Open thread: Bright, clean, articulate nominee introduces VP in Springfield; Update: Video added; Update: 20% less likely to vote McCain if he picked woman VP, says poll
posted at 2:25 pm on August 23, 2008 by Allahpundit
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John Miller wanted to see that headline, so there you go. 3 p.m. ET around the dial; if you’re tuned in, comment below. We’ll be taping so look for video here later in case Biden cracks a fried chicken joke or pats Obama on the head or does something else refreshingly politically incorrect for the left to coo over. Your exit question while you wait: Where does this leave McCain with his own VP pick? Stephen Hayes and Tom Bevan offer unconvincing answers (Lieberman and, er, John Kasich, respectively), but Bevan’s analysis is otherwise spot on. If Obama had named Hillary, Maverick might have been forced to throw a Hail Mary with Joementum or Palin or Carly Fiorina. As it is, one safe pick permits another, which means Mitt or Pawlenty. The latter’s safer than the former among the base, but I can’t see undecideds handing the keys to the country to a guy no one outside of Minnesota has ever heard of. I have to think it’s Mitt.
Special bonus exit question: Why exactly is Palin a worse choice than Pawlenty? I swear I remember seeing a poll somewhere that McCain would actually lose points from picking a woman VP, but after 20 minutes of googling I can’t find it. Can anyone help?
Update: Hotline’s on the same page.
Update: You know who this helps, asks Hugh Hewitt? Mitt Romney.
Update: Commenters have dubbed this the “Clean and Jerk” ticket.
Update: Obama-NBC has video of both speeches uncut.
Update: Bill Amos found the poll I was looking for. Why Pawlenty is better than Palin:
For all the chatter about the pros and cons of picking a female vice president, a new poll commissioned by Lifetime finds that women are not particularly likely to be influenced by the selection of a lady VP. In the poll, 55% of women say that Obama’s selection of a female running mate would make no difference to their voting choice, and 62% said the same of McCain. (A Republican woman VP could actually hurt McCain. A full 20% responded that they would be LESS likely to support the GOP nominee if he selected a female on the ticket.)
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Trains are the new mills.
Typhonsentra on August 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM
OMFG!!!! He just admitted to being a socialist!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM
I refuse to watch this, I already have a headache. So be honest, how bad is it?
Terrye on August 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Boo BOOSH!
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM
He apparently grew up in Alabama….
RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Hint: Bush ain’t running Barry!
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:19 PM
“We cannot afford more of the same.”
We can’t afford you economic policies, Barry.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:19 PM
he’s gonna blow!
bridgetown on August 23, 2008 at 3:19 PM
LOL he screwed up!!! Paging Dr. Freud.
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:19 PM
The Messiah speaks. “Take this country in a new direction”. At least he didn’t say “take this country back”. That’s just so gag-worthy.
Paul-Cincy on August 23, 2008 at 3:19 PM
The next President????
HawaiiLwyr on August 23, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Ahaha. Obama just gaffed and announced Biden as the next President.
Enoxo on August 23, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Oh I think I just puked.
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:20 PM
“Let me introduce to you the next President, the next Vice President of the United States, Joe Biden.”
Big slip there, Barry.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:20 PM
heh.
Obama gaffed introducing Senator Gaffee himself!
p.s. John Mellencamp conjures up images of the Breck Girl and his, um, girls.
Branch Rickey on August 23, 2008 at 3:20 PM
I like this one
Jerk and Empty (Daddy/Sonny)
Entelechy on August 23, 2008 at 3:20 PM
There he is! The Great Pumpkin!
Weebork on August 23, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Bwahaha, Biden’s using the came jacketless rolled up sleeve look. Blue tie to go with Obama’s red too, they coordinated their wardrobes.
Typhonsentra on August 23, 2008 at 3:20 PM
“Let me introduce to you the next President…er. the next Vice President….Joe Biden!”
Priceless
Even O knows Biden is more qualified.
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Losers squared.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:21 PM
I hope the hairspray holds….
RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 3:21 PM
his feet are in his shoes
HawaiiLwyr on August 23, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Ut oh, he’s quoting someone else. Let’s see that plagerism gaffe come out the first thing.
Enoxo on August 23, 2008 at 3:21 PM
I love it when liberals quote president Lincoln, heh, heh.
Entelechy on August 23, 2008 at 3:21 PM
I think Joey B. needs some plugs on the crown of his noggin.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:21 PM
LOL Obama’s sleeves are rolled up. They gonna roll back prices. LOL!
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Other than slipping and calling Biden “the next President,” Obama’s intro went well. He’s always good with prepared speeches. Biden’s just starting, though. Keep your fingers crossed for a really good gaffe!
aero on August 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Here go the sob stories…
Entelechy on August 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM
She raised him to HATE Amerika!
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM
oh geeze another sob story – get ready carbon…
HawaiiLwyr on August 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM
I wonder who wrote Biden’s speech, and if he knows Biden is delivering it.
Paul-Cincy on August 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM
He said “Springfield”, where’s Homer?
Doh!
Weebork on August 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Scranton !!! Drink
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM
“We come from different places but have similar stories.”
WTF?????
So Joe is a pot smoking, surfer that used affirmative action?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM
I wonder how much of his speech is plagarized.
Weebork on August 23, 2008 at 3:23 PM
McCain was Bush’s VP???
HawaiiLwyr on August 23, 2008 at 3:23 PM
4 years of Bush?
Did we timewarp?
Enoxo on August 23, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Did you know McCain has been Boooooosh’s Veep? That’s what it sounds like.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Bush killed the “American dream”.
Entelechy on August 23, 2008 at 3:23 PM
The future is receding? He should know. Look at his hair.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Is it just me or is Biden’s speech better than Obama’s???
terryannonline on August 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Uh, Biden, we can thank you Democrats for the inflation!
Weebork on August 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM
If you think the American Dream is to spend 35 years in Congress, then you don’t understand the American Dream.
RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Funny, Biden voted for corporations, banks, and credit cards… and yet, now it’s a bad thing?
Enoxo on August 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM
In comparison to the rising and falling emotionally evocative cadences of Obama’s speaking style, Biden’s style stands out as traditional white-guy-politician (i.e. boring). You realize after two or three sentences that you’re not really sure what he just said because your mind drifted off several times.
aero on August 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Gaffe already! McCain is Bush’s VEEP!!!
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM
ummm wasn’t Biden in the government that did nothing???
HawaiiLwyr on August 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM
The audience is clapping, he must be plagarizing!
Weebork on August 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Tax cut after tax cut? We can’t afford it? There’s been more money flowing to the gubmint than ever before.
Drop off cliff? Please, Joe. Please!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Complain, complain, complain. America sucks, America sucks, America sucks.
aero on August 23, 2008 at 3:24 PM
It’s just you UNBELIEVER!
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Not a worry that John McCain has to worry about? How rich are you two douchebags?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM
oh gawd the multi-houses jab – how creative
HawaiiLwyr on August 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM
In Obama’s context of Hope and Change, Biden is a Giant Leap Backward into the old politics of sleazy Washington insiders. Ho-hum.
petefrt on August 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Heh. McCain/Bush ‘08!
Is that possible?
terryannonline on August 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Hmmm…we just paid our mortgage off and will be paying cash for a new car.
Connie on August 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Populism 101, folks. He almost sounds like Huckabee.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Yep, we knew that was coming. McMansion!!!!
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM
So, since the houses are all owned by Mrs McCain, despite what Obama threatened, the wives are not off-limits anymore?
Weebork on August 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Bush is so powerful that his two terms are really three!
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Four more years of Bush/McCain? ZOMG, and here I thought Cheney was Veep!
Enoxo on August 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM
He’s running against Bush.
aero on August 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM
I feel sorry for Bush. He should not have to be a whipping horses for these clowns. He is a better man than either of them.
And when {praytell} are Democrats going to assume some responsibility for their own mistakes? Pelosi has not exactly been a success.
Terrye on August 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Franklin Roosevelt? Someone send Greasy Joe “The Forgotten Man”, stat.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Does anybody in America fall for this crap? Anybody that’s smarter than Joe Biden I mean….
RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Apparently Biden thinks so
HawaiiLwyr on August 23, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Oh, if it were it would be so sweet.
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM
WTF is Biden talking about?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Ut oh. Biden is about ready to stroke out. He better calm down with that past anuerism he had.
Enoxo on August 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Obama/Biden will revive the “American dream”. You will all be saved. Rejoice.
Bush created all foreclosures.
Biden “worries about paying the bills, in his kitchen table” – what an ass – but McCain doesn’t have to (it’s implied that his wife is rich).
I’m laughing my capitalist ars off. America’s security is at risk due to Bush.
Oh, Biden just said “moral standing”. The lefties must be in orgsmic heaven, flooding themselves with a sticky substance, over this pap.
Oh, baby, we now “have a leader to lead America”.
Ok, I’m switching it off. I can’t stand propaganda.
Entelechy on August 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM
OH lol age joke!
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM
AH, distancing himself from Washington!
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM
And somewhere, in a dark place, Hillary Clinton is watching, waiting, smiling.
Weebork on August 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM
“Never seen Washington so broken…” You mean in th 30+ years you’ve been there?
Enoxo on August 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM
It’s broke because you broke it, moron.
RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM
You’ve never seen Washington so broken? Weren’t you there during the Carter years?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM
He needs to stay away from the Washington sucks thing – since he has been there since Nixon
HawaiiLwyr on August 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM
I would love to see Palin as the pick. I think it puts in play the female / Hillary voters and throws a monkey wrench into the Obamamessiahs Hope and Change message.
It also makes a point that the GOP is not the rich white guy party like the MSM would claim if it was Mitt which I think could really help down the road.
AndrewsDad on August 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM
Change! Like Joe Biden! Been around since Nixon!!!
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM
Boooo BOOOSH!
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Wise leader? Leaders take positions and not expound upon a mantra of “change.” Barry has never before forced to stand behind a single decision. He nuances everything.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:29 PM
ok I am convinced, Booooosh is the devil
HawaiiLwyr on August 23, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Deliver the change, and the folding money, and the direct deposits, and the food stamps, etc.
RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 3:29 PM
“Obiden” vs McBush? I hope they stay with that.
Next question.How many houses does biden own? :)
Nelsa on August 23, 2008 at 3:29 PM
You can’t change America when you vote with your party greater than 95% of the time (that’s you Barry).
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Biden needs a haircut.
Why does the percentage of McCain’s voting with Bush keep changing? What is the true number?
bridgetown on August 23, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Hey Moron, Iraq is off the talking points because it is succeeding!
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Yeah! Iraq sucks! Oh wait, the surge is working. Damnit, someone forget to correct Biden’s speech.
Enoxo on August 23, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Demonizing McCain’s support of Iraq? Don’t they read the NYT? It’s a success, douchebags.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Si se puede!
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Yeah, like THE SURGE WORKED!!!!
BUSH WAS RIGHT. BARRY WAS NOT WRIGHT!
HEY JOE OLD BUDDY BOY: how much was your SUV and plane ride today and who gets the $$$$ for the carbon credits???
GO AWAY! YES YOU CAN
Branch Rickey on August 23, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Wow. That’s really cool. I have the Star Wars: Force Unleashed demo on my X-Box!
Sweet!
What were we talking about?
Weebork on August 23, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Wow. Overwhelming negativity.
aero on August 23, 2008 at 3:31 PM
A clean man, my friend
HawaiiLwyr on August 23, 2008 at 3:31 PM
what did Biden say Barak’s last name was?
Branch Rickey on August 23, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Oh no, four more years of soup lines and bread lines, and terrorist attacks in every city…wait…I guess it wasn’t so bad.
RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 3:32 PM
How he reacts under pressure? Uhhh, ahhhh, uuhhhh, ummmm, aaahhh…
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Reading comments here – change? Biden’s been in the Senate 10 years more than McCain – yet, he’s the “change agent”?
McCain, do get someone sane and grown up on the ticket, please. The children are in charge and it’s dangerous.
Entelechy on August 23, 2008 at 3:32 PM
It’s a pretty good demo, too. Can’t wait for the game.
Er, wait, Biden right. He’s going to stroke out.
Enoxo on August 23, 2008 at 3:32 PM
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