Quotes of the day

posted at 10:00 pm on August 24, 2008 by Allahpundit

“‘Surely we cannot be pleased with … millions of terminated pregnancies,’ Blake said to applause from the nearly full Wells Fargo Theater.”

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“Schenck said the hall, filled with several thousand Democratic activists, fell uneasily silent as Blake spoke against abortion.”

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Kinda funny to be asking a man to keep his promise, when that man has lied about his own record on the abortion issue.

aikidoka on August 24, 2008 at 10:04 PM

I suspect as Barry’s infanticide cred gets more widely known Schenck will be in for more of a shock.

sven10077 on August 24, 2008 at 10:04 PM

While this is a step in the right direction, this Pastor is morally bankrupt for supporting candidates that are pro abortion.

rockdalian on August 24, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Telling.

The Demoncrats continue to distinguish themselves as the party of hate.

Keep it up!

Corky on August 24, 2008 at 10:05 PM

They aren’t babies! They are choices!

SouthernGent on August 24, 2008 at 10:13 PM

gloriapoole writes:

Bishop Blake,perhaps if the so-called ministers of this nation did not speak out of both sides of their mouth at once there would be no legal abortion in this nation? HOW DARE YOU? How dare you try to defend a man as President who never once voted prolife on anything? Who voted for legalized infanticide? Who voted to not notify parents of their minor daughter’s attempt to get an abortion? Who never once voted prolife while in Congress or his state; and who wrote inflammatory articles at the Harvard Review claiming his support of the killing of innocents? What was written about you today in this article,if true, is what is wrong with America i.e. ‘politically correct’ wishy-washy, namby-pamby ‘ministers’ and ‘priests’ who don’t know what they believe or why. GET ON GOD’s side or get out of the pulpits! Do you know the Commandment of GOD, ‘thou shalt not kill”? Do you know the words of JESUS, ‘even so it is not the will of your FATHER which is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish’ as written in Matthew 18:14? Do you know GOD or are you one of those religious seminary types corporate religion who would say “What is truth? ‘
What you were reported as saying should be as inflammatory as saying, it is ok to kill some black people with premeditation or even the Speaker of the House, as long as you feed those whom you do like. It is hogwash, and nonsense, and it is evil, because it misleads people deliberately. Hang your head in shame if what was reported is what you said.
signed gloria poole, RN and artist, Denver Co 80203

AZCON on August 24, 2008 at 10:14 PM

So Blake was a Republican mole???? Operation Chaos strikes again!!!!!!!

HawaiiLwyr on August 24, 2008 at 10:15 PM

They aren’t choices! They are punishments! ~Barack Obama

BKennedy on August 24, 2008 at 10:15 PM

“Others loudly proclaim their advocacy for the unborn,” he said, receiving a standing ovation, “but they refuse to recognize their responsibility and the responsibility of our nation to those who have been born.

“They are presently and historically silent, if not indifferent,” he continued, “to the suffering of our inner cities.”

Obama was against welfare reform.

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 10:16 PM

Step in the right direction.

davidk on August 24, 2008 at 10:16 PM

If you ever becomes confused about what Obama’s abortion position is, just ask ourself “WWtAD”?

AZCON on August 24, 2008 at 10:21 PM

“Schenck said the hall, filled with several thousand Democratic activists, fell uneasily silent

The same thing occurred all over liberal America when news of the Biden choice was announced.

Bishop on August 24, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Starting the convention with a delivery that give birth rights to the center piece of the election?

However, like warm-up bands, they are soon forgotten after the main act gets to the stage.

Kini on August 24, 2008 at 10:30 PM

A disturbance in the abortion force, like that of thousand and thousand voice were suddenly silenced.

Kini on August 24, 2008 at 10:32 PM

Pfffffft – McCain’s flip floppy pandering on the abortion issue over the years shows he also supports “infantcide” – depending on the venue he’s in, and depending on how confused he is.

He doesn’t have the guts to repeal Roe vs Wade, so any and all posturing and puffing about being pro-life is really irrelevant, so there’s no point in all you yahoos getting excited over McCain or indignant over Obama when it comes to abortion.

Dave Rywall on August 24, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Rocky Mountain News

Abortion takes Center Stage at Interfaith Gathering.

Abortion has stormed onto the stage of the Democratic
National Conventions opening event.

Bishop Charles E Blake,presiding bishop of the Church of God
in Christ.

“Surely we cannot be pleased with…millions of terminated
pregnancies”,Blake said to applause from nearly full Wells
Fargo Theater.

“Something within us must be calling for a better way.If we
do not resist at this point,at what point will we resist?”

Democrats must know about the “moral and spirtual pain so
many of us feel because of this disregard for the lives
of the unborn,”Blake said.
————————————————————

Well,at least the’ll get the lip service and abortion storm-
ing over with early in the Convention!

One abortion,is,one too many.

canopfor on August 24, 2008 at 10:35 PM

He doesn’t have the guts to repeal Roe vs Wade,

Dave Rywall on August 24, 2008 at 10:34 PM

That’s for the courts to decide, not McCain.

If anything, McCain made the paygrade when he answered the question of when life begins. At conception.

Kini on August 24, 2008 at 10:38 PM

One abortion,is,one too many.

canopfor on August 24, 2008 at 10:35 PM

Right On, right on, right on….

Kini on August 24, 2008 at 10:38 PM

They aren’t babies! They are choices!

SouthernGent on August 24, 2008 at 10:13 PM

They aren’t babies,……… they are inconveniences.

Seven Percent Solution on August 24, 2008 at 10:41 PM

they are inconveniences.

Seven Percent Solution on August 24, 2008 at 10:41 PM

Distractions

Kini on August 24, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Dave Rywall on August 24, 2008 at 10:34 PM

In your astutely astute astuteness you overlook the fact that a President cannot overthrow a Supreme Court ruling.

This yahoo is excited about a pro-life president, and indignant over any pro-abortion enabler.

davidk on August 24, 2008 at 10:42 PM

How is a president supposed to “repeal” a Supreme Court decision again? Get over yourself.

amkun on August 24, 2008 at 10:44 PM

Pfffffft – McCain’s flip floppy pandering on the abortion issue over the years shows he also supports “infantcide” – depending on the venue he’s in, and depending on how confused he is.

He doesn’t have the guts to repeal Roe vs Wade, so any and all posturing and puffing about being pro-life is really irrelevant, so there’s no point in all you yahoos getting excited over McCain or indignant over Obama when it comes to abortion.

Dave Rywall on August 24, 2008 at 10:34 PM

The President nor can a Senator and repeal Roe.. it’s up to the Supreme Court.

Q: Would the day that Roe v. Wade is repealed be a good day for America?

ROMNEY: Absolutely.

BROWNBACK: It would be a glorious day of human liberty and freedom.

GILMORE: Yes, it was wrongly decided.

HUCKABEE: Most certainly.

HUNTER: Yes.

THOMPSON: Yes.

McCAIN: A repeal.

GIULIANI: It would be OK to repeal.

TANCREDO: After 40 million dead because we have aborted them in this country, that would be the greatest day in this country’s history when that, in fact, is overturned.
Source: 2007 GOP primary debate, at Reagan library, hosted by MSNBC May 3, 2007

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Distractions

Kini on August 24, 2008 at 10:42 PM

The unborn are below Obama and Biden’s paygrade……….

Seven Percent Solution on August 24, 2008 at 10:46 PM

That’s for the courts to decide, not McCain.
Kini on August 24, 2008 at 10:38 PM
———

Exactly.

Dave Rywall on August 24, 2008 at 10:46 PM

Roe was a bad decision from the get-go, IF abortion is such a good idea, then they should have made it a Constitutional Amendment. ITS NOT! It was Judicial Activism.

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 10:50 PM

Rywall, why don’t you climb back under the rock. McCain proved he is pro life by taking an abandoned child from Africa and taking care of her, having her surgery done and adopting her. No one left her to die alone in a closet. He has never never acted or said he was pro choice.
I was only going to vote for congress, but the more I hear and read about you nut cases who would lie about anything and the person you have chosen that does the same thing, I don’t even think I need nose plugs anymore. I think I can do it with my eyes open.

Bambi on August 24, 2008 at 10:51 PM

The best was as a Federalist is for Roe to be overturned, and left the States fashion their own abortion laws, most states will probably keep the “choice” available, however legislation will always be brought forward to limit it.

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 10:52 PM

Dave Rywall:

Do you ever sign your name as DRywall? I’m sorry but every time you post I can’t get the thought of a very heavy wall covering that needs to be taped and painted over.

What the heck were you yammering about?

Vince on August 24, 2008 at 10:53 PM

Rywall, why don’t you climb back under the rock. McCain proved he is pro life by taking an abandoned child from Africa and taking care of her, having her surgery done and adopting her. No one left her to die alone in a closet. He has never never acted or said he was pro choice.
I was only going to vote for congress, but the more I hear and read about you nut cases who would lie about anything and the person you have chosen that does the same thing, I don’t even think I need nose plugs anymore. I think I can do it with my eyes open.

Bambi on August 24, 2008 at 10:51 PM

Bambi, McCain’s daughter Bridget is not African, she’s Bengali(From Bangladesh which is in Asia east of India)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 10:54 PM

Why, oh why, don’t we have to pass a test in order to be able to vote? Just look at Dave Rywall’s post and davidk’s response to him. Doesn’t everyone know that? Evidently not.

cjs1943 on August 24, 2008 at 10:55 PM

Whoops! Sorry africa, hello Bangladesh. Well, wherever, that baby is one of the luckiest and after all a baby is a baby and he and Cindy saved it.

Bambi on August 24, 2008 at 11:00 PM

Pfffffft – McCain’s flip floppy pandering on the abortion issue over the years shows he also supports “infantcide” – depending on the venue he’s in, and depending on how confused he is.

He doesn’t have the guts to repeal Roe vs Wade, so any and all posturing and puffing about being pro-life is really irrelevant, so there’s no point in all you yahoos getting excited over McCain or indignant over Obama when it comes to abortion.

Dave Rywall on August 24, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Dave can you give some examples? Don’t come here and make an a** out yourself.

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 11:00 PM

Azcon: thanks for posting that letter I was going to, but you beat me to it.

Bambi on August 24, 2008 at 11:04 PM

Dave can you give some examples? Don’t come here and make an a** out yourself.

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 11:00 PM

A little late for that, Luv. Besides, it’s Dave’s defining characteristic.

Jaibones on August 24, 2008 at 11:05 PM

They aren’t babies! They are choices!

SouthernGent on August 24, 2008 at 10:13 PM

They aren’t babies,……… they are inconveniences.

Seven Percent Solution on August 24, 2008 at 10:41 PM

they are inconveniences.

Seven Percent Solution on August 24, 2008 at 10:41 PM

Distractions

Kini on August 24, 2008 at 10:42 PM

They are punishments.

Lily on August 24, 2008 at 11:07 PM

Others loudly proclaim their advocacy for the unborn,” he said, receiving a standing ovation, “but they refuse to recognize their responsibility and the responsibility of our nation to those who have been born.

So it doesn’t matter how much I give to charity, as long as I’m against high taxes, I’m heartless.

jgapinoy on August 24, 2008 at 11:07 PM

A disturbance in the abortion force, like that of thousand and thousand voice were suddenly silenced.
Kini on August 24, 2008 at 10:32 PM

A drop in the bucket compared to the tens of millions of voices silenced since Roe took effect.

Bishop on August 24, 2008 at 11:13 PM

Pfffffft – McCain’s flip floppy pandering on the abortion issue over the years shows he also supports “infantcide” – depending on the venue he’s in, and depending on how confused he is.

He doesn’t have the guts to repeal Roe vs Wade, so any and all posturing and puffing about being pro-life is really irrelevant, so there’s no point in all you yahoos getting excited over McCain or indignant over Obama when it comes to abortion.

Dave Rywall on August 24, 2008 at 10:34 PM

What an absolute moronic statement. Roe vs. Wade was a SCOTUS decision. If there’s any repealing or revisiting to be done, it will have to start, and end there!

byteshredder on August 24, 2008 at 11:13 PM

Voting Record

McCain
Voted YES on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP.
———-
Obama
Biden
Both Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP.

—————–

John Mcain

Voted YES on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.

Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime.
——–
Obama
Biden

Both Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.

Both Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.

———-

McCain

Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life.

Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions.

Voted YES on banning human cloning.
———

Obama

Voted against banning partial birth abortion.

Biden

Voted NO on banning human cloning. (Which means that he is in favor of it)

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 11:18 PM

He doesn’t have the guts to repeal Roe vs Wade, so any and all posturing and puffing about being pro-life is really irrelevant, so there’s no point in all you yahoos getting excited over McCain or indignant over Obama when it comes to abortion.

Dave Rywall on August 24, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Are you a yahoo also?

Johan Klaus on August 24, 2008 at 11:18 PM

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 11:18 PM

SCHIP is just a soft version of socialized medicine. I’m not sure what you are proud of here.

lorien1973 on August 24, 2008 at 11:20 PM

They aren’t babies! They are choices!

SouthernGent on August 24, 2008 at 10:13 PM

They aren’t babies,……… they are inconveniences.

Seven Percent Solution on August 24, 2008 at 10:41 PM

they are inconveniences.

Seven Percent Solution on August 24, 2008 at 10:41 PM

Distractions

Kini on August 24, 2008 at 10:42 PM

They are punishments.

Lily on August 24, 2008 at 11:07 PM

Obama compared them to STD’s

2 two daughters, if they make a mistake I DONT WANT THEM PUNISHED WITH A BABY! OR AN STD!

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Why does Texas have the highest rate of teen pregnancies in America?

Seems like one way to reduce abortions is to raise your children right…y’all.

alphie on August 24, 2008 at 11:23 PM

McCain proved he is pro life…

Bambi on August 24, 2008 at 10:51 PM

Didn’t McCain go against Wisconsin Right to Life when there was a case where his Campaign Finance Reform legislation was an issue? He could have chosen to support the Pro-Life group, support his legislation or just stay out of it and, if I remember correctly, he got involved to support his legislation against the Pro-Life group.

I think that’s telling.

Also, I believe Alito and Roberts are against his campaign finance reform legislation. So I don’t expect him to try to appoint anyone like them. Granted, he couldn’t get anyone near them approved by the super majority Democrat Senate anyway, so I guess the point is moot.

Michael in MI on August 24, 2008 at 11:24 PM

SCHIP is just a soft version of socialized medicine. I’m not sure what you are proud of here.

lorien1973 on August 24, 2008 at 11:20 PM

still, it proves wheather or not you believe that is it life or not, if it is life like i believe it is, then poor women should be able to get care for that baby, ultra sounds, vitamins, etc… in order to have a health baby, why should that baby be punished because the mother is poor?

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 11:25 PM

Didn’t McCain go against Wisconsin Right to Life when there was a case where his Campaign Finance Reform legislation was an issue? He could have chosen to support the Pro-Life group, support his legislation or just stay out of it and, if I remember correctly, he got involved to support his legislation against the Pro-Life group.

I think that’s telling.

Also, I believe Alito and Roberts are against his campaign finance reform legislation. So I don’t expect him to try to appoint anyone like them. Granted, he couldn’t get anyone near them approved by the super majority Democrat Senate anyway, so I guess the point is moot.

Michael in MI on August 24, 2008 at 11:24 PM

it effected everyone not just Pro-Life.

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 11:27 PM

“‘Surely we cannot be pleased with … millions of terminated pregnancies,’ Blake said to applause from the nearly full Wells Fargo Theater.”

I’m a little confused here, so if someone can help me, I’d appreciate it.

Were they cheering because they were happy that there were millions of terminated pregnancies?

BTW, I believe when the babies (or contents of uterus) are aborted, they are sent off to the lab, to verify that they got “all of it”. Lovely, people, these proaborts.

bloggless on August 24, 2008 at 11:31 PM

…then poor women should be able to get care for that baby, ultra sounds, vitamins, etc… in order to have a health baby, why should that baby be punished because the mother is poor?

You think Republicans are gonna raise taxes on the rich just to keep poor babies healthy, Chakra?

Too funny.

Why do you think Republicans have done to get rid of abortion…the support it….pay no attention to their phony lip service.

alphie on August 24, 2008 at 11:31 PM

oh i got all the info from

http://www.ontheissues.org

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 11:34 PM

Chakra, poor women can get obstetric care while they are pregnant. Any prolife org will help them get what they need. An ultrasound is not necessary during pregnancy, unless there is a suspected problem with the fetus, and even then, there is free or reduced cost available.

bloggless on August 24, 2008 at 11:34 PM

alphie, get a grip. No one has to raise taxes for poor woment to have a healthy baby. But we may have to raise taxes to get a proof reader for your posts.

bloggless on August 24, 2008 at 11:36 PM

You think Republicans are gonna raise taxes on the rich just to keep poor babies healthy, Chakra?

Too funny.

Why do you think Republicans have done to get rid of abortion…the support it….pay no attention to their phony lip service.

alphie on August 24, 2008 at 11:31 PM

Facts are the facts alphie, Obama and Biden were against SCHIP for the unborn babies.(We all know that Democrats are pro-Abortion and love spending, this is another example where pro-Abortion comes out on top over more spending and caring for life)

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 11:36 PM

Chakra, poor women can get obstetric care while they are pregnant. Any prolife org will help them get what they need. An ultrasound is not necessary during pregnancy, unless there is a suspected problem with the fetus, and even then, there is free or reduced cost available.

bloggless on August 24, 2008 at 11:34 PM

SCHIP (State Children’s Health Insurance Program)

McCain voted so that unborn babies could qualify for it(which would help to reduce abortions, and also help poor women give healthier babies), Obama and Biden voted against it(which IMHO does nothing to lower the Abortion rate, and does help poor women nor the unborn baby)

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 11:41 PM

bloggless on August 24, 2008 at 11:34 PM

BTW, like i Said why punish the babies of poor women because they are poor and pregnant? thats sick

how about when your wife gets pregnant do don’t let her go to the doctor and get regular checkups and take vitamins(if necessary) and you don’t allow her to get a balanced diet.

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 11:45 PM

perspectives….

I love the bait and switch: “I cannot support the opposition to abortion because those who oppose abortion don’t care about poor people…”

Weak.

VolMagic on August 24, 2008 at 11:51 PM

BTW, like i Said why punish the babies of poor women because they are poor and pregnant? thats sick

how about when your wife gets pregnant do don’t let her go to the doctor and get regular checkups and take vitamins(if necessary) and you don’t allow her to get a balanced diet.

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 11:45 PM

The only people I know that punish babies of poor women are abortionists who convince the mothers that their lives will be better if they kill their babies. So, what are you trying to say?

bloggless on August 24, 2008 at 11:53 PM

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 11:25 PM

And why should babies be punished because their mothers don’t think about constitutional issues? You raise worthy questions, but one can leave those questions with the states and people. The Congress has enumerated powers, not numberless ones. The Executive has four constitutional departments: Treasury, Justice, State, and War. The revolution in your federal government has made it worse, not better, and as it accumulates powers, it becomes increasingly static because of strife.

Kralizec on August 24, 2008 at 11:54 PM

why should that baby be punished because the mother is poor?

Chakra Hammer on August 24, 2008 at 11:25 PM

While I admire your tenacity for supporting the right to life, punishment for being poor is not the same thing.

It is also a personal decision to wait to either have a child or to not have a child. The government need not get involved. It it a decision either individual or with the support system of a family to help with the upbringing of a child. I.e. grandparents, uncles, aunts, etc… hormones not included….

It is not the role of the government to decide either what the family is or should be, other than the laws that govern society as a whole. Children have been born in far worst conditions throughout history and continue to flourish even today. Much to the shigrin of many environmentalist that wish to reduce said carbon footprints.

In other words, being poor is not a prerequisite for having or not having a child. Being poor, or judging what is poor, should not be the role of any government regulation of the family.

Else we have China’s view of having children, 1 per/no exceptions.
Good health care is essential for success for anyone. Granted.

A good successful life does not require wealth of money, but a wealth of existence and enjoyment of life. However that may be.

Kini on August 24, 2008 at 11:57 PM

Hmmmm. So, do I trust “Dave Rywall” or the National Right to Life Committee when it comes time to judge McCain’s pro-life stance?

gosh, it’s such a tough call

/eyeroll

funky chicken on August 24, 2008 at 11:57 PM

Were they cheering because they were happy that there were millions of terminated pregnancies?

bloggless on August 24, 2008 at 11:31 PM

Who knows what lurks in the mind of the mindless

Kini on August 25, 2008 at 12:01 AM

Whats going on with YouTube?

go to YouTube type in “Obama” without quotes and you get like 4-5 pages of only positive videos, then type in “McCain” without quotes and you get nothing but negative videos.. sheesh..

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 12:04 AM

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 12:04 AM

Really, my friend. You really have to ask?

Kini on August 25, 2008 at 12:05 AM

Chakra,

So the Republicans love only fetuses and the Dems only care for living, breathing children.

Kind of a viscous circle, eh?

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:10 AM

Kini on August 24, 2008 at 11:57 PM

not sure what basis you take that stance on.

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 12:12 AM

Chakra,

So the Republicans love only fetuses and the Dems only care for living, breathing children.

Kind of a viscous circle, eh?

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:10 AM

No I would say that Republicans care for ALL life, SCHIP for the unborn would just increase the likelihood of reducing abortions and for healthier babies, and IF the women does NOT want the baby after she gives birth she can always give it up for adoption(I’m for whatever is in the best interest of the baby, the LIFE)

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 12:15 AM

Chakra,

The trick of providing effective government services is knowing how to distribute them.

Which, unfortunately, means denying them to some truly needy people.

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:18 AM

Chakra,

The trick of providing effective government services is knowing how to distribute them.

Which, unfortunately, means denying them to some truly needy people.

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:18 AM

the only Spending that Obama and Biden voted against was helping poor women and unborn babies.

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 12:21 AM

the only Spending that Obama and Biden voted against was helping poor pregnant women and unborn babies.

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 12:22 AM

not sure what basis you take that stance on.

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 12:12 AM

You said:

still, it proves wheather or not you believe that is it life or not, if it is life like i believe it is, then poor women should be able to get care for that baby, ultra sounds, vitamins, etc… in order to have a health baby, why should that baby be punished because the mother is poor?

Who’s to judge the quality of life based on their wealth or lack of.

It’s not the role of the government to decide that.

Kini on August 25, 2008 at 12:25 AM

Chakra,

The federal government grew faster under little Bush and a Republican Congress than it ever has in America’s history.

66% of Americans now count on the Democrats on economic issues.

You may stop clutching your pearls.

And face a little reality.

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:25 AM

Who’s to judge the quality of life based on their wealth or lack of.

It’s not the role of the government to decide that.

Kini on August 25, 2008 at 12:25 AM

The poor woman should be able to have at least minimum health checkups and care available, and Food and vitamins IF she wants it.(nothing fancy, but she should have basic care and nutrition available )

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 12:31 AM

Chakra,

The federal government grew faster under little Bush and a Republican Congress than it ever has in America’s history.

66% of Americans now count on the Democrats on economic issues.

You may stop clutching your pearls.

And face a little reality.

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:25 AM

Most of it was on security and schools, BTW the Democrats have been in Charge for the past 2 years and they didn’t vote against ANY of the spending.

McCain was against the spending and pork barrel projects and ear marks, and voted against the give aways to the oil companies, Obama voted for those tax breaks for “Big Oil companies”

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 12:34 AM

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:25 AM

You spew a bunch of facts, but don’t support them – - links, please.

Rick on August 25, 2008 at 12:35 AM

The trick of providing effective government services is knowing how to distribute them.

Which, unfortunately, means denying them to some truly needy people.

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:18 AM

It’s no trick. The best services for people are provided by local communities, not by the government.

Government brings a bureaucracy of those that are not apart of the community. They, the government, are the problem and not the solution.

Look at the difference between the communities of New Orleans Katrina and the communities of southern California during the wild fires for example. People helping people versus waiting for the government to help. There are other examples to speak of, but this is a contrast worth examining.

It’s not to say we cannot live without government. Government has it’s place, but it’s not in governing our lives.

Kini on August 25, 2008 at 12:37 AM

“Defense” is still government spending, Chakra.

I think most people would prefer the U.S. military was disbanded and we rely on just our nukes for protection….and cut the federal budget by $700,000,000,000 a year.

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:39 AM

He could have chosen to support the Pro-Life group, support his legislation or just stay out of it and, if I remember correctly, he got involved to support his legislation against the Pro-Life group.

I think that’s telling.

Yeah it is. Doesn’t make him pro-antipunishment or pro-infanticide, but CFR is definitely higher on the totem pole for him.

Spirit of 1776 on August 25, 2008 at 12:39 AM

The poor woman should be able to have at least minimum health checkups and care available, and Food and vitamins IF she wants it.(nothing fancy, but she should have basic care and nutrition available )

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 12:31 AM

You don’t think that already exists? And without the government getting involved?

Kini on August 25, 2008 at 12:39 AM

I think most people would prefer the U.S. military was disbanded and we rely on just our nukes for protection….and cut the federal budget by $700,000,000,000 a year.

Haha. If you think things like that you should have head examined. “Most people” try “most anarchists”.

America has a regard for life that will keep it from using nukes save for the absolute worst case scenario. No military means we’d get eaten like sheep. AND should a war break out, we wouldn’t have the training or the equipment to fight it. Mark that one down as a bad idea.

Spirit of 1776 on August 25, 2008 at 12:41 AM

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:39 AM

Who are these people you refer to?

Rick on August 25, 2008 at 12:42 AM

Defense spending is just welfare payments to rural Americans and the Confederacy, Rick.

Figure Americans living outside those two areas.

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:44 AM

So the Republicans love only fetuses and the Dems only care for living, breathing children.

That’s absurd. Republicans just don’t think government is the answer to every question. There are better (more effective) networks available in the private sector.

Spirit of 1776 on August 25, 2008 at 12:44 AM

“Defense” is still government spending, Chakra.

I think most people would prefer the U.S. military was disbanded and we rely on just our nukes for protection….and cut the federal budget by $700,000,000,000 a year.

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:39 AM

ok alphie, then how do you save those people off the rooftops of homes during Katrina? or using our Navy to bring Aid to place around the world during tsunamis you rely on a defensive weapons alone.. i guess Bill Clinton bombing those terrorist training camps was a bad thing? >:D

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 12:45 AM

Why does Texas have the highest rate of teen pregnancies in America?

Seems like one way to reduce abortions is to raise your children right…y’all.

alphie on August 24, 2008 at 11:23 PM

Texas may have one of the higher rates, but not the highest rate – - Nevada does.

Rick on August 25, 2008 at 12:45 AM

I think most people would prefer the U.S. military was disbanded and we rely on just our nukes for protection….and cut the federal budget by $700,000,000,000 a year.

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:39 AM

No, that is the role of government. Defense. A strong defense to protect our way of life. Military spending is not a drain on this nations economy, but an enhancement to our quality of life.

The people that think like that are gathered in Denver this week.

Kini on August 25, 2008 at 12:45 AM

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 12:45 AM

According to Alphie, Nuke ‘em all!

Rick on August 25, 2008 at 12:46 AM

ok alphie, then how do you save those people off the rooftops of homes during Katrina? or using our Navy to bring Aid to place around the world during tsunamis you can’t rely on a defensive weapons alone.. i guess Bill Clinton bombing those terrorist training camps was a bad thing? >:D

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 12:47 AM

Get rid of the $700,000,000,000+ a year of “Defense” pork and even Louisiana could afford decent civilians services, Chakra?

As for Bill, his missiles were no more impotent than the 7+ years Bush has spent battling the Taliban…and a heck of a lot cheaper.

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:55 AM

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:44 AM

That’s pretty funny considering all the worthless businesses (advertising, modelling, etc.) that produce nothing and just suck money are in cities which are usually full of liberals

Darth Executor on August 25, 2008 at 12:57 AM

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:55 AM

Hmm, while we’re at it, why don’t we go ahead and get rid of all law enforcement too. All pork, no? That way, we can all be on welfare.

Rick on August 25, 2008 at 12:59 AM

As for Bill, his missiles were no more impotent than the 7+ years Bush has spent battling the Taliban…and a heck of a lot cheaper.

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:55 AM

If you only read the MSM you would believe that, you don’t really know how many high valued targets that we have killed do you?

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 1:01 AM

I think some Black people can be pried away from the Democrat party. Many of them are very conservative on issues like Abortion, and Immigration, but for some reason remain locked in as Democrats.

Kjeil on August 25, 2008 at 1:01 AM

Kjeil on August 25, 2008 at 1:01 AM

It’s because the democrats are silver tongued snakes. They’re predators who know how to implant discontent and exploit it by posing as saviors to the problems they created.

Darth Executor on August 25, 2008 at 1:03 AM

go to YouTube type in “Obama” without quotes and you get like 4-5 pages of only positive videos, then type in “McCain” without quotes and you get nothing but negative videos.. sheesh..

Owned by the liberals at Google. Part of the liberal media.

jgapinoy on August 25, 2008 at 1:03 AM

Chakra Hammer on August 25, 2008 at 1:01 AM

Keep in mind that you’re asking that question to somebody who just argued in favor of disbanding the military altogether – - except for nukes, of course.

Rick on August 25, 2008 at 1:04 AM

As for Bill, his missiles were no more impotent than the 7+ years Bush has spent battling the Taliban…and a heck of a lot cheaper.

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 12:55 AM

You left out how successful Bush was in defeating Islamic Terrorism.
Bush’s strategy was to bring it to the Islamic world where it belongs, where it began. Fight it there, rather than here. Or would you rather have them here alphie?

No one likes war, but how many times does it take before one defend one self? Or do you believe they, the Islamic terrorists, are right?

Well?

Kini on August 25, 2008 at 1:05 AM

Kjeil on August 25, 2008 at 1:01 AM

Identity politics at its best – - nobody can do it like the Dems.

Rick on August 25, 2008 at 1:05 AM

Chakra,

There are no “high value” Taliban targets.

They just promote from within.

We should have just accepted their offer to turn Osama over to us instead of invading their country…*sigh*

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 1:05 AM

We should have just accepted their offer to turn Osama over to us instead of invading their country…*sigh*

alphie on August 25, 2008 at 1:05 AM

That’s not what happened. They offered to turn him over to a THIRD PARTY Country AFTER we started bombing them.

Rick on August 25, 2008 at 1:15 AM

We should have just accepted their offer to turn Osama over to us instead of invading their country…*sigh* alphie on August 25, 2008 at 1:05 AM

Democrat Clinton shoulda coulda woulda with Osama.

Mojave Mark on August 25, 2008 at 1:18 AM

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