Awesomely awesome: Top Clinton advisors tell CNN they’re outraged by how she was treated; Update: Place her name in nomination for VP, urges Kristol
posted at 4:47 pm on August 23, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The only way this could be more awesomely awesome is if it involved robots. As it is, I’m downright woozy at the thought of what’s in store on Tuesday night.
A top Clinton advisor also told CNN they were “outraged,” over how the process was conducted.
“You can’t put [Obama VP vetters] Eric Holder and Carolyn Kennedy on an hour plane ride to Chappaqua just to check the box? They should have done it just for the optics,” this person said. “Barack never even said to her, ‘Here’s how I envision the job’– not one discussion with her about [the position].”
“They thought her supporters were mad before? They are really mad now,” this person also said. We knew it was never going to happen but you would have thought they might at least make a show of it.”
Former Clinton strategist Paul Begala echoed similar frustrations on CNN Friday night.
“I think there are a lot of Hillary voters who are going to say, ‘Hey, wait a minute, man. You said you were going to put her on the short list. You know, you didn’t even vet her. You didn’t call her. You didn’t seek her advice,’” Begala said. “By the way, he didn’t seek President Clinton’s advice either. He’s actually the guy who I think picked the best vice president in American history. You would think maybe you would sort of check in with him.”
Says another Hillary insider to the New York Post of picking Greasy Joe, “Maybe it was a death wish.” Team Barry’s defense to CNN is that, between 16 months of oppo research on her and another 16 years of media scrutiny, she’s already been vetted as thoroughly as anyone could be. Which is sheer nonsense: They’d surely want inside details on Bill’s relationships with Ron Burkle and Frank Giustra, not to mention any extracurriculars on the trail over the past six months. There’s always more you can learn by asking, unless they’d seriously have us believe that the Clintons — the Clintons — have no secrets left to tell. Your unanswerable exit question, per CNN’s source: Why, oh why, oh why, didn’t Barry O simply have her in for an interview and check the box?
Update: Devilishly clever. It’ll never happen, of course, but the very thought of it fills my heart with malicious glee.
So Hillary Clinton gets about 18 million votes in 2008, and isn’t even considered for–she apparently isn’t even given the courtesy of being consulted–the vice presidential pick. Joe Biden manages to persuade a few thousand (if that) Iowans to support him. And Barack Obama selects Biden? Normally, if the VP pick came from that year’s presidential field, it’s the runner-up (Kerry-Edwards in 2004, Reagan-Bush in 1980, Stevenson-Kefauver in 1952). (Lyndon Johnson in 1960 hadn’t entered the primaries.) And Biden wasn’t even the third most successful candidate this year (hi, John Edwards!), or fourth (Bill Richardson, I suppose), or fifth (Dennis Kucinich!)…
A modest suggestion to my justifiably outraged Democratic friends: Hillary’s name should be placed in nomination not for the presidency (Obama won that more or less fair and square)–but for the vice presidency. It would be an interesting roll call vote.
I groused to a friend yesterday about how insane it is that nominees have to contest 50 grueling primaries/caucuses to win the nomination but the next in line to the throne if they’re elected is chosen purely on their own say so. If the wisdom of Democratic voters is trustworthy enough to pick the top half of the ticket (superdelegates notwithstanding), why isn’t it trustworthy enough to pick the bottom half? If Hillary was a little older and had no shot at a run in 2016, I wonder whether she wouldn’t drop the good-soldier pretense she’s displaying now and take a shot at this idea.
A tidbit from Rasmussen for delegates and PUMAs to mull: “Women are notably less enthusiastic [about picking Biden] than men—33% of women say Biden was the right choice while 27% disagreed. Men, by a 46% to 24% margin, said that Obama made the right choice.”
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McCain nominate Palin and state openly Hillary can have either SecState or Interior if she chooses. Barry Bowsmile has left himself wide-open to losing Her Majesty’s PUMA brigades. Maybe if we were to offer to help Hillary retire her debtload she could pull a Zell.
sven10077 on August 23, 2008 at 4:52 PM
i feel like its christmas
trailortrash on August 23, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Get a mop, this convention’s gonna leave a stain!
SuperCool on August 23, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Allah — I just spit out my Diet Coke… HILARIOUS LINE!!! Thank you!
D2Boston on August 23, 2008 at 4:53 PM
This will make an excellent side show to the Obama/Biden gaffe fest next week.
Zorro on August 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Nobody but Bolton’s worthy to be secretary of state.
Hillary can have Interior.
SuperCool on August 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Is Gore not speaking at the convention?
mikeyboss on August 23, 2008 at 4:55 PM
This reinforces the idea that Palin should be the VP pick for McCain. Him picking a woman VP would turn a lot of disgruntled heads in the Hillary camp.
bj1126 on August 23, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Hillary treated viciously by Olbermann, Kos, and Arianna? Sarah Palin.
Don’t know the number of houses you own? Not another mega-millionaire – Palin.
Cute little kids on the opposition’s side? Palin.
Sons in the military on the opposition’s side? Palin. (Not Mitt and his polo pony boys.)
A bucket of ice cold water in he face of a Obama-bored public? Palin.
Marcus on August 23, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Will the Hillary delegates be able to deny Biden the official nomination during the vote? They are two seperate nominations afterall. Please let them put her name up for the top and VP slots!
Vive La Hillary.
SouthernGent on August 23, 2008 at 4:56 PM
I’ll attempt an answer. Two words: Michelle Obama.
There’s no love lost there!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Buford Gooch on August 23, 2008 at 4:56 PM
talk about woman scorned!! is it just me, or has Barack’s voice recently went up an octave or 2???
right4life on August 23, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Naahh…I see it more the ’60’s BATMAN TV series, after a fight: a hall filled with bikini-clad blondes dancing and shaking while shouting, “No peace! No justice!”
Dated, admittedly, but still awesomely awesome.
Lockstein13 on August 23, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Because he hates her guts, that’s why. Duh! The biggest message his campaign has sent since its inception is that the Clinton era is over.
Sucks to be Hillary.
rockmom on August 23, 2008 at 4:58 PM
I agree. Keep Hill and Bill far, far away from anything close to the WH.
INC on August 23, 2008 at 4:58 PM
The only worse choice for VP would have been Ayers. I presume Obama’s Nikes have little bullseyes painted on them.
E9RET on August 23, 2008 at 4:59 PM
“No justice. No
peacepizza.”My question: Why wasn’t Fal Al Sharpton vetted?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 4:59 PM
The Clinton’s have been dismissed. I am pretty sure that wasn’t the way to go because they have more inside information on what the office actually entails than anyone else in their party. And don’t forget there are tons of people who thought Bill Clinton was the best president EVER. (I can’t help it.) And those are the people that vote not these kids fawning around The One. But I am sure it will be different for him. Right? But then you have to take Begala with a huge grain of salt when he comes out with Algore, current snake oil salesman, being the best Veep in American History. I hope nobody slipped in all the bullsh*t he got on the floor.
Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 4:59 PM
And so many Conservatives were soo dispirit over this election cycle.
Keep the liberals away from sharp objects or there’ll be fish guts all over the place.
Speakup on August 23, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Paul Begala is a moron. Al Gore was the best vice president in American history??? Is that what he was actually saying??? Are these people delusional??
robblefarian on August 23, 2008 at 5:04 PM
Maybe we can recreate 68 by sundown in Denver.
JammieWearingFool on August 23, 2008 at 5:04 PM
SuperCool on August 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Don’t get me wrong, I love John Bolton but any chance of his being put into elected office or a position requiring Senate approval isn’t going to happen. Complete honesty is seldom rewarded by either party. Don’t forget that the Dems think McCain is a loose cannon.
Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Will Bill or Hill drop out? That would tick it up a couple more awesome notches, wouldn’t it?
Weight of Glory on August 23, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Are these people delusional??
robblefarian on August 23, 2008 at 5:04 PM
At the very least.
Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Stupendously awesome! I have tingles going up both legs now!
darwin on August 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Do you think Hillary feels like the only female in a “foursome”, where when it was over, all the guys got up, grabbed a beer, slapped a high five, then left……….?
Seven Percent Solution on August 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM
“Top Clinton advisors tell CNN they’re outraged by how she was treated”
Yeah? So what? She lost. She is a LOSER. Winners get to feel good. Did the Clinton advisers think that she was somehow going to be treated respectably, after her lifetime of arrogance and contempt for others?
“Why doesn’t Obama help her retire her debt?”
Because she is the one who ran up the bills in a losing bid.
Winners at a poker table don’t share their winnings-why should Obama?
If I were a Democrat, I’d be outraged at my Party for playing to lose. Obama/Biden is proof that they are not serious about winning.
Doug on August 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM
I thought they loved mccain, since he has consistently advanced their agenda!
right4life on August 23, 2008 at 5:08 PM
“Do you think Hillary feels like the only female in a “foursome”, where when it was over, all the guys got up, grabbed a beer, slapped a high five, then left……….?
Seven Percent Solution on August 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM”
Ouch.
LtE126 on August 23, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Only way Bolton is getting in is if we pick up the majority for approval, which makes me sick. He is the best man for the job, maybe ever.
redshirt on August 23, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Perhaps if we were to exert the same level of pressure on the clowns in congress that we did over Shamnesty we could get them to bend to the will of The People again and secure the post for the best man for the job.
It’s still WE The People and that’s a point that needs to be brought home with authority to the dopes on The Hill.
SuperCool on August 23, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Hmm. I wonder if Hillary Clinton will announce an intention to run for President anyway as an independent? It’ll guarantee McCain’s election, but it would be fun to watch.
hadsil on August 23, 2008 at 5:13 PM
It does…those are the Obama supporters.
JetBoy on August 23, 2008 at 5:14 PM
The minute he became the evil Republican nominee all of that changed. Conservatives, on the other hand, are having a Not Barak election.
Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 5:14 PM
I say the Kennedy’s have had a strong hand in this. It’s always been a fight between the two for control In 2004, the Kennedy’s won the right to run the Kerry election. They screwed up. I have no doubt they will screw this up, too.
The Kennedy’s are too far to the left, while palatable to the Obamaniacs, is distasteful to the rest of the country.
Blake on August 23, 2008 at 5:15 PM
but the new bi-racial messiah’s plagiarizing prophet said he would be proud to run with mccain…I’ve noticed they already have a commercial out about it…too funny.
right4life on August 23, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Um, Palin isn’t ready, and she is doing important work in Alaska right now. I am female and I don’t want the GOP to turn into the identity politics party.
On the Hillary stories–I still say she didn’t want the vp nomination, and doesn’t want the vp job in an Obama adminstration. But if people figure that out, the rational question becomes why not–and the democrats can’t publicly admit that only a loserific idiot like Biden would be willing to join Obama’s ticket. So, the press and loyal democrats (redundant) have to make it look like Obama’s VP nominee is some kind of wonderful job that anybody, even the great Hillary, would want.
They may succeed in calming the PUMAs down enough to keep them from making a scene at the convention, I guess. A whole lot of them will still vote for McCain.
funky chicken on August 23, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Hillary is hoping for a McCain win so Obama is hurt and she can run again in 2012. A lot of Dems now have buyers remorse over Obama so he won’t come back in 2012 and if he tries Hill will bury him.
DerKrieger on August 23, 2008 at 5:18 PM
I am loathe to have her near the ranch as well, that said the stakes are so high in keeping the kleptocrat Barry “Don’t be saying me middle name laddie” O’Bama away from the seat of givernment. It offers opportunity to either expose the donks as the hyper-partisans or cement McCain’s as the “accomadtion and reconciliation President”. Hillary is a powerful force, or was at any rate it removes her from a very balanced organization frees Chuckles Schumer to be the “bright star from New York”, and at worst helps her potential 2012 campaign.
She turns it down it shows Maverick getting his hand slapped reaching across the aisle in the name of “bi-partisanship”.
sven10077 on August 23, 2008 at 5:19 PM
SuperCool on August 23, 2008 at 5:12 PM
I think we have come a long way. I have never been so proud as when The People decided to let their elected representative know exactly have they felt about several things in the past couple of years. The days of patting us on the head and telling us they will decide what’s best for us are over. When Bolton was up for his U.N. appointment you can bet I bombarded four senators, the two in Florida and the two in Virginia. I can’t vote in Virginia but I own a house there so I don’t hesitate to write using that address.
Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 5:19 PM
When Obama gets up on stage and tells all the sweeties to get in line, the anger will be white hot. (Sorry if that’s racist.)
pedestrian on August 23, 2008 at 5:19 PM
I don’t agree with Clinton on any policy issue but the woman is tough. She may have more “balls” than McCain when it comes to dealing with thugocracies around the world.
DerKrieger on August 23, 2008 at 5:20 PM
A stadium packed with tens of thousands of starving, rabid weasels will do nicely, though.
Misha I on August 23, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Allah, they did have the “interview” at Dianne Finestein’s house back in June. Barry begged Hillary to join his ticket, and Hillary declined.
funky chicken on August 23, 2008 at 5:22 PM
To the Hillary mob:
RECREATE ‘68!
La Mano on August 23, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Here’s an interesting thought. Could McCain go one step further next week and introduce to everyone his entire cabinet and not just his Veep?
Enoxo on August 23, 2008 at 5:22 PM
OMG, I need to go take a shower and have a stiff drink! That imagery was uncalled for!
drunyan8315 on August 23, 2008 at 5:23 PM
The O-Team concluded – perhaps rightly – that the whole situation was so sensitive, if not explosive, that they’d rather not touch it with the proverbial ten-foot pole. Hold a meeting or ask for documents – and news leaks out and expectations are raised – and then the question is raised, “Well, so what was the snag?” And then, when the choice goes to someone else, characterizations of whatever meetings, document requests, negotiations, etc., leak out – leading to further complications. Or, on the other hand, if they seriously investigated the possibility, then there would have been negotiations, and subterfuges, and so on, and so on.
Kind of like the crazy relative that you know you’re supposed to care about, but who you’d rather didn’t know your phone number or address.
That said, the fact that they didn’t even work up a decent cover story tends to suggest that relations between the O’s and the C’s are as bad as suspected.
CK MacLeod on August 23, 2008 at 5:24 PM
If that is true, then why all these stories from her close advisors about her mistreatment?
pedestrian on August 23, 2008 at 5:27 PM
I don’t think McCain needs to campaign too hard, all he has to do is add a little oxygen to the Democrats’ self-immolation. They will self-destruct.
DerKrieger on August 23, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Whoa, Biden followed Jack POS Murtha off the Haditha cliff. I just don’t see any way for Hillary to replace Obama as presidential nominee without splitting the party. She is obviously a far better candidate for office in the general election….but it’s too late for that now. I can’t come up with a good enough cover story to keep the worshippers of The One on board.
funky chicken on August 23, 2008 at 5:29 PM
I hope all is ready at Gitmo-Denver.
mred on August 23, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Super Cool:
Bolton would not get that kind of public support either. It is not just about making phone calls. I remember when he went to the UN, people thought he would change the place. Not so.
And Palin is a very interesting lady, but she is also under investigation. It would not be a good idea to just ignore that.
Terrye on August 23, 2008 at 5:31 PM
read the rest of my post–it’s got my best guess in there
They are telling the truth about how they feel about the treatment Hillary and her supporters got from the DNC and from Obama supporters during the primary process. Howard Dean proved himself incompetent beyond even my wildest dreams in allowing his party to nominate the completely unexamined Obama. He and the party apparatus also stood silently by when Hillary supporters were bullied in caucuses and in the press.
funky chicken on August 23, 2008 at 5:33 PM
DerKrieger on August 23, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Agreed, I can’t get the image of a fresh band spanking new President Obama getting his very first intelligence/terrorist report and fainting dead away. They may have misread the seriousness of some of that stuff while in office but at least the Clinton know what they could expect. Obambi is clueless.
Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Obama Bin Biden 2008 !!
redrock on August 23, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Palin won’t appeal to a lot of Hillary supporters as she is a pro-life extremist (no exceptions for health of the mother is what I’ve read). Yeah, they want a woman, but not one on the hardest right edge of that issue.
funky chicken on August 23, 2008 at 5:35 PM
No credit for reforms? I think he did a pretty good job myself.
Spirit of 1776 on August 23, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Begala is saying that Al Gore was a better VP than:
John Adams
Thomas Jefferson
Theodore Roosevelt
Harry Truman
… and several others who, while not legendary, Gore pales in comparison to.
So yes, Begala is a moron.
greggriffith on August 23, 2008 at 5:36 PM
I’m not a Hillary Clinton supporter, but if any presidential candidate took it in the rump, she did. The Democrats can NEVER make the claim again, that EVERY VOTE COUNTS, or that THEY don’t steal elections.
Clearly, Hillary won Florida and Michigan. Obama pulled his name from the Michigan primary ballot. Then after the DNC creating a voting debacle, along comes the thieving DNC Rules Committee, and gives Obama 50% of Michigan and Florida. Hillary and her supporters have every right to be outraged.
byteshredder on August 23, 2008 at 5:36 PM
??
Let’s see… Thomas Jefferson or Al Gore… tuff choice.
jaime on August 23, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Don’t fall for the “Hillary is a victim” front…She was after the POTUS job the day her and Bill left the White House. She used NY state. She used the US Senate. She got burned by her own party.
I have zero sympathy for her.
JetBoy on August 23, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Absolutely. The Stache must be SECSTATE.
As for VP… I think Palin or Kay Bailey Hutchinson should be on McCain’s short list. Having a woman on the ticket could be a good idea — it would certainly pick up women voters, especially Palin, since she is a mother to small children and can serve as an inspiration to squishy soccer moms.
Outlander on August 23, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Obama is going to lose;
If his failings were not enough to bring him down…the Clinton machine will do him in;
Expect more sniping from Clinton operatives.
I wonder where the story that she was not even vetted came from? Clinton operatives.
Last night I heard Beckel say that Hilary would have been a smarter choice for VP. Not a rousing sign of approval.
This Morning I heard Lanny Davis say the same thing to Cavuto. Not a rousing sign of approval.
Hilary’s people now have a green light to sabotage Obama and lay the groundwork for 2012.
More power to them!
elduende on August 23, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Spirit of 1776 on August 23, 2008 at 5:35 PM
He did an excellent job on what he was allowed to do but I think that the fact that he was a recess appointment watered down whatever he could have actually gotten accomplished.
Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Hillary is a victim of her own hubris. She ran an awful campaign in January and February, erred by agreeing to strip Florida and Michigan of 100% of their delegates (rather than 50% of their delegates, as was specified in DNC rules and as the Republicans were doing), and by the time she was able to turn it around, Obama had racked up just enough extra delegates to screw her out of the nomination. Why? Because she spent most of 2007 assuming she was going to be coronated, not nominated.
Outlander on August 23, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Before you nominate Palin for VP, she needs to get through the investigation being held by the AK legilature into her possible involvement in the dismissal of Alaska’s public safety commissioner because he would not fire the trooper, Mike Wooten, her former brother-in-law. Wooten went through a messy divorce from Palin’s sister.
LINK
windybon on August 23, 2008 at 5:41 PM
I don’t think that is a big enough deal to derail her.
After all
everyonedoes anyone know who hired Craig Livingstone?sven10077 on August 23, 2008 at 5:46 PM
barry better watch his ass, hillary is pissed!
custer on August 23, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Outlander on August 23, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Aaah no! Come on, squishy soccer moms? Women will vote for a woman just put one on the ticket? Gov. Palin also has a child in the military and I like her very much but right now, the politicians in Alaska are taking a hit for ethics. The case against Gov. Palin seems week but it will drag on as long as she is under consideration.
Cindy Munford on August 23, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Ah yes, and when the VP is out there setting out the administration’s position on another Putin move into a soverign state, or al Qeada attack, or Iranian threat to Israel, it’ll help to have a “squishy soccer mom” forcefully (?) presenting the administration point of view?
Or an elderly Texas high school cheerleader/prom queen? Hutchinson ain’t Maggie Thatcher, and never will be.
The VP is one heartbeat away from being Commander in Chief, and has to look like he/she could take over in a crisis if the president was incapacitated (surgery, etc.).
The most that Palin would ever be (and she’s still not ready for the national stage would Sec of Interior or HHS. Same for Hutchinson.
Wethal on August 23, 2008 at 5:50 PM
lol
>The only way this could be more awesomely awesome is if it involved robots.
priceless
Diogenes of Sinope on August 23, 2008 at 5:52 PM
If ANY likely outcome of this absolutely horrible election season wasn’t going to really mess up the lives of at least two hundred million people, for a long time, it would be quite an entertaining event.
People two hundred and fifty years from now, (once the world recovers from this debacle), will use it as both entertainment and an object lesson on how NOT to run the government of the (once) worlds greatest nation.
LegendHasIt on August 23, 2008 at 5:52 PM
McCain should pick a qualified woman.
It’s a hanging curve ball that needs to be hit out of the park.
mylegsareswollen on August 23, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Please don’t misinterpret my posts. I’m not a Clinton fan. My husband is military, and we’ve been married for enough years that I had a nice, front-row seat while BJC and Gore were “reinventing government” and balancing the budget. But the DNC under Howie Dean treated them poorly during the nomination contest.
JetBoy has good points about how terribly she ran the campaign. She obviously went into the process assuming that she would get the presidential nomination and have Barry as her veep. But Howie let the whole thing get badly out of hand. The dems ended up with a terrible candidate in a year that they should have won the WH easily.
funky chicken on August 23, 2008 at 5:54 PM
thats a joke right? it takes balls to fly a jet aircraft onto a an aircraft carrier, and also to do what he did in that prison camp refusing early release. McCain isn’t a sissy.
Chakra Hammer on August 23, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Republicans don’t do quotas, identity poltics or tokenism.
Wethal on August 23, 2008 at 5:59 PM
“The best vice president in American history.” That is some good stuff.
Jim Treacher on August 23, 2008 at 5:59 PM
pick the best person for the job, don’t base it off age, race, gender, religion, sexual orientation or any other category… the best, brightest and most qualified to take over and step in if something were to happen.
Chakra Hammer on August 23, 2008 at 6:00 PM
exactly.
Chakra Hammer on August 23, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Barring a murder, or death the VP is a placeholder. Palin is at least as qualified for Veep as Barry “don’t be saying me middle name laddie” O’Bama is for the #1 slot. I support her ideas on drilling, and it is not fair to blame her for the Alaskan’s addiction to overtaxing production costs. You work within the sysytem until you have enough votes to break it.
I support Palin because she *is* qualified, and sadly Condi won’t go.
sven10077 on August 23, 2008 at 6:04 PM
From PalinforVP blog (take it with a grain of salt)
Seems like the entire investigation is political.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 6:08 PM
What are Palin’s qualifications (if any) in foreign policy?
As far as Condi Rice goes, well, she’s busy appeasing the North Koreans, the PLO, the Iranians, and until recently, the Russians. It’s like the Carter adminstration all over again.
Wethal on August 23, 2008 at 6:08 PM
Putting a Clinton in one’s nominally Republican cabinet is just stupid. McCain would drive away far more voters from the base than the like-minded liberals he is hoping to attract from the other side (for Republicans, not McCain).
highhopes on August 23, 2008 at 6:09 PM
Spare me the holier than thou Republicans crap.
On that basis lets pick Rudy Giuliani or maybe Tom Ridge.
Yeah, I’m sure you’ll be leading the cheers for those choices.
mylegsareswollen on August 23, 2008 at 6:09 PM
“Um, Palin isn’t ready, and she is doing important work in Alaska right now. I am female and I don’t want the GOP to turn into the identity politics party.”
No, not identity politics, it’s winning. You pick a VP who will help you the most.
You are using the Left’s identity politics against them, jujitsu.
Many Hillary supporters need an incentive to vote for McCain, and Palin provides one.
And, God willing, she will get at least 4 years VP experience before becoming President.
mockmook on August 23, 2008 at 6:10 PM
what are O’bama, McCain’s, or for that matter Biden’s? She has more executive governmental experience than ANY of the other three? I cannot emphasize enough that Senators do not do well as Presidents. The American electorate instinctively seems to know this as well.
sven10077 on August 23, 2008 at 6:11 PM
yep
Mitt, Pawlenty, Rudy, Sanford, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Bobby Jindal are all more qualified than Palin at this point.
funky chicken on August 23, 2008 at 6:12 PM
I wonder if there’s going to be enough room in that “Guantanamo-isc holding cell” for Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton and Co.
I mean… Dude… LET’S GET READY TO RUMMMBLLLLE!!!!
To borrow a quote, “Can’t we all just get along?” The answer is emphatically “NO!”
CynicalOptimist on August 23, 2008 at 6:13 PM
I love Rudy. Even lots of pro-life social cons are comfortable with him.
Tom Ridge? never impressed me much
funky chicken on August 23, 2008 at 6:13 PM
McCain is attached to the notion of reaching across the aisle. If the GOP can’t stomach Juan McAmnesty then we’ll get Barry O. I was a Thompson man myself, but I deal with what is not what should have been.
sven10077 on August 23, 2008 at 6:13 PM
If McCain really wanted to shake things up by tapping a democrat, he should look long and hard at Representative Jim Marshall of Georgia. He was my rep for a while, and I voted for him.
I’ve not heard his name mentioned, so no worries, I’m sure it’s not going to happen. But he’s a strong, independent voice and is excellent on military and national security issues. He’d make a good Sec Def, actually.
The major down side to putting him in the administration? His district is somewhat dominated by Macon, GA, which is kinda like a much smaller Detroit. He’s been in congress a long time, which is why he can hold on to the seat. The person who won the seat to replace him would most likely be terrible.
funky chicken on August 23, 2008 at 6:18 PM
Well, McCain served in the military, on overseas assignments, he’s fought in a war, he was senate liaison in the military, in his senate career, the military and foreign relations have been two areas of interest.
Jimmy Carter had “executive government experience.” Are you old enough to remember the Carter years? Kissing Brehznev? The Iranian hostage crisis?
Wethal on August 23, 2008 at 6:18 PM
That never happens, by the way. It’s always to shore up a weakness, balance the ticket, secure geography. Don’t make it out to be something other than a political move; it is what it is.
You think Reagan woke up and thought, Dang, this Bush guy is exactly like me in vision and he’s the best and brightest. Give it a rest.
If Palin is a good political move, then great. Not sure why someone up thread said Hutch or Jindal was better. But VP is a political move.
Spirit of 1776 on August 23, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Alaska is not an island unto itself. There are these large landmasses called Canada and Russia (heard of them?) that factor into the way that she governs her state. What are Obama’s foreign policy creds? Did he negotiate some gang treaty when he was a community activist?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 23, 2008 at 6:19 PM
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