 25, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Actually, Greta’s more excited about the idea than Ingraham is. I’m continually amazed by how much support there is for Palin, basically sight unseen, here in the comments at HA even though putting her on the ticket would obliterate the GOP’s strongest line of attack against The One. She’s personally appealing, represents a physical manifestation of Change, and is alarmingly young and inexperienced for such a momentous job. Remind you of anyone you know? Nor am I sold on Greta’s argument that women voters would flock to her. Conservatives love Palin because she’s down to earth to an extent that’s almost too good to be true, as if she’s a soccer mom who in her spare time decided to become governor. Hillary nuts worship Hillary for being the smart, opinionated career woman who refused to let gender expectations thwart her ambition who also somehow managed to raise a daughter. Both stereotypes are unfair — they’re two sides of the same coin — but the perceived difference in emphasis might be enough to turn Clintonites off to someone like Palin who doesn’t fit the traditional image of a feminist as well as Her Majesty does. Combine that with the scary Lifetime poll data that a woman on the ticket could actually cost McCain points and I don’t see the argument for her over, say, Romney.
Still, not the worst VP idea I’ve heard today. Exit question: I’m pretty sure I’ve asked this before, but I’ll ask again. Why would Palin make a better pick than, say, Huckabee? She’ll pull a few more women than him, probably, but he’ll pull more working-class Democrats and independents with his populist rhetoric. He’s a better public speaker than she is, it’s safe to say, and he’ll lock up the evangelicals sufficiently that McCain will have more room to pander to centrists (and no, you don’t have to remind me in the comments that plenty of evangelicals dislike him). Make the case, Palinites.
Update: The case is made!
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Good Lord, get a grip. Did Mommy not spend enough time with you?
upinak on August 25, 2008 at 3:26 PM
I reset my McCain VP Poll if some want to retake it
William Amos on August 25, 2008 at 3:26 PM
John Bolton for Sec of Defense!
upinak on August 25, 2008 at 3:27 PM
But wasn’t the reason McCain was against the tax cuts is because there was no corresponding reduction in spending? Mitch has been promoting that here in Indiana. He has outsourced/privatized and streamlined state services to cut costs.
I really like the guy, but I think he has set his sights for higher office when he is done being gov. Maybe he’ll go after Evan Bayh? That would rock.
There was a time when Evan Bayh was the Barack Obama of Indiana. Listen to our local radio host discuss Evan Bayh.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2008 at 3:27 PM
I hope he picks Mitt Romney as VP. IF he picks Palin, he needs to introduce her as someone who is part of the “Drill Here. Drill Now” philosophy. Then he needs to take that opportunity to tell us he’s for drilling in ANWR. Make NO MENTION of the fact that she’s a woman. That would be obvious and no point in mentioning it.
Oink on August 25, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Darn forgot to Add Petraeus and Colin Powell who were both mentioned this week.
William Amos on August 25, 2008 at 3:28 PM
<– slaps forehead!
That’s a great idea, I don’t know why I didn’t think of that! The only down side would be that Thompson would last only about 15 more years.
Geministorm on August 25, 2008 at 3:28 PM
I say he just pick Laura.
roninacreage on August 25, 2008 at 3:31 PM
The Republican party chose, and is still choosing, to back McCain from the standpoint that he could actually beat the Democrats. This assessment wasn’t/isn’t based upon any grand policy idea or philosophy of McCain other than the fact that he was a POW in Vietnam and talks a big game on national defense. So, really, if he were to choose Palin, then it would only be consistent with the rest of the decision-making process used to pick McCain in the first place.
I’m tired of politics based solely upon identity and pragmatism. Vote for what’s right, people, for if you don’t, you’ll still get what you deserve: in this case, a President who cares more about looking good than doing right.
Send_Me on August 25, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Marilyn Musgrave,
Colorado laughingstock. Perhaps one reason Ken Salazar beat Pete Coors in 2004.
gotta go, but if you are interested, there’s lots of stuff out there
funky chicken on August 25, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Thanks!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2008 at 3:33 PM
I’m all for Palin, but there’s also Carly Fiorina. My pick.
Griz on August 25, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Others are talking about her boobs and being hot, and I mention her kids and I catch hell. Yer fancy pants, all o’ yas.
Akzed on August 25, 2008 at 3:33 PM
OK. Thanks! I had no idea. I was just going on ACU ratings. Scratch (that) MM off the list.
What about the others I listed?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2008 at 3:34 PM
A lot of female Hillary supporters would identify with Palin. The woman has worked her butt off and earned her keep.
I also think Palin would clean the floor with Biden, for the same reason that she’d blow him off a poker or pool table. He’s a guy, and all guys are smitten with lovely women. Even happily married men. Even happily married men with pretty wives. Men are pigs when it comes to hotties, and those who say they aren’t are either lying or gay. While she’s dissecting moonbat energy policy, he will be wondering what she looks like nekkid.
GulfCoastBamaFan on August 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM
The case for Huckabee is obvious. He was the only candidate on both the republican and democrat sides with the most executive experience running a state government. He was reelected twice as governor in a democrat state. He only left the position due to term limits. He still has an approval rating of 65%. He brought in 48% of the african american vote. He appeals to blue collar workers. He can out debate Biden. He can inspire the country to get behind McCain with his great communication skills.
texasconserv on August 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Fancy pants? What is that? Are we going back to the 1970’s? If you want the 70’s then vote for Obama… which I am sure you already are.
upinak on August 25, 2008 at 3:36 PM
I’m totally jazzed I was able to post on Hot Air! I’ve been loving this blog.
Must say I AM one of those disaffected Hillary Dems. I voted in the Michigan Primary (ugh. don’t get me started on that) and have been all-Dem and pro-Hillary my entire (23-year old) life.
But I have to say, I adore Gov. Palin. She’s got a great stance on the issues, can offer credence on domestic drilling (which is an issue growing in the electorate), and would completely suck the air from the Democrats’ balloon.
Obama-cans don’t even know how to respond to Gov. Palin as VP. They’re rabid and ready with an arsenal of attacks on people like Romney and especially Huckabee, but they cannot say one bad thing about Gov. Palin aside from “Do you REALLY want 5 more years of Bush?” That argument don’t hunt.
If McCain picks Palin, I will honest-to-God go out and actively door-to-door for McCain. She will appeal to the rust-belt like no other, unlike Coastal “I love the Credit Card Industry!” Joe Biden.
The only drawback is if she’s drawn into a foreign policy debate with Biden. The netroots are salivating over his “experience” in this arena. But Palin could easily and effectively undercut it with “I prefer to talk domestic policy, and leave foreign policy to our next president. You know, the party where foreign policy credentials are being shown at the TOP of the ticket?”
Palin would rock the Domestic Debate, and leave Biden in the cold.
Just my two cents. Thanks for letting me register!
lansing quaker on August 25, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Great point.
The problem is that the only reason why there’s even any buzz about her is because of gender. Were she a man, she wouldn’t even be on the short list given her diametrically different stand on drilling than McCain.
highhopes on August 25, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Carly Fiorina is a liberal who just realizes that raising taxes and beating up on business is silly. Also, she was kicked out of HP for screwing things up towards the end of her tenure. Not a good choice. She can be in the cabinet alogn with Meg Whittman, John Bolton, and all the other people who have had their names floated and who are not going to be picked here in the real world. Not in this election or in any future election. I like them all and I’m glad they’re republicans. But they will not be the VP.
D0WNT0WN on August 25, 2008 at 3:37 PM
+1
A poll would be fine, too
pseudonominus on August 25, 2008 at 3:38 PM
The nature of that experience turned out to be what doomed his campaign.
Slublog on August 25, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Oh yeah, me and Hussein we go way back.
Akzed on August 25, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Oh, and upinak, calm down. We like Sarah, and we like you. But we don’t like affirmative action, and there are at least 10 men who are more qualified for the job than she is this time around.
She has a long future ahead of her.
see ya later.
funky chicken on August 25, 2008 at 3:38 PM
… I’m totally a n00b. Did my comment post? :(
lansing quaker on August 25, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Yeah upinak, calm down.
Akzed on August 25, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Spot on, Slu.
Huck is too polarizing on the GOP side. Like I said previously, Huck is the GOP PUMA.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2008 at 3:40 PM
No worries, Akzed is a bigoted idiot. No more, no less.
upinak on August 25, 2008 at 3:41 PM
I think it was also the arrogant appeal and his ramming religon down people’s throat approach.
upinak on August 25, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Whatever happened to John Engler former Gov. of Michigan…3 terms, very popular, successful, Catholic, now the President of the National Association of Manufacturers. He can talk jobs, especially in Ohio and Michigan.
Does anyone have any thoughts on him?
joepub on August 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM
The strongest case I can make: if you stripped away her gender and just put in her accomplishments (except being Miss Alaska)you would come up with a portfolio close or equal to Bobby Jindal, another individual floated as a possible veep. As for experience, here’s from her website:
“Since taking office, her top priorities have been resource development, education and workforce development, public health and safety, and transportation and infrastructure development.
Under her leadership, Alaska invested $5 billion in state savings, overhauled education funding, and implemented the Senior Benefits Program that provides support for low-income older Alaskans. She created Alaska’s Petroleum Systems Integrity Office to provide oversight and maintenance of oil and gas equipment, facilities and infrastructure, and the Climate Change Subcabinet to prepare a climate change strategy for Alaska.
During her first legislative session, Governor Palin’s administration passed two major pieces of legislation – an overhaul of the state’s ethics laws and a competitive process to construct a gas pipeline.
Governor Palin is chair of the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission, a multi-state government agency that promotes the conservation and efficient recovery of domestic oil and natural gas resources while protecting health, safety and the environment. She was recently named chair of the National Governors Association (NGA) Natural Resources Committee, which is charged with pursuing legislation to ensure state needs are considered as federal policy is formulated in the areas of agriculture, energy, environmental protection and natural resource management. Prior to being named to this position, she served as co-chair of this committee.”
Everyone should make up their own mind. I certainly don’t see anything here that should take her out of consideration.
itsspideyman on August 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM
When has honest family been an attack point?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Never, that’s one of the bigger reasons I favor her.
I was more talking about Dems possibly picking up the “she should be raising her family, not campaigning” line. Of course, now that I’ve said it, it sounds really far-fetched, especially for lefties.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 25, 2008 at 3:45 PM
Fun little side poll. McCain appointments he could make
William Amos on August 25, 2008 at 3:45 PM
I want the best available candidate for VP. If that happens to be a man, fine. Or if a woman, fine. Sarah Palin is interesting and I like her based on what I know about her but it’s true… if she were a guy she would not be under consideration. Not enough experience. Yet.
We will have a woman president someday and it’ll be someone who has earned it based on merit not demographics. As it should be.
Gilda on August 25, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Current poll results
Who should McCain’s VP be ?
Sara Palin (13) 52%
Mitt Romney (9) 36%
Fred Thompson (1) 4%
John Kaisch (1) 4%
Duncan Hunter (1) 4%
William Amos on August 25, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Wow Bolton wasn’t voted on?
upinak on August 25, 2008 at 3:53 PM
I would hold my nose and vote for a ticket with Mitt on it, but in a campaign that seems to be all about contrasts, Sarah Palin just doesn’t look like other vice presidential nominees. I understand how Romney supporters might need to be vindicated by having him as veep, but if McCain picks Mitt and loses, how will we continue to blame McCain for the demise of the conservative movement? Besides, I can see attack dog biden chewing up Mitt Romney, but will that approach work with “a girl”? I hope that doesn’t sound too sexist, but I just think it’s the reality. As for the job being “momentous”, I’ve often wondered if GWB would have served us better by picking a v.p. that was more of a rising star that we could build on as a party.
myamphibian on August 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Brilliant argument. Wow us some more.
Akzed on August 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM
I’m glad you see the point I was making. If the ‘rats want to attack someone for having a family, the counter argument is to hold up a mirror. Of course, a lot of Dumbocrats are in favor of babykillin’ so that’s not much of an issue.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2008 at 3:57 PM
And so she says, “The Aristocrats. Tada!”
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2008 at 3:58 PM
If Obama were informed and consistent, his lack of experience wouldn’t be a big deal. Palin is informed and consistent, therefore her “inexperience” isn’t so menacing.
We can overdo the experience thing. Lincoln was one of our finest presidents, but his pre-POTUS experience certainly didn’t prepare him for the hell he had to go through while in office.
Certainly Palin is prepared to handle veep status for four years (eight?) years and gain that coveted, though possibly overrated) experience while there.
Yeah…I know Juan is old but I figure he’ll finish his term(s).
pugwriter on August 25, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Don’t be ridiculous. You disqualify her because of her gender, not because she has kids. I’m sure her husband is perfectly able to pick up the slack.
Try another tack as to why she’s not the right choice.
SouthernDem on August 25, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Nope, sorry. There is a three week trail period where only other noobs can see each other’s comments.
carbon_footprint on August 25, 2008 at 4:03 PM
I admit, sometimes my comments will have to be taken with a grain of salt… walking in the AZ heat does not do much for the brain processors. My profuse apologies.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 25, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Ah. It’s OK! Welcome.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Troll comes to mind.
have a nice one!
upinak on August 25, 2008 at 4:06 PM
… I’m totally a n00b. Did my comment post? :(
lansing quaker on August 25, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Nope, sorry. There is a three week trail period where only other noobs can see each other’s comments.
carbon_footprint on August 25, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Help! Help! I’m only seeing noobs!
itsspideyman on August 25, 2008 at 4:06 PM
You can send up some global warming ANYTIME!
Now would be good!
upinak on August 25, 2008 at 4:07 PM
From Army of Darkness: “Well hello Mr. Fancy Pants!”
Mr_Magoo on August 25, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Is it that they really are, or is it that they are better at making a good impression?
Lawrence on August 25, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Would gladly, but it’s Napolitano-tainted. I wouldn’t want to do that to Alaska.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 25, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Life stories are nice sound bites for filling dead time during Olympic coverage but females that identify with Hillary and support her agenda really don’t have a whole lot in common with unknown conservative female politicians. It’s illogical to think that simply putting any old female on the GOP ticket is going to result in droves of angry hens jumping the Dem ship after decades of identifying that party with the feminist movement.
highhopes on August 25, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Yeah, but if you could, how many illegals would be needed to move global warming to Alaska?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2008 at 4:16 PM
A couple of months ago I was at a dinner with some die-hard Dems (you know, the kind that thinks everyone around the table must be a liberal too)and Palin’s was the only Republican name that came up when discussing McCain’s choices. Although they quickly shot it down (not enough experience–LOL)I took it to mean that even Dems understand that she could electrify the Repubs in the same way that Obama does, or did anyway.
Does anyone know who the Dems are most afraid of, especially now that we’ve been gifted with Plugs? I’m sending him some curry-flavored doughnuts just to say congrats, by the way.
Fortunata on August 25, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Could be. And they might also vote for the guy who threw Hillary to the curb and calls them all “Sweetie.”
wise_man on August 25, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Romney is a savvy politician and I don’t think him being VP is going to help or hurt McCain that much. I don’t think Palin would help McCain any more than Liebermman. But a lot of people would vote for anyone female regardless of party, platform, or experience. But you might get someone like Sebelius or Pelosi, ugh.
I’d almost rather have Hillary and McCain’s VP. We know what she can do with respect to her role as second VP after Gore in the Bill Clinton administration. She couldn’t accomplish anything then, and probably wouldn’t now.
That was my wife’s idea, anyway, is that McCain should pick Hillary Clinton as his VP.
Lawrence on August 25, 2008 at 4:18 PM
I hate curry. It gives me indigestion.
Bobby Jindal sounds like nice guy, though.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2008 at 4:18 PM
lansing quaker at 3:37PM
You said you were a Hillary supporter. One of the things that makes Palin so attractive as a candidate is her pro life position. But if you supported Hillary, who was so strongly pro choice, is Palin’s pro life position a problem for you? Would it be for other women who supported Hillary and don’t support Obama?
Rose on August 25, 2008 at 4:19 PM
LOL welcome!
carbon_footprint on August 25, 2008 at 4:20 PM
I am as conservative as you can be (and a female) and I say Mitt. He brings the smarts, business sense, maturity, etc. I am all for a woman or a black or anybody else but not just because of those facts. You have to bring something else to the table besides your gender, race, etc. PLEASE!
greenacres on August 25, 2008 at 4:20 PM
I don’t think they’d make it past Vegas. If by some miracle some did, the rain in Oregon would stop the rest.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on August 25, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Just think of the visual..
“Attack Dog” Joe Biden towering over Palin during the debate and doing what he does best….unjustly tearing people down. Would rile the hell out of Hillary supporters (and all women in general).
Would they really want to start going after another woman in the same election year? Because they still maintain to this day that they never went after Hillary.
Plus the media could maybe have a mea culpa and start hitting Obama if they do go after Palin.
Butters on August 25, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Can she debate? I don’t care how pretty or smart you are, if you look like an idiot in a debate (remember Dan Quayle?). Help me out, anybody… can she deliver under pressure? Can she outwit that dimwit Biden (as d-u-m-m as Biden is, he can blow hard in a debate)?
lionheart on August 25, 2008 at 4:22 PM
This. Thank you!
That’s the point I’m always trying to make, and it seems to fall on deaf ears. We’re not just a party, we’re a movement (or at least, we should be). Bush left us without a natural, experienced successor, and what we got was the free-for-all debacle of an overpopulated primary season that gave us McCain! It is the nominee’s duty, in my opinion, to try to choose someone who can carry the party’s torch when the time comes. It is okay to choose an inexperienced VP for this reason, because the pres can mentor him or her and he or she will be more ready in 4-8 years to fight off a serious Dem challenge. In that case, a rising star is a much better choice for the sake of the party’s future hopes. Someone like Romney has already proven he doesn’t cut it in the POTUS race and is unlikely to be able to beat a vengeful Hillary in 2012 or 2016.
Besides that, how cool would it be if Hillary had to face off against a Republican female incumbent VP? It would force the country to choose between two very different kinds of “strong women” and decide where our values truly lie.
aero on August 25, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Comparing 1860’s America to 2008 isn’t exactly comparing apples to apples. Different time, different challenges, different context. The skills that Lincoln needed as the Civil War broke out are completely different than what is needed today. Foreign policy, for example, wasn’t all that cumbersome for Lincoln because the US wasn’t even close to being one of the key nation states of the world. What little foreign policy there was was primarily concerned with trade.
More relevant examples of relatively inexperienced politicians dealing with crisis would be JFK dealing with the Cuban Missile Crisis or GWB dealing with the 9/11/01 atrocities.
highhopes on August 25, 2008 at 4:23 PM
Learn how to spell peoples names..
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 4:24 PM
I’ll tell you why she would be a good pick – because at some point in her debate with Biden, he will invariably take a condescending tone towards her and probably call her “Dear” or “Hon” or something else patronizing like that, and piss off every single woman watching. Biden won’t be able to help himself.
Dudley Smith on August 25, 2008 at 4:24 PM
Learn how to use apostrophes appropriately.
; P
carbon_footprint on August 25, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Does she want to victim or the battered wife?
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 4:28 PM
“Yas fancy pants, all o’ yas,” -Giovanni Gasparo, Millers Crossing.
Akzed on August 25, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Dudley Smith
I agree. I don’t see “working class hero” when I look at Biden, only “pompous old fart” {especially if he actually eats one of my doughnuts).
Fortunata on August 25, 2008 at 4:30 PM
Very well said and Thank you!
I hope the Palin buzz continues, she would change the race completely.
myamphibian on August 25, 2008 at 4:30 PM
Yes. She defeated an incumbent governor and a second challenger……in the primary! Google “palintology” to find the site that has the debate audio/video.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2008 at 4:30 PM
Only mistake I caught was I call Palin “Sara Palin” instead of “Sarah Palin”
I dated a Sara so sue me use to writing the name that way.
William Amos on August 25, 2008 at 4:30 PM
I admit to not knowing engrish!(I went to summer school 4 years in a rows for my horrible grammar! >:D
At least I usually can spell names.. he spelled it “Sara” Palin and Charlie “Chris”
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 4:30 PM
Charlie “Chris” ?
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 4:31 PM
“What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.” Ecclesiastes 1:9
pugwriter on August 25, 2008 at 4:31 PM
I disagree with you that the role of the VP is to be on deck for the next presidential cycle. It rarely works as proven by Gore, Nixon, and Mondale’s failed runs for office (two of them right after 8 years in the #2 job). GHWB is the exception not the rule when it comes to the electorate willing to leave the same party in place after eight years.
Besides, a GWB VP would be virtually unelectable in 2008. I’d also argue that this admistration has one of the best POTUS/VP relationship of recent times and have gotten a lot more accomplished working as a team than Clinton ever got done with Gore as a potential rival for Hillary and a presumptive candidate for 2000. VP Cheney made it clear from the beginning that he would not be running for higher office and that has worked well for the nation.
Where I will agree with you is that GWB should have probably done more to play the king maker and set somebody up for the nomination instead of the free-for-all that had all the acceptable candidates bleed off conservative votes to the point a bitter liberal was able to slither to the top of the GOP ticket.
highhopes on August 25, 2008 at 4:33 PM
BTW, no Rudy in the poll so i didn’t vote.
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 4:35 PM
I vote for McCain whoever he picks.
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 4:35 PM
I have not read all the comments, but I am not sold on Palin. I really do not feel like I know enough about her. I am concerned that she has too little experience for this position. And I am also concerned about the problems in Alaska right now. I heard that she is under investigation right now in fact. Even if that turns out to be no big deal, it might not be a good idea to put someone under investigation on the ticket. I also read she supported a windfalls tax on oil companies, and that concerns me. I think it inhibits drilling.
She is very attractive and has a high approval rating in her state. Those are definit pluses.
I don’t think feminists will flock to her, she is too conservative for them.
I can think of worse people McCain can pick, but I honestly do not know if she is the best choice.
Terrye on August 25, 2008 at 4:37 PM
No John Thune or Rudy on that list..
Why would Bolton be on that list?
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 4:38 PM
As far as I’m concerned Palin can be president next Friday. I’m happier with her actions so far than our sitting duck.
YES!!! The wrong pick will sink McCain. He needs someone that will pacify the base while not alienating the independents and blue dog democrats.
Now there are a couple reasons NOT to have Palin on the ticket:
1. Clinton supporters will not vote for her because she is a Republican. Period. Being Republican voids your identity politics bonus points. She could be a black, pro-choice lesbian and they wouldn’t vote for her. (And, as a side note the sooner the “Maverick” learns that no matter how much he kisses up to the greens and hispanics it ain’t gonna do any good cuz he’s a Republican the better!)
2. She’s not ready. Just because the Dems foolishly put up a pair of unqualified candidates doesn’t mean the Republicans should too. Give her a couple years ripen.
3. We need her in Alaska. Yanking the gal over to the VP slot so she can run around doing make work and soothing the PC crowd isn’t going to get her more experience but it will leave Alaska without her. Maybe Alaska would find a good replacement for her…then again maybe not.
If you want to attempt a shot at identity politics without compromising to much on conservative values or leadership experience I suggest Michael Steele.
He won’t get the ‘black vote’ because he’s a Republican, but he’d go a long way to combating the “old white guy” party image.
Browncoatone on August 25, 2008 at 4:38 PM
Love you CH.
(in a non-homosexual kind of way)
((Not that there is anything wrong with that))
carbon_footprint on August 25, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Duncan Hunter? come on.. get serious..
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 4:40 PM
**nobody look**
((man hug)) >:D
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 4:42 PM
Hmmm…just seen Cavuto ask a defecting Hillary supporter (or delegate? called Ruccio?) if McCain’s picking a woman would appeal to her and other Hillary supporters, and she answered an unequivocal “yes”, as well as mentioning McCain’s promise to appoint more women to cabinet position.
I wonder how much Palin’s pro-life postion is a dealbreaker for what I assume are mostly pro-choice ex-Hillary supporters?
Fortunata on August 25, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Add Quayle to the list. He would not have won if he had had the chance to run as incumbent VP, either. But your comment actually supports my argument. Those guys were all weenies chosen for their relative inoffensiveness and their inability to outshine their running mates. If a POTUS candidate chose a strong, able, interesting running mate –a potential movement leader — for the sake of the party’s future, and then allowed that person to do and say meaningful things while in office, we would all be better served in the long run.
Note the trend, though. Boring, pasty, wimpy, moderate, inoffensive, predictable white guys. I’m tired of white bread VP choices. Whether we want to or not, we always end up running them as our default candidates when the president they serve under finishes his run. C’mon, McCain! Give us someone we can get energized about for a change!
aero on August 25, 2008 at 4:44 PM
I hope you two observed the man rule of how many ever seconds are allowed for that (((man hug.)))
-Manrule!
wise_man on August 25, 2008 at 4:45 PM
1-2 two pats on the back in and out no funny business. :}
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 4:48 PM
I was a Fred supporter. Although I’m not enthusiastic about McCain, I will have no problem voting for him and whoever his running mate is. Despite his weaknesses (particularly on immigration as well as his naive willingness to side with Democrats to the detriment of the party and country), McCain is at his core a man of integrity who truly does strive to “put country first.” I think he would wage a successful war on terrorism, would assemble an extremely good cabinet and appoint sound judges.
I have come around to supporting Palin for VP. I do not think that the experience factor is paramount or insurmountable. As others have pointed out, it makes sense that the VP pick might be a “fresh face” from outside the Beltway. Her relative youth would also nicely accentuate how “upside down” the Obama-Biden ticket is with Joe on the ticket. (Thank goodness they chose Biden!)
Although I am a woman who has worked in a male-”dominated” field (science), I have always opposed affirmative action… but this choice is about politics, not hiring. I think there are plusses to having a ticket that includes a woman. It would be an historic ticket (for our party) and might help persuade some swing voters who desperately want to *prove* how open-minded they are to vote for a McCain ticket instead of The One.
What about other Governors? Of the ones I’ve reviewed, Palin rose to the top, particularly in the past month as energy became such a strong issue for the Republicans. To me, the four with the most stylistic advantages (such as their presentation skills) are Palin, Jindal, Romney, and Huckabee (personally Huckabee reminds me of a game show host, but I acknowledge that he is generally credited with being an engaging speaker). Given McCain’s weakness in stump speeches, I think style is an important factor in the campaign.
Romney and Huckabee both bring negatives from the primary. I like Romney well enough, but he really is vulnerable to the class-warfare attacks by the Dems that might influence swing voters. Also, it damages the party every time we have to hear about how some evangelicals won’t vote for a Mormon. Let’s just not go there.
Huckabee strikes me as a weak politician from a weak state who mostly trades on his religious views. Unlike Huckabee, Palin strikes me as a good governor (so far) from an important state (because of energy) with conservative political values who is not bent on dragging her personal religious views into everything.
I *really* like what I’ve seen of Jindal (except for his views on teaching creationism in a science classroom — very disappointing). He is an outstanding speaker and seems to be cut in the Reagan mold. And, I would pay big money to see Jindal on the same stage as Biden! However, I think oil is the winning domestic policy issue this election year, so Palin would be a persuasive voice for that.
I know there is a tendency to want a foil for Biden, but his role (based on the sales pitch that he is some sort of foreign policy expert) is to attack McCain, not the VP. In terms of the VP debate, remember there is only one scheduled. Most folks won’t watch it and MSM coverage will minimize its effectiveness for McCain’s ticket (assuming the Republican wins). I think a better strategy is to put up a polished, accomplished VP candidate who has their own set of strengths, more towards the domestic policy side, and ignore Biden’s mudslinging during the debate and hit the stump.
If performance at the VP debate is what matters most, I would go with Rudy…
Y-not on August 25, 2008 at 4:48 PM
I think it would be ironic. While Obama is being hammered for infanticide because he didn’t support a bill that would have prevented a downs syndrome baby being put in a dirty linen closet to die, there stands Palin who gave birth to a downs syndrome baby that she loves. I don’t know much about Palin, other than her reputation for clearing out corruption in Alaska, but I agree that her lack of experience would hurt the ticket to some degree. But if she’s tough, one of the boys (has Hillary ever bagged a moose?) and can learn quickly, she might be quite the asset. Still, I prefer Romney.
NNtrancer on August 25, 2008 at 4:58 PM
I don’t think it would be a dealbreaker. I think once they hear about her latest child they might actually have respect for her. They found out midway through the pregnancy that the child would have down syndrome and still brought it term. She’s not some pro-life BS’er (which I feel many pro-choice advocates believe exist just for votes), she practices what she preaches.
Also, debate wise i think it would be a win-win. If she takes on biden and holds her own, there’s a new woman to turn to for the women movement. If biden does what we all think he could and will do, then the women are enraged.
Butters on August 25, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Man Hugs?
Ugh… you all are making me sick. Single females should never witness the “man Hug”. Our minds race and then we think, OMG.. NOOOO, another one (or two) lost.
Then we give up and adopt cats.
I have one… **sighs** I guess I should get another.
upinak on August 25, 2008 at 5:00 PM
UPDATE: MCCAIN*PALIN 2008
coffee260 on August 25, 2008 at 5:01 PM
No. Please. Stop.
(I agree. Man hug = too close to teh ghey)
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2008 at 5:03 PM
It’s been around a while. Nothing new here.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 25, 2008 at 5:04 PM
Didn’t go anywhere coffee.
upinak on August 25, 2008 at 5:06 PM
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