Huckabee: Romney should have ignored the Massachusetts Supreme Court’s ruling on gay marriage
posted at 7:36 pm on August 25, 2008 by Allahpundit
It comes at 30:45, right after he finishes wondering what the difference is between men marrying men and people marrying animals. (Er, consent?) This plays well with the base and no doubt he’ll enjoy the extra venom it earns him from Team Mitt, but I think he’s dead wrong. Where’s the line? If the governor gets to pick and choose which rulings to enforce, we’re forever on the brink of a constitutional crisis. In fact, if Eisenhower had followed this advice, schools wouldn’t have been desegregated after Brown. What he’s suggesting, actually, in the name of empowering the people is making the judiciary nothing more than an arm of the executive. If that’s the government you want, okay, but in that case you might as well go the whole nine yards and abolish judicial review by constitutional amendment. Short of that, you’re not without options. The governor can campaign for an amendment to overturn an unpopular decision or, in states where judges are elected, to get them tossed out and replaced with ones who’ll vote the way the majority wants. Exit question: The Huck approach or the Romney approach? Click the image to watch.
Update: Good question: “Note that Huckabee’s excuse for soliciting additional taxes — any additional tax schemes; they were all ‘all right by me,’ as he said — was that he was compelled by a state court decision to do so. (Actually, he wasn’t quite, but let’s pretend he was.) How come you didn’t just defy the courts yourself, Huck?”
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Considering that Mike Huckabee (with NO money) got MORE VOTES than Romney (who spent hundreds of millions of dollars to no avail) proves my point.
Not only will almost all Huckabee supporters not vote for a Mccain/Romney ticket…but a large % of all Romney supporters later admitted they regretted voting for him and will not support the ticket.
Even though the MSM is burying the rasmussen and zogby polls showing that Mike Huckabee, as VP, benefits Mccain more than any candidate by far, I’m sure the Mccain camp’s internal polling is well aware of this fact.
Is it also surprising that the MSM is burying the numerous polls that show that roughly 28%-30% of all republicans will not support Romney whatsoever?
Do I have to link you to all the lib site posts about a Romney VP? You will see hundreds and hundreds of commentors, all drooling over the prospect of Mccain nominating Romney for a certain republican defeat.
Now, if you can just put two and two together you might be able to figure out what’s happening here?
SaintOlaf on August 25, 2008 at 11:04 PM
A most appropriate description of the bad taste left in my mouth!
(stands and applauds)
dominigan on August 25, 2008 at 11:05 PM
As a Roman dictator, I take exception to that remark.
sulla on August 25, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Sulla! Sulla who marched on Rome to the undying infamy of his name! (Stolen and paraphrased from Olivier as Crassus in ‘Spartacus’).
As it would be unseemly for a Bishop to find himself nailed to a cross, I offer my humblest apologies.
Bishop on August 25, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Are we done, then?
trailboss on August 25, 2008 at 11:08 PM
And on Fridays we often discourse on the finer points of cravats and on the relative merits of lace versus silk. Then on Sundays we usually have tea and read poetry.
BlakeneyP on August 25, 2008 at 11:08 PM
The good thing if McCain picks Kay Bailey Hutchinson, I think that between the two of them they can give the country away before The One ruins it…wait, did I say there was an upside :(
rgranger on August 25, 2008 at 11:09 PM
so Huckabee would have been another President Jackson… missed that bullet…
Kaptain Amerika on August 25, 2008 at 11:10 PM
This is not about religion. I doesn’t matter if he is a minister. The problem is he doesn’t understand the frame work under which the freedom of religon exists! You can not force people to believe in what you believe! That is SATAN’S game. It is Satan that forces people to obey. It is Satan that tricks and deceives. God will not force them. God did not set up a THEOCRACY! That kind of power over others is against God. God invites us to follow him. He does not force us. We can not impose religon on others. You can not force the human mind to believe what you believe.
If you take away democracy and impose your religous will on a state as Huckabee advocates the devil wins. As long as people are free to choose they can choose right. When you enslave others. You enslave yourself. Huckabee is following the Father of All Lies!
petunia on August 25, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Whatever then…..Do not deal with reality.
Do not discuss the elephant in the room.
Come November…you’ll all be wishing that you did.
SaintOlaf on August 25, 2008 at 11:10 PM
SaintOlaf on August 25, 2008 at 11:04 PM
You miss the benefits that Romney will bring to McCain. McCain’s too afraid of Obamessiah. Now that the attack dog Biden is in the mix, John needs to fight fire with fire. Romney took it to Huck and McCain during the debates. He will light Biden on fire. Obama is tacking against his message, opting for a more of the same type candidate. McCain would tack into the better position. Also, as pointed out in NRO and other sites, Romney would be a valuable pit bull. He’s quick and to the point. A stammering senator is no match for a boardroom veteran.
Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Do I have to link you to all the lib site posts about a Romney VP? You will see hundreds and hundreds of commentors, all drooling over the prospect of Mccain nominating Romney for a certain republican defeat.
Now, if you can just put two and two together you might be able to figure out what’s happening here?
SaintOlaf on August 25, 2008 at 11:04 PM
I put two and two together and figured out that those same commenters would drool flowing rivers of spittle if McCain were to choose Huck. The only reason they haven’t done so is because even crazed lefties don’t think McCain is that dumb…and these folks see UFO’s and think Rove is a cyborg.
Bishop on August 25, 2008 at 11:11 PM
No thread that includes references to SPARTACUS and GHOSTBUSTERS can be all bad….
sulla on August 25, 2008 at 11:11 PM
SaintOlaf on August 25, 2008 at 11:10 PM
I November I hope it is an elephant in the room. Especially if that room is the Oval One.
Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 11:12 PM
That is total BS!
And regarding that rasmussen poll that the Huckie-lovers pathetically harp on non-stop, Romney gets the most votes among REPUBLICIANS. Throw in the Dems, and ya, you starting getting votes for liberal Huckabeen.
Romney wins almost every poll and there is a reason for that! Millions want him as the VP!
Shelby on August 25, 2008 at 11:13 PM
What exactly is the “elephant in the room,” the one we will curse ourselves for not discussing, in November.
trailboss on August 25, 2008 at 11:13 PM
SaintOlaf on August 25, 2008 at 11:10 PM
In November I hope it is an elephant in the room. Especially if that room is the Oval One.
Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Yeah, yeah. Nancy boys the lot of ya’s.
Just don’t be takin away Humping Robot Wednesdays and the twice-daily DUDE posts.
sulla on August 25, 2008 at 11:14 PM
When has Huckabee ever said he would impose his religion on anyone? The only reference that even comes close is when he stated that we should amend the Constitution to be closer to God’s standards. This was addressed to a group of Values Voters in way to get them excited about the 2 issues he was talking about, Marriage and Life. That was it. Nothing more, no matter how much you try to read into. And those two proposed amendments have been part of the GOP platform since 1980.
jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Keemo on August 25, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Fallin on the floor, knockin’ my drink over LMAO!!!!!!
Keemo, I’ve put up with Oregoni-ites for decades askin me not to “Californicate” Oregon. Liberals to the right of me, liberals to the left of me and no where to run. Locally, I just stay mute as best I can. The God, (and Mike Huckabee):) I have HA to vent to the national stage.
I’d love to come and visit some time. Mountains and wilderness where no tree-huggers dare to repulse suits me fine.
Rovin on August 25, 2008 at 11:18 PM
jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Huckabee passing the plate during his campaign swings through mega churches is a prime example of his blurring of religiosity and politics. He cashed that check early and often. Any debate on his candidacy should consider that point.
Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 11:19 PM
This thread and the underlying silliness is why Obama has a good shot in November.
I understand many dislike Huckabee do to his blatant populism and policies, but the angst and misrepresentation in this thread is staggering.
crscott on August 25, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Fires dyin folks. I’m calling it a night.
Exit question: Solaf, do you ever find your self pondering the nature of reality…perhaps the part where it is in opposition to delusional, paranoid thinking? No? Ok, just asking.
trailboss on August 25, 2008 at 11:21 PM
What’s the causation? No comprendé. Obama-bots wish they were half as informed.
Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Romney will help Mccain accomplish an incredible feat…to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
Just when you thought Mccain could not lose this election to Obamba…Romney is there to help Mccain guarantee his 50 state loss!
Romney’s attacks will only lead more people to support Hussein O in fact.
There’s nothing that working class white rust belt voters like more than the billionaires, investment bankers and fund managers that move their jobs to china!
Screw what those working class guys think too…right?
SaintOlaf on August 25, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Is it just me, or are the rabid “Huckabots” the Hillary Clinton supporters of the right?
You guys need to chill out a bit and find the good points in Romney (or any other VP choice that isn’t Huckabee), as opposed to trying to create division and spread hate. Luckily your numbers are small unlike Clinton’s.
jdoubleu on August 25, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Well, I can see that this thread is not going to make it back on topic so I will call it a night.
I thank those of you that contributed to a decent and thoughtful debate on this issue of Gay Marriage, being legal or not, in Massachusetts.
Look forward to many more debates in the future, I just hope the name calling subsides a little between now and then.
jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 11:27 PM
SaintOlaf on August 25, 2008 at 11:23 PM
I’m from the working class that doesn’t envy someone else’s success. I’m from the working class that is too busy working. I’m from the working class that loves capital floating around….that usually leads to more jobs, security, etc. Money and success are worthwhile and useful tools. We shouldn’t despise them or shun them in some misplaced-monkish self-flagellation.
Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 11:27 PM
If thier goats are in heat that day they won’t be making it down to the voting precinct.
peacenprosperity on August 25, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Huckebee is no more a populist than, well, John Edwards.
What is rather staggering is that you have fallen for his pretending to be one.
MB4 on August 25, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Oh, and one more thing St. Olaf….
If the proletariat has workers’ rights concerns, Obama has more than enough room for his comrades. Down with the bourgeoise!
Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Shut up, Huck!
Tim Burton on August 25, 2008 at 11:34 PM
jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 11:14 PM
He put his religous beliefs over the law of the land. Not just for him personally but for the entire state of MA. He would arbitarily impose his religous will without the voice of the people choosing it. That is Theocracy! That is horriblily wrong– worse than gay marriage by far!
petunia on August 25, 2008 at 11:34 PM
You must be one of those “working class” guys who “understand” and “enjoy” when their jobs get shipped off to china…and would gladly vote for the guy who literally sent it himself.
Just wait for the dem ads.
SaintOlaf on August 25, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Rovin on August 25, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Welcome you are… Winter is coming quickly; spring and fall are awesome beyond words. Lot’s of trout out the back door; and the BBQ’s are killer with unknown & sometimes unwanted creatures showing up to check the menu at all times.
Keemo on August 25, 2008 at 11:37 PM
SaintOlaf on August 25, 2008 at 11:23 PM the five Huckabee supporters are certainly free to stay home if Romney is on the ticket. You are such a fool you think there are others who agree with you. But there aren’t. Not even your fellow religonist agree with you. They all laugh and mock you because you continue to think Huckabee’s attempt to over rule the judiciary is good. Huckabee cannot make himself king no matter what he does. And God will certainly not support that kind of ambition.
petunia on August 25, 2008 at 11:39 PM
jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Political Correctness has been a really bad experiment in this country jparks… You’re not going to find much of that sissy crap around these parts.
But hey, come on back now and bring what ya got; throw it down, and see what comes back at ya… :)
Keemo on August 25, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Once again, the personal obsession with, and attacks on Romney. Huck, psychiatrists aren’t always tools of the devil. They can hook you up with some nice medications that will help you with your Romney rage.
WasatchMan on August 25, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Who is this Lib that snuck in here?
You must be far out of touch with reality if you think Mike Huckabee only has five supporters.
Try again.
Mike Huckabee came in second and got MORE VOTES than Romney.
Add up Huckabee voters and you have the minimum number of republicans who will not vote for Mccain/Romney ticket.
Again..second place.
This is not a joke.
I haven’t heard ONE Huckabee supporter who will support a ticket with Romney on it.
SaintOlaf on August 25, 2008 at 11:45 PM
I didn’t read the post and didn’t read the comments, but Huckabigot is just a plain old stupid ass.
cjs1943 on August 25, 2008 at 11:45 PM
okra is gone
is it can be noms time now?
sulla on August 25, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Huckabee is a two bit hack.
And SaintOlaf is a troll.
Xolom on August 25, 2008 at 11:46 PM
SaintOlaf on August 25, 2008 at 11:04 PM
You are a complete moron. The first thing that gave you away was that you read the rabid websites of the disinfranchised who don’t have the money of those who actually worked for their income.
Mitt Romney is nothing less than overqualified to tear down the pillars of rampant pyramid welfare social programs and insert acountability into a system that is corrupt and race baiting to the nth degree.
Why don’t you go hang out at KOS.
winemkr on August 25, 2008 at 11:52 PM
He put his religous beliefs over the law of the land. Not just for him personally but for the entire state of MA. He would arbitarily impose his religous will without the voice of the people choosing it. That is Theocracy! That is horriblily wrong–
worse than gay marriage by far!petunia on August 25, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Damn, Pet, you had a great argument right down to the last line. While I don’t personally condone gay marriage, it’s best to leave this issue up to a higher court to judge. By opining this you open the door to “He put his religous beliefs over the law of the land.” which our forefathers attempted to not allow because their history saw what an over-zeolous religion can do to a “normal” functioning society.
“He would arbitarily impose his religous will without the voice of the people choosing it. That is Theocracy! That is horriblily wrong” +1
Rovin on August 25, 2008 at 11:56 PM
I didn’t read the post and didn’t read the comments, but Huckabigot is just a plain old stupid ass.
cjs1943 on August 25, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Hooo Raw cjs!!!!! where ya been?
Rovin on August 25, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Why don’t you go hang out at KOS.
winemkr on August 25, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Because it’s easier to complain. It’s a lot less work than applying oneself and looking inward. It’s easier to pawn one’s own responsibility off on the government. It’s easier to blame one’s own fallibility on boogey men. What Olaf doesn’t understand is that Mike’s form of government is more intrusion. Besides being the pied piper of class envy, Mike wields governmental coercion in addressing all perceived grievances. Papa Mikey can cure what ails ya.
Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Nothing contributes more to sexism than dumb women.
The Race Card on August 26, 2008 at 12:03 AM
If Huckabee had any point of merit that could stand on it’s own, he wouldn’t have hid under McCain’s skirt during the primaries. Huck countered Romney’s reasoned debate with yuk yuk’s and off-topic rabbit trails.
Cold Steel on August 26, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Actually Romney’s form of government is FAR more intrusive.
Mike Huckabee would have ELIMINATED INCOME TAXES!
Mitt Romney would NOT have eliminated the unconstitutional and socialist income tax!
SaintOlaf on August 26, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Saint Olaf,
You made me register for this site just so I could comment. I am ONE Huckabee supporter that would vote for a McCain/Romney ticket. I may not like Romney- I tend to think the man is too plastic and doesn’t have strong convictions that he will support and defend without waffling- but I WILL vote for a McCain/Romney ticket if that is my choice.
Obama is just too scary to even consider letting into the White House just because I don’t like a guy that is the VP pick for the Republican ticket.
I like Huckabee. He has strong convictions that he is not afraid to support and voice. He may make me cringe sometimes with the things he says- mostly because I know how the other side will interpret them- but he would be my first choice. Petunia- Huckabee didn’t turn the Arkansas state government into a theocracy in 10 years I doubt he would turn the federal government into a theocracy in 4-8 years.
For the record: I could care less that Romney is Morman- it is irrelevant and I’m not an especially religious person- you know those that think Huckabee is the end all, be all.
I will bookmark the site- I may be back. Even for all your “name calling” it is mild compared to some sites I’ve visited.
Just Another Thought on August 26, 2008 at 12:07 AM
If nothing else at least you seem to have mastered inaccuracy.
Babe, I dish it out in measure doses. And if you get lucky I’ll let you gulp down some of my wordlove one day soon.
You need to wait your turn though. There are a lot of HotAirheads waiting to bumb verb-uglies with me.
Please shower before you return. You seem to have drawn fruit flies.
The Race Card on August 26, 2008 at 12:08 AM
1. Huck was in the race long after Romney dropped out, thus competing for more states.
2. Romney STILL ended up with more pledged Delegates than Huck.
The only reason Huck got any traction was basically the Baptist Influence Network, whereby he got protestant churches to drink the kool-aid and get out the vote for him as “The Christian Leader” Candidate.
Huck is a televangelist shyster who should heed well the words “not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven.”
BKennedy on August 26, 2008 at 12:08 AM
I’m reading through this thread, and I’ve never seen this kind of venomous HATE on HA before. It feels much more like the Daily KOS. Is that what you want AP?
Read through the comments and see what I mean.
dominigan on August 25, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Oh, please. You have not been to Kos if you think this is hateful. They just don’t agree with you.
Cindy Munford on August 26, 2008 at 12:11 AM
SaintOlaf on August 26, 2008 at 12:07 AM
I know, I know. Huck would also single handedly end obesity, smoking, foot fetishes, and bol weevils. Bullet points on Power Points are vain attempts at sounding presidential. Mike never fleshed out any of his so called “meatier” platform planks. When pressed during debates, he quickly jumped to other topics. Sort of like his trolling poster minions.
Cold Steel on August 26, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Cindy Munford on August 26, 2008 at 12:11 AM
True, true. We’re not celebrating anyone’s death. Also, we only prescribe the Satan Nameplate on those we love, right St. O?
Cold Steel on August 26, 2008 at 12:17 AM
Sink me, sulla, I just got back to read your comment. It was this damned cravat. Simply refused to tie. I ask you. Sticking out like a pincushion. I’m not sure that I will be able to attend on the Humping Robot Wednesdays so I beg you not to feel slighted if you don’t receive my RSVP back. Cheers.
BlakeneyP on August 26, 2008 at 12:21 AM
I’m glad you spoke up. Thank you. And I hope you post more often.
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Wow, AP.. this is working. Open registration + Red meat topic = more registrations and hits.
Everyone I hope you all were able to maintain ur IQ scores, this whole thread was a waste of time IMHO.
Gnite!
justinok on August 26, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Really? You must not have looked around the Vault; we’ve had some doozies.
And I’d take a bad day on HA over what passes for a good day on Daily Kos any day.
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 12:25 AM
Huckabee would end foot fetishes?
Forget Jimmy Carter; Mike Huckabee is history’s greatest monster!
/homer
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 12:28 AM
SaintOlaf on August 25, 2008 at 11:45 PM Huck stayed in the race for months and months after Romney graciously got out! Huckabee’s numbers were worse than Romney’s even at the end. By every single unbiased measure Huckabee was not any threat to John McCain. All he has gotten is the distain of Americans. Only by forgetting the numbers that Romney earned can you say he came in second. Romney had more delegates than Huckabee ever got. But Romney couldn’t care less about Huckabee. Romney was above the fray. Romney selflessly gave his delegates to McCain. Romney knows the end game is to make America stronger! To make it better.
You and Huckabee do not care about America. You care that you settle some one sided religous grudge. You are competeing in some way but no one is competeing with you. No one wants what you have. The greed is only on your part.
Romney did nothing to Mike Huckabee. Why does Huckabee hate so much? He has turned over his soul to hate and envy and the expected pleasure that will come to him if he can ruin the good name of a good man. Who is the author of that kind of madness? You know the answer. But you refuse to face yourself in the mirror and look at what your goals have become. What your envy has made of your faith and your life.
Mike Huckabee has cost the country the best chance we have had for a long time to get a handle on government spending and put our financial house in order. All for the vainglory and ambitous of a corrupt and wicked politican who uses religion to cynically incite the envy of his followers.
He plays you like a musical instrument…you bay at his bidding. You are a sad excuse for an American.
petunia on August 26, 2008 at 12:30 AM
I wouldn’t say that. I saw a number of amusing, insightful, friendly, thoughtful comments and exchanges. Some oldtimers mixed it up with some of the new crowd, and I saw some nice moments of rapport.
That’s never a bad thing.
It’s rare when an thread is a complete waste. There’s too much talent here.
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Note to Self:
1. Write
2. Edit
3. Post
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 12:34 AM
dominigan on August 25, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Name calling is juvenile? That’s rich, “AP, people are being mean and rude, AP!!! Is this how you want Hot Air to be AP?” ” I’m telling!!!”. Give me a fat break. And then to compare the posters to Kos of DU. You want rude, here’s rude, you are an ASS.
Cindy Munford on August 26, 2008 at 12:35 AM
My dear chap, I would never dream of depriving you of your moment of triumph, but alas, a moment is all I can spare. Don’t forget to floss.
BlakeneyP on August 26, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Just Another Thought on August 26, 2008 at 12:07 AM
What then is a Theocracy? Is it when a religous leader gets himself elected then overules the court of a state to fit his religous point of view.
A despot doesn’t work through a democratic process. A man like Huckabee doing what Huckabee advocated in the video that inspired this thread. That is what I mean by Theocracy. Huckabee will force the MA court and all the sinners of MA do his interpetation of the will of God. If that is not a Theocracy I guess I don’t know what would be.
I am against gay marriage. But I will not give up my democracy over the issue.
petunia on August 26, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Petunia – Wow, your post was spot-on regarding Huckabee and who he really is versus who he wants us to believe he is!
Romney is all class and competence while Huck is just plain scary!
Shelby on August 26, 2008 at 12:41 AM
Okay guys, will McCain’s choice end these discussions? Will the Huckabee fans be humble in victory? Will they be gracious in defeat?
Cindy Munford on August 26, 2008 at 12:53 AM
Mike, don’t forget that it was the Republican elite (Rush, Beck, Hannity, Drudge, Coulter, et al) who sabotaged your campaign for President of the United States. It was the most biased coverage ever seen in a presidential campaign. We can forgive Mike, but don’t forget. They ruined it for all of us. So much for the border fence getting built and securing the border. So much for energy independance in 10 years. So much for getting this nation back in good standing with the Lord – the real ONE protecting America! Everybody knew you were the candidate to lead the Republican party. By the way, who won the South? Unfortunately, the MSM and Republican Establishment had other plans and spoon fed us what we have now. That said, you still changed America. You confirmed the greedy cons are taking the Republican party in a direction everyday conservatives don’t want. These neocon secular Republica elite anti-God conservatives have helped destroy the conservative movement in America. So thanks Mike, your run for President provided us a good look at their true colors. We learned alot about them this Presidential election. Not all was lost.
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 12:55 AM
There is no such thing as non-partisan coverage of the presidential race. Huckabee got burned same way he’s getting treated in this thread.
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 1:00 AM
Rovin on August 25, 2008 at 11:56 PM
I do think that imposing a Theocracy would be worse than the people voting for gay marriage. And I strongly oppose gay marriage. But I am commited to convincing not forcing others. I’m not sure I was understood because I didn’t understand what you disagreed with.
I have actually been reading alot about the Puritains and Pilgrams and the exiled desenters and I am sort of in the Theocratic frame of mind. The marginization of Romney by Huckabee over religous difference is just such a cliche in American history!
I sort of like the Pet thing. I just picked a flower… Rose seemed too common.
petunia on August 26, 2008 at 1:00 AM
Probably not. Between the “just you wait and see” and the “see, I told you so” exchanges, we’re pretty much set until December 6, 2012, when the world ends (thank you, Maya calendar!)
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 1:03 AM
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 1:03 AM
Kill me now. I guess I have been spending too much time at Hot Air anyway.
Cindy Munford on August 26, 2008 at 1:09 AM
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 12:55 AM People who make their living by stating their opinion. Ie. those you mention… stated their opinion that Huckabee is not a conservative and should not represent this party. I totally agree with them. Huckabee never could have convinced anyone out of his small group that he was qualified to be President. He speaks in a codified sub-language of religous thought that not enough people have the desire to decode. And frankly we find it creepy.
It is amazing that you can not see yourself how others see you. And you refuse to take critism. If you took critism instead of starting a blood fued with Romney over it. Next time you might make progress. But I doubt Huckabee can ever recover what he has done to his reputation with this vendetta. He has proven himself a small minded, selfish, corrupt man.
petunia on August 26, 2008 at 1:10 AM
Just stick to the “Dude” headlines and you should be fine.
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 1:11 AM
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 12:55 AM
Are you kidding me?
Cindy Munford on August 26, 2008 at 1:12 AM
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 1:11 AM
Well I will certainly run from any Huckabee/Republican Veep choice threads for a while. What was that, thirty-seven St.Olafs? Goodnight.
Cindy Munford on August 26, 2008 at 1:13 AM
Speak for yourself. Governor Huckabee was the best speaker and the most charismatic of all the Republican candidates. He has a Reaganesque ability to communicate. Y’know, I always find it starnge these people who feel the NEED to point out they are “Evangelicals” whenevr they leave derogatory comments about Governor Huckabee … lol …I’d love to ask you a few questions about the “Christianity” you practice sometime Elizabetty.
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 1:22 AM
Ladies and gentlemen…Hucksters Reserves have arrived en masse. See here: http://forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=14743&sid=22abf0f5729cc05c493e63b6d87bd95e
Is it too late to close this pandora’s box? Seal up the registration before too many of these gomer’s make their way in…
hot-heir on August 26, 2008 at 1:23 AM
Mesa no tink so.
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 1:24 AM
If he’s got to please people like you, you’re right. He’ll never do it.
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 1:26 AM
Oh yeah I forgot the Mayas! Happy day then we get the real Christian Leader! Okay how exactly would the Mayans get that info anyway…
As long as he picks Romney I’ll be fine…not really. I’m sure I’m in the group of folks Huck would do away with given the chance. So that would be a problem. But even my impending doom by Huck’s hand needs to be weighed against a total novice whose most proment vote is for infanticide. I wish Huck would just appologize for being such a smuck. I’d forgive him if he would.
I’m hearing Hutcheson a lot tonight. I haven’t considered what she brings. She has a nice drawl. I like it better than Palin. The codgy old guy and the beauty queen? Just not the punch of real leadership that McCain/Romney would be. Sigh. I’m biased.
I’m also a little insulted on behalf of Hillary folks who the pundits think would not be able to tell the difference between Hillary and some other woman.
petunia on August 26, 2008 at 1:26 AM
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 1:22 AM I was trying to lighten up a bit on Huckabee…but then there you go. Where do you get off judging Elisabetty’s Christianity. Those words alone kick you off the good Christian list. You have no standing to judge the Christianity of another!
petunia on August 26, 2008 at 1:30 AM
Huckagomer’s website Hucksarmy.com has called in the troops for registration and back-up. Raise the drawbridge quick!!!
hot-heir on August 26, 2008 at 1:30 AM
If he were to ever be elected he would have to face far more fierce critics than me. That’s what I mean about not taking critism. Even you must see the childishness of Huckabee’s vendetta against Romney who barely notices him. He’s like a knat. Knat’s do not become President.
petunia on August 26, 2008 at 1:34 AM
Gotta love the heart and soul of America. Yes, it’s one of the few places still left in America where true conservatism thrives in numbers. By the way, who won the South?
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 1:34 AM
If you really wanna know, there’s no better or more accurate source than *snerk* Wikipedia. It’s close enough for jazz, anyway.
Regarding Huck – even if he somehow gets into the Oval Office, I take comfort from the reaction to the last Arkansas governor who got there. If he gets out of line, there’s always Impeachment.
I think Ragnarok is more likely. :)
Cheers.
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 1:37 AM
William Tecumseh Sherm–
OW!
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 1:38 AM
People on ‘ludes should not type.
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 1:40 AM
Christians have every right to discern between right and wrong.
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 1:41 AM
I knew you’d come back for more.
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 1:47 AM
Long ago someone here labeled the man something like Huckahu Akbhar. I soooo LMAO! I have since copied and adopted that name for this man that I actually campaigned for during his first run for governor. So, before the stoning begins from you Huckahu Akbhar lovers begins, remember I have had contact with the man and have actually been on his side at one time.
We were warned by his former church members that he was not as he appeared and looking back, we should have listened. However, after the Clintons and Jim Guy Tucker; we needed anyone that closely resembled a Conservative. The man has a definite ability to morph.
I sent an email once to Allah because I was so furious over the labeling of Southern Evangelicals saying we would not vote for a ticket that had Romney on it. I could not post here yet, but now I can. THIS IS B.S. OF THE HIGHEST ORDER! First of all, many Southerners are so fed up with Huck and his schmuck and disgraceful actions by constantly taking pot shots at Mitt and spewing forth the vilest bilge regarding Mitt’s stance on abortion and gay marriage. It is just so odd that the GOP in Arkansas is in shambles due to Huck’s actions and Phyliss Schafly, one of the most pro-life, Evangelical, activists has not spoken of Huck very affectionately. In fact, she has said he has hurt Conservative causes. Question-If he is willing to shun the laws regarding illegals, what else would he do that violates our laws?
What I will never understand is why those Hucksters that are so pro-life cannot see that dividing the GOP or possibly losing this election could give them a President that supports INFANTICIDE. Now there is something to unify around. And while I am certainly pro-life and anti-gay marriage; I do realize there are many issues at stake here, and one main one would be THE MARXISTS DEMS that are trying to kill OUR NATION. Seems to me that Huckahu Akbhar might want to put away the swords or voodoo dolls of Mitt, and think about his country and those Supremes that might just help out protecting the unborn and marriage between a man and a woman. WE SOUTHERNERS do get it that our nation needs us, and whether or not Mitt is our favorite choice for VP or McCain is our favorite for POTUS; we know without a shadow of a doubt that THE ONE will kill not only unwanted babies, but the elderly, those in the nursing homes and basically all those who do not fit the SOCIALISTIC definition of the “worker”.
Most Southerners who are Evangelicals also did not like the way churches were used to attack Mitt. It left a bad taste in our mouthes. I strongly believe most will support a McCain/Romney ticket. For one thing we would be so relieved it would not be Ridge or Lieberman. But in all sincerity, I think many feel bad about falling for the lies and are wanting to make amends. Plus when Fred fell out some of us actually began campaigning for Mitt and were very impressed with his Conservatism and love for this nation. We like Mitt down here and are very supportive of him being named VP.
freeus on August 26, 2008 at 1:54 AM
You wanted to quiz her on her religous views. That is not discernment. That is unrightous judgement. You and I both can call upon the power of God to help us judge the right and wrong of our own choices but you nor I can claim to judge another of our Father’s children.
petunia on August 26, 2008 at 2:05 AM
freeus on August 26, 2008 at 1:54 AM I believe you are a true patriot!
I too will most likely have to settle for less than what I wanted both for the top and second on the ticket. I have always thought McCain was too old. And frankly he has not been a great Senator of late. I am from AZ. So I have been resisting him. But Obama is truly a unifying force. I am amazed that the Democratic Party have chosen such an inexperienced and unvetted man. With truly alarming associations with some of the most radical distructive elements of this society. Obama is by far the most liberal who has been nominated in my lifetime.
petunia on August 26, 2008 at 2:18 AM
That was an interesting post. You were saying you were an Evangelical. Tell me, do you think God has protected and blessed America or have it’s leaders done that? Thanks.
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 2:21 AM
OMG… the Huckabee and Mitt lovers need to quit it..
hopefully the VP will neither one of those.
Chakra Hammer on August 26, 2008 at 2:34 AM
That would be Dr.Cwac.Cwac .
Welcome aboard.
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 2:35 AM
How could I not? That was the perfect set-up.
sulla on August 26, 2008 at 2:36 AM
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 2:21 AM
I know one thing for sure. God did not choose Mike Huckabee! Or his methods of hate and division. He has taken a decent and worthy religon and besmirshed it, and embarrassed it in front of the nation.
He has dragged the name of God into politics in a way that God did not plan nor approve when he inspired the founding fathers to stop one religon from having power over another in this government. Huckabee has shamed all religons of this nation. We are all ashamed of him.
petunia on August 26, 2008 at 2:39 AM
Look lady, Elizabetty took it upon herself to speak for all Evangelicals okay, by saying:
Now, I don’t think Mike Huckabee is an embarrassment to the Republican party nor to Christians in America, and I don’t think somebody should say a thing like that, in fact, I think it’s a bold faced lie. Furthermore, I don’t think Elizabetty has any right speaking on behalf of MYSELF or any other CHRISTIAN for that matter! Why is she speaking for ALL EVANGELICALS IN AMERICA?? So I have every right to determine who this person is? Are they a Christian themselves to be making such wild statements!
Do you know what your doing or even saying? You condemn me for trying to discern if Elizabetty, who takes it upon herself to speak for all Evangelicals in America, is a Christian or not, yet you ignore her judgment of Governor Huckabee who himself is a Christian. Whatever kind of point you were going for, you missed. Furthermore, Scripture tells us to “Try the spirits,” to “prove all things,” and to “beware of false prophets.” We are to use discernment; we are to distinguish between the false and the true; but we are not to condemn others, which I have not done. Jesus warns against condemning the actions or motives of others. Only the LORD has the right, since He has full knowledge of a person’s actions and motives. So in light of her remarks, I see no reason at all why she wouldn’t gladly answer my questions. A true Christian is not ashamed of being Christian.
apacalyps on August 26, 2008 at 2:52 AM
Look, look, we’re all aware Mitt Romney doesn’t “speak the language of Zion as a mother tongue,” but what are you going to do, ask him for a valid ID? Wouldn’t that be considered drinking the wrong Jesus Juice?
thecountofincognito on August 26, 2008 at 2:57 AM
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