Tim Kaine: Biden comes from a state that borders Virginia
posted at 7:00 pm on August 24, 2008 by Allahpundit
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There are gaffes and there are gaffes. Obama declaring Eau Claire, Wisconsin, the 51st 58th state? A gaffe, silly and harmless. The governor of Virginia not knowing where his own state’s borders are? A gaffe, and not the first Quayle-esque moment he’s had lately. So unlikely is this, in fact, that even after checking multiple maps I’m still not convinced he could have blown it. Surely there’s some stray island that belongs to Delaware in sufficient proximity to northern Virginia that he’s got some cover here, no? Or does sharing a peninsula now qualify as “bordering”? Proof positive that as prone as Biden is to verbal mishaps, it could have been worse.
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Which of the 57 states really do border Virginia?
jgapinoy on August 24, 2008 at 7:01 PM
“I’m a governor, not a geography teacher!”
jgapinoy on August 24, 2008 at 7:02 PM
I guess Maryland got downgraded like Fay.
sven10077 on August 24, 2008 at 7:02 PM
Kaine screws up again. Sigh. The good news is he can’t be re-elected.
NaCly dog on August 24, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Of course you have Joe Biden saying people will vote for him in the South because he is a senator from a slave state.
William Amos on August 24, 2008 at 7:04 PM
I haven’t lived in VA for 28 yrs, yet I know their geography better than their governor? He’s talking about Maryland on what they call the Eastern Shore.
jgapinoy on August 24, 2008 at 7:06 PM
I think East Maryland might be one of them.
Red Cloud on August 24, 2008 at 7:06 PM
I’m going to be totally honest here and say that I get Maryland and Delaware confused all of the time, and I used to live in Northern Virginia and DC…. So it’s possible that Kaine, the governor of Virginia, made the same…mistake…yeah…that’s it.
Having said that, I’m a Californian and don’t understand why Delaware is even a state. Delawarians should have to justify their existence, as far as I’m concerned.
Nessuno on August 24, 2008 at 7:06 PM
It’s at times like this that I’m glad we restrict governors to a single term here in Virginia.
What a freakin’ genius.
flipflop on August 24, 2008 at 7:07 PM
because if it weren’t a state Barry would be even further off….
sven10077 on August 24, 2008 at 7:08 PM
And people believe this man and Warner will lead Virginia to vote for Obama? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
SouthernGent on August 24, 2008 at 7:08 PM
You know who benefits from this?
Mitt Romney because he is smarter than all the democrats in positions of power combined.
(I am only slightly kidding)
EJDolbow on August 24, 2008 at 7:08 PM
Maybe he thinks West Virginia is just a region of Virginia? Can’t figure out why he didn’t carry Charleston and Morgantown in the last election?
Wethal on August 24, 2008 at 7:08 PM
That not the Delaware that I knew
William Amos on August 24, 2008 at 7:09 PM
Well, it’s still a bigger state area-wise than Rhode Island, and they have a larger population than 5 other states. But, still…
flipflop on August 24, 2008 at 7:10 PM
I love my northern breathern and sisters, but when Biden says Delaware is really a southern state and not a northeastern liberal state I am amused. I have lived my entire life in the mid-south and I can say with confidence most of us see Delaware no differently than Vermont.
JonRoss on August 24, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Yes, laugh it up. My governor is an idiot. A complete and total idiot. But at least I can say I didn’t vote for him.
thekingtut on August 24, 2008 at 7:12 PM
And when Biden mentions Delaware was a slave state he is smearing Southreners (my grandmother’s spelling). Its as if he is kinda winking at us when he says it. Insulting.
JonRoss on August 24, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Surely you are not serious. You think Delaware shouldn’t be state why? Because of its size?
It was the first state in the Union. Does that account for something in your book?
Do you know why they call it the Diamond State? There is a lot of Wealth in those 3 counties.
I am from Georgia which is the largest state east of the Mississippi (Land wise) and I see no reason whatsoever to pick on our First State like that.
EJDolbow on August 24, 2008 at 7:13 PM
We were the First State, and we have no sales tax. Also, George Thoroughgood was from Delaware.
Beat that, Cali.
Of course, having been born and raised on Delmarva, I’ve been convinced everything south of the C&D canal should be one state, and give Cecil County MD and Wilmington to PA.
And yes, DE was a slave state. Not everybody owned, there were several stops on the Underground Railroad, but slaves lived, worked, and died there.
Kaine, btw, is an idiot. And so is anyone else who does not know where Delaware is.
Anna on August 24, 2008 at 7:13 PM
I have much empathy. The Goracle was my senator for a while.
JonRoss on August 24, 2008 at 7:13 PM
It’s Delawarean, asshole.
Akzed on August 24, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Where in hell do the voters dig up these dolts? Each election cycle we add more and more idiots to our governing elite. The poor Republic is sick, sick, sick.
rplat on August 24, 2008 at 7:14 PM
But everybody knows West Kentucky voted for Obama 97% to 3% for Hillary.
EJDolbow on August 24, 2008 at 7:14 PM
Thank you.
Anna on August 24, 2008 at 7:14 PM
To fill in the meaning on AP’s use of “Quayle-esque moment”, the first hit on googling quayle california arizona:
Except Quayle didn’t say Phoenix was in California. The inference (except by the silly left) is that he grew up near California and so presumably spent some time there. But what Kaine is saying is incredible, as he’s the gov of Virginia. Pretty amazing really.
Paul-Cincy on August 24, 2008 at 7:14 PM
Shouldn’t it be De La Warean ?
JonRoss on August 24, 2008 at 7:15 PM
I was so mad, I missed that! *slaps head*
Anna on August 24, 2008 at 7:15 PM
You are welcome. I think Delaware ROCKS!
EJDolbow on August 24, 2008 at 7:16 PM
Correction: Fourth Grade Social Studies.
Vizzini on August 24, 2008 at 7:17 PM
It does rock! Even though I joined the Navy to see the world, I will always love my state. Except the northern part, but that’s a Slower Lower Delaware thing. I know just about every backroad, every little one-stoplight town. : )
Anna on August 24, 2008 at 7:18 PM
By Nov. 04, 2008, Delaware will be the size of Texas.
Entelechy on August 24, 2008 at 7:18 PM
I wanted him because he looks so much like Tim Conway. Does Kaine do “little old man” or Mr. Tuddball?
Marcus on August 24, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Delaware was originally three counties of PA. June 14th, Separation Day, celebrates DE’s independence from both England and PA.
Akzed on August 24, 2008 at 7:20 PM
So Kaine will not be on the celebrity edition of “Are You Smarter than a Fifthgrader?”
Wethal on August 24, 2008 at 7:21 PM
I saw we split California if DC is ever allowed statehood (god help us!). The loons can have San Fransicko on north. The more normal (by Cali standards) can have the rest.
SouthernGent on August 24, 2008 at 7:22 PM
same, lol
i cant wait till his buddy wilder leaves the mayor seat of richmond.
trailortrash on August 24, 2008 at 7:24 PM
To JonRoss – no, Delaware is not a modern Southern state. It’s Mid-Atlantic. However, before the Civil War, it was a border state to the South, meaning politically and socially, it was a mix of both cultures (same with MD). After Lincoln’s stunt in Baltimore, Delaware was aligned with the Union, and now is considered to be far removed from Southern culture.
However, it is a rural state, at least, the bottom counties. In fact, things didn’t start picking up until after the Bay Bridge was built in the 1950’s, allowing more tourists to swamp our state. The people of Kent and especially Sussex counties have more in common with the Southern way of life than you’d think (and metro Wilmington is the opposite). It’s small, but I’ve always maintained it’s a microcosim (sp?) of the East Coast at large.
Biden is an idiot for a million reasons, and he’s not even really a Delawarean. He’s from Pennsylvania, a transplant.
Anna on August 24, 2008 at 7:26 PM
Tim! The states that border Virginia are North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Maryland, and West (thank God) Virginia. Can we remove him from office for being stupid?
thekingtut on August 24, 2008 at 7:26 PM
Nope.
As far as I can tell, it’s a “city” and some suburbs that calls itself a state. It’s main impact on the nation is from providing legal safe-harbor for corporations and taxing (by confiscatory tolls) motorists who are driving up and down the seaboard.
Ok, it has population more than 5 other states, but most of those states have more land area to control. But, yeah, Delaware has more reason to exist than Vermont.
Congratulations.
Nessuno on August 24, 2008 at 7:27 PM
You a native too?
Anna on August 24, 2008 at 7:27 PM
I wonder if he thinks the state of DC also borders VA?
F15Mech on August 24, 2008 at 7:28 PM
It’s called the DELMARVA Peninsula for a reason! And that’s the order your travel through them…
Delaware, Maryland and Virginia.
What an idiot…
Corky on August 24, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Not only is this idiot the governor of my former home, we are soon to have TWO Democratic senators. What a world what a world. I may have to rethink my return and go to Moyock, N.C. instead.
Cindy Munford on August 24, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Kaine is talking about the Eastern Shore which is, like the rest of Virginia, separated from Delaware by Maryland.
It's Vintage, Duh on August 24, 2008 at 7:30 PM
Well, hell, what’s the purpose of having two Dakotas? Or two Carolinas? Let’s just start rearraigning land and borders because we don’t like having to pay a few bucks to drive 7 miles on I95 (or whatever). Look, Delaware’s been around for a long time, and it has just as much reason to exist as any other state.
Sheesh.
Anna on August 24, 2008 at 7:30 PM
He’s not the only one. Remember when Obama tried to blame his huge loss in Kentucky on the fact that Hillary was from the neighboring state of Arkansas?
Big S on August 24, 2008 at 7:30 PM
I just spent an hour sitting on I-95 in Delaware, on the way back from Maryland. Believe me, it is not close to Virginia.
I never thought that, politically speaking, I would be glad that I do not live in Virginia anymore. But good grief, Tim Kaine is a dumbass.
rockmom on August 24, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Sure sign of genius: build elevated roads and homes near fault lines.
Akzed on August 24, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Question for you.
RushBaby on August 24, 2008 at 7:32 PM
Congratulations.
You are foolish and infantile.
Congratulations to you.
EJDolbow on August 24, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Oooooo–good one.
jgapinoy on August 24, 2008 at 7:33 PM
: )
Anna on August 24, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Been here twelve years. Nice small towns, good music everywere, an hour from Philly or B’more, livin large.
Akzed on August 24, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Everyone in the PHX area knows exactly what Quayle meant. CA & CO are the places we go to escape the triple-digit summer heat.
jgapinoy on August 24, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Hey! The people of the northern counties have done nothing to deserve being stuck with the loons who run the Bay Area.
“Cali.” Ugh. How would you like us to call Georgia “Geo” or Mississippi “Missi?”
irishspy on August 24, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Sweet. My family is from Roxana (near the beaches), went to most of grade/high school just south of Dover. Technically, I wasn’t born there, the closest hospital was in Salisbury, MD at the time.
Anna on August 24, 2008 at 7:37 PM
I like it right well, it’s like the suburbs of Baltimore or Philly in which I’ve lived too, lots of culture nearby, plenty of pro sports, concerts, great restaraunts in Wilmington and Newark, I mean, I don’t know where else you would have so much to do by driving less than an hour in any direction, the Chesapeake and Delaware Bays right down the road, two hours to the ocean. I mean, it really is a Small Wonder (not to mention home of tax free shopping).
Akzed on August 24, 2008 at 7:44 PM
american first whatever else second
elBarto on August 24, 2008 at 7:47 PM
As a proud recent immigrant to the Inland Empire (central Southern Kaleeforneeyah), but a lifetime resident of the state, I’m in favor of breaking it into pieces now rather than waiting for nature to do the job for us. 5 or 6 states would probably do the job.
CK MacLeod on August 24, 2008 at 7:47 PM
^ ^ Just don’t get caught on the Delaware Turnpike on a Sunday afternoon. Grrrrrrrrr
rockmom on August 24, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Chris Wallace wasn’t on top of it either because he didn’t remind the culprit of failing local geography, out of zealotry.
Entelechy on August 24, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Did anyone else think that Gov. Kaine looked a little teary when Chris Wallace mentioned that he had been under consideration for the V.P. slot. I think Mr. Wallace was reaching for the Kleenex.
Cindy Munford on August 24, 2008 at 7:48 PM
I’m wondering,…………….. what kind of pay grade does Virginia have over Delaware?
Seven Percent Solution on August 24, 2008 at 7:48 PM
Delaware will not influence other states that boarder it. Delaware is a small state that doesn’t have any impact on the general election. It is the worst choice Obama could have made for VP.
jdun on August 24, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Paging Miss Carolina!
- The Cat
P.S. Seriously, get the heck on over to my house girl.
MirCat on August 24, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Governor Kaine, please remember to vote on November 5th. November 5th is the special day just for you.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Maybe this is where he learned geography?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 24, 2008 at 7:54 PM
MirCat on August 24, 2008 at 7:50 PM
I love Carolina. We use to vacation in the Outer Banks. I need to stay close to the border though because we have older family that we will need to be able to get to quick.
Cindy Munford on August 24, 2008 at 7:55 PM
so how many Virginians are on here?
I just moved here from Michigan in May..
DaveC on August 24, 2008 at 7:55 PM
When has Uuuuuuhbama done anything that’s made sense in this campaign?
thekingtut on August 24, 2008 at 7:57 PM
I haven’t been to Delaware (at least I don’t think I have–when you’re on a bus you don’t always pay attention to where you are, but I am pretty sure DE doesn’t touch VA), but I have been to Virginia, which was lovely, except the locals were way too impressed that I was from California. Ummm…I’m from Sacramento, and it’s, like, 100 miles from the ocean so I don’t like, surf, no.
Those of us from large Western states have a hard time getting the hang of the small Atlantic states because we have back yards bigger than some of them. A state with only 3 counties just seems small! When I retire I am going to drive through all of them and enjoy every minute of it.
Bob's Kid on August 24, 2008 at 7:58 PM
I’m from the Commonwealth of Virginia.
thekingtut on August 24, 2008 at 8:01 PM
DaveC on August 24, 2008 at 7:55 PM
I was born and bred in Virginia Beach. I have been in Florida for ten years and plan to move back pretty soon. The housing market is so slow in Florida right now. I don’t know where you are but I hope you like it.
Cindy Munford on August 24, 2008 at 8:01 PM
lived in Wyoming and Arizona for about 10 years each.. now I’m in Virginia.. one thing I do not like about it.. the speed limits.. what is considered 75 in AZ or WY, i’ts 60 here… it’s maddening.
DaveC on August 24, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Colonial Heights.. Good news, it’s not Petersburg :)
DaveC on August 24, 2008 at 8:02 PM
I lived in the People’s Republic of Alexandria for 22 years, before moving to southeastern Pennsylvania in 2004. Spent many a summer on the Delaware shore, and no, Governor Dufus, it does NOT border Virginia!
rockmom on August 24, 2008 at 8:05 PM
Yeah (((Pendejo))), and the United States borders Canada and Mexico…next question?
byteshredder on August 24, 2008 at 8:06 PM
I think it’s cute when the eastcoasters start getting all Napoleonic about the size of the state. Out here in Oregon we have counties that are bigger than that. ‘Course they only have about 5 people in them – the guy that owns the liquor store, a few ranchers, and the freak that hasn’t yet been caught by America’s Most Wanted.
innominatus on August 24, 2008 at 8:11 PM
I love Hot/Air,every night,I’m on a fact finding
mission,or a geography mapping expedition!
So Virginia has a coast,borders West Virginia,
and borders Pennsylvania,cool!
I bet the Left skipped Geography class?:)
canopfor on August 24, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Yea…but does Virginia border Scranton (Drink)?? Because I think Delaware got thrown under the bus yesterday. Maybe that is why the Eyebrow is so confused.
HawaiiLwyr on August 24, 2008 at 8:16 PM
no.. Maryland borders between VA and PA..
although, you can through a rock from VA to PA at the narrow point in Maryland..
DaveC on August 24, 2008 at 8:19 PM
That was funny RB. Of course, I was talking about all the boasting, by the lefties, about little Delaware.
Entelechy on August 24, 2008 at 8:26 PM
Dufus,
rockmom on Aug,24 2008 at 8:05PM.
rockmom:Ya know,I didn’t quite see the great State of
Maryland shoehorned between Pennsylvania and
Virginia,bloody oops!Ugh!
canopfor on August 24, 2008 at 8:26 PM
As much as I love my home state, yeah, it’ll never be of any political importance.
And I’m amazed that I can remember minutia from Delaware history (taught in 4th grade), but I have trouble keeping track of what day it is.
Anna on August 24, 2008 at 8:30 PM
If you drive from Philly to Virginia on I-95 or almost any alternative route, you have to go through both Delaware (briefly) and Maryland.
rockmom on August 24, 2008 at 8:31 PM
:)
RushBaby on August 24, 2008 at 8:31 PM
Seven miles, I believe. We have 7 miles of interstate. And tolls. : )
Anna on August 24, 2008 at 8:35 PM
No..Maryland borders VA and PA.
Dave C on Aug 24,2008 at 8:19PM.
Dave C:Dave,can’t believe I caught myself!
And Deleware is crammed between Maryland
and New Jersey!Interesting!
canopfor on August 24, 2008 at 8:36 PM
DaveC on August 24, 2008 at 8:02 PM
Well the only place I know that people in Virginia drive the speed limit is in Emporia. If your from VA and get a ticket there your dumb butt deserves it. But you are correct, here in Florida we do tend to zip right along.
Take advantage of the history. The part of Florida I am has so much new stuff that I started going through withdraw, not to worry I go to St. Augustine for an old fix.
Cindy Munford on August 24, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Um Pennsylvania or Delaware? Or does he have roots in Massachusetts?
/somebody explained the whole Mason-Dixon line thingie to him, right?
How does such an absolute moron get in to law school? And then pass his courses?
funky chicken on August 24, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Maybe he meant to say that both jurisdictions share Borders locations?
Sgt. Hartman on August 24, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Anna on August 24, 2008 at 8:35 PM
I use to drive to New York from Virginia Beach and go across the Bay Bridge Tunnel. I want to say it is 13 but it has been a long time. You got through Delaware that way also. Briefly.
Cindy Munford on August 24, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Well that explains why he’s accomplished nothing here in Virginia, it’s because he’s not really sure where we are.
Why is the Democrat Party deemed the party of the intelligentsia, when all of the politicians who belong to it prove themselves to be complete dopes whenever they open their stupid mouths and that’s when they’re not caught stealing from the taxpayer with both hands?
NoDonkey on August 24, 2008 at 8:44 PM
What is it with Democrats and geography? Didn’t Obama say that Arkansas bordered Kentucky? I remember he said something like that as a way to explain away his 30+ point loss to Hillary.
In fact Illinois borders Kentucky.
Terrye on August 24, 2008 at 8:46 PM
“Hi…I’m in Delaware…”
Cuffy Meigs on August 24, 2008 at 8:58 PM
“Back for a haircut, Governor? What’ll it be today?”
“Hey Gus. Gimme the Macaroni Penguin.”
Rhinoboy on August 24, 2008 at 9:01 PM
umm, isn’t it safe to say that anytime you drive through Delaware, it’s briefly?
DaveC on August 24, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Dearest Anna, Delaware is lovely. Nothing against any state, and especially not the people of any state. It’s just funny how all is blown out of proportion. Biden is now Hercules from Delaware, but was a scrappy kid from Ohio…or something like that. By Nov. he’ll be from all the states that Howard Dean shouted about.
Entelechy on August 24, 2008 at 9:04 PM
I’m sooooooooo proud he’s the governor of my home state.
Tool
jdsmith0021 on August 24, 2008 at 9:06 PM
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