Tim Kaine: Biden comes from a state that borders Virginia

posted at 7:00 pm on August 24, 2008 by Allahpundit

There are gaffes and there are gaffes. Obama declaring Eau Claire, Wisconsin, the 51st 58th state? A gaffe, silly and harmless. The governor of Virginia not knowing where his own state’s borders are? A gaffe, and not the first Quayle-esque moment he’s had lately. So unlikely is this, in fact, that even after checking multiple maps I’m still not convinced he could have blown it. Surely there’s some stray island that belongs to Delaware in sufficient proximity to northern Virginia that he’s got some cover here, no? Or does sharing a peninsula now qualify as “bordering”? Proof positive that as prone as Biden is to verbal mishaps, it could have been worse.


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Also, Anna, I’m eternally grateful that all states have two senators, and much say in the primaries, and otherwise. If not, the 4-5 biggies would decide everything, everytime.

Entelechy on August 24, 2008 at 9:06 PM

Entelechy on August 24, 2008 at 9:06 PM

love that electoral college.. :)

Wyoming DOES matter..

DaveC on August 24, 2008 at 9:08 PM

Just think – if Russia had not invaded Georgia, this moron would have been Obama’s running mate.

Curse you, Vladimir Putin!

rockmom on August 24, 2008 at 9:08 PM

My state, Nevada has a lovely Pacific ocean coastline, according to the Obama campaign.

Mojave Mark on August 24, 2008 at 9:12 PM

Well, at least he didn’t say that Virginia was apt to vote for Obama “’cause he’s got a purty mouth” or something like that…

Wyznowski on August 24, 2008 at 9:16 PM

Is Kaine signaling his intention to pull a Putin and annex Maryland?

David in ATL on August 24, 2008 at 9:21 PM

There are mayors of about 11 cities who have more constituents than Biden, not including the presidents of 4 out of 5 of NYC’s
boroughs and executives of many counties nationwide.

Biden has probably never received more than 300,000 votes in any election during the past 35 years to win his exalted position. Power to the provincial.

horatio on August 24, 2008 at 9:22 PM

“potatoe” next to Virginia….?

d1carter on August 24, 2008 at 9:26 PM

Hey Timmy Kaine, you’re not in Kansas anymore.

You’d think these carpetbaggers would at least take the time to figure out the lay of the land before they open their Harvard-educated mouths and expose their ignorance.

AZCoyote on August 24, 2008 at 9:29 PM

Who elected this guy? Now you’ve got me wondering about those Virginians.
Come on now redeem yourselves and vote McCain this fall it’s the one with the R behind it if you all can’t read. HeHeHe

dhunter on August 24, 2008 at 9:48 PM

DaveC on August 24, 2008 at 9:04 PM

Trying not to cast stones. Besides I bet I could still get lost.

Cindy Munford on August 24, 2008 at 9:58 PM

Is Kaine signaling his intention to pull a Putin and annex Maryland?

David in ATL on August 24, 2008 at 9:21 PM

Please, its bad enough having Kaine as our governor. We don’t need even more donkeys in our state.

burt on August 24, 2008 at 9:58 PM

DaveC on August 24, 2008 at 9:08 PM

Amen, I cringe when folks talk about getting rid of it. There are people in the large population states who seem to think they should have even more control. Notice how it is usually liberals?

Cindy Munford on August 24, 2008 at 10:01 PM

He probably thought Biden was from Washington D.C. given how long Biden has been there.

BKennedy on August 24, 2008 at 10:27 PM

Oh man, it would have been so sweet if Joe Biden was asked if he could help Obama in Virginia, and he had said that about himself.

chip91 on August 24, 2008 at 10:28 PM

What a dope this Kaine is…

eanax on August 24, 2008 at 10:55 PM

OBAMA-BIDEN IS BORDERING ON A CLIFF…

reliapundit on August 24, 2008 at 11:08 PM

Cindy Munford on August 24, 2008 at 10:01 PM

Only when it suit’s them.. (Bill Clinton won the college, the college is the way to go.. Al Gore won the popular vote, the popular vote is the way to go..)

DaveC on August 25, 2008 at 12:05 AM

Reminds me of Dog Day Afternoon, when Al Pacino tells his accomplice the Feds have agreed to take them safely to any country in the world, so where does he want to go and the fellow says,

“Wyoming.”

tree hugging sister on August 25, 2008 at 12:23 AM

Well, it is close to Virginia. Delaware sits on a peninsula of land called locally DelMarVa which is a conglomeration of Delaware, Maryland and Virginia. If you look at a map, there is a little piece of Virginia at the Southern tip of the peninsula that Delaware is on. Culturally, that piece of Virginia probably has more in common with Sussex County, Delaware than it does with any of the “mainland” Virginia counties. That part of Virginia and the counties of Maryland between it and Delaware are what is referred to as the “Lower Eastern Shore” meaning the Eastern shore of Chesapeake Bay and it has very little in common culturally with either the “Western Shore” or the “Upper Eastern Shore” which would include New Castle County, Delaware and Cecil County, Maryland.

crosspatch on August 25, 2008 at 12:29 AM

Well, it is close to Virginia. Delaware sits on a peninsula of land called locally DelMarVa which is a conglomeration of Delaware, Maryland and Virginia. If you look at a map, there is a little piece of Virginia at the Southern tip of the peninsula that Delaware is on.

Oh Please!

Not even idiot Virginians like NoDonkey could defend Kaine on that logic.

More importantly, the claim is historically without merit. Even when Virginia was claiming parts of Ohio, Michigan and Illinois- they never claimed they abutted Delaware.

highhopes on August 25, 2008 at 12:43 AM

Wyoming DOES matter..

DaveC on August 24, 2008 at 9:08 PM

You’re one of those!

- The Cat

MirCat on August 25, 2008 at 3:03 AM

I’m in favor of breaking it into pieces now rather than waiting for nature to do the job for us. 5 or 6 states would probably do the job.

Hmmm. DC becomes a state, CA splits into 6: 50 + 1 + 6 = 57 states!

These aren’t the 57 states I once knew.

electric-rascal on August 25, 2008 at 3:43 AM

It’s Delawarean, asshole.

Akzed on August 24, 2008 at 7:13 PM

Is Biden a Delaweiner or Delawhiner?

crash72 on August 25, 2008 at 7:11 AM

Who elected this guy? Now you’ve got me wondering about those Virginians.
Come on now redeem yourselves and vote McCain this fall it’s the one with the R behind it if you all can’t read. HeHeHe

dhunter on August 24, 2008 at 9:48 PM

Well, our governor to the contrary, we can read. And even though when we have a democrat governor we generally go repub in the nationals.
Who elected Kaine? You can blame that other Virginia – Northern Virginia. It is heavly populated with libs and they outnumber most of the state. But sometimes south side Virginia gets mobilized and votes R. And in the last two governor races the repubs ran lousy campaigns.
Not all of us are as stupid as our governor.

abcurtis on August 25, 2008 at 7:27 AM

The other states with which the commonwealth of Virginia shares a border, Ohio, Montana, Alaska, and Chinese Taipei were surprised to learn this, as well.

Kevin from Ohio in V on August 25, 2008 at 8:33 AM

although, you can through a rock from VA to PA at the narrow point in Maryland..

DaveC on August 24, 2008 at 8:19 PM

I think you mean West Virginia to PA

Captain Hate on August 25, 2008 at 8:40 AM

Captain Hate on August 25, 2008 at 8:40 AM

it’s the part of the panhandle in Northern Maryland..

where Hancock is.. So you can’t really through a rock from VA to PA across there..

DaveC on August 25, 2008 at 9:00 AM

Both Tim Kaine and Mark Warner are not native Virginians and obviously don’t have full knowledge of the geography of the state. They were bought in to be moderate democrats to appeal to middle of the road conservatives and to help turn a red state into a blue one. They are Dem plants who have succeeded in their goals thus hoodwinking unknowing Virginians who know no better.

Travis1 on August 25, 2008 at 9:18 AM

One of the greatest things about living in Delaware is that you can’t possibly get lost. Drive long enough in any direction and you’ll either end up at a large body of water or another state. Lower DE is nice. It can be dull at times, depending on what you like to do, but all the small towns make it a good place to raise your kids. Joe Biden is a nitwit.

karatecon on August 25, 2008 at 9:22 AM

DaveC on August 25, 2008 at 9:00 AM

I know where you’re talking about because an uncle of mine used to live east of Berkeley Springs, West Virginia and we’d visit him from Ohio. Getting off Rt. 70 if you blinked after you enter Maryland you’d find yourself across the Potomac.

Captain Hate on August 25, 2008 at 9:40 AM

This is what VA gets for electing a governor who only experience in being mayor of a city that is smaller than most high schools.

Dick Morris put it best a few days ago when he said that it was harder to get elected class president than mayor where Kaine lived.

Damiano on August 25, 2008 at 9:41 AM

Too bad Obama didn’t pick this guy. Of course, even with Biden, Obama still loses Pennsylvania.

Vashta.Nerada on August 25, 2008 at 9:46 AM

For the record, if it has not already been stated, Kaine is not a native Virginian, nor is he a Southerner. No offense Yanks, but this dumb cluck is one of y’alls and it was all the non-native Virginian’s who got this guy elected. So don’t blame us. Kaine criticizes McCain for not knowing how many houses he owns, but can’t find the borders of the state he governs. What a shmuck.

JimP on August 25, 2008 at 10:04 AM

I had a great time yesterday. Spent the whole day in Sussex county except for a brief jaunt into southern Kent county. Went to the wildlife preserve and saw hundreds of herons and horseshoe crab carcasses. Then there was the camel and the herd of buffalo. Had a great day in Delaware.

resqgal on August 25, 2008 at 10:07 AM

If Timmy had gotten on the ticket, no one would would even remember who Dan Quayle was, or why they vaguely recall his name. Timmy, oh the fun we could have had…sniff sniff.

Lunkinator on August 25, 2008 at 12:04 PM

Highway robbery in De.

The De. Turnpike, (I-95, from the I-295/I-495 junction to Maryland border) is about 10 miles long. The toll booth is at the Md. border. They charge $3.00 both ways, north and south bound. It could even be higher now. Not sure because I use back roads to get around the toll since the last increase. There are no tolls at any of the exits in De. So us De. residents get a free ride.

Side note. Check the border between Pa. and northern De. It is the only border I know of that is semicircle.

Chimpy on August 25, 2008 at 1:04 PM

Welcome to Geography 101, Democratic Party style.

jtoms3 on August 25, 2008 at 1:28 PM

Listen.Its all about the hair.He needs to consult with Biden about the Hair Club he used.

Marines for Mccain on August 25, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Cheney was talking about Virginians, not West Virginians.

billmcg on August 25, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Side note. Check the border between Pa. and northern De. It is the only border I know of that is semicircle.

Chimpy on August 25, 2008 at 1:04 PM

Yup. Twelve mile radius from the New Castle County statehouse.

Anna on August 25, 2008 at 3:17 PM

Anybody know where Delmarva is? I’ve been there. Nice place.

Nicer that what ever it was that douches…I mean touches Illinois.

lsheldon on August 25, 2008 at 7:47 PM

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