Biden’s foreign-policy chops

posted at 10:30 am on August 23, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Many believe that Barack Obama chose Joe Biden for his running mate to address a profound weakness on foreign policy.  Power Line points out an example of the Biden prowess on foreign relations that first appeared in The New Republic’s profile of Biden from October 2001.  In a vignette at the end of the article, Biden ponders mightily over how the US should respond to 9/11:

At the Tuesday-morning meeting with committee staffers, Biden launches into a stream-of-consciousness monologue about what his committee should be doing, before he finally admits the obvious: “I’m groping here.” Then he hits on an idea: America needs to show the Arab world that we’re not bent on its destruction. “Seems to me this would be a good time to send, no strings attached, a check for $200 million to Iran,” Biden declares. He surveys the table with raised eyebrows, a How do ya like that? look on his face.

The staffers sit in silence. Finally somebody ventures a response: “I think they’d send it back.” Then another aide speaks up delicately: “The thing I would worry about is that it would almost look like a publicity stunt.” Still another reminds Biden that an Iranian delegation is in Moscow that very day to discuss a $300 million arms deal with Vladimir Putin that the United States has strongly condemned. But Joe Biden is barely listening anymore. He’s already moved on to something else.

First, Iranians aren’t Arabs.  They’re Persians, as both Arabs and Iranians would quickly point out to anyone ignorant of the distinction.  They have no relation linguistically or culturally, except that both are predominantly Islamic. One would expect a foreign-policy expert to know at least that much.  Team Obama ridiculed John McCain when he inadvertently mixed up Sunnis and Shi’ites, but this is much more fundamental.

Beyond that, what would a check for $200 million have bought us with the Iranians?  We know what it would have bought for the Iranians — more resources for the nuclear-weapons program already in progress in Tehran.  Bear in mind that this was shortly after the attacks on New York City and Washington had caused billions of dollars in damage and perhaps trillions in economic impact, not to mention the 3,000 lives that terrorists ended on that day.  If Biden wanted to spend $200 million, maybe he would have thought to spend it on Americans, and not the nation that even then was the acknowledged leader in financing terrorism around the world.

I’m sorry, but a man who thinks it appropriate to send hundreds of millions of dollars — “no strings attached” — to a terror-sponsoring regime in order to make America a supplicant of radicals is no foreign-policy genius.  (via Power Line)


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Connie on August 23, 2008 at 10:32 AM

Picture is too big.

It is only trying to compensate for their combined ego.

TroubledMonkey on August 23, 2008 at 10:36 AM

Rush is going to have to be on the air 8 hours a day to get all the goodies out there on Biden. This is going to be some kind of fun.
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letget on August 23, 2008 at 10:36 AM

Maybe it’s a clever plot to tie McCain’s campaign in knots by having to compile “the complete list” of Biden gaffes. They could be collecting embarrassing Biden material from now till election day and never get done.

RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 10:37 AM

I seriously thought that Biden was on the short list as a joke. The man has been a laughing stock in DC forever. Just goes to show you that the Obama campaign is full of idiots.

Buzzy on August 23, 2008 at 10:40 AM

The staffers sit in silence. Finally somebody ventures a response: “I think they’d send it back.” Then another aide speaks up delicately: “The thing I would worry about is that it would almost look like a publicity stunt.” Still another reminds Biden that an Iranian delegation is in Moscow that very day to discuss a $300 million arms deal with Vladimir Putin that the United States has strongly condemned. But Joe Biden is barely listening anymore. He’s already moved on to something else.

Ed, the best part is in the last two sentences. Fits Biden perfectly. Premature emissions and all that.

a capella on August 23, 2008 at 10:42 AM

If by some evil miracle, Biden had managed to send $200m to the Persians, I wonder what the Arabs would have thought about it?

Kafir on August 23, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Ed broke Hot Air. heh

abinitioadinfinitum on August 23, 2008 at 10:46 AM

It’s a brilliant play by Obama and company. Biden takes all the hits diverting attention away from Barack Obama’s lack of credibility as a Presidential candidate. Even better, the Clinton supporters are ticked, diverting even more attention for The One! Nicely played.

Ordinary1 on August 23, 2008 at 10:46 AM

Nevermind, just talked with one of my DEM buddies they think Biden is a genius at foreign policy and everything everyone is saying about him are lies. My bad, forgot liberalism is a disease.

Buzzy on August 23, 2008 at 10:47 AM

You know who this benefits? Mitt Romney.

hanzblinx on August 23, 2008 at 10:49 AM

A heartbeat away from foreign aid to Iran. If you don’t have the vision, wisdom, and guts to beat ‘em, might as well join ‘em. We could be part of the axis of evil. Solves the Russia/Georgia mess too. Brilliant!

Ordinary1 on August 23, 2008 at 10:49 AM

Great foreign policy experience huh? yeah right

2theright on August 23, 2008 at 10:50 AM

I’m sorry, but a man who thinks it appropriate to send hundreds of millions of dollars — “no strings attached” — to a terror-sponsoring regime in order to make America a supplicant of radicals is no foreign-policy genius.

Bingo, and I bet your i.q. is way higher than his :)

By the way, Biden is on the record wanting to cut our military by $350 billion so he can fund healthcare, education and the environment (he specifically opposes “Star Wars”).

He also wants compulsory public service for men and women (military, Domestic Peace Corps, or foreign peace corps) so if elected it’s fair to say that neither Barack or Biden will let us live our lives as we have before.

I’m not sure what a Domestic Peace Corps is supposed to do exactly, but no doubt they could be deployed to check our thermostats and make sure we’re not eating more than our fair share.

Buy Danish on August 23, 2008 at 10:51 AM

As Hillary plots deep into the night…

sabbott on August 23, 2008 at 10:52 AM

You wonder if Biden has ADHD.

drjohn on August 23, 2008 at 10:53 AM

No, actually I don’t wonder.

drjohn on August 23, 2008 at 10:53 AM

Reminds me of the Powers That Be in Europe and America in the late 1700s who thought paying off the Barbary Pirates was a good idea. Til TJ decided to read their book, and realized that popping them in the nose was the only answer.

bikermailman on August 23, 2008 at 10:53 AM

“Seems to me this would be a good time to send, no strings attached, a check for $200 million to Iran,”

Wow, running toward his dhimmitude to pay his/our jizya tax to his/our masters.

abinitioadinfinitum on August 23, 2008 at 10:53 AM

Oh God. I’d never heard that anecdote before. A $200 million check to Iran? What was Biden thinking?!!

Jill1066 on August 23, 2008 at 10:55 AM

What was Biden thinking?!!

Jill1066 on August 23, 2008 at 10:55 AM

He wasn’t. He doesn’t.

coldwarrior on August 23, 2008 at 10:56 AM

$200 million here, $200 million there, and pretty soon you’re talking about real money!

misterpeasea on August 23, 2008 at 11:00 AM

Like a stopped clock, Biden is right twice a day. Unfortunately, it’s not during working hours. My guess is 7 am, and 7 pm.

RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 11:01 AM

This is making it easier and easier for me to vote for McCain in November. It can’t get much better than this for the Republicans (unless the D convention goes horribly, horribly wrong, which we can only hope for!).

rmgraha on August 23, 2008 at 11:01 AM

Biden is who Caroline Kennedy thinks is the best choice? Well, okay.

Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 11:03 AM

Like a stopped clock, Biden is right twice a day.

RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 11:01 AM

I disagree; he’s more like a clock that’s set four hours too slow — he’s never right.

rmgraha on August 23, 2008 at 11:04 AM

I think Hillary is licking her chops.

Standby for Canklerama at the Dem convention.

fogw on August 23, 2008 at 11:05 AM

Its almost as if Biden said it just to hear himself talk.

Bishop on August 23, 2008 at 11:06 AM

Yeah, I’m thinking DEM meltdown at the roll call vote.

Buzzy on August 23, 2008 at 11:08 AM

Biden is who Caroline Kennedy thinks is the best choice? Well, okay.

Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 11:03 AM

She probably told BO “Biden is the best choice for VP for the Republicans,” but Barry stopped listening after ‘VP.’

rmgraha on August 23, 2008 at 11:09 AM

If by some evil miracle, Biden had managed to send $200m to the Persians, I wonder what the Arabs would have thought about it?

Kafir on August 23, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Same thing they think now, Ignorant Americans!

abinitioadinfinitum on August 23, 2008 at 11:14 AM

First, Iranians aren’t Arabs. They’re Persians, as both Arabs and Iranians would quickly point out to anyone ignorant of the distinction. They have no relation linguistically or culturally, except that both are predominantly Islamic.

How dare you question Biden’s knowledge of such matters! How dare you, sir! Clearly he’s got a better grip on things than you do here…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM19YOqs7hU

“I’ve had a great relationship. In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking,” Biden said.

RightWinged on August 23, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Why the heck is Joe Scarbourough wetting his pants over Joe Biden??

justinok on August 23, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Well lucky for her, after the loss, she is under the bus proof

Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 11:18 AM

RightWinged on August 23, 2008 at 11:15 AM

McCain needs to make a commercial:

Biden..in his own words.

And paste together all of these clips. It’d be the best ad ever.

lorien1973 on August 23, 2008 at 11:20 AM

Rush is going to have to be on the air 8 hours a day to get all the goodies out there on Biden. This is going to be some kind of fun.

letget on August 23, 2008 at 10:36 AM

Maybe this will distract us from all the gooddies out there on Obama. Interesting strategy is to pick a VP who is worse than you, thereby making you look better, or something like that… or not…

Lawrence on August 23, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Why the heck is Joe Scarbourough wetting his pants over Joe Biden??

justinok on August 23, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Was wondering that myself, interesting thing is that most of the “independent” voters I know like Biden much more than either Obama or McCain. But this doesn’t mean that Biden is actually going to help Obama.

Lawrence on August 23, 2008 at 11:32 AM

Was wondering that myself, interesting thing is that most of the “independent” voters I know like Biden much more than either Obama or McCain. But this doesn’t mean that Biden is actually going to help Obama.

Lawrence on August 23, 2008 at 11:32 AM

That’s bull – Biden could barely get 1% of his primaries.

TexasJew on August 23, 2008 at 11:36 AM

I’m sorry, but a man who thinks it appropriate to send hundreds of millions of dollars — “no strings attached” — to a terror-sponsoring regime in order to make America a supplicant of radicals is no foreign-policy genius. (via Power Line)

And no man with his so called roots in the so called “working class” would suggest such a insane concept. He is a world removed from reality, as is Barack Hussien Obama.

JonRoss on August 23, 2008 at 11:38 AM

I can’t decide whether I’m amused or appalled.

Joseph Biden has been a radical-left, collectivist, big-spending, Constitution-hating would-be autocrat from day one. I still remember distinctly during the Brady Law and assault weapons ban debate in 1993, when Biden obstinatly resisted any attempts at compromise- he was determined to launch both as a first step to the abolition of civilian firearms ownership in this country and wasn’t taking “no” for an answer. His finest (?) moment was pounding on the podium and shouting, “This is religious dogma!” regarding the bill as written. (Very Khrushchev-like- sublimate much, Joe?) How this squares with the Obamessiah’s sudden and new-found respect for the right to keep and bear arms is something I would expect the GOP to address in their ads- and the MSM to pretend they don’t know about.

The idea that money will buy us love from our enemies is nothing new with Biden, as he was always a big fan of bestowing large checks on the PLO under Arafat without asking what they intended to do with it. And he was also a strong advocate of Clinton’s “AmeriCorps”, which he apparently saw as a cross between the 3-C camps and the Wobblies- both of which he apparently approved of.

I think his presence on the ticket mainly proves that the Lightworker is even more arrogant and naive’ that I previously believed. It’s almost like someone told him that he needed a moderate Southern Democrat to “balance” the ticket, and his reasoning went, “Well, Edwards is out, Kerry is too much Teddy’s man… Hey, Delaware is south of Chicago, isn’t it?”

What a combination- a presidential candidate who wants you to believe he isn’t a socialist, and a VP candidate who openly acknowledges that he is one every time he opens his mouth.

I guess they are the ones they’ve been waiting for.

But i seriously doubt that anyone else is holding their breath in keen anticipation of the moment that these two narcissistic egomaniacs assume control. I certainly am not.

clear ether

eon

eon on August 23, 2008 at 11:38 AM

I’m serious. I think picking Biden is a clever plot to sleep deprive conservative pundits, while they work night and day compiling a list of Biden gaffes, until they finally realize they’ve only scratched the surface, and will never finish.

RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 11:38 AM

I’ll bet Chris Matthews’ legs are tingling like crazy!

exhelodrvr on August 23, 2008 at 11:42 AM

Representing the left, Senator Obama and Senator Biden.

And from the right Senator McCain and______.

Please let it be a Governor. Contrasted to Biden, McCain could make a bold statement and win an ignored segment by picking Governor Sarah Palin.

But I’d take Pawlenty or Romney.

bains on August 23, 2008 at 11:43 AM

I don’t know what speech he stole from Kinnock the Pillock, (and I really don’t want to know), but Kinnock was all for a world govt. His intention was to use the EU, the UN, and the ILO to foster this idea. His removal of the infamous Clause Four was designed to take power away from the British unions that could have got in the way of his grand dream. Note that he is now an EU Commissioner, and has been active in removing sovereignty from the member nations, handing it over to the all-encompassing EU.

If Biden holds to any of Kinnock’s views, he’s dangerous.

OldEnglish on August 23, 2008 at 11:48 AM

Reminds me of the Powers That Be in Europe and America in the late 1700s who thought paying off the Barbary Pirates was a good idea. Til TJ decided to read their book, and realized that popping them in the nose was the only answer.

bikermailman on August 23, 2008 at 10:53 AM

Full credit to Jefferson for preferring a military option, but he did allow for and then continue to pay tribute after the treaty which freed the American prisoners in Tripoli. It wasn’t till years later that that ended. Just fyi.

Spirit of 1776 on August 23, 2008 at 11:50 AM

I think it has to be Romney now. Part of Biden’s skill is his ability to shamelessly mislead, and deliver low blows while smiling. But Romney has already shown he can handle that, with grace, and without losing his temper. Romney is the obvious choice now.

RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 11:51 AM

Found it!

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on August 23, 2008 at 11:52 AM

I’m sorry, but a man who thinks it appropriate to send hundreds of millions of dollars — “no strings attached” — to a terror-sponsoring regime in order to make America a supplicant of radicals is no foreign-policy genius. (via Power Line)

I agree Obama picked a moron because Obama himself is an idiot and gaffe machine so, now the madia can just focus on Biden when he messes up and the late night comics can make fun of Biden and NOT Obama.. See how that works?

Hey Biden, Dave Letterman and all the late night libs should have a field day.

Chakra Hammer on August 23, 2008 at 11:53 AM

You know who this benefits? Mitt Romney.

hanzblinx on August 23, 2008 at 10:49 AM

If not just for the hair factor

JonRoss on August 23, 2008 at 11:58 AM

Obama is counting on the support of the young and the partisan. Neither group will care much about Biden’s old gaffes. Young people think history started on the day they were born, and the partisans just don’t care. That’s the whole essence of Obama’s campaign–History begins today. We don’t care about what happened yesterday.

RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 11:59 AM

Utterly mondalian. He’s a foreign policy weakling – and that’s one of the more flattering things you can say about him.

whitetop on August 23, 2008 at 12:00 PM

I think it has to be Romney now. Part of Biden’s skill is his ability to shamelessly mislead, and deliver low blows while smiling. But Romney has already shown he can handle that, with grace, and without losing his temper. Romney is the obvious choice now.

RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 11:51 AM

I thought that was Obama’s skill.. distorting what McCain said about 100 years war in Iraq, and the Rich making 5 million dollars..

Chakra Hammer on August 23, 2008 at 12:00 PM

Obama/Biden

Plagiarism you can believe in.

Words.. Just Words..

Chakra Hammer on August 23, 2008 at 12:02 PM

I thought that was Obama’s skill.. distorting what McCain said about 100 years war in Iraq, and the Rich making 5 million dollars..

Same skill McCain has. He did the same thing to Romney on Iraq in Florida. Shameful. But they’ve seem to put it behind them.

Spirit of 1776 on August 23, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Obama’s campaign–History begins today. We don’t care about what happened yesterday.

RBMN on August 23, 2008 at 11:59 AM

That is of course, unless a conservative was responsible somehow.

1GooDDaDDy on August 23, 2008 at 12:07 PM

“Seems to me this would be a good time to send, no strings attached, a check for $200 million to Iran,” Biden declares.

I’d like to buy the world a Coke…

whitetop on August 23, 2008 at 12:10 PM

Democrats might be looking for a Dan Quayle effect. You know, the Republicans spend so much time and resources going after Biden that Obama gets off scott free.

NorthernCross on August 23, 2008 at 12:11 PM

[exhelodrvr on August 23, 2008 at 11:42 AM]

David Brooks’ leg is.

Dusty on August 23, 2008 at 12:15 PM

“Seems to me this would be a good time to send, no strings attached, a check for $200 million to Iran,” Biden declares.

Now if only uncle Joe had the foresight to save that check for Hillary’s deficit campaign spending, Barack wouldn’t have to put the Hill n Bill Show in his convention.

Rovin on August 23, 2008 at 12:16 PM

This is unrelated to the topic, but it makes me laugh.

http://utube.smashits.com/video/NmRXH7RkCZQ/Joe-Biden-drunk-singing-gaffe-Obama-vice-president.html

flyfisher on August 23, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Words.. Just Words..
Chakra Hammer on August 23, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Words…Just someone elses’s words.

Bishop on August 23, 2008 at 12:17 PM

1GooDDaDDy on August 23, 2008 at 11:52 AM

Holy cow, that was great.

Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 12:18 PM

1GooDDaDDy on August 23, 2008 at 11:52 AM
flyfisher on August 23, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Thank you both for the laughs with my morning coffee. What a wonderful day this is!

HawaiiLwyr on August 23, 2008 at 12:25 PM

HawaiiLwyr on August 23, 2008 at 12:25 PM

Always here to look at things with a little lighter side of life.

If you can’t laugh, you’ll just start crying at the world.

Over.

1GooDDaDDy on August 23, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Team Obama ridiculed John McCain when he inadvertently mixed up Sunnis and Shi’ites, but this is much more fundamental [mixing Iranians and Arabs].

Not to Sunnis and Shiites it sure isn’t, otherwise we would not still be in Iraq, with 140,000 troops, after 5 and a half years.

MB4 on August 23, 2008 at 12:56 PM

If I were McCain I’d be putting in a call to John Bolton about now.

Bolton/Biden would be a VP debate for the ages.

Nichevo on August 23, 2008 at 12:57 PM

Do you think Obama will flip-flop on this, throw Joe under the bus, and be offended if anyone notices? Based on past experience, it is not beyond the realm of possibility.

Think_b4_speaking on August 23, 2008 at 1:25 PM

Biden’s a disaster. This has got to be God’s gift to the GOP: Obama and Biden, birds of a lying, deceitful feather…

See also, “Obama’s Veep: The Perfect Accompaniment of Lies and Deceit”:

http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2008/08/obamas-veep-perfect-accompaniment-of.html

Donald Douglas on August 23, 2008 at 1:34 PM

You know, Uncle Joe might be crazy, but he’s certainly not benign — especially when it comes to Iran.

Just a few of Joe’s greatest hits:

Biden Buddies Up To Pro-Iran Lobby – 4/15/02

“Some might call it reaching out to American Muslims. But to many Iranians living in California, a fund-raiser for Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.) at the home of a prominent pro-Iran lobbyist on Feb. 19 sent a wrongheaded message to the ruling clerics in Tehran.”

Biden slams Bush’s strategy on Tehran
Touts own record on foreign policy
- 10/27/07

“Joseph R. Biden Jr. called President Bush’s strategy to rein in Iran’s nuclear ambitions “mindless” and dangerous yesterday, asserting that radical elements in Pakistan and international terrorists pose graver nuclear threats to the United States.”

It’s not a reach to say that Joe Biden’s Iran policy is to the left of Obama, or at least it’s to the left of what little Obama has admitted about his Iran policy.

Nichevo on August 23, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Maybe the choice of Biden has little to do with the general election. His presence on the ticket makes it much harder for the Clintonistas to sink Barry at the convention. Biden is well connected with a lot of super delegates and labor leaders. And Democratic pseudo-intellectuals love him (which includes most of the party). Barry can get rid of him after Biden has gotten him safely past the convention.

snaggletoothie on August 23, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Maybe the choice of Biden has little to do with the general election. His presence on the ticket makes it much harder for the Clintonistas to sink Barry at the convention. Biden is well connected with a lot of super delegates and labor leaders. And Democratic pseudo-intellectuals love him (which includes most of the party). Barry can get rid of him after Biden has gotten him safely past the convention.

snaggletoothie on August 23, 2008 at 2:15 PM

What a diabolical and wicked synopsis snaggleT—-I love it!

Rovin on August 23, 2008 at 2:57 PM

Is it diabolical and wicked or is it just how He do? Just ask those who now dwell under the bus.

snaggletoothie on August 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Oh it gets much much worse Ed when it comes to Iran and Biden

This all needs to be highlighted:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/18/biden-iran-and-emboldening-the-enemy/

econavenger on August 23, 2008 at 8:08 PM