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Huckabee: Romney should have ignored the Massachusetts Supreme Court’s ruling on gay marriage

posted at 7:36 pm on August 25, 2008 by Allahpundit
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It comes at 30:45, right after he finishes wondering what the difference is between men marrying men and people marrying animals. (Er, consent?) This plays well with the base and no doubt he’ll enjoy the extra venom it earns him from Team Mitt, but I think he’s dead wrong. Where’s the line? If the governor gets to pick and choose which rulings to enforce, we’re forever on the brink of a constitutional crisis. In fact, if Eisenhower had followed this advice, schools wouldn’t have been desegregated after Brown. What he’s suggesting, actually, in the name of empowering the people is making the judiciary nothing more than an arm of the executive. If that’s the government you want, okay, but in that case you might as well go the whole nine yards and abolish judicial review by constitutional amendment. Short of that, you’re not without options. The governor can campaign for an amendment to overturn an unpopular decision or, in states where judges are elected, to get them tossed out and replaced with ones who’ll vote the way the majority wants. Exit question: The Huck approach or the Romney approach? Click the image to watch.

Update: Good question: “Note that Huckabee’s excuse for soliciting additional taxes — any additional tax schemes; they were all ‘all right by me,’ as he said — was that he was compelled by a state court decision to do so. (Actually, he wasn’t quite, but let’s pretend he was.) How come you didn’t just defy the courts yourself, Huck?”


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Just because you can call someone names and insult their background does not make you superior.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:09 PM

It is not Huckabee’s background that has fallen into disrepute, but rather his soul.

semloh on August 25, 2008 at 9:12 PM

jparks1972 No matter how much you hate Romney no one who is an American can possibily excuse Huckabee this time. The governer of a state cannot make the law alone! This is a government of the people.

Exactly!!! But yet, according to Massachusetts Constitution, it is still illegal for same sex marriage. The Legislature voted it down, even after Romney ordered the Justices and Clerks to perform the ceremonies or resign.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:12 PM

from the New York Times,
Chuck Schumer and Mike Huckabee kill each-other trying to get to a camera!

try again later on August 25, 2008 at 9:02 PM

Has an effeminant slapfight ever ended in a fatality?

Other than that, only way I see this outcome is like this:

Huck unhooks his lower jaw, allowing him to swallow the junior Senator from New York whole but dies a few hours later trying to pass the proverbial 100 lbs of dung stuffed into a 50 pound bag.

Or would that make it a 100 lbs. of dung, stuffed into a 50 lb. bag stuffed into a 200 lb. sack of dung?

SuperCool on August 25, 2008 at 9:12 PM

The only bigots I have seen are here. Bigoted against Christians and country people who are not living the high life like the Mitt Romneys of the world. Just because we do not belong to a country club does not mean we aren’t Conservative. Just because you can call someone names and insult their background does not make you superior.

Class warfare rears its ugly and inevitable head.

It’s not Huckabee’s faith that bothers me – it’s his political record.

And I’m not even living the high life.

Slublog on August 25, 2008 at 9:12 PM

The only bigots I have seen are here.

He must not get out much. The hole just gets deeper and its only day one.

Bishop on August 25, 2008 at 9:13 PM

Do you guys honestly believe it was all a coincident that Romney was in charge when Massachusetts made Gay Marriage happen, Socialized Healthcare mandatory, and taxpayer funded abortions on demand a $50 copay? Really?

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:14 PM

Romney really got deep under Huck’s thin skin didn’t he. Reminds me of the little fat boy relentlessly teased in school by better looking jock-types that end up highly successful.

Imagine Huck as President, and his reaction to others like Sarkozy and Putin, maybe snickering behind his back at some G8 conference…

I keep picturing Prez. Huckabbee with his finger on the nuclear trigger, having repeating nightmares about being teased, waking up one night and saying to himself, “I’ll show them…I’ll show all of them.”

trailboss on August 25, 2008 at 9:14 PM

Okay!! I am sooo tired of this little man Mike Hukabee!! I want him to just go away. He is the only Republican that I can think of who is doing everything in his power to NOT unify the Republican party! He should be ashamed of himself!!

I hope McCain gets wind of this. I wish he would change his mind about bringing him along on the campaign with him and Romney the end of this week. Sheesh! What a loser!!

GO MITT ROMNEY FOR VP!!!

Snicker_Snort on August 25, 2008 at 9:15 PM

you can make a strong argument the State(and society) has an interest for its long term viability not to effectively promote homosexuality, and through marriage for the first time in history validate it with a ceremony. Basic Demographics, not to mention Public health concerns.

really its part of the liberal welfare state contradiction Mark Steyn has wrote so well about.

I think a better analogy would be a brother marrying his sister and having offspring.

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 7:56 PM

Or Pedophiles, they “love” the kid afterall….which would be the logic of Muslim countries following the lead of their prophet.

Idiot ideas like this would’ve never occurred to the many great generations before us, its where we’ve sadly come philosophically(theologically) in America, about 30 years behind Europe.

jp on August 25, 2008 at 9:15 PM

Socialized Healthcare mandatory, and taxpayer funded abortions on demand a $50 copay? Really?

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:14 PM

Human life is only worth $50 dont you know!

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 9:15 PM

Oh, that’s just Huck being Huck. Can’t we just trade him to the Dodgers too? ;-)

cannonball on August 25, 2008 at 9:15 PM

you would be glad that Gov. Huckabee is trying to keep the pro-life, pro-traditional family issues as part of the republican platform.

So where is the threat to that part of the platform coming from? Certainly not from Romney- he’s the one still married to his first wife unlike McCain who was out getting a new marriage license before he was even divorced! McCain’s the one who refuses to condemn gay marriage (different than upholding the law). McCain’s the one who refuses to talk about faith and his moral grounding. ARE YOU SAYING THAT JOHN MCCAIN POSES A THREAT TO THE PRO-LIFE, PRO-TRADITIONAL FAMILY ISSUES AS PART OF THE REPUBLICAN PLATFORM?

highhopes on August 25, 2008 at 9:17 PM

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008

If I lived in Mass and had the money, perhaps I would explore a judicial avenue against the court’s opinion, but I don’t.

You don’t live in Mass???? Then shut up, let those folks live like they want to.

Cindy Munford on August 25, 2008 at 9:17 PM

Mormon Doc on August 25, 2008 at 8:53 PM

If Mitt is selected as VP we can expect the choice to send the Huckster into a shame cycle. I foresee him eating his weight in Rocky Road ice cream and climbing to the top of the nearest water tower with a rifle.

Hysterical! I just spit my drink out on this one. This would be a welcome distraction.

alwaysright43 on August 25, 2008 at 9:17 PM

There is a big difference between fighting against gay marriage and fighting against paying extra taxes for education. The educational system in Arkansas needed improvement. And with those tax increases the Arkansas system improved because they had the money to make needed changes.

Actually, the mandate was not for higher taxes – the mandate was to fund, not to tax. Huckabee could have pushed the legislature to find the money by cutting spending in other areas, but he willingly went along with a tax increase.

And the only reason Huckabee had to defend the tax increases for education was because Romney’s supporters donated $550,000 to CFG so they would run those tax ads on Huckabee.

Oh, the horror! I guess they didn’t get their money’s worth, since the CFG’s report card on Romney isn’t all flowers and wine. Huckabee’s record deserved to be pointed out – he’s a public figure. If he can’t take the fact that an advocacy organization pointed out his actions as governor without whining about it, then he’s not particularly well-suited to lead the nation.

Slublog on August 25, 2008 at 9:17 PM

Hey Huckabee, this is not Venezuela.

roninacreage on August 25, 2008 at 9:18 PM

Really we can not give Huckabee the power to pick our canidates. Why because we all find his hate so attactive? People who hate for a living should not be given power just because we are afraid to stand up to them.

I am fine with who ever McCain picks until Huckabee starts up then I feel like I’m going to be fighting mad if Huckabee pulls the puppet strings of John McCain. It is like he is daring McCain to pick Mitt. So Huckabee can stage some kind of revolt? Only problem is he has lost all creditbility.

And don’t anyone dare to excuse this kind of anti-American stand on the Constitution and our government of law and order!!!!!!

petunia on August 25, 2008 at 8:55 PM

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I agree with you. If I thought Huckabee were more clever than I know he is, I might suspect reverse psychology, as the more he talks against Romney, the more people seem willing to accept Romney.

Can.Utility on August 25, 2008 at 9:18 PM

Okay!! I am sooo tired of this little man Mike Hukabee!!

Snicker_Snort on August 25, 2008 at 9:15 PM

Inside of Huckabee there seems to be an ever smaller man trying to get out.

semloh on August 25, 2008 at 9:19 PM

Any Huckabee fans here should realize that among the independent and Democratic voters, Huckabee = Pat Robertson/Jerry Falwell. If he keeps attacking Mitt Romney it is only going to make Romney look better to these voters.
In fact, if I were more of a cynic, I might even suggest that John McCain asked him to do this, so that when he does pick Romney as his VP it looks like a Sister Souljah moment with the religious right.

rockmom on August 25, 2008 at 9:19 PM

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:14 PM

Look, I know you think you’re blazing a new trail here and bringing light to the ignorant, but we’ve debated all these points before. Why do you think the condemnation of Huck is nearly universal?

Dead Hand Control on August 25, 2008 at 9:19 PM

Do you guys honestly believe it was all a coincident that Romney was in charge when Massachusetts made Gay Marriage happen, Socialized Healthcare mandatory, and taxpayer funded abortions on demand a $50 copay? Really?

And the parroting of the talking points continues.

Huckabee supporters really need to bring more game.

Slublog on August 25, 2008 at 9:20 PM

Then shut up, let those folks live like they want to.

So this is your reason for over-looking or ignoring Romney’s liberal record? Why is it ok to over-look Romney’s record but not Huckabee’s?

My point was that Romney was the first to institute Gay Marriage, $50 copay taxpayer funded abortion, and Socialized Healthcare. Not some Liberal Democrat but a supposed Conservative. What happens when he takes to the Oval Office? Was he lying back then or now? His only record is a Liberal one.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:20 PM

One the contrary, Bishop, you can see it all. You fail, however, to draw the final conclusion from what you see. You are too hesitant in drawing your inferences.
semloh on August 25, 2008 at 9:08 PM

Not in the least as there is no “final” conclusion, if there was, I would have turned my back on every politician from every party long ago. Whatever it is that makes Huckabee seem odd to me has not yet been quantified (by me), though whatever it is, the last place I would like to see him is the Oval Office.

Bishop on August 25, 2008 at 9:21 PM

Exactly!!! But yet, according to Massachusetts Constitution, it is still illegal for same sex marriage. The Legislature voted it down, even after Romney ordered the Justices and Clerks to perform the ceremonies or resign.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:12 PM

With all due respect you haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. If you want to educate yourself use Google there’s plenty of news stories that will lay it all out for you. I don’t have the time to go through it all for you.

TheBigOldDog on August 25, 2008 at 9:21 PM

SHUT THE HUCK UP!!! You’re irrelevant.

D2Boston on August 25, 2008 at 9:22 PM

I hear your pain brother.

Where about in the Commonwealth did you suffer?

I was in the Brockton area for many years before I bailed.

Et tu Brute on August 25, 2008 at 8:11 PM

Randolph. Heck, we were neighbors.

Geronimo on August 25, 2008 at 9:22 PM

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:20 PM

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Somebody who runs a HuckPac website in their spare time is not necessarily an objective source.

Can.Utility on August 25, 2008 at 9:22 PM

My point was that Romney was the first to institute Gay Marriage, $50 copay taxpayer funded abortion, and Socialized Healthcare.

So you’re under the mistaken assumption that Romney was the King of Massachusetts, then?

Explains quite a bit.

Slublog on August 25, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Bigoted against Christians and country people who are not living the high life like the Mitt Romneys of the world. Just because we do not belong to a country club does not mean we aren’t Conservative.

Almost missed that one. It sounds so…so…so…liberal. Rich people bad, enjoying your succcess bad, having money bad.

Bishop on August 25, 2008 at 9:24 PM

SuperCool on August 25, 2008
……..excellent my friend!

try again later on August 25, 2008 at 9:24 PM

Do you guys honestly believe it was all a coincident that Romney was in charge when Massachusetts made Gay Marriage happen, Socialized Healthcare mandatory, and taxpayer funded abortions on demand a $50 copay? Really?

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:14 PM

Now I take back the, “with all due respect” part of my previous post.

TheBigOldDog on August 25, 2008 at 9:24 PM

Somebody who runs a HuckPac website in their spare time is not necessarily an objective source.

Can.Utility on August 25, 2008 at 9:22 PM

One should never have friends unequal to themselves.

semloh on August 25, 2008 at 9:25 PM

What exactly is it about Huck that makes him an alleged Republican? The only issues I can think of are abortion & gay marriage,

Not only are those his ONLY conservative issues, EVEN THOSE ISSUES go out the window rather than support Romney.

They were willing to have a pro-choice canidate rather than Romney.

They are willing to undermine one of the loudest and bravest voices for marriage rather than give Romney the credit.

So pretty much Huckabee and his supporters don’t have any conservative issues they are willing to stand for. They just stand against the Mormon. They believe in nothing. They stand for nothing.

petunia on August 25, 2008 at 9:26 PM

I didn’t raise taxes, I raised hope.

bluetick on August 25, 2008 at 9:27 PM

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 8:49 PM

Romney’s not my first choice, and maybe not my second. None the less, he does a decent job of explicating his thought process in dialogue. No one can doubt the dedication of Romney’s sincerity with his own wife and children as family structure for life. If McCain chose Romney, good for them. They’d complement each other well.

On first impression, no background knowledge, Huckabee seemed an interesting person to consider. But he is a rotten egg. Doc’s right; the Huckster is revolting. Nothing worse than cracking a rotten egg, the last one in the carton, for breakfast. Not only must you go without, but the stench is pervasively grotesque, like hell in your house.

I would be wary of further federal bureaucratic growth, as they have tendencies to placate squeaky wheel democrat gluts legislating do-gooder public works that lend to greater corruption and less responsibility from government employees.

If you’re really thinking liar of mind change, study Nancy P. or Obama of Whole Cloth, Inc.

maverick muse on August 25, 2008 at 9:27 PM

With all due respect you haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. If you want to educate yourself use Google there’s plenty of news stories that will lay it all out for you. I don’t have the time to go through it all for you.

TheBigOldDog on August 25, 2008 at 9:21 PM

So what you are telling me is that the Supreme Court of Massachusetts has the ability to enforce a law that is their own opinion and still not in the Constitution of Massachusets as an amendment or article? Even though the Constitution clearly states that the Legislature that represents the people are the ones that make the laws?

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:27 PM

Mike who?

Purple Fury on August 25, 2008 at 9:28 PM

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:27 PM

I don’t have the time to give you remedial lesson in civics and you really don’t want one.

TheBigOldDog on August 25, 2008 at 9:28 PM

So what you are telling me is that the Supreme Court of Massachusetts has the ability to enforce a law that is their own opinion and still not in the Constitution of Massachusets as an amendment or article? Even though the Constitution clearly states that the Legislature that represents the people are the ones that make the laws?

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:27 PM

Not only in Massachusetts, but every state – perhaps by chance you have heard of a suit entitled Roe v Wade?

Can.Utility on August 25, 2008 at 9:29 PM

OH please!!! Let’s be clear there is no liberal record for Romney. It is a figment of your imagination. You can find words that did not start a fight. But if you look at his record, which you refuse to do out of your prejudice. Never mind– trying to show blind people the light is futile. You do not have eyes to see.

petunia on August 25, 2008 at 9:29 PM

So you’re under the mistaken assumption that Romney was the King of Massachusetts, then?

Heh

maverick muse on August 25, 2008 at 9:30 PM

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:27 PM

I’m really starting to miss St. Olaf.

trailboss on August 25, 2008 at 9:30 PM

Huck??? Is that you? What, no dogcatcher jobs available? Did the Jay Leno circuit dry up on you? Leave the heavy lifting of jurisprudence and separation of powers to the big boys. If it helps, I’ll put it into religious terms…. render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. What is so unflattering about you Mikey-Mike is your uncanny ability at making it all about you.

Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 9:31 PM

So pretty much Huckabee and his supporters don’t have any conservative issues they are willing to stand for. They just stand against the Mormon. They believe in nothing. They stand for nothing.
petunia on August 25, 2008 at 9:26 PM

So you are the all-knowing? You can read my mind? Since when is it ok for someone to accuse someone else of being a bigot? Since when does disagreeing with someone’s record on the issues constitute them being classified along side the KKK? When are Romney supporters going to get over the bigot excuse and look at his Liberal record, one that even no Democrat can match.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:32 PM

Bishop I am with you, I don’t know exactly what it is that bothers me about Huckabee but they say to trust your feelings so I am. I though jparks 1972 was going to be fun but he has gone Alphie for me so I am done. I tried to find a quote from Instapundit from during the primaries but I can’t. To paraphrase he said he couldn’t vote for someone that his spell check kept referring to as Huckleberry.

Cindy Munford on August 25, 2008 at 9:32 PM

trailboss on August 25, 2008 at 9:30 PM

What gives? A chicken-fried diatribe from Huck and no spasmodic speaking in tongues from the resident St.?

Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Huckaliar is the most self-serving, dishonest people ALIVE – and that INCLUDES Billy jeff!!

grtflmark on August 25, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Same reason Bush hasn’t ignored the SCOTUS on any of its decisions he didn’t like. We are a nation of laws, not men.

TheBigOldDog on August 25, 2008 at 7:54 PM

But that last time I checked, the Judiciary was supposed to interpret the laws, not make them. That is what the legislature is for. And the executive branch is in charge of executing those laws.

So, I take it you’re just fine with judicial activism?

I just don’t understand the outright hatred people have on HA for Huckabee.

dominigan on August 25, 2008 at 9:33 PM

So you are the all-knowing? You can read my mind? Since when is it ok for someone to accuse someone else of being a bigot?

Hmmmm…

Slublog on August 25, 2008 at 9:34 PM

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:32 PM

When squirrel popping nanny-staters quit resorting to their hyperbolic wit in comparing Mitt with the most liberal democrat. Check yourself jp. Running Bain Capital isn’t exactly cribbing from Mao or Stalin.

Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 9:36 PM

I don’t get this clown.

Maybe he thinks he should have gotten his own Rielle Hunter after losing all the weight?

ex-Democrat on August 25, 2008 at 9:37 PM

Oh, that’s just Huck being Huck. Can’t we just trade him to the Dodgers too? ;-)

cannonball on August 25, 2008 at 9:15 PM

That still leaves him in the US. I’d prefer he was traded to somewhere a little further away- like New Zealand.

Hollowpoint on August 25, 2008 at 9:37 PM

Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Yeah, I’m starting to worry a little…

At least the Saint is entertaining, this 1972 guy just spouts talking points. Yawn.

trailboss on August 25, 2008 at 9:38 PM

What is he doing?

drjohn on August 25, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Its not for voters to decide what legal contracts (re: civil) two consenting adults enter in to. If churches don’t want to host the ceremony part; cool. But if two adults want to sign a marriage certificate, who cares.

lorien1973 on August 25, 2008 at 7:56 PM

Wrong. We are a nation of laws. The legislature is supposed to represent their constituents in creating law. However, if the legislature does not do its part, the people are empowered with ways to ensure that their sponsored bill gets an up or down vote. This is to prevent powermongering in the legislature. This happened in MA and CA.

My question is why do homosexuals feel like they have to enter into a contract? It isn’t for additional “rights” as they claim, since you can get all that with power of attornee and other means. The simple fact is that they want their lifestyle approved by the masses.

dominigan on August 25, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Oh, that’s just Huck being Huck. Can’t we just trade him to the Dodgers too? ;-)

cannonball on August 25, 2008 at 9:15 PM

That still leaves him in the US. I’d prefer he was traded to somewhere a little further away- like New Zealand.

Hollowpoint on August 25, 2008 at 9:37 PM

I was giddy when he started doing the Grand Cayman Speaking Shakedown. I thought maybe he was working on his next gig. I guess every political party has it’s own drunk idiot uncle who shows up for turkey dinner with his pants off.

Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 9:40 PM

I can understand the sentiments of the Huck supporters and frankly they need to get over the man. Move on, it’s okay.. There are many other great candidates out there. On the other hand, I think the huck haters should chill out, he’s a man with some self esteem issues, there’s really no need to personally pummel him.

On the greater point, what can we as the people do to defend conservative moral values? So if electing a pro marriage leader is basically worthless (ie Bush) then why does the GOP keep exploiting this issue?

justinok on August 25, 2008 at 9:40 PM

When are Romney supporters going to get over the bigot excuse and look at his Liberal record, one that even no Democrat can match.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:32 PM

Hey, Joe. Going overboard isn’t going to make any case except overstatement. Mormons are not alone suffering a knee-jerk rebuttal of “bigot” to any slight, deserved or not. But for you to claim that Romney’s liberal record overwhelms Obama’s makes for good jokes. Good luck fishing.

maverick muse on August 25, 2008 at 9:41 PM

But that last time I checked, the Judiciary was supposed to interpret the laws, not make them. That is what the legislature is for. And the executive branch is in charge of executing those laws.

So, I take it you’re just fine with judicial activism?

I just don’t understand the outright hatred people have on HA for Huckabee.

dominigan on August 25, 2008 at 9:33 PM

That’s about as idiotic an argument as I’ve heard all day. The issue is indeed judicial activism which is why appointing conservative (ie, those that believe in original intent) judges are so important. Under our system of laws, not men that so many of you seem to know very little about, there is a process for redressing rulings and it’s called new laws and when necessary constitutional amendments. Under our system the executive branch doesn’t get to simply ignore lawful rulings he/she happens to disagree with. If you’d get your head out of the sand you’d realize this has nothing to do with Huck per se except that he seems to have a Putin/Chavez streak in him if he thinks in this country the executive branch gets to ignore the co-equal judicial branch.

TheBigOldDog on August 25, 2008 at 9:43 PM

What gives? A chicken-fried diatribe from Huck and no spasmodic speaking in tongues from the resident St.?

Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 9:33 PM

I can only surmise that he must be quite disposed at this time.

semloh on August 25, 2008 at 9:43 PM

I can only surmise that he must be quite disposed at this time.

He’s in Denver?

maverick muse on August 25, 2008 at 9:44 PM

justinok on August 25, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Because when we concede ground on any traditional ideal, the progressive liberalism rampant in our country moves the argument, further eroding our constitutional underpinnings. Relativism is a power grab to replace traditionalism’s dominance. It’s unenlightened and ignorant and I’ll personally fight it at every angle.

Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 9:45 PM

Or perhaps the resident Saint is indisposed. With him it is often difficult to separate the two.

semloh on August 25, 2008 at 9:45 PM

On the other hand, I think the huck haters should chill out, he’s a man with some self esteem issues, there’s really no need to personally pummel him.

“Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.”
–Euripides

sulla on August 25, 2008 at 9:46 PM

But for you to claim that Romney’s liberal record overwhelms Obama’s makes for good jokes. Good luck fishing.

maverick muse on August 25, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Name me one Democrat that has managed to get Gay Marriage instituted, Socialized Healthcare signed into law, and taxpayer funded abortion for $50 copay. They have all tried and failed but Romney succeeded. I am sure he had help but he was ultimately responsible.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Inside of Huckabee there seems to be an ever smaller man trying to get out.

semloh on August 25, 2008 at 9:19 PM

Hey, new guy. I like the cut of your jib.

As for jpark1972, the Huckpac web site drone, I am torn in this election by the conflict between needing the votes of ignorant nitwits who adore Huckabee, and wanting to win the election without their votes.

Jaibones on August 25, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Not only in Massachusetts, but every state – perhaps by chance you have heard of a suit entitled Roe v Wade?

Can.Utility on August 25, 2008 at 9:29 PM

If the only example you can come up with is that disgusting piece of judicial activism, you need to look harder. Next you’re going to trot out Kelo just law.

dominigan on August 25, 2008 at 9:48 PM

I can only surmise that he must be quite disposed at this time.

He’s in Denver?

maverick muse on August 25, 2008 at 9:44 PM

I think he hasn’t piped up yet because this thread hasn’t degenerated into one of those mormon-bashing slugfests. It keeps coming up but doesn’t seem to stick.

trailboss on August 25, 2008 at 9:48 PM

Name me one Democrat that has managed to get Gay Marriage instituted, Socialized Healthcare signed into law, and taxpayer funded abortion for $50 copay. They have all tried and failed but Romney succeeded. I am sure he had help but he was ultimately responsible.

Resistance is futile. We are the Borg.

Slublog on August 25, 2008 at 9:48 PM

“Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.”
–Euripides

sulla on August 25, 2008 at 9:46 PM

And whom the gods would torment, they first make Huckabee apologists.

semloh on August 25, 2008 at 9:49 PM

As for jpark1972, the Huckpac web site drone
Jaibones on August 25, 2008 at 9:47 PM

I don’t visit Huck PAC that often, just so you know. Too much spam.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:49 PM

Name me one Democrat that has managed to get Gay Marriage instituted, Socialized Healthcare signed into law, and taxpayer funded abortion for $50 copay. They have all tried and failed but Romney succeeded. I am sure he had help but he was ultimately responsible.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Right, and Kanye West was right that George W. Bush “caused” Katrina with his RoveBot2000 Weather Machine because he doesn’t like … well, you know.

sulla on August 25, 2008 at 9:50 PM

But for you to claim that Romney’s liberal record overwhelms Obama’s makes for good jokes. Good luck fishing.

maverick muse on August 25, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Name me one Democrat that has managed to get Gay Marriage instituted, Socialized Healthcare signed into law, and taxpayer funded abortion for $50 copay. They have all tried and failed but Romney succeeded. I am sure he had help but he was ultimately responsible.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Name me one democrat who is faithful to his wife, ran the olympics, managed a “Ben Affleck/Matt Damon” state without losing his soul, made CAYSH at Bain Capital, and gets under Schmucks skin?

Aren’t lame scenarios fun? Do you like word associations too? Or would you like what-if’s?

Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 9:50 PM

huck needs a vacation.

Emeka on August 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM

So you are the all-knowing? You can read my mind? Since when is it ok for someone to accuse someone else of being a bigot? Since when does disagreeing with someone’s record on the issues constitute them being classified along side the KKK? When are Romney supporters going to get over the bigot excuse and look at his Liberal record, one that even no Democrat can match.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:32 PM

I was a vocal critic of Romney during the primaries (for reasons other than his religion), but you’re pretty obviously the typical Huckabot- willing to ignore or lie about Hucksters RINOism while exaggerating Romney’s.

If having a conservative record is so important to you, why hitch your horse to a RINO like the Huckster?

No real need to answer, as we all know the answer you didn’t quite deny- Huckster is a self-proclaimed “Christian leader” and Romney is a Mormon. You’re not the first deranged Huckabot to wash up on our shores.

Hollowpoint on August 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM

And whom the gods would torment, they first make Huckabee apologists.

semloh on August 25, 2008 at 9:49 PM

Dang. Them gods is MEAN.

sulla on August 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM

Maybe Huck is who Barry had in mind when he spoke of “bitter clingers”.

Time to spend some time on the psychiatrist’s coach, Huck, to work out your bizarre obsession with Mitt.

Buy Danish on August 25, 2008 at 9:54 PM

I was a vocal critic of Romney during the primaries (for reasons other than his religion), but you’re pretty obviously the typical Huckabot- willing to ignore or lie about Hucksters RINOism while exaggerating Romney’s.

If having a conservative record is so important to you, why hitch your horse to a RINO like the Huckster?

No real need to answer, as we all know the answer you didn’t quite deny- Huckster is a self-proclaimed “Christian leader” and Romney is a Mormon. You’re not the first deranged Huckabot to wash up on our shores.

Hollowpoint on August 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM

I don’t pretend Huckabee is perfect. Nor do I agree with him on every issue. I just happen to agree with him on this issue of Gay Marriage and the Massachusetts Supreme Court not having jurisdiction to make law.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:54 PM

As for jpark1972, the Huckpac web site drone, I am torn in this election by the conflict between needing the votes of ignorant nitwits who adore Huckabee, and wanting to win the election without their votes.

Jaibones on August 25, 2008 at 9:47 PM

If a herd of buffaloes had passed along, there could not be a greater mess.

semloh on August 25, 2008 at 9:54 PM

I was a vocal critic of Romney during the primaries (for reasons other than his religion), but you’re pretty obviously the typical Huckabot- willing to ignore or lie about Hucksters RINOism while exaggerating Romney’s.

If having a conservative record is so important to you, why hitch your horse to a RINO like the Huckster?

No real need to answer, as we all know the answer you didn’t quite deny- Huckster is a self-proclaimed “Christian leader” and Romney is a Mormon. You’re not the first deranged Huckabot to wash up on our shores.

Hollowpoint on August 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM

I have to give credit to Hollowpoint and Maverick Muse. They’ve had issue with the “Hair” and they’ve given rational due diligence. With that in mind, they don’t piss themselves every time HotAir or NRO whispers “Romney for VP.”

Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 9:54 PM

Hollowpoint on August 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM

Hooray for Hollow-point!

Succinct and rife with imagery. I want to be like you someday…just like you.

trailboss on August 25, 2008 at 9:56 PM

huck needs a vacation.

Emeka on August 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM

Huck needs an enema.

Murphy9 on August 25, 2008 at 9:56 PM

Go away, Huckster. We don’t need a preacher for a President.

misterpeasea on August 25, 2008 at 9:57 PM

If having a conservative record is so important to you, why hitch your horse to a RINO like the Huckster?

According to Human Events, Romney was ranked the #8 RINO. Huckabee did not make the list at all. I am sure Huckabee is on some RINO list somewhere but there is always two sides to every story.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:58 PM

Go away, Huckster. We don’t need a preacher for a President.

Why exactly does having been a preacher disqualify you for President? Does this theory not translate to Bishops?

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:59 PM

huck needs a vacation.

Emeka on August 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM

Huck needs an enema.

Murphy9 on August 25, 2008 at 9:56 PM

Huck has made too many enemas already, I really think he needs one of them, you know, the warm water in a bag thingys.

trailboss on August 25, 2008 at 10:00 PM

I’m really starting to miss St. Olaf.

trailboss on August 25, 2008 at 9:30 PM

Yep. And where did “The Chosen One” go?

stenwin77 on August 25, 2008 at 10:00 PM

Mike who?

Purple Fury on August 25, 2008 at 9:28 PM

* TOTAL DELEGATES Needed to Win 1,191

John McCain 1,575

Mike Huckabee 278

Mitt Romney 271

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 10:00 PM

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:58 PM

If Huck can’t even poll in something he excels at (i.e. class envy, nannyism, progressivism) why do you waste key strokes on him?

Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 10:00 PM

Hollowpoint on August 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM

Well said.

During the primaries I was frequently amused, but never offended, by your opposition to Romney. You got downright lyrical at times. But it was always on policy grounds, and I respected that – tough but fair. You were just as hard on the other candidates.

sulla on August 25, 2008 at 10:00 PM

put a c in front of this

nn.com/ELECTION/2008/candidates/

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 10:01 PM

That’s about as idiotic an argument as I’ve heard all day.

TheBigOldDog on August 25, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Wow. I’m just… speechless. This is basic civics. Let’s go through this one at a time…

1) It was a judicial opinion, not a law voted upon by the legislature.

2) The executive branch IS supposed to uphold the law… as enacted by the legislature, representatives of the people.

3) If you read the Federalist papers regarding the organization of our Federal Government, you would realize that the branches are NOT equal… they never were, and were never intended to be. There are checks and balances, but the legislature is first, then the executive, then the judiciary. You can determine this through their powers of who can impeach, censure, etc.

4) The state judiciary overstepped its constitutional powers (sworn to by its members upon taking office) in trying to force a new law. This should have gone back to the legislature to enact. The executive branch does not come into play until this become law through the constitutional channels.

And yet, you called me names…? What has happened to HA?

dominigan on August 25, 2008 at 10:01 PM

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 10:00 PM

Chakra:
It took Huckabee months of after-school sessions and coddling by his best bud McCain to even get 278. Romney raised millions for the RNC while Schmuck wallowed in self-indulgence. Context really sucks.

Cold Steel on August 25, 2008 at 10:02 PM

* TOTAL DELEGATES Needed to Win 1,191

John McCain 1,575

Mike Huckabee 278

Mitt Romney 271

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 10:00 PM

Yea, and if Mike had exited gracefully when and like Mitt did, he would have been 3rd. The ONLY reason he stayed in so long was so he could say “pick me John, I came in second.”

Mitt at least had the decency to exit so the party would not be divided (i.e., like the Dems are now).

stenwin77 on August 25, 2008 at 10:03 PM

According to Human Events, Romney was ranked the #8 RINO. Huckabee did not make the list at all. I am sure Huckabee is on some RINO list somewhere but there is always two sides to every story.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 9:58 PM

You mean like when Huckabee made the the “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians” for 2007 list?

sulla on August 25, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Every time Huckabee opens his mouth, he gives another reason he should never be anywhere near the Oval Office. I blame Chuck Norris for endorsing him, throwing him from second tier to first tier status overnight. Had it not been for that endorsement, Mitt Romney would be accepting the nomination next week instead of hoping for the second spot. Screwed over again by Hollywood.

Tommy_G on August 25, 2008 at 10:05 PM

dominigan on August 25, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Naaah, it’s just to piss off folks like you. Either that or we’re in league with the Jooooooos. Eh, both work for me.

Now as for Huck, he’s a moron I’d never vote for. I’m not a fan of Romney but I can accept him as Veep. Huck? NEVER!

JohnAGJ on August 25, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Hollowpoint on August 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Hooray for Hollow-point!

Succinct and rife with imagery. I want to be like you someday…just like you.

trailboss on August 25, 2008 at 9:56 PM

Careful, and remember that the purpose of a Hollowpoint is to open a BIG HOLE with a powerful impact. If you’re going to argue with Hollowpoint, don’t bother “beating around the bush” and you better bring the correct ammuntion.

Rovin on August 25, 2008 at 10:05 PM

You mean like when Huckabee made the the “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians” for 2007 list?

sulla on August 25, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Sure, but what they failed to state was that all of those complaints were dismissed except for one that was later over turned on appeal. There was another since then that ended in a letter but no other discipline. What they also failed to mention was that pretty much anyone could file a complaint in Arkansas. So anyone that had a bone to pick could file a complaint.

jparks1972 on August 25, 2008 at 10:06 PM

I blame Chuck Norris for endorsing him, throwing him from second tier to first tier status overnight. Had it not been for that endorsement, Mitt Romney would be accepting the nomination next week instead of hoping for the second spot. Screwed over again by Hollywood.

Tommy_G on August 25, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Oh oh, let’s not pull Chuck into this…

trailboss on August 25, 2008 at 10:07 PM

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