Huckabee: Romney should have ignored the Massachusetts Supreme Court’s ruling on gay marriage
posted at 7:36 pm on August 25, 2008 by Allahpundit
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It comes at 30:45, right after he finishes wondering what the difference is between men marrying men and people marrying animals. (Er, consent?) This plays well with the base and no doubt he’ll enjoy the extra venom it earns him from Team Mitt, but I think he’s dead wrong. Where’s the line? If the governor gets to pick and choose which rulings to enforce, we’re forever on the brink of a constitutional crisis. In fact, if Eisenhower had followed this advice, schools wouldn’t have been desegregated after Brown. What he’s suggesting, actually, in the name of empowering the people is making the judiciary nothing more than an arm of the executive. If that’s the government you want, okay, but in that case you might as well go the whole nine yards and abolish judicial review by constitutional amendment. Short of that, you’re not without options. The governor can campaign for an amendment to overturn an unpopular decision or, in states where judges are elected, to get them tossed out and replaced with ones who’ll vote the way the majority wants. Exit question: The Huck approach or the Romney approach? Click the image to watch.
Update: Good question: “Note that Huckabee’s excuse for soliciting additional taxes — any additional tax schemes; they were all ‘all right by me,’ as he said — was that he was compelled by a state court decision to do so. (Actually, he wasn’t quite, but let’s pretend he was.) How come you didn’t just defy the courts yourself, Huck?”
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Never mind Huckabee,where is Vice Presidential nominee
Mitt Romney!!:)
canopfor on August 25, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Huckadoodle showing why he should never seriously be considered for CinC.
sven10077 on August 25, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Huck is a psychopath.
davenp35 on August 25, 2008 at 7:39 PM
He may be wrong, but this is another reason that McCain shouldn’t pick Mitt, we don’t need the division that’s so apparent in the Democratic party right now
spacekicker on August 25, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Oh please.
Mitt did everything he could. I live in MA, and I remember Mitt standing shoulder to shoulder with protesters and chanting “LET US VOTE”.
Why do people even bother with Hucksterbee. He is an annoying little man.
Borislav on August 25, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Hucka-phony makes me sick!
mariloubaker on August 25, 2008 at 7:40 PM
What is this guy trying to do? What a jerk.
AbaddonsReign on August 25, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Mmmmmm. Squirrel.
Exurban Jon on August 25, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Huckabee is actually a liberal pretending to be a conservative to make Christians look as stupid as the liberals always say we are.
You heard it here first.
frankj on August 25, 2008 at 7:41 PM
He really needs to quit with the Romney-bashing already.
CP on August 25, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Huckabee = Populist Poindexter!
FloridaBill on August 25, 2008 at 7:42 PM
I predict 356 comments in this thread.
carbon_footprint on August 25, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Pawlenty!
Romney for US Senate.
funky chicken on August 25, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Hmmm. When you get down to the policies promoted by much of the socially conservative base, the line between the judiciary and the executive gets pretty blurry.
Big S on August 25, 2008 at 7:43 PM
The Huchsters is really looking like an “angry ol’ white man” right about now.
Shut the F-up you stupid fool…
Keemo on August 25, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Huckabee is clueless. Serious leaders know that if they do not follow the rules, they can be without followers very quickly.
A conservative friend of mine was on Huckabee’s staff as a political adviser, and he quit early in the Huckabee administration in Arkansas.
Right_of_Attila on August 25, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Huckabee is becoming the political equivalent of herpes, the gift that keeps on giving long after the giver is gone….
And equally incurable is seems.
TBinSTL on August 25, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Thank for playing our game Mike, we do have some lovely parting gifts for you
jjshaka on August 25, 2008 at 7:44 PM
huckawho?…
ocbrat on August 25, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Yeah, it’s well beyond obsession at this point. You lost, Huckster. Deal with it.
ReubenJCogburn on August 25, 2008 at 7:44 PM
It does not exist. Mike Huckabee is not like Hillary Clinton, he is like Mike Gavel.
Romney is very well liked and well Respected by MOST Republicans. See the poll showing a McCain/Romney ticket beating Obama/Biden in Michigan by 18 points.
This is far better than all other McCain/VP polled.
Elizabetty on August 25, 2008 at 7:45 PM
Hey , where is that thread killer C.Hammer- he’s late!
jjshaka on August 25, 2008 at 7:46 PM
You give Huckabee way too much credit. He’s not important enough to cause division in the Republican party. Besides, McCain has that covered.
ctmom on August 25, 2008 at 7:46 PM
All this talk of popcorn in the other threads and suddenly Huckabee shows up.
If I throw a stickIf I shoot a squirrel, Huck, will you put it in your popper and go away?innominatus on August 25, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Mike Huckabee is an embarrassment to this party and to us Evangelicals.
Shame on him.
Elizabetty on August 25, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Isn’t the flipside of this that as far as Huckabee is concerned, Gavin Newsom was OK in 2004 defying the will of the California people with his attempt to allow gay marriage in San Francisco? (Which the California Supreme Court later voided, before doing their 180 on the issue this year.)
Ed Driscoll on August 25, 2008 at 7:46 PM
spacekicker on August 25, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Yeah let’s cave to the Huckster. I am following his lead. Ah, no. I don’t have a dog in the V.P. battle……except Huckabee.
Cindy Munford on August 25, 2008 at 7:46 PM
I am not watching it. Huck needs to just fall off the face of the earth for a while.
upinak on August 25, 2008 at 7:47 PM
What an asshole.
How the F#%k was Romney supposed to ignore the ruling? It’s not like HE was performing the marriages.
rockmom on August 25, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Why didn’t he ignore judges when he was govenor?
boomer on August 25, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Consent is irrelevant. We can eat animals, skin them for clothing, condemn them to a life of slavery, but marrying them is suddenly a heinous crime? Please.
Darth Executor on August 25, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Ah Snake Oil Huck,
Why So Serious?
TheJoker on August 25, 2008 at 7:48 PM
There, out in the darkness
A fugitive running
Fallen from grace
Fallen from grace
God be my witness
I never shall yield
Till we come face to face
Till we come face to face
That’s what I’m reminded of everytime I see another “Huck bashes Romney” story. Let it go, dude. He’s so over you.
Slublog on August 25, 2008 at 7:48 PM
As another Massachusetts citizen, John Adams once said, we are, “a nation of laws, not men.”
TheBigOldDog on August 25, 2008 at 7:48 PM
Totally robbed that thought from my head. Huck’s just jealous we’re popping all this corn for PUMAfest 08 and we haven’t offered to fry him up some squirrel.
Anna on August 25, 2008 at 7:48 PM
Hey, who needs the rule of law? If you don’t like a law, don’t enforce it. Refuse to obey it. That oath you take as a Governor to uphold the law? Forget it.
Wasn’t that his whole shtick on illegal immigration while in Arkansas?
Marking Time on August 25, 2008 at 7:49 PM
I live in MA and I also think Romney should have ignored the ruling. The way I saw it the courts found nothing in the law or state constitution that specifically stated that same sex marriage was not allowed. That was a good and correct ruling but then they decide to go further and order the legislators to pass a law allowing same sex marriage. That was wrong and nothing more than backdoor legislation from the bench. Romney was well within his rights as governor to ignore such an overreaching order. What should have taken place was a ballot question that would have allowed same sex marriage but that would most likely have been rejected by the voters. So the way I see it same sex marriage was shoved down our throats whether we wanted it or not.
jmarcure on August 25, 2008 at 7:49 PM
What a douche. Go back to the fat-farm Mikey.
LDS-DS (Latter Day Saints Derangement Syndrome).
omnipotent on August 25, 2008 at 7:49 PM
What base does this play well with?
lorien1973 on August 25, 2008 at 7:49 PM
I’d like to see what DemoUnderground would have to say about these comments. They assume we all feel the same as Huckabee. Which is why I would love to shove this snarky has-been under Romney’s bus.
leftnomore on August 25, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Good old Hokeybee! What a phony!
Gatordoug on August 25, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Why does 2 dudes or 2 ladies who want to marry bug you? It doesn’t diminish your marriage in the slightest.
lorien1973 on August 25, 2008 at 7:50 PM
I respect you and you have no reason to use that language.
Gonna wash your mouth out with soap.
carbon_footprint on August 25, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Mmmmm……..slave-burger.
omnipotent on August 25, 2008 at 7:51 PM
If I was McCain I would use this as an excuse to rip his primetime speaking slot.
This jackass will recreate Pat Buchannan 1992 speech debacle for his own egomanical glorification
jjshaka on August 25, 2008 at 7:51 PM
he did ignore the judges, dont you remember all those pardons? more than all the adjacent states combined in his time as governor.
chasdal on August 25, 2008 at 7:52 PM
So how does Huck feel about Gavin Newsome thumbing his nose continually at federal and state laws he doesn’t feel San Fransicko should follow? You cool with that Huckster?
Sugar Land on August 25, 2008 at 7:52 PM
The tears of oppression taste better than cooked fat!
lorien1973 on August 25, 2008 at 7:52 PM
maybe, but not by Romney.
ctmom on August 25, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Same reason Bush hasn’t ignored the SCOTUS on any of its decisions he didn’t like. We are a nation of laws, not men.
TheBigOldDog on August 25, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Another lame liberal republican primary clown show redux. God, I miss conservatives.
Fletch54 on August 25, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Ugh! Just go away, Shmuckabee! I for one, am sick of both him and Pat Buchanan (and yes, I am a member of the Republican base).
Dariaanne on August 25, 2008 at 7:54 PM
put it on the ballot and let the people decide. Mass. wouldnt do that. the legislature kept it off the ballot.
chasdal on August 25, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Mike Huckabee: all the wrong answers, all the time.
Andrew D on August 25, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Enough with the sexy talk.
muyoso on August 25, 2008 at 7:56 PM
I think a better analogy would be a brother marrying his sister and having offspring.
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 7:56 PM
Its not for voters to decide what legal contracts (re: civil) two consenting adults enter in to. If churches don’t want to host the ceremony part; cool. But if two adults want to sign a marriage certificate, who cares.
lorien1973 on August 25, 2008 at 7:56 PM
Hey guys! Is this the Mike Huckabee appreciation thread?
carbon_footprint on August 25, 2008 at 7:56 PM
Because it doesn’t stop there. They want to push their whole agenda down our throats as well. They want to teach our children that it is normal and natural for Mary to have two mommies when It is up to responsible parents to teach their children about homosexuality, not government and schools.
ctmom on August 25, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Mitt Romney scoured the Massachusetts law books and came up with a law from 1909 that stated a person could not get married in Mass if that marriage would be illegal in their home state.
This prevented MASS from turning into a Mecca for gay marriages and got the Gay Marriage Lobby very, very angry with him.
Then Mitt Romney stood outside the state house with a crowd and yelled, “LET THE PEOPLE VOTE”
Mitt was a pro-marriage warrior during that time and has been given awards from Mass pro-family and pro-life groups for his hard work on their behalf.
Elizabetty on August 25, 2008 at 7:57 PM
I may disagree with you in the other thread, but funny is funny!~
carbon_footprint on August 25, 2008 at 7:57 PM
So your real goal should be that schools should be teaching: reading, math, science and leaving social stuff to the parents, right?
So if schools did that – didn’t force a belief system onto you – I’d assume you were cool with it?
lorien1973 on August 25, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Let’s just get rid of
the judicial branchall three branches and make Huckabee the Supreme Ruler of the Universe./sarc
malan89 on August 25, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Jeffrey: Right, but Governor Romney actually went ahead and certified same-sex marriages without an act of his state legislature.
Huckabee: It should never have happened. It should never have happened. And while we want to blame the courts—
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Huckabee.
Why this guy is still around is beyond me.
Virginia Shanahan on August 25, 2008 at 8:02 PM
The High Reverend Huckster clearly has some kind of twisted crush on Romney. Maybe Bobby Jindal could do an exorcism on him.
MB4 on August 25, 2008 at 8:02 PM
Why is this guy still talking?
The Ugly American on August 25, 2008 at 8:02 PM
Pass me the pepper and the oppression tears, please. My squirrel tastes a little gamey.
And I’m pretty sure my cats are the ones that have enslaved me… I do believe I’m the one that cleans up their poo, not the other way around.
Anna on August 25, 2008 at 8:02 PM
The People of Massachusetts did their job of getting the required number of signatures for a constitutional amendment to be place on the ballot. The Democratic leadership, aided by Obama’s buddy Deval Patrick, broke the law by not allowing the legally mandatory legislative vote (the next step in the process). The State Supreme Court then order them to vote. Deval used that time to buy votes in the Legislature (quite brazenly I might add) and the Gay lobby used intimidation tactics to swing enough votes to ensure when the vote finally came the amendment failed.
TheBigOldDog on August 25, 2008 at 8:02 PM
I don’t know why Huck has such a strong dislike for Mitt. He needs to remember and practice Ronald Reagan’s 11th Commandment: “Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican.”
Boomer Sooner on August 25, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Agreed!
Anna on August 25, 2008 at 8:04 PM
That is between them and their God. Its not my place to judge them.
ctmom on August 25, 2008 at 8:04 PM
They’re creepy and they’re greedy,
Mormon thumping and spooky,
They’re all together sicky,
The Huckabee Family
Their back yard is a dead dog museum
When people come to see ‘em
They really will a scream
The Huckabee Family
(They’re not Neat)
(They’re not Sweet)
(And they’re sure not Petite!!!)
So get a gift givers shawl on
A collection plate you can bring contributions on
We’re gonna pay a call on
The Huckabee Family
MB4 on August 25, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Jealousy rears its ugly head again…and again…and again…and again….. Oh, and did I mention he’s a bigot?
Huck, you repulsive bastard.
Cody1991 on August 25, 2008 at 8:05 PM
Mike Huckabee does not care about the Republican Party, just Mike Huckabee.
Elizabetty on August 25, 2008 at 8:05 PM
It’s Lindsay. Tellin’ ya right now.
McCain, a SB like Huckastar, hates Mormons. Picking Romney would certify a loss because more conservatives will be lost than won.
Besides, he should be prez.
Four years of Odreama will guarantee a Jindal win in ‘12 IF – a big IF – Obamaslamma doesn’t declare himself de Fuhrer
klickink.wordpress.com on August 25, 2008 at 8:05 PM
Man, just when you thought Hucks quest to stay relevant couldn’t get any more pathetic, suprise, here he is again.
I lived in Mass for about 20 years until recently when I just couldn’t stand it any more. You’d be hard pressed to find a more liberal, lopsided, screwed up state legislature than Mass. This is what you get with no checks and balances and Dems with free reign. That state is totally F@#ked up.
Geronimo on August 25, 2008 at 8:05 PM
Why do social conservatives go out of their way to be intolerant pricks? Serious question.
philnewkirk on August 25, 2008 at 8:06 PM
I hate you
KennyHucky./cartman
Cuffy Meigs on August 25, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Huck, for the love of God, please just go away.
You’ll never be president. You’ll never be vice president.
Just stop.
Now.
Et tu Brute on August 25, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Romney and Huckabee now i know why they hare each other!
They both are going for the varmint hunter vote!
Romney claims to be a life-long varmint hunter that never held a hunting license and Huckabee says that eats fried squirrel.. ish..
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Hmmmm?
Maybe Mr.Huckabee has perhaps some inside knowledge of the McCain Veep selection.
Reeking of sour grapes + nice McCain/Romney Michigan poll= winnar!
jjshaka on August 25, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Romney and Huckabee now i know why they hate each other!
They both are going for the varmint hunter vote!
Romney claims to be a life-long varmint hunter that never held a hunting license and Huckabee says that eats fried squirrel.. ish..
Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 8:07 PM
You know what the solution to that “problem” is? Get rid of government sponsored schools. Move to an all voucher, free market system. Let people choose what they want their kids to be taught. Problem solved.
————————
I have a question for everyone anti-gay marriage here. If you think marriage is a religious institution, shouldn’t the real merit be in the religious ceremony performed? The marriage license is just a piece of paper–a legal agreement that any two people should legally be able to enter into. Who do you think has the right to define marriage–the state or individuals and their spiritual guides (no matter who they may be)? Why don’t we just call all marriage licenses “civil union papers” and allow people to form their own opinion on what is and isn’t a marriage? I think it’s fair to say that people on the anti gay marriage side of the coin are taking the liberal “big government” position.
malan89 on August 25, 2008 at 8:08 PM
“Hey! Look over here! Me me me, remember me? I’m still relevant! Heeeeeeeeyyyy”!
Huckaboob’s lust for attention is almost as bad as Obama’s.
Steiner on August 25, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Who? Huck a who?
Bishop on August 25, 2008 at 8:09 PM
For an Evangelical minister Huck is carrying some serious hatred.
F15Mech on August 25, 2008 at 8:10 PM
I hear your pain brother.
Where about in the Commonwealth did you suffer?
I was in the Brockton area for many years before I bailed.
Et tu Brute on August 25, 2008 at 8:11 PM
My point was that it was a bad ruling because it is legislating from the bench. I said nothing, got that, NOTHING, about my position on gay marriage and you have some pretty big ones to attack me as a homophobe because I didn’t like the ruling. In fact where the hell do you get off accusing me of anything based on my remarks? I am so freaking tired of the righteous pro-gay people attacking anyone that criticizes the gay political agenda. How does shoving gay m
jmarcure on August 25, 2008 at 8:11 PM
I voted for the guy and eventhough I’m not a fan of Romney, I think Huck as a former pastor at least should let go of these petty grudges. Its pathetic. This is why he’s not presidential material.
justinok on August 25, 2008 at 8:11 PM
or maybe envy not really sure what his deal is.
F15Mech on August 25, 2008 at 8:11 PM
Populist demagogue?
Vatican Watcher on August 25, 2008 at 8:11 PM
The legislature gets to determine what is Constitutional every time it passes a law. The Judicial branch gets to determine what is Constitutional when it makes a decision. The executive branch determines what is Constitutional when it enforces a law. All three branches have constitutional interpretational authority and responsibility.
Nothing in the constitution gives the judiciary the power to be the final arbiter of what is constitutional. That is a power it has assumed for itself. We have capitulated to this assumption of power due to the courts power of persuasion. If the court decides in a way that undermines its power of persuasion, it jeopardizes its assumed power to be the final arbiter of what is constitution. It gets to decide, not because it is the Decider, because heretofore, the other branches have allowed the judiciary to decide.
tommylotto on August 25, 2008 at 8:11 PM
What? No kitty!?!?
carbon_footprint on August 25, 2008 at 8:13 PM
Where’s the not-so-saintly Olaf? He usually shows up to throw around the Huck love and the Romney hate.
drflykilla on August 25, 2008 at 8:13 PM
Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!
Tell her what she’s won Hugh!
Tony Soprano on August 25, 2008 at 8:14 PM
That 11th Commandment sure doesn’t extend to Huckabee, though, does it?
I voted for him (in PA… I wasn’t going to vote for McCain or Ron Paul). I understand some deserved criticism for his “maverick-y-ness” but what about Romney? I can’t fathom what it is that makes people who rightly oppose this massive federal takeover of 13% of the nation’s economy go weak in the knees over a man whose greatest achievement is socialized health care.
Keep hating Huck if you like, but for better or for worse a Romney on the ticket will not play as well to the base as many seem to think.
bcm4134 on August 25, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Huckawho?
klickink.wordpress.com on August 25, 2008 at 8:15 PM
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