Open thread: Bright, clean, articulate nominee introduces VP in Springfield; Update: Video added; Update: 20% less likely to vote McCain if he picked woman VP, says poll
posted at 2:25 pm on August 23, 2008 by Allahpundit
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John Miller wanted to see that headline, so there you go. 3 p.m. ET around the dial; if you’re tuned in, comment below. We’ll be taping so look for video here later in case Biden cracks a fried chicken joke or pats Obama on the head or does something else refreshingly politically incorrect for the left to coo over. Your exit question while you wait: Where does this leave McCain with his own VP pick? Stephen Hayes and Tom Bevan offer unconvincing answers (Lieberman and, er, John Kasich, respectively), but Bevan’s analysis is otherwise spot on. If Obama had named Hillary, Maverick might have been forced to throw a Hail Mary with Joementum or Palin or Carly Fiorina. As it is, one safe pick permits another, which means Mitt or Pawlenty. The latter’s safer than the former among the base, but I can’t see undecideds handing the keys to the country to a guy no one outside of Minnesota has ever heard of. I have to think it’s Mitt.
Special bonus exit question: Why exactly is Palin a worse choice than Pawlenty? I swear I remember seeing a poll somewhere that McCain would actually lose points from picking a woman VP, but after 20 minutes of googling I can’t find it. Can anyone help?
Update: Hotline’s on the same page.
Update: You know who this helps, asks Hugh Hewitt? Mitt Romney.
Update: Commenters have dubbed this the “Clean and Jerk” ticket.
Update: Obama-NBC has video of both speeches uncut.
Update: Bill Amos found the poll I was looking for. Why Pawlenty is better than Palin:
For all the chatter about the pros and cons of picking a female vice president, a new poll commissioned by Lifetime finds that women are not particularly likely to be influenced by the selection of a lady VP. In the poll, 55% of women say that Obama’s selection of a female running mate would make no difference to their voting choice, and 62% said the same of McCain. (A Republican woman VP could actually hurt McCain. A full 20% responded that they would be LESS likely to support the GOP nominee if he selected a female on the ticket.)
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aero on August 23, 2008 at 3:32 PM-I’m learning every day-semiotic was a new word for me-thanks!
So Joe was just Biden his time for 35 years in the Senate until someone asked him to be veep? Biden is probably the best pick the Dems could come up with, as Al Franken is busy running for the Senate.
Doug on August 23, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Did you see the Dim commercial where they zoom in on McCain’s expensive shoes — and even draw a red circle around them? Meanwhile, Michelle Obama boasts a collection of $800 a pair Jimmy Choo shoes, but nobody’s supposed to mention that.
AZCoyote on August 23, 2008 at 4:18 PM
The glamour boys swear they are a diva
The glamour boys have it all under control
Always dancing and always laughing
The glamour boys are playing the role
The glamour boys never have no money
The glamour boys wear the most expensive clothes
The glamour boys are always at the party
Where the money comes from heaven only knows….
Sgt. Hartman on August 23, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Barry O even took audiotapes of ‘Reverend’ Wright’s sermons with him to Harvard, so he could listen to them over and over and learn to mimic Wright’s delivery.
AZCoyote on August 23, 2008 at 4:35 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong, but a VP pick is supposed to give you a spike, not maintain your flatline, right?
Could Obama have picked a less exciting running mate?
Got a feeling Biden wasn’t the first pick or even the third pick; rather, he was the only guy on the list to accept…
Hope McCain’s paying attention to this carefully as a textbook example of what not to do.
In every aspect of making a VP pick and announcement.
SuperCool on August 23, 2008 at 4:36 PM
Obama/Binladen awesome!
custer on August 23, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Having been on govt assistance is an immediate “in” into the heart of the left. Isn’t that odd? “Single mother on welfare”. Ohhhhh, Ahhhh. Waited until marriage to have kids, husband had a job, never took govt assistance — Boo. Bad. Bad. Very boring. Probable Republican.
Paul-Cincy on August 23, 2008 at 5:00 PM
What got me about both of their speeches is that they droned on and on about how everyone who works hard and doesn’t quit will become a success like they are… how that is the American way. (btw, I agree with them that)
And yet, they both believe that their audience is incapable of doing exactly that without government handouts. They want to punish the rich (>$200k) and take the profits of corporations, and redistribute it to people who don’t work as hard or smart, or who quit.
And they don’t seem to see the inconsistency and the lack of logic and reason in their own statements. At the convention they will parade out a whole list of real people who just cannot solve their own problems. Instead of encouraging everyone to do what they did (work hard and never give up) they want us all to feel guilty for being more succesful than the losers in our society.
pappy on August 23, 2008 at 5:00 PM
now the new clean articulate messiah has his false prophet!
right4life on August 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Those are some good initial slings of mud at Obama/Biden.
And when McCain announces his VP, the left will takes huge dumps on him/her in the same fashion, and you will all cry foul.
Dave Rywall on August 23, 2008 at 5:25 PM
there is no candidate but Obama
and Biden is his (big)mouthpiece
sulla on August 23, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Dave:
Oh please, don’t act all put out. Poor baby Democrats, everyone is soooo mean to them.
Hey, maybe the Republicans should make an ad about Michele’s shoes. I hear they run about $800 a pair. After all, that seems to be the kind of campaign the Democrats want to run.
Terrye on August 23, 2008 at 5:35 PM
D.Rywall you have to be seething over this VP pick, yes?
And if you say that you aren’t you are not being totally honest.
carbon_footprint on August 23, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Democrat dream recovery plan
sonnyspats1 on August 23, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Tough day, isn’t it Dave? Buck up, you’ll have your shot, but down deep you just know that unless McCain really goes mavericky, none of the potential pubbie candidates are as delightful to behold as Greasy Joe. Sure, you can whine a bit about the GOP pick, but it won’t have the BITE that Barry’s judgment gives us to use. Just don’t get suicidal or anything, you’ve had a sinking feeling about Barry for some time now, so this exhibition of his judgment shouldn’t shock too much.
a capella on August 23, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Biden gave AN ENTIRE SPEECH that was plagiarized
the speech was ABOUT DETIALS OF HIS LIFE GROWING UP rather than some policy speech.
Biden LIED FOR 10 - 15 MINUTES
Janos Hunyadi on August 23, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Link or source? I did read somewhere he claimed to be from a coal mining family, which was discredited.
a capella on August 23, 2008 at 5:49 PM
I pressed the ’submit’ button by mistake, but said most of what I meant to say. This is not some gaffe or ‘clean articulate’ remark; Biden stood there and talked extensively about his family life as a child, and every word was a lie.
HE STONE AN ENTIRE SPEECH–AN ENTIRE CHILDHOOD–FROM NEIL KINNOCK
You can’t do that and ever be taken seriously again ( expect maybe by Dem voters in 3 counties in a slowly-dying mini-state )
WTF is wrong with the Dems? People outside the Odd Incestuous World of Delaware politics aren’t idiots, are they? Did I miss something……………..
Janos Hunyadi on August 23, 2008 at 5:50 PM
“STOLE” an entire speech, although maybe Biden was stoned
Google it, a capella. The transcript of Biden’s speech is in the NYT and WaPo archives, and Kinnock’s speech is on video somewhere. I heard the Kinnock speech, then read the coverage of Biden
It ended his 1988 campaign–as it should have. I’ve been studying poliltics since the 1960’s, and have never seen anything like this.
Janos Hunyadi on August 23, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Dave Rywall on August 23, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Oh, please. Like this is the We Love John McCain site. And you know damn well that the only time people on this site gripe about what the Dems say is either a quote from an unbiased journalist or something so awful that it shouldn’t come out of humans’ mouth. Get over yourself.
Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Biden Message Today: I was against John McCain AFTER I was for him!
Mutnodjmet on August 23, 2008 at 6:06 PM
If Biden weren’t a chronic “borrower” of ideas, a fibber, and an exaggerator, then he could get by with two or three transgressions over a career, but he exaggerates all the time. He makes up stuff all the time. Then he just grins and says “I misspoke,” and for some reason the public just laughs, “Oh that Joe,” and forgives him.
RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 6:08 PM
You Naive Obama and Angry White guy..
don’t think it’s comes off so well.
BTW, Joe looks like he needs some more hair-plugs in the back..
Chakra Hammer on August 23, 2008 at 6:09 PM
No we won’t. Crying is for babies.
Entelechy on August 23, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Young Naive Obama and Angry old White fart..
don’t think it’s comes off so well.
BTW, Joe looks like he needs some more hair-plugs in the back..
Chakra Hammer on August 23, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Joe Biden doesn’t have much use for Imus anymore but there was a time when he sang his praises. Sellin Out Joe? Say it ain’t So.
http://imustimes.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/imus-senator-biden-on-the-phone/
Dr Evil on August 23, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Kinnock???
Terrye on August 23, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Nice to see Obama’s pick has upset the bitter bumpkins so much.
McCain’s VP is the last chance for the bitter bumpkins to get any kind of representation in the next admin.
I bet he goes pro-abortion just to shut ‘em out…
alphie on August 23, 2008 at 6:38 PM
POL=O=TICKS, suck, I will continue to vote Conservitive but I hate all of them, it’s all bull sh-t, and they do zero for the American people.
foxone on August 23, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Happy days are here again
The skies above are clear again
McCain is gonna win, win, WIN
‘Cause Obama picked Bi-den!
Kafir on August 23, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Yeah there a pair all right no wonder Imus is supporting John McCain but it wasn’t always that way check out the lastest Imus Times blog and this these two could have been given the same democrat talking points how long has this been in the works.
http://bellalu0.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/obama-compares-massacre-of-30-students-to-verbal-violence-of-imus/
Dr Evil on August 23, 2008 at 6:46 PM
Rom. Uh-ney.
Seixon on August 23, 2008 at 6:50 PM
Dick Morris last night actually suggested McCain should pick Kay Bailey Hutchinson as his VP. WTF? Is he serious? I think his push for Condi (since he wrote a book about it) wouldn’t really help either.
I love Palin, but I think Romney might be stronger vs. Biden.
CP on August 23, 2008 at 6:51 PM
Dave Rywall on August 23, 2008 at 5:25 PM
We won’t cry foul dave, we expect that behavior from the sissies that identify themselves as Liberals…
No, no, no; we don’t cry foul dave, we shout back with truth & facts about the sissy MSM critters.
Wimps and Sissies, these are your mates dave.
Keemo on August 23, 2008 at 6:51 PM
I don’t think that poll takes into account the PUMA factor. I think a lot of PUMAs are going to vote for McCain out of spite. His having a female VP would bring in the rest. Maybe not Sarah Palin, but what about Christine Whitman? She has the executive experience as a governor; the business experience (she’s a director at Texas Instruments); She’s on the outs with the Bush admin, and she hails from NYC and NJ. The only downside is that she’s pro-choice, which may be the ultimate no-no now.
Kafir on August 23, 2008 at 6:54 PM
Neil Kinnock was the Opposition Leader in Parliament: the leader of the Labour Party during the 80s while Margaret Thatcher was PM.
He’s Welsh ( more or less ) and gave a routine speech about how his father would come home from the coal mines after a long hard day, but still have time to play football with little Neil. I think Biden is from Pa, and saw a chance to ‘relate’ ( a la Hillary Clinton telling kids in New Zealand that she was named after the Only Famous New Zealander: Sir Edmund Hillary, who climed Mt Everest in 1953 or so.
Problem there is that Hillary was born in 1946 or so
Hillary made a lying remark in a foreign country to children; Biden made an entire speech in a presidential campaign. There are lies, and then there are Enormous Lies
Janos Hunyadi on August 23, 2008 at 6:56 PM
I bet he goes pro-abortion just to shut ‘em out…
alphie on August 23, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Your man-child messiah is tanking, having lost (18) points in national polls since his return from the “I will save the world” tour. Face the facts alphie, your messiah is nothing other than a decent looking empty suit with a possible gift for the gab. Deep down in his inner soul, this man is haunted by his own ineptness; this man is angry at his own country; this man is 8-12 years away from being ready to run a national campaign for potus. Talk all the cheap crap you want alphie, your candidate will still be tanking despite your desperation & denial…
Keemo on August 23, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Update up top says poll indicates 20% less would vote for McCain with a woman VP candidate.
a capella on August 23, 2008 at 7:01 PM
a capella, if you Google Neil Kinnock, the second entry ( after a Wiki bio ) is a Wiki bio of Joseph Robinette Biden
their names are forever linked in history………..
Janos Hunyadi on August 23, 2008 at 7:03 PM
BTW alphie,
I dare you to listen to Rush Limbaugh on Monday. Joe Biden has as many (or more) skeletons in the closet than Hillary, and that is saying a lot. Rush Limbaugh has a library of sound bites and information on Biden in his own words… It’s going to be a field day; open season on one Mr. Joe Biden. Open season on one Mr. Barack Hussein Obama has already started, in case you didn’t notice. The only positive about Mr. Biden, is that he is not the typical sissy that comes with most Liberal men.
Keemo on August 23, 2008 at 7:04 PM
The poll notwithstanding, Palin for VP? I’d vote for a candidate for POTUS if he had a qualified female VP running mate without hesitation… but a wholly unqualified bitter female with a personal vendetta who uses her Queenship powers to lash out at people for personal reasons? NEVER in a lifetime.
SilverStar830 on August 23, 2008 at 7:04 PM
You must be referring to Hillary.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 7:16 PM
Are you referring to the bitter gun and religion clinging rural voters with antipathy towards people different from themselves… or are you saying that you and your ilk are better than everyone else because you don’t live in the country… or are you saying that all Republicans are bitter gun & religion clinging antipathic country bumpkins?
I really don’t follow what you’re trying to say. I mean, regardless of who wins POTUS, American “bumpkins” are still being represented since they (whatever bumpkins are to you) still live in this country and are, in fact, your neighbors and maybe even among your friends and family.
And that’s truly not a very nice way to treat people who are different than you, Alphie. Some might even call that “elitist” and “snobby”. Hmmmm… where have I heard that before?
SilverStar830 on August 23, 2008 at 7:16 PM
Understand that poll was aimed at women. Men have no problem with a female VP but women are much harder on women candidates.
I think Palin could win them over. I think that 20% of women are hard core Feminists who would veiw a GOP candidate picking a woman as just a publicity stunt.
William Amos on August 23, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Did I read that right? 20% of women would be less likely to vote for McCain if he picked a woman?
Typhonsentra on August 23, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Nope. I’m referring to the Alaskan Governor, Sarah Palin, whom is currently under investigation for using her Queenship powers to carry out a personal vendetta against her sister’s ex-husband and ultimately his boss.
SilverStar830 on August 23, 2008 at 7:24 PM
Lifetime poll on women, past Hillary effort, including methodology used.
Entelechy on August 23, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Rob Portman and Tim Pawlenty seem to be out of the running. I sent Allah the info hopefully he will put it up soon.
William Amos on August 23, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Sometimes they pick a VP who has the same flaws as the prez candidate but exaggerated. Quayle is inarticulate preppy next to Bush, Gore is big southerner policy wonk to Clinton, and now Biden is freewheeling talker who puts foot in mouth all the time. They make the prez candidate’s worst qualities look almost normal by comparison.
Paul-Cincy on August 23, 2008 at 7:45 PM
These Palin supporters will barely remember who she was in four years after her popularity in Alaska falls off and four years takes a little toll on her “cuteness”.
lowandslow on August 23, 2008 at 7:45 PM
that polling looks so flawed to me.
Chakra Hammer on August 23, 2008 at 7:50 PM
I will clarify my earlier remark just in case Allah is busy for a while
Rob Portman just told US News that he is not a VP candidate
TIm Pawlenty just told a local TV station that he will be in Minnesota the day McCain announces his VP candidate in Ohio.
However Tim Pawlenty also said Obama should have picked Petraeus for his VP spot. Read into that whatever you will
William Amos on August 23, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Oh alphie
How do you like the obambi ramming mr I voted for the war in Iraq down your throat as his vp?
Mr. Obama doesn’t have the experience to be president?
Mr. I would be proud to serve with McCain?
Mr. McCain is the only one on the other side qualified to be President?
Please excuse my crudeness but obambi just took a shit on his netroot supporters.
LMAO!
ArmyAunt on August 23, 2008 at 7:51 PM
See my comment, above, at 7:31 PM, for complete poll.
Entelechy on August 23, 2008 at 7:53 PM
I agree with Bevan. Kasich would be the best pick for McCain, and it’s looking more likely every day.
forest on August 23, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Oh, and I’ve noticed the trolls have been active on this topic. As always, I take that as a sign that this is not a favorable development for Obama.
forest on August 23, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Kasich might be out. He is suppose to be at the DNC and RNC conventions as a commentator.
Multichannel
William Amos on August 23, 2008 at 7:58 PM
I’ve a question. If Obama is elected and the US rapidly speeds up its slippery slide down the liberal/socialist rat-hole, what county can I move to??
Rod on August 23, 2008 at 8:06 PM
BTW there is some backlash against Romney based on McCain’s house gaffe. Some think that will push Romney’s chances down because Romney has similar issues.
William Amos on August 23, 2008 at 8:10 PM
The poll actually says 20% less likely vs. 15% more likely to vote McCain if he chose a woman, a net loss of 5% of women.
But, I still think it would be a net gain; African Americans and Hispanics were oversampled in the poll, and they strongly leaned against McCain.
mockmook on August 23, 2008 at 8:11 PM
Also, what would be the net gain (if any) from men if McCain selected a woman? It might cancel any net loss of women.
mockmook on August 23, 2008 at 8:13 PM
Biden seems like a good choice, Auntie.
The press seems to really like him and he seems to upset your kind, too.
Another win for Obamai…another loss for the bitter bumpkins.
alphie on August 23, 2008 at 8:14 PM
That’s a qualification? Heh.
Spirit of 1776 on August 23, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Mars, best choice, but not a country…Switzerland and Ireland are the only two with steely cojones, for now. Or, an island, just to have a good time for a while. No need to work hard under such an admin.
Entelechy on August 23, 2008 at 8:19 PM
alphie on August 23, 2008 at 8:14 PM
“he seems to upset your kind, too” I don’t know about the rest of “your kind” but I am tickled pink with the choice of Senator Biden. Couldn’t have done better if I made the choise myself.
Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 8:40 PM
You know, it’s probably not a very good idea to refer to voters as “bitter bumpkins”. Indeed, since Gasbag Joe intends to milk his Scranton, PA roots, it’s a doubly poor idea.
But you go right ahead and see how many votes you can round up for your buddies!
Buy Danish on August 23, 2008 at 8:41 PM
I’m forget. Was Marx giving this speech today?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Oh I am DELIGHTED with Biden!
The press will crucify him for his gaffes and him and obambi…the clean and jerk team are practically writing McCains ads for him lol.
BTW are Republicans “bitter bumpkins” or “rich elitists”?
Need to get your story straight alphie.
Ah well, when McCain wins I am sure you will dissapear, just like your wimpy hero obambi will.
ArmyAunt on August 23, 2008 at 8:46 PM
Um, last I checked, we’re trying to pick up white, working-class women, not minorities. Seriously sloppy work on your part, Allah.
Damian G. on August 23, 2008 at 8:54 PM
Portman out.
Pawlenty in Minnesota friday.
You know who this benefits?
YES!
jjshaka on August 23, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Sorry if this has been mentioned before (maybe I missed it), but am I the only one who has a hunch that Biden may NOT have been Obama’s first choice? According to all reports he chose Biden on Thursday Night. That’s awfully late in the game to be picking a VP, especially considering the announcement had been scheduled for Saturday well before that.
Oh, and as for the new Obama/Biden signs…at first glance you can hardly notice “Biden” on there. Hmmmmmmm?
Miss_Anthrope on August 23, 2008 at 9:13 PM
William Amos on August 23, 2008 at 8:10 PM
I am more than a little sick of those folks making all the “rules” the debate format, the media coverage, and now how many houses participants can have. I think Senator Biden has enough baggage that we don’t have to worry about how many homes our candidates own.
Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Wow!! Kind of hard on Sarah while just telling half the story. Typical liberal response–except for their own of course. As for feminists seeing her as a publicity stunt? Don’t you grumps just wish!! I don’t care what polls have to say about it. Feminists will cheer and get on board is my prediction–except possibly black feminists who will most certainly have schizoid issues about it. If I were not on board already, Sarah’s inclusion would certainly put me there. As for losing her “cuteness”–that remark sounds like the junior high boys sitting at the back of the school bus.
jeanie on August 23, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Alphie,
You don’t like nice and friendly discourse much do you?
terryannonline on August 23, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Biden will be essential for Obama to win Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania.
Other than being a shill for Obama in the Rust Belt…what does Biden bring to the table?
coldwarrior on August 23, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Upset???? My God this is like St Patricks Day, Christmas, New Years all rolled into one and without the hangover.
Did you see those 2 pantloads botch each others introductions????? And that was in the first few minutes of being together.
Chuck Schick on August 23, 2008 at 9:57 PM
I want McCain to pick Palin just to watch that condscending gas bag have to deal with playing the attack dog while sitting across the desk from a mother of five.
jwt4412@yahoo.com on August 23, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Spare me, I you don’t think Palin’s physical appearance isn’t one of the main reasons for her appeal in this VP speculation I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
lowandslow on August 23, 2008 at 10:43 PM
I baked a Bumpkin Pie one Thanksgiving. It wasn’t bitter at all.
Beto Ochoa on August 23, 2008 at 11:30 PM
It was standup comedy at its finest.
Beto Ochoa on August 23, 2008 at 11:32 PM
I have some doubts on those surveys. It was not a true random sample.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 24, 2008 at 12:32 AM
That Lifetime “poll” couldn’t have been more obvious if it said “Please don’t choose Palin!”
BTW, does anybody have a substantive argument against Palin? One that doesn’t reek of sexism, or re-hash the smear attempt?
A charismatic, pro-life Governor who appeals to swing voters and highlights the domestic energy issue. That beats all the other choices.
Mr. Wednesday Night on August 24, 2008 at 12:44 AM
Speaking of polls, Scott Rasmussen said on the Hannity radio show that Sarah Palin would be McCain’s best choice.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest that his polling credentials are better than Lifetime’s.
http://palinforvp.blogspot.com/2008/07/sean-hannity-scott-rasmussen-and-big.html
Mr. Wednesday Night on August 24, 2008 at 1:53 AM
My point is that the poll was taken before Obama announced his VP choice. Faced with the reality that McCain’s VP selection is the only opportunity left for a woman to get a spot on the ticket, I wonder how that would change the numbers.
Kafir on August 24, 2008 at 8:18 AM
what I want to know is when did golden joe get that hair, I just watched his IQ video from 1988 and he didn’t have nearly as much as he does now?
la.rt.wngr on August 24, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Let’s be realistic here. I really like Palin. She will definately be in play for 2012. Alaska needs her right now and so does her 4 month old baby. We will most likely have a Jindal/Palin ticket for 2012.
The main concern for us now is to get McCain elected and kick Obama’s ass into oblivion.
Winebabe on August 24, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Palin wins it for McCain
she brings in a Huge oil state
Pulls a LARGE portion of Hillary voters
she hot, and fresh
…and there is a reason she has an 80% approval rate.. people freakin’ love her… the only on comparable candidate is Colon Powell..
Romney or Pawlenty will lose the race for McCain…
DarianCounts on August 24, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Are you guys hearing these talking head pundits on tv twisting themselves into pretzels trying to put lipstick on this pig of a VP selection? It is laughable. We have to suspend a belief in reality and believe this alternate world that Biden is a good pick because:
1) He has been in Washington for 36 years, more than half his life and almost all of his adult life yet he is not part of the Washington DC insider’s club because he takes Amtrak home everynight to nearby Deleware.
2) He is such a regular guy, he knows the train conductors by name (subtle implied message, since almost every time I have been on a train and the conductors/porters are usually African Americans, Biden is just a regular guy who gets along with working minorities)
3) He was born in Sranton, PA (so?!!)
4) He lost his wife in a car accident 36 years ago, and his daughter. Yes, it was a tragedy, we all have tragedies in our lives. My brother died from AIDS.
5) He relates to the working class, his mom was on food stamps. When is the last time he grabbed a beer with Joe 6 pack at the corner bar? When was the last time he had to worry about making the rent himself? What a blowhard
6) He brings experience to the ticket but it doesn’t REALLY mean the top of the ticket lacked experience. After all the top of the ticket has the JUDGMENT to lead. Oh really? Are you trying to sell me swamp land, too?
7) Joe Biden knows the same foreign heads of states as McCain. Ummm, so, and John McCain is at the TOP of his party’s ticket, not in the VP slot.
These are the ridiculous statements that these blowhards are robotically parroting on all of the news channels. BARF!!!
By the way, what is this so called scandal someone was illuding to about Palin and her sister’s ex husband?
I really hope he picks Palin. Biden won’t be able to be a butthole during the debate to an awesome woman of these credentials without looking like the butthole we know him to be in real life.
karenhasfreedom on August 24, 2008 at 9:26 PM
It just keeps getting better all the time.
Government of the clueless, by the clueless, for the clueless … here we come !
RedPepper on August 25, 2008 at 11:45 AM
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